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Tb0n3 , to memes in History

So… Average history?

bigboismith ,

Yeah, you can do the same for Russia, China, most European countries. Basically the entirety of Africa.

Eatspancakes84 ,

China/Russia/Europe are largely inhabited by people whose ancestry traces back 1000s of years to the same region. That’s very different from North America, where most natives where killed (either through disease or “policy”).

That’s not to excuse their past behaviour (Europeans started the genocide in North America), but it’s still very different.

kemsat ,

Yup. That’s the biggest difference. My ancestors trace back to Beringia (what is now the Bering Strait) but my national leader is an 80 year old European American.

Tb0n3 ,

Except for the Han Chinese and the uyghurs and the Tibetans and the Mongolians.

Tb0n3 ,

Except for the Han Chinese with the Uyghurs and the Tibetans and the Mongolians.

I suppose you could even add their own people for the Chinese and the Russians when they were starved during the communist times.

tugash ,

How’s the genocide of a whole continent “average history”? The magnitude of destruction in the Americas is not common and this downplay of a continent-wide genocide is annoying.

TheDankHold ,

Because you’re lumping in the unavoidable disease transfer of first contact with intentional conquest and violence. Take away that, which was going to happen whenever any Afro-Eurasian community first interacted with people from the americas, and you get a very comparable situation to many things throughout history.

tugash ,

The genocide didn’t happen solely after the first contact, the massacre of natives lasted centuries. Many nations were wiped out in the XIX century.

And a quote for you

Proponents of the default position emphasize attrition by disease despite other causes equally deadly, if not more so. In doing so they refuse to accept that the colonization of America was genocidal by plan, not simply the tragic fate of populations lacking immunity to disease.

Professor Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz

TheDankHold ,

Did disease not account for the vast majority of death? Even still, I never discounted the brutal conquest that was engaged in. My point is that Europeans aren’t special for brutal conquests. Imperial Japan is a prime example this.

You’re also treating a bunch of competing individuals as a hive mind with a coherent plan. I find that “grand scheming entity” kind of narrative to be just as naive as the people buying into racist narratives. It doesn’t make sense when it’s Jewish people and they’re a smaller demographic than “Western European”.

RupeThereItIs ,

Look, the reality is that disease did kill the majority of natives.

The genocide after that is not made any less horrible by that reality, but it was made POSSIBLE because of it.

If European settlers had to deal with the full original population, things would have been VERY different.

Rolder ,

It wasn’t just disease that killed them. See: the Trail of Tears

TheDankHold ,

I never said it was the only thing so I wouldn’t disagree with you on that.

Omega_Haxors ,

There’s strong evidence the disease was on purpos- Ah who am I fucking kidding, the colonizers flat out admitted it.

GBU_28 ,

Because there are other examples of continent wide genocide.

Humans are the fucking worst and it isn’t unique to one area

ZzyzxRoad ,

because there are other examples

…ok? I guess I don’t get why there needs to be any comparison, since it inevitably ends up sounding like “oh, well this one wasn’t as bad as that one. Happens all the time.”

GBU_28 ,

I’m suggesting that across history IS common.

I’m not celebrating it.

cyclohexane ,

Other examples existing does not change that it is historically unprecedented and far from the norm. And its just a really strange and pointless thing to point.

Person A: “my dad died in a car bomb” Person B: “ehh, average family death” A: “uhh what?” B: "well, there are other examples of people dying in car bombs, dude! "

GBU_28 ,

The root comment was “average history”. I replied to someone suggesting it wasnt, and disagreed with them.

To use your analogy,

“My dad died of old age.

What? That’s insane no one dies of that.

No, it’s pretty normal”

cyclohexane ,

You’re correcting me saying that expelling native populations time and time again from every land they go to, then genociding their entire population to the point of near extinction, using the most horrific methods and over centuries, is more akin to dying of old age than dying by a bomb?

Please read that again and confirm to me that’s what you’re saying, because it sounds absolutely ridiculous. This scale and this horror are not common historical occurrence.

