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dch82 , to lemmyshitpost in Reject reality

Help me bowl of rice Polarize

GluWu , to lemmyshitpost in pov

I’m gonna crumb

bruhduh , to lemmyshitpost in You can see the motion too
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Wuh?

some_guy , to insanepeoplefacebook in Finally one of the sovcits is noticed by CPS.

This is good news.

some_guy , to insanepeoplefacebook in Sovcit has a problem.

I hope they leave this country and never come back.

ArtVandelay ,
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If they leave the country without a passport, something tells me they’re not coming back even if they wanted to

helpImTrappedOnline , to lemmyshitpost in I'm just gonna stick to slotted, thanks
helpImTrappedOnline , to lemmyshitpost in I'm just gonna stick to slotted, thanks

Don’t discount hex, paired with a ball-end wrench, those are great for odd angles or tight spaces a straight wrench can’t get too.

KillingTimeItself ,

they’re pretty good but semi liable to stripping due to lower surface area, as long as you use the right tool, and a quality one, you’ll be fine though.

Also hex is somewhat inter-compatible with torx, which is really cursed.

Aux ,

Torx are easier to strip, especially the smaller sizes. They’re pretty much single use screws.

KillingTimeItself ,

small screws in general are just easy to strip. Small torx is also liable to breaking a driver, like most small screws and drivers.

Torx though, i’ve never had strip out once, even doing construction with them. Phillips on the other hand, they kill screws constantly, and the bits themselves get all chewed up causing all kinds of problems. Torx bits still look fine though.

Torx aren’t exactly tapered, so they much less of a problem with stripping, compared to any tapered design, because tapered designs have issues with backing off.

Aux ,

small screws in general are just easy to strip

Hexes are very sturdy. I ride mountain bikes and for some reason brake rotors are secured with Torx while all other screws are hexes. Torx on rotors are usually tightened to 4-6Nm and they are single use 99% of the time. At the same time there are plenty of hexes of the same size which are tightened to 8-10Nm and there are zero issues.

Torx are fucking useless. And don’t get me started on tiny Torxes in laptops…

KillingTimeItself ,

you’re not using like, soft fasteners or some shit right?

I could see hex performing better on a softer material. That or you’re doing something goofy. I’d be surprised if torx were stripping at that low of a torque rating, unless ur using hex drivers on them or something.

Aux ,

Fasteners are standard from rotor manufacturers. I have no clue what they’re made out of. But in 30 years of cycling I’ve never had a single Torx which would last more than one cycle of screw in screw out.

KillingTimeItself ,

that’s bizarre. Torx are commonly used in construction with impact drivers, and in vehicles as well. Very rarely are they ever problematic, and that’s with quite significant shock loading as well as torque application in the case of construction, i would imagine more than in a bike, but i wouldn’t be able to say off the top of my head, though they might be bigger standard head sizes, so that could be it.

Regardless, begs the question why hex screws aren’t in construction, those should be simpler and easier to produce.

psmgx , to lemmyshitpost in Reject reality

SHARIF DON’T LIKE IT

ROCK THE CAT BOX

Hugh_Jeggs , to memes in Society be Like (when you're chronically ill)

Dafuk society do you live in lol

Catoblepas ,

I know the answer to this! An ableist one!

Many chronic conditions don’t look like living in a full body cast but may be just as debilitating, which results in many people with chronic illnesses being told at various points in their lives that they should be carrying on normally because they don’t look sick.

mecfs OP , (edited )

Yep. Imagine being bedridden with a severe illness and when people who don’t understand meet you (which is most people) they go “get up and live your life” or “get up and do X”

A lot of people (even a few doctors!) brain seems not able to comprehend that someone could be sick and not get better ie. chronic illness.

OutlierBlue , to insanepeoplefacebook in Sovcit doesn't have a Bible so baby doesn't exist.

It’s interesting how many of these posts have people claiming to have seen or heard of people doing it, but no one has actually seen someone who has successfully done it, and how. I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact that it’s bullshit but rumours and legends still get passed around.

Splitdipless , to lemmyshitpost in I'm just gonna stick to slotted, thanks

Y’all need Jesus^H^H^H^H^H^H Robertson screws.___

Serinus , to insanepeoplefacebook in Finally one of the sovcits is noticed by CPS.

