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teawrecks , to linux in Windows 11 vs Linux supported HW

Everyone acts like nvidia support on linux is completely broken. I game with nvidia on mine regularly and have never had a driver bug.

StantonVitales ,

Raytracing is mostly fucked though, otherwise I’d be gaming exclusively on Linux as well. Aside from that though I’ve never had any issues with Nvidia on Linux.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime ,

What do you mean it’s fucked? I’ve read this before but honestly Cyberpunk 2077 runs way better for me on Linux and I think it looks great. Never checked settings in detail since it seemed to do a good job of automatically selecting graphics settings. I have an Nvidia card on pop_OS and it works better than I ever thought gaming on Linux could!

teawrecks ,

Is that using Dynamic Res Scaling? I was also impressed with the ray tracing performance of cp2077 on linux until I realized that was doing a lot of the heavy lifting.

The reality is, it’s going through a translation layer, so it’s simply not possible for linux to run better than windows on the same hw, unless there is something hampering the windows config. But it does run better than I thought it could.

zurohki ,

It’s not that it’s broken, it’s that the open source driver stack and AMD cards are a superior experience. The Nvidia Linux driver is just like the Windows driver.

independantiste ,
@independantiste@sh.itjust.works avatar

I think it’s more that they are broken (esp. on Wayland) and that they are closed source and that they are not pre-installed in Mesa and that they lack basic features such as GAMMA_LUT for night light on Wayland…

Dashmaybe ,

To clarify on why it’s especially terrifying, for the nVidia drivers to be closed source, they’ve been allowed to add binaries into the Linux kernel. Nobody but nVidia knows what those binaries actually contain.

NekkoDroid ,
@NekkoDroid@programming.dev avatar

The entire linux-firmware package is just a conjuntion of binary blobs from different vendos (one of with is AMD). This is nothing special.

Dashmaybe ,

Sure, and I don’t like any of it.

Bulletdust ,

Meanwhile, Wayland itself is still in a state of perpetual beta and lacks basic functionality regarding a vast number of features.

kaba0 ,

It comes by default on plenty of distros and people don’t even notice the change.

In the meanwhile, nvidia doesn’t support the linux kernel itself (though it is changing slowly) that’s why it can’t support wayland.

Bulletdust ,

Except people do notice the change, as a workaround many still rely on certain aspects of X via Xwayland in an attempt to keep things running. Even Steam doesn’t support Wayland.

Fact is, Wayland’s been in development for a good decade or more, it’s still in a state of perpetual beta, and that’s a situation that isn’t likely to change any time soon.

kaba0 ,

You do realize that the whole of meaningful architecture we have builds on, and often gives way for legacy ones? XWayland is made by Wayland, because obviously not every software will port overnight or ever. That’s a positive thing.

It’s almost like the linux community is not controlled by a dictator like Apple, where they can just say “we are using this API from next version, if you wanna work, port”. Wayland required a critical mass before it actually started flying - but it definitely flies now.

Bulletdust , (edited )

Xwayland makes use of legacy features of X. If we were to compleately drop all aspects of X tomorrow, the Linux desktop would essentially compleately break and become unusable.

The fact is, at this point in time after 10 years or more of development, Wayland is still very much in a state of perpetual beta. At this point in time, and for the foreseeable future, Wayland involves compromises that make it unsuitable for many users.

Hopefully things improve in time, the problem is development is progressing at snails pace.

Bulletdust ,

NVIDIA user here, my experience is largely faultless and performance is great.

halo5 ,

My wife and I play Grim Dawn and other ARPGs on a regular basis. I run Ubuntu 23.04 (Snap-less, of course); she runs Windows 10. I ALWAYS host, and that should tell you something…

angrymouse ,

A grim dawn player, how is the game? Their updates actually add things these days? I have the game but not played it too much but I was surprised they still update it

tomkatt ,

My wife and I have somewhere around 450 hours in it (each). It’s fantastic.

MooseBoys ,

I game … regularly and have never had a driver bug

Presses X to doubt…

teawrecks ,

Way to prove my point.

eldain , to memes in Unpopular Opinion

Here is a list of the volunteers of Linux 6.1: lwn.net/Articles/915435/

Huawai is the biggest contributor, followed by intel, google, amd… Most volunteers are all on a payroll. Companies working together on an industry standard is still noble, though.

doctorcrimson ,

Everytime I go to post a minor correction comment, somebody else like you made a much better version of the same comment. This place is way better than Reddit.

eldain ,

Thanks, this place is full of dreamers and sometimes it feels violent to bring realism and nuance into their wonderous worldview. I’m happy my comment got upvotes, the first readers can downvote you to drown at the bottom of a comment thread. Good to have multiple voices like ours here.