GBU_28 ,

That’s correct, humans have used the cutting edge methods to drive out and destroy native populations in the name of expansion, for thousands of years.

I’m not celebrating it.

cyclohexane ,

I am sorry to restate this again, but the expulsion, genocide on the scale (both in size and horror) is historically unprecedented. You’re going to have to prove this to me if you think it’s a common occurrence instead of continuing to repeat it.

And for the record, no one here is talking about small scale expulsion. I am talking about expulsion AND genocide on the same scale and horror committed here. Show me that it is a common occurrence and I will concede.

Malek061 ,

The Mongols genocided two continents and a sub continent.

PyroNeurosis ,
@PyroNeurosis@lemmy.world avatar

Did they? I was under the impression they came in, did a conquer, and basically left with the conquered understanding that the horde’d be back for their tribute.

cyclohexane ,

So… Average history?

No

8tomat8 , to memes in Accurate.

I’ve just finished my setup with Radarr, Sonarr, Jellyfin, qBittorrent and nzb360. I’ve paid 120€ for proton vpn for 2 years, 200€ for m2 ssd for 4tb and a few bucks for domain to access my setup from anywhere. Also, I have a 1gb internet connection for 65€ pm…

So, I’m willing to pay… I don’t want to spend all this time configuring scripts and integrations(though it was fun 😁)… But paying for Netflix, Prime, HBO, Disney+ and not being able to watch everything I want, simply makes me angry and miserable.

Duck them all. Arrrrr

Littleborat ,

I have outsourced much of the setup you describe to a country with lower law enforcement pressure with regards to torrenting. Costs me 15€.

Worth it for me.

8tomat8 ,

Is it done SaaS or do you have your private setup? Also what about the speed? I stream 20gb files over wi-fi and can experience issues with stream lag time to time

Fiivemacs ,

I’d say stop using wifi, get a better decoder or get better wifi. Ugh, I really dislike wifi.

8tomat8 ,

Well… it is a quote powerful wifi6 device and I get problems only with files 30gb+. My question was mostly about the internet connection affect in this case

Blackmist ,

Saw some service offering like 100k movies for $15 a month.

Only thing stopping me is the thought of giving my credit card details to a criminal…

Madison420 ,

Create a virtual card most banks will let you do it.

EvacuateSoul ,

Those places usually let you pay in crypto also

dzervas ,

do you have a name for the provider?

Littleborat ,

It’s a seed box I should have written that. If you google seedboxes it should be the first hit or so.

You still have to torrent but it’s not on your pc.

michaelrose ,

It also requires you to skip from page to page. You need a page to search to tell you what page to to go search for what you want to watch

gravitas_deficiency , to linux in Linux can be used at your workplaces

Downvoting because of point #4. That’s a catastrophically naive mindset, and a sure recipe to get your shit pwned if you’re running an IT org and you think that’s an accurate statement.

cactusupyourbutt ,

yup. found a virus at work because our on premise confluence wasnt patched in time. fun times

businessfish ,
@businessfish@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

it’s important to mention wherever that incorrect point is brought up:

the only reason people say there are no viruses on linux (which is wrong from the get go) is because there just isn’t enough market share for lots of malware to be written and distributed with a linux target in mind. it is out there and it is a risk, just much rarer than windows malware. if more people start using linux, user-targeted linux malware in the wild will likely become just as common (and effective) as the stuff targeting windows.

never assume your system is safe by default and requires no hardening or awareness from the user/org.

gravitas_deficiency ,

The only truly secure computer is one that’s air-gapped, disassembled, the components put in a faraday cage, which is then lowered into a hole and filled with concrete. And even that’s not necessarily a sure thing, in the context of possible future technology.