As annoying as sovcits are, we can’t conflate them with people just asserting their rights.

It’s reasonable to require consent before performing tests/procedures on your children. (Though I, personally, would trust the nursing staff and doctors more than this.)

The behavior here is a hint of terrible sovcit / antivax shit, but it hasn’t crossed the line yet, and shouldn’t (alone) require CPS yet.

BonesOfTheMoon OP ,

I’m pretty sure sovcit did many other things they aren’t telling us about to attract CPS.

Serinus ,

Agreed. Just saying that what we can see should be allowed.

braxy29 ,

i wouldn’t assume the best of CPS. in my work, i see many families who are dealing with CPS, and it is often an unjust shitshow for families.

the notion that an agency should exist to protect the interests of vulnerable people is obviously a good one. in practice, many workers are undereducated, overworked, often lacking professionalism, and empowered by the state to enact bias against families and family members who may also be vulnerable.

cps, unfortunately, should be viewed in context of our country’s history of criminalizing and victimizing minorities (people of color, people experiencing poverty, women and sexual minorities). they do some good work. they also hurt a lot of people they should not, including children.

BonesOfTheMoon OP ,

I absolutely agree, but something I hope helps these kids of right wing extremists.

Scubus ,

Not saying that I agree or disagree, but why does the parents consent matter?

jagungal ,

Parental consent is usually used as a substitute where a child is too young to give consent for a procedure. In Australia and the UK once a child is able to understand the procedure and associated risks they are considered “Gillick competent” and their consent outweighs the parent’s, but until then the parent is the one who gives consent on the child’s behalf. Parental consent is also used as a substitute when the child is incapacitated by injury or illness such that they are incapable of giving informed consent. Health practitioners and first aiders can also assume consent in life-threatening situations where the patient is incapable of giving consent (e.g. giving CPR to someone in cardiac arrest).

Socsa ,

Fuck that children are not property

Serinus ,

Clearly the state should decide what to do with them.

andrewta ,

So you are saying hospitals should be able to do what ever they want without consent?

Maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say.

It is reasonable to have to get consent before running tests or injecting something.

Side note I do believe if people want to go to public school they should have to get vaccinated, unless a doctor can reasonably state in a particular case it would be a bad idea for one particular person (health reasons).

I think sovcit idiots need their heads checked.

Socsa ,

It should be 100% illegal to deny children basic healthcare like vaccines without medical necessity. I can’t believe I have to type that out, but here we are, I guess.

andrewta , (edited )

And you are missing what I was trying to say. The point of the person you were initially responding to and my point is the consent part. Should people be given the vaccines of course. Should people have the blood test of course. But there’s still something called consent.

Let me give an example of what I’m talking about of how doctors and the medical community have gone off the rails. There is a lady I know of. She said yes she wants her kid to be vaccinated, but she wanted to spread out the vaccines not over years that would be ridiculous. But maybe have the first one done on the current visit or the current visit. And then maybe the next one or two on the next visit. Or possibly in every other visit but she would still get them but just go at a slower pace. The doctors blatantly accused her of being Anti-vaccine where in that statement is she anti-vaccine? Why did she want to spread out over a slightly longer period of time I’m not talking years just a slightly longer period of time? I don’t know, but you know what I guess. It’s not really relevant. the kid would still get them. it just might take a few more months or something to get them. Is that really that big of a deal? Yet the doctors blatantly called her anti-VAX.

People should always have the right to have a say in their medical treatment.

And that’s the point that person you were responding to and also my point is called consent. For some reason too many people look at doctors and say that well they know everything. They’re the doctors so therefore we should just blindly listen to what they’re saying.

Again, I’m not anti-VAX I do believe everybody should be vaccinated and I honestly believe that to get into a public school you should be vaccinated., Unless there’s a serious medical reason to not get the vaccine.

Same way with blood tests, they should be done. But they should be done with consent. We should not live in a society where you have no say whatsoever.

Socsa ,

What you have described is form of anti vax conspiracy. The “vaccine schedule” nonsense is one of the ways they pull people like you into the fold. You are literally demonstrating how this process works and why it is so dangerous.