Evilsandwichman , to memes in Unpopular Opinion

Windows just keeps on winning

As for Linux, the word ‘operating’ in operating system is doing some REALLY heavy lifting here

yetAnotherUser , to memes in For Free!

What’s that wannabe USA flag?

jarfil ,
yetAnotherUser ,

Thanks. I recognised the black and white US flag, but I didn’t know the flag had been repurposed for such disgusting racist intents.

cobra89 ,

It’s the “thin blue line” flag, cop apologists essentially.

isVeryLoud ,

Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses

Maoo , to memes in Unpopular Opinion
@Maoo@hexbear.net avatar

Closed licenses are arguably better for certain left projects, particularly self-contained ones. You can use bourgeois legal nonsense to stop corpos from using your work.

I’ve seen anti-war people write open source code that ended up getting used to help fly war drones.

Faresh ,

Closed licenses are arguably better for certain left projects

What about licenses that restrict the software from being used in a certain way? I think I’ve heard of at least one open-source license that disallows the software from being used in the military industry.

themoonisacheese ,
@themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works avatar

I mean yeah that’s cool but are you really going to sue Lockheed-Martin? Like realistically if they wanted to they could take your code, say its theirs and what are you gonna do about it?

Maoo ,
@Maoo@hexbear.net avatar

I like the idea a lot but my understanding is that they’re unenforceable. I’d go with one of those if I thought they worked, though.

uralsolo ,

AFAIK it’s just something that hasn’t been tested, but that goes for basically all digital “shrinkwrap contracts” from your iTunes EULA to the license on your github repo. Good luck being the first person to test it if you’re not a major corporation, though.

Maoo ,
@Maoo@hexbear.net avatar

Could be! I think even having a source available closed license is probably difficult to enforce for the same reason: corporate law is mostly about who has a pile of cash to burn and that’s not me lol

spauldo ,

A license that has restrictions like that doesn’t meet the criteria to call itself “open source.”

dubba ,

Free/libre software is not the same as open source, but I agree that it is difficult to enforce prohibitions with source available.

spauldo ,

No, I mean that item number 6 of the Open Source Definition specifically states you cannot restrict the use of the software for any particular field or endeavor. That includes use in military applications.

If you have restrictions like that in your license, it’s not open source.

uralsolo ,

If the designation of “open source” is such that any open source project can be used by massive corporations or militaries or anything else like that, then the designation “open source” isn’t worth protecting and we need a new one that allows for free use by enthusiasts and other free projects but that is blocked or paywalled from profit-seeking ones.

spauldo ,

You’re free to use whatever license you want for software you write.

The term “open source” has an actual definition, just like the term “free software” does. Both definitions say you can’t restrict who can use the software or what they can use it for.

raven ,

Broke: “corporations are people”

Woke: “Militaries are people”

Oszilloraptor , to internetfuneral in not even you

I don’t need to be immune to propaganda. I live in [country], the best country of the world. We don’t need no propaganda, that’s just something that [other side of globe] countries do, as well as [neighbour country] of course.

ceuk , (edited ) to memes in Unpopular Opinion

Sorry but this is such a bad take.

Linux is free to install, free to use and most importantly free to learn

What is the alternative? How many people who are now in great jobs would have been unable to teach themselves the skills they need if IIS or another proprietary technology had won the server market instead.

Something had to fill the space, would you rather it was a technology that created barriers for people with the fewest advantages in life?

(Also as others have said, a lot of OSS development is funded by companies. Linux in particular being a great example)

tdawg , to internetfuneral in not even you

Lack of immunity does not mean you cannot become resistant to it. Like with all things education will free you. It’s just a matter of finding enough of it and from the right sources

Lightor ,

This implies I have to put effort in. I’ll just write this comment off as propaganda and pat myself on the back for a job well done combating BS for the weak minded sheep. - Most of society

tdawg ,

In my experience most people are more than happy to have a conversation about things. It’s more about it being on their terms so they can find the information approachable

Lightor ,

I agree. And on a more serious note, I think it all stems from the fact that people don’t like being confronted about their identity. And oftentimes people will hold onto beliefs so hard that they become part of their identity. Look at many flat-eathers, it’s not a belief they have, it’s who they are, they are a flat-eather, and when you try to attack or question someone’s identity they react very defensively. So showing a flat-eather that there is evidence disproving their belief, then they either must reject it or question their identity. And rejecting it is always much easier. Which can make those convos extremely hard.

theneverfox ,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

I think it’s even more important that you come at the topic in a collaborative way.