Murdoc ,

That sounds a lot like a quote from the Cyberpunk 2020 rpg.

terminhell ,

The only safe computer is one that doesn’t exist.

blkpws OP ,

Linux is very targeted by hackes, Linux is the OS (most used by servers/infrastructures) that keeps most personal data while Windows is just to hack users that miss click or gets hack by Windows vulnerabilities. Hackers do targets to Linux systems as all servers and infrastructures runs Linux. They do target, but it’s just different intention or methods.

businessfish ,
@businessfish@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

while you are correct that linux systems are targeted by bad actors all the time, the distinction that i am making here is that a vast majority of the time malware is targeted towards organizations and their linux servers, which could be both unapplicable and unseen to a home linux user. not much of that hacker effort is going into distributing malware that would find and infect a personal linux user like myself through, for example, a compromised public web page. instead, most of that user-targeted malware is made to infect windows users simply because they outnumber linux users by a large amount.

i guess what i mean to say is that there is plenty of malware for every type of popular system as well as people and organizations to exploit it, but due to the effects of having a small user market share, home linux users can develop this misinformed notion that traditional malware you might get from a web download or malicious email does not exist for linux.

Asymptote ,

My server with 2.4 kernel would like a word with point 4?

gravitas_deficiency ,

The issue is that OP made a sweeping blanket statement of “there is no Linux malware” which is demonstrably false, and a deeply unsafe narrative to push.

Asymptote ,

Exactly my point :-)

ShustOne ,

Very true. Also the degradation due to installed programs hasn’t been a thing for some time. Even if something does happen you can refresh without losing any data very easily these days.

iterable , (edited ) to memes in Another Starfield Post
@iterable@sh.itjust.works avatar

Rule of thumb. Wait until you see top ten mod lists for Bethesda games and is at least on sale.

DmMacniel ,

Well… MxR just dropped an immersive mod list.

qarbone ,

Impossible. There is no time to have created a list of mods. Unless the list is just BetterHUD and a few options for Reshade

AlexWIWA ,

I hear the word immersive in his voice now

b3nsn0w ,
@b3nsn0w@pricefield.org avatar

i have gamepass unrelated to this game, i’m probably going to try it out if the dlss mod can be installed on the gamepass version (which looks like it can be). if the game sucks, i’m happy, nothing kills excitement better than actually experiencing the thing and getting disappointed, so i can finally evict this game from my head. and if the game doesn’t suck, i’m also happy because all these years later i finally get to play star citizen, i just apparently had to wait for bethesda to make it.

DragonNest_Aidit ,

I’m waiting for the Moddinglinked (Viva New Vegas and Midnight Ride) guide before I starts torrenting it

affiliate , to programmerhumor in ChatGPT prompt: Write a Stack Overflow question about a specific problem in the style of a Steve Jobs keynote. Include "one more thing".

very impressive to get that many upvotes on stack overflow with only 4 views

gamermanh , to memes in The time has come.
@gamermanh@lemmy.world avatar

Have ducks, can confirm food will make you their favorite

Though for the love of god don’t feed them bread, it’s awful for them

TeckFire , to memes in 2023-08-09.jpg

Upvoted because I appreciate the exposure for this dating method, but I personally use it for everything. Much clearer for a lot of reasons IMO. Biggest to smallest pretty much always makes the most sense.

Zink ,

I do too, even in notes at work or handwritten stuff at home. I don’t always need to be reminded of the year first, but sometimes it becomes important on older stuff.

Plus when you’re in the US and work with people from Europe, the unambiguous ordering of month and day is a nice safeguard against silly misunderstandings.

luciferofastora ,

…and if I don’t need the year, my eyes simply skip to the dash and continue to read from there.

CosmoNova , to memes in Something something The Juniper Tree

german version

You mean original.

KaleDaddy ,

Not really. Usually its just the Grimm version. There’s no such thing as an “original” version to a folk tale. Or i suppose once there was but it was gone the second it was retold. That’s the nature of oral tradition. There were countless retellings of the various fairy tales with different endings than the ones The Grimm Brothers went with in their books.

rockyrikoko ,

Well the stories wouldn’t be as grim if they hadn’t

Duke_Nukem_1990 , to memes in See?? I'm supporting togetherness

Hahhahaha PETA bad amiright?? Updoots to the left!!