I will say it again. Children are not property. Using them as a way to manifest insane medical conspiracies is not a protected right. Every child should be vaccinated.

jagungal ,

But since vaccination is considered a medical procedure, you cannot give a vaccine without informed consent. In this case it’s the parent’s consent because the child is incapable of giving informed consent. There is plenty of case law stating that medical practitioners cannot perform medical procedures if the patient has withdrawn consent despite the best of intentions and practices. It’s ultimately not up to the healthcare provider except in very specific cases, and vaccination is not one of those.

medgremlin ,

The problem with the “delayed” vaccination schedule is that then you get un- or under-immunized babies in daycare because the maternity/paternity leave runs out and the kid has to go to daycare. The way the vaccination schedules are currently implemented are done so to provide the best protection for the child on a timeline that would match up with the physiologic development of their immune system, the loss of immunoglobulin transfer from breast milk, and the exposure to more pathogens in environments outside the home.

braxy29 , (edited )

let me preface my statement by clarifying i am definitely NOT anti-vax. and like the poster you are addressing, i agree that the needs of people in public education/care settings are important and it is good to require vaccination for participation.

to me, where a parent has concerns about the pace of vaccinations, a medical provider can share information with that person to help them better understand the risks and benefits of the typical schedule (as you have done). they should still have the opportunity to consent.

medical care without consent is a violation of bodily autonomy.

edit - i wonder if i was downvoted for a) i endorse vaccination as a benefit to the public, b) i think education is valuable in addressing fear or conspiratorial thinking, or c) i believe people have a right to bodily autonomy.

or was it d) i expressed these things instead of dogpiling the sovcit? 🤔

medgremlin ,

The issue is that we do provide education and try to have these conversations, but the information is also available in layman’s terms from reputable organizations like the CDC. It all falls on deaf ears though. There is no evidence that shows any benefit for a delayed vaccination schedule with just a tiny number of exceptions for rare immune disorders. The other part of it is that it can become a burden on the clinic to deal with a bunch of extra appointments and having to fill out all the paperwork for the school/daycare explaining why the under/un-immunized child should be allowed in school anyways…and when you see 20 patients a day in the office and have another couple dozen phone calls, messages, and consults to deal with every day as well, spending the time to convince someone to accept scientific consensus in the place of the facebook posts they read is a tall order.

braxy29 ,

i hear you, you are expected to do an unrealistic amount of work. i believe you, data does not support a delayed schedule for most.

i continue to support the need to obtain patient consent to protect bodily autonomy.

i am not foolish enough to believe i have an easy solution to the difficulties inherent in that conflict given the shortcomings of healthcare systems.

braxy29 ,

children are not property, but consent is also important.

hamid , (edited )

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  • braxy29 ,

    i don’t think the parent denied testing. when asked, they consented.

    edit “when they asked me, i gave them permission.”

    FlyingSquid ,
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    If someone in the maternity ward had come up to me after my daughter was born and asked me if I consented to a blood test, I’d think it was a really weird thing to ask consent for, which is probably why no one asked as far as I remember (maybe it was buried in a bunch of legalese or something). Has a baby ever suffered any sort of grievous harm from a blood test? It’s like asking for consent to wash the kid after it’s born. No one asked us for consent to do that either, which is probably good because neither of us were exactly in the right mind to think about such things what with me seeing something with 50% of my DNA coming out of my wife’s body and her suffering through something with 50% of her DNA coming out of her body.

    Purplehair____69 ,
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    Your daughter is disabled. Who cares? Use a condom next time retard

    braxy29 ,

    this parent did not find it weird to be asked, because that’s what they wanted. they requested that staff seek their consent before providing care.

    HappyFrog , to lemmyshitpost in Never give up

    I don’t argue to make them change their mind, I argue to make them angry >:)

    GladiusB ,
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    So you’re a troll?

    HappyFrog ,

    Haven’t thought about it like that, but I guess you’re right. Though, I can comfort myself in thinking I only “troll” bad people.

    funbreaker , to cat in Fierce Hunter!
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    Peach fuzz boy! I love his funky ears

    FlyingSquid , to insanepeoplefacebook in Sovcit has a problem.
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    Take care of your fucking kids, asshole.

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