Everyone has been force-fed the idea that “the other side is totally evil and wants you dead” for years now - people are on a hair trigger ready to be attacked at any moment

Once they’ve decided you’re on the other side they’re not looking for common ground or to understand your position, they’re just trying to win a fight. They’re hearing whatever supports their viewpoint and ignoring any holes you’ve poked in their worldview

I think keeping it approachable is definitely important too, but I think this first step is where things so often go wrong

treadful , to memes in Geez, Unity took it personal.
@treadful@lemmy.zip avatar

Familiar copypasta. What’s the origin?

Not to be confused with capybara.

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/53/23/6a/53236a603c1c0d5ea112dc30f42959e4.jpg

TooMuchDog ,
atocci ,
@atocci@kbin.social avatar

I will happily confuse anything with a capybara. Need more wasserschwein in my life.

Rooty ,

I want to ride the capybara bus

treadful ,
@treadful@lemmy.zip avatar

Saaaaame

menemen , (edited ) to memes in Unpopular Opinion
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

They are also who mostly finances the development of very many Foss products. So still better than closed source, as small companies and the general public can also use those products.

DoucheBagMcSwag , to programmerhumor in I don't think Unity is playing anymore.

FUCK YOU BALLDIMOARE

shotgun_crab ,

Best fucking ad of all time

mvirts , to memes in Unpopular Opinion

We’ve got them right where we want them, they are nothing without us. Oh wait they have never been anything without us

jfx ,

Hegel

Car , to memes in Unpopular Opinion

Don’t worry, it’s like like anybody uses 10+ year old OS versions which have been EOL’d for over 5 years. Definitely not a concern since Linux is FOSS and you don’t need costly contracts to keep up to date with the most basic of security updates.

www.shodan.io/search?query=linux+2.6.32-696.el6.x…

splonglo , to internetfuneral in not even you

There’s this sentiment that all journalism cannot be trusted. But if so, how does anyone ever get to find out anything at all? Word of mouth? Gut feeling? Distrust of journalism is reasonable, but not good enough. There are specific reasons why misinformation exists and you need to know WHY that is so. Because otherwise you discount information which is true, and the end result is the same as you’d get with blind trust: A false understanding of the world.

alp ,

Everyone has a false understanding of the world to an extent. All you can do is have good intuation about who to trust

JoeCoT , to memes in Unpopular Opinion
@JoeCoT@kbin.social avatar

On the other side, Free and Open Source Software leveled the playing field for software development by quite a lot. Before FOSS you had proprietary databases, proprietary OSes, proprietary web servers, etc, at every level of the chain. Without FOSS Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office would rule the roost. Without FOSS smart phones might've taken years longer, and have far less choices. Without FOSS the web would be drastically different. Without FOSS development would be harder to break into, and anything you tried to produce would involve 15 different licensing fees.

treadful ,
@treadful@lemmy.zip avatar

Everyone can equally profit off it. And hopefully, everyone (that can) will contribute.

dingus OP , (edited )
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

Without FOSS Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office would rule the roost. Without FOSS smart phones might’ve taken years longer, and have far less choices.

Uhhh, Google Workspace isn’t FOSS and the only FOSS Office project that has market share is Libre Office with a whopping…1%.

Chromium may be “open source” but Google is definitely trying to make a walled garden, especially in respect to ads, and Chrome rules the roost. Chrome itself has plenty of proprietary software in it.

How is this any argument for something else? Your examples are weak, MS Office does rule the roost, and Chrome only rules the roost due to it being a Google product, not because of its open source bona fides.

Without FOSS smart phones might’ve taken years longer, and have far less choices.

Android is literally the reason bloatware from phone developers made a resurgence. It made modern phones worse than the shitty proprietary OSes driven by shitty phone manufacturers from the 90’s to 2007. Google allows manufacturers to install applications you can’t uninstall without rooting the device and risking your security.

How did that benefit consumers? To get a decent Android phone, you’re paying a shitload of money, just like you would be for an iPhone (a completely closed source product) and iPhone at least doesn’t have software bloat from your phone carrier/phone manufacturer.

Further, Google is literally attempting to use their web dominance to make it nearly impossible to implement ad blocking with Manifest v3. Their ad profits are more important to them than FOSS. How is denying the ability to block ads a “benefit” to consumers?

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

I agree with your points. But you can just download Android studio, hook your phone up in dev mode, and remove the bloatware packages as well as DT to prevent them from coming back. I did and I’ve not seen any carrier crap since.

dingus OP ,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

That requires some technical knowledge that most people simply don’t have.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Most people dont care about the carrier apps on their phone I would say. There are guides that make it pretty painless. But yeah the Android Studio setup would probably turn off