HikingVet ,

They are really.

Klear ,

I’m getting the feeling all that shit people say about them is a smear campaign.

HikingVet , (edited )

Have fun with the smear campaign…

Peta Kills Animals Search Results

Klear ,

WTF is that?

HikingVet ,

Sorry, forgot to do the link thingy. My back hurts and I have used muscle relaxers.

PinkyMink ,

Surely the first result you see has no link to the meat lobby whatsoever right? Right??

HikingVet ,

Or you could keep scrolling down and see many other articles.

Custoslibera ,

Just research Ingrid Newkirk.

Ingrid is not a reasonable human being.

UmbrellAssassin ,

So you might as well say you fell for PETAs bullshit excuses.

Smirk ,

Copied from an old reddit post.

This is why people hate PETA.

Yes, PETA does some crazy shit, but as with many things there are two sides to the story which is difficult to see when you get bombarded by anti-PETA stuff as is common on e.g. Reddit.

Anti-PETA efforts by the meat industry:

Sites like www.petakillsanimals.com are run by the Center for Organizational Research and Education, which is a lobbying platform for the fast food, meat, alcohol and tobacco industries. They also target the humane society, even John Oliver did a piece on them and their founder Richard Berman. That’s just one outlet for their misinformation-campains, they are also cited in lots of blogs and “news articles” as well, so it’s not always very obvious.

They are the driving power behind all the misinformation and PETA-hate that is spread around. PETA is actually doing a lot for animal rights, that’s why they are such a big target for smear campaigns:

PETA and their kill-shelters:

PETA kills animals because unfortunately there are no better places for them. Blame the puppy mills and irresponsible short term owners that give up their pets a few days or weeks after getting them because they had no idea what they got themselves into. Those people create more pets than there are places for them, so instead of having them become strays and further add to the problem, PETA put down those they can’t adopt out. Because PETA accepts all animals, even those that other shelters turn away in order to not sully their adoption numbers, PETA shelters end up with many more “hopeless” animals. See more here.

The case of the mistaken dog (and how PETA doesn’t steal and murder pets):

A farmer asked PETA to euthanise a pack of stray dogs that were aggressive and violent towards the farmer’s cows. Upon arrival, PETA found the pack of stray dogs, took them to the shelter and put them down, as a free service. Unfortunately it turned out, that one of the presumed stray dogs was a pet-chihuaha called Maya, that was not sitting on the porch, as often claimed, but running freely with the stray pack, without leash or collar or supervision. PETA fucked up, because they didn’t wait the 5 day grace period to give the owners time to look for and collect their pet. That’s why they had to pay a fine and apologized for it. www.whypetaeuthanizes.com/maya.html

The monkey selfie:

The monkey took the picture himself btw, the photographer just left the camera lying around. I am not saying the monkey should be copyright holder and it’s an open-shut case, but it does raise the question about the photographer having ownership over something that was voluntarily and independently created by an animal. What if a painter would leave his brushes lying around and an animal would create a painting? The artist actually sees it the same way and settled for a compromise with PETA followed by a joint statement. This was a landmark case in copyright law.

PETA equating milk to racism:

White supremacists actually use milk to demonstrate their superiority over “inferior” (their words, obviously) lactose intolerant ethnicities. That’s the reason behind their campaign on the issue.

Final thoughts (I promise):

PETA does a good job at raising issues and are one of the most successfull organisations to fight for animal rights. The granting of rights is the only real way to protect animals from unneccessary cruelty. Animal welfare will always be arbitrary, both in what species are worthy of protection, and the extent of protection they are worthy of. You cannot consider yourself an animal lover without recognizing the importance of that.

Sometimes PETA (intentionally?) overshoot, that happens when you try to move the border of current perceptions (i.e. animals are objects to be used for food, clothes, entertainment). I am not here to defend their tone or (lack of) tact, and there are a number of (sometimes downright stupid) PETA-campaigns I disagree with. I’m not trying to convice you to become their friend, but at least judge them for what they are doing, not for what they are said to do.

Most of the criticism of PETA you read on Reddit comes straight from the mouths of the Center for Organizational Research and Education (CORE), formerly known as the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF). It’s basically a corporate propaganda organization with donors like Tyson Foods, Wendy’s, and Coca-Cola. They also run campaigns claiming obesity isn’t that major of a problem and that you can eat 10 times as much mercury from fish as experts recommend. The vast majority of the animals PETA euthanizes are suffering and are brought to PETA’s shelter by their owners specifically to be put out of their misery, but the CCF distorts that into “PETA is stealing people’s pets off the streets” and Reddit gobbles it up.

The media also knows that PETA is an easy target. Years ago I read an article in one of the British tabloids (the Sun or the Mirror) with a headline something like, “PETA blasts child’s bunny wedding!” But if you actually read the article, what happened is a kid dressed up some bunnies in wedding outfits, the “journalist” reached out to PETA and asked them to comment, and PETA said something like, “we don’t support dressing rabbits in costumes because it may be stressful for them.” And that was the end of the story, but that wouldn’t get clicks so they distorted the headline to make it sound like PETA was protesting or attacking the kid on their own accord.

For the record, I think there are perfectly legitimate criticisms of PETA, like the sexist imagery they use in some of their ad campaigns and their welfarist (as opposed to abolitionist) approach to advocacy. It just gets to me that so many redditors claim to be rational and free-thinking but then read literal corporate propaganda about PETA and swallow it whole without a second thought.

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feedum_sneedson ,

I don’t really like PETA.

Smirk ,

Copied from an old reddit post.

This is why people hate PETA.

Yes, PETA does some crazy shit, but as with many things there are two sides to the story which is difficult to see when you get bombarded by anti-PETA stuff as is common on e.g. Reddit.

Anti-PETA efforts by the meat industry:

Sites like www.petakillsanimals.com are run by the Center for Organizational Research and Education, which is a lobbying platform for the fast food, meat, alcohol and tobacco industries. They also target the humane society, even John Oliver did a piece on them and their founder Richard Berman. That’s just one outlet for their misinformation-campains, they are also cited in lots of blogs and “news articles” as well, so it’s not always very obvious.

They are the driving power behind all the misinformation and PETA-hate that is spread around. PETA is actually doing a lot for animal rights, that’s why they are such a big target for smear campaigns:

PETA and their kill-shelters:

PETA kills animals because unfortunately there are no better places for them. Blame the puppy mills and irresponsible short term owners that give up their pets a few days or weeks after getting them because they had no idea what they got themselves into. Those people create more pets than there are places for them, so instead of having them become strays and further add to the problem, PETA put down those they can’t adopt out. Because PETA accepts all animals, even those that other shelters turn away in order to not sully their adoption numbers, PETA shelters end up with many more “hopeless” animals. See more here.

The case of the mistaken dog (and how PETA doesn’t steal and murder pets):

A farmer asked PETA to euthanise a pack of stray dogs that were aggressive and violent towards the farmer’s cows. Upon arrival, PETA found the pack of stray dogs, took them to the shelter and put them down, as a free service. Unfortunately it turned out, that one of the presumed stray dogs was a pet-chihuaha called Maya, that was not sitting on the porch, as often claimed, but running freely with the stray pack, without leash or collar or supervision. PETA fucked up, because they didn’t wait the 5 day grace period to give the owners time to look for and collect their pet. That’s why they had to pay a fine and apologized for it. www.whypetaeuthanizes.com/maya.html

The monkey selfie:

The monkey took the picture himself btw, the photographer just left the camera lying around. I am not saying the monkey should be copyright holder and it’s an open-shut case, but it does raise the question about the photographer having ownership over something that was voluntarily and independently created by an animal. What if a painter would leave his brushes lying around and an animal would create a painting? The artist actually sees it the same way and settled for a compromise with PETA followed by a joint statement. This was a landmark case in copyright law.

PETA equating milk to racism:

White supremacists actually use milk to demonstrate their superiority over “inferior” (their words, obviously) lactose intolerant ethnicities. That’s the reason behind their campaign on the issue.

Final thoughts (I promise):

PETA does a good job at raising issues and are one of the most successfull organisations to fight for animal rights. The granting of rights is the only real way to protect animals from unneccessary cruelty. Animal welfare will always be arbitrary, both in what species are worthy of protection, and the extent of protection they are worthy of. You cannot consider yourself an animal lover without recognizing the importance of that.

Sometimes PETA (intentionally?) overshoot, that happens when you try to move the border of current perceptions (i.e. animals are objects to be used for food, clothes, entertainment). I am not here to defend their tone or (lack of) tact, and there are a number of (sometimes downright stupid) PETA-campaigns I disagree with. I’m not trying to convice you to become their friend, but at least judge them for what they are doing, not for what they are said to do.

Most of the criticism of PETA you read on Reddit comes straight from the mouths of the Center for Organizational Research and Education (CORE), formerly known as the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF). It’s basically a corporate propaganda organization with donors like Tyson Foods, Wendy’s, and Coca-Cola. They also run campaigns claiming obesity isn’t that major of a problem and that you can eat 10 times as much mercury from fish as experts recommend. The vast majority of the animals PETA euthanizes are suffering and are brought to PETA’s shelter by their owners specifically to be put out of their misery, but the CCF distorts that into “PETA is stealing people’s pets off the streets” and Reddit gobbles it up.

The media also knows that PETA is an easy target. Years ago I read an article in one of the British tabloids (the Sun or the Mirror) with a headline something like, “PETA blasts child’s bunny wedding!” But if you actually read the article, what happened is a kid dressed up some bunnies in wedding outfits, the “journalist” reached out to PETA and asked them to comment, and PETA said something like, “we don’t support dressing rabbits in costumes because it may be stressful for them.” And that was the end of the story, but that wouldn’t get clicks so they distorted the headline to make it sound like PETA was protesting or attacking the kid on their own accord.

For the record, I think there are perfectly legitimate criticisms of PETA, like the sexist imagery they use in some of their ad campaigns and their welfarist (as opposed to abolitionist) approach to advocacy. It just gets to me that so many redditors claim to be rational and free-thinking but then read literal corporate propaganda about PETA and swallow it whole without a second thought.

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feedum_sneedson ,

I don’t really like PETA.

Warfarin ,

The milk comment is just funny

Everything has to be white supremacy or racism now in our democracy, gotta manufacture it or it won’t be there

flauschke , to programmerhumor in No more problem

That 1,7 rating is sure to increase now that all the problem is gone

danteog ,

Maybe only the all problem was solved

Semmelstulle ,
@Semmelstulle@feddit.de avatar

It was a pretty good app until it was bought by some Chinese company and since then it all went downhill. That must have been almost 8 years ago iirc

candyman337 ,
@candyman337@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, the two I used to replace it are one, fstop which us my go to, you used to be able to get the pro version for free on fdroid, not sure if you still can. Two, simple gallery, that one I think it has a pro but I can’t remember but if it does, you can get it on fdroid.

I like fstop overall more, but simple gallery has most of the same features with imo a slightly worse ui, but it has webp support which is nice.

Semmelstulle ,
@Semmelstulle@feddit.de avatar

Yeah I remember the Simple App suite. At first it was just Gallery, then the paid bundle in Google Play, and later other apps followed. I think LeafPic has a super interesting UI, but that one is proprietary.

I’d be interested to look into the Android side again. I’m on iOS for 5 years now, I bet there are some very nice things to discover!

Naia , to programmerhumor in how am i still single?

The girls in the class will figure themselves out eventually

akariii ,

i scrolled down waiting for a joke like this, but this completely exceeded my expectations!

UnfortunateShort ,

Do you like Rust? Are you enjoying distro hopping? Boy do I have news for you!

FrankBullitt , to til in TIL lemmy.ml is a pro-authoritarian CCP shill instance
@FrankBullitt@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, it’s a learning moment for the fediverse and Lemmy in particular.

You know what would really trigger those folks? Create a Lemmy.trotsky, get half of lemmy.ml to migrate to .Trotsky and see them foaming. Ahah

astral_avocado OP ,
@astral_avocado@lemmynsfw.com avatar

I guess at this point my main concern is the source code. If it gets to the point that they’re trying to make Lemmy take part in the Great Firewall we should consider a fork!

And the other concern is how it looks. I think this should probably be more widely denounced by the Lemmy community because there’s already liberals out there taking it as proof that all of Lemmy is compromised in some way.

HarkMahlberg ,
@HarkMahlberg@kbin.social avatar

Well... all of Lemmy was compromised with a security vulnerability over the weekend lol. But I take it you mean compromised morally or politically. In that case, yeah forking's one way to solve the "optics" issue, with the caveat that you lose name recognition in the process.

histy ,

I have bad news for you, lemmy is an opensource project and anyone with the will and knowledge can contribute, the fact that an authoritarian government contributes to the project doesn’t change anything. Kernel Linux is widely used by the Chinese government (and many other governments) and they actively contribute to the project. Changes are not made at will, they are submitted and have to be accepted by the project leader usually after being analyzed, both for bugs and intentional attempts to create vulnerabilities. While one might question the content being posted to the instance, or the quality of the moderation, questioning the project as a whole because any specific entity contributes is hysteria.

astral_avocado OP , (edited )
@astral_avocado@lemmynsfw.com avatar

The difference between Linux and Lemmy is that Linux is majority controlled by people who don’t don’t deny genocide and excuse away an authoritarian government

sauerkraus ,

The source code can be forked. That particular issue is nothing to be concerned about.

Skepticpunk ,

the Chinese government is an active Linux contributor

Huh, that’s interesting. They contribute anything notable?

histy ,

I don’t know what you mean by notable, but if we take Huawei as an example they consistently contribute around 3% of the code (for comparison this is the same amount that IBM or Redhat usually contribute), in the 6.1 kernel Huawai is responsible for 9% of submitted changes. Individually several Chinese developers add up to more than 8%. Source: lwn.net/Articles/915435/

HarkMahlberg ,
@HarkMahlberg@kbin.social avatar

Changes are not made at will, they are submitted and have to be accepted by the project leader usually after being analyzed, both for bugs and intentional attempts to create vulnerabilities.

This is an excellent point - some open source projects like the Linux kernel (or adjacent projects) are populated by industry veterans and open source champions. They are very good at what they do.

Some of the fediverse projects are run by a handful of hobbyists and tinkerers, some are handled by a single project leader, others still by a single developer. Such projects are acutely vulnerable to malicious contributions disguised as assistance. A quite literal Trojan Horse.

aloeha ,

Why would anyone go from .ml to .Trotsky? 🙄

FrankBullitt ,
@FrankBullitt@lemmy.world avatar

espressostalinist.com/…/a-brief-guide-to-the-ideo…

Not sure if you are aware, but the .ml derives from Marxism Leninism.

aloeha ,

I’m an ML myself so yes, I knew. And that’s what I mean, I’ve never heard of an ML becoming a Trotskyist, so I don’t know why someone would leave a .ml instance to join a .Trotsky instance.

drekly ,

You know what would really trigger those folks?

Sounds like he was right

tkc , to asklemmy in What is the largest amount of partners you saw in a cookies consent question ?
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BruceLee ,

And we have a winner woohoo !

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savvywolf , to linux_gaming in Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney was asked by Verge why there is no support for the Steam Deck for Fortnite
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(Copied from a comment I made in another community about this)

There’s an interesting issue here that shows Linux support is a cultural thing, not a business thing.

They’ve presented it as “it doesn’t make sense to financially support Linux due to low player count.” But they don’t need to provide official support, they just need to tick a box and say “yeah, we don’t support this, do it at your own risk.”

From a purely financial point of view, Linux support is almost free. If you release your game, a bunch of developers off of your payroll will just add Linux support. You don’t even need to give them technical support because they use an unsupported platform.

To use business lingo, blocking Linux support is just leaving money on the table.

But I think a lot of companies feel like they have to have full control of everything. That everything they do most be fully supported and approved by them. That they are scared of letting the community take charge of things because it might tarnish your brand or whatever.

They are worried that there’ll be graphical bugs or something and that’ll make Fornight look bad, so it’s better for their brand image to just block everything they don’t have control over.

It’s a worrying pattern I’ve seen in a few places, including Mozilla of all things.

… Or maybe it’s just that Epic are too stubborn to accept help and contributions from anyone else, especially their “enemies”.

I have been wondering why they don’t just take Heroic launcher and add a skin around it to make an “official” launcher. It’s probably just because they are too prideful to support anything open source or Valve. They think that they need to make their own thing, rather than using existing code.

Sorry for the rambling post, but I think this situation is more due to an unhealthy company culture than “lol 2% market share” as they present it.

slimerancher ,
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They probably just don’t want to make it available on steam, or get their client working on linux.

Rustmilian , (edited )
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The thing is, they don’t have to. We have Heroic/Legendary Games Launcher, and Lutris too.

Telodzrum ,

I’ve gotten all my Epic Games Store games working in Lutris and/or Heroic. Fall Guys was the only one I had any real trouble with.

520 ,

They probably don't want to make Heroic the official way to play Fortnite on the Steam Deck either.

0x4F50 ,

Install sunshine/moonlight on a PC and deck pair, and you should be able to play Epic Games from the heroic launcher. I didn’t get much into it at the time, but you can shortcut games in the moonlight client so everything starts when it’s selected. Without setup, you can already stream desktop mode, open Heroic and start there.

I don’t use the deck, but I do stream to a micro Linux box connected to my TV and an Xbox controller.

Atemu ,
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To use business lingo, blocking Linux support is just leaving money on the table.

And not even a little.

The current HW survery says that about 1.9% of Steam users are on Linux. According to 3rd party sources, there’s on the order of 120M to 130M people who used Steam this year. Extrapolating the HW survey, that’s about 2.5M Linux on Linux users.

Fortnite is leaving money from ~2.5M possible customers on the table because of stupid ideology.

cashews_best_nut ,

The CEO of Epic is a world renowned twat.

greenfish ,
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Sweeney doesn’t want his games to be available anywhere but Epic’s proprietary shit. Which is hilarious given his crusades against Apple and Google

nitefox ,

Rules for thee not for me

Goferking0 ,

Nah that’s precisely why he’s on the crusade so epic will be free to do that and he thinks it’ll make him look like the good guy when they do it

Buddahriffic ,

Meanwhile, I’m glad that lawsuit happened but wish it had been anyone else because fuck epic.

cows_are_underrated ,

Linux support is almost free.

It also gives you a lot of value, since Linux users are better at reporting bugs(i saw a post from a developer who called this out) and therefore it’s easier to find and fix them. A bug free game is something everyone benefits from. If Linux users see bugs more often and therefore report them more often you save a lot of money since you don’t have to pay people who test your game.

andrew_bidlaw ,
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Isn’t official support legally binding, or seen as that by a regular consumer, or their board? Like, they just don’t provide anything to other OS unless they can troubleshoot here. And they are donation-based too, meaning they are very alarmed about any liability, or any unpredictable sutuation at all, since both cash and questionable consent are involved.

I don’t thing Deck can take a dent here, but there are a lot of cheap chromebooks and the likes in edu, where their primary targets are. I think they can bank on it. But it’s good they weren’t as smart to do so.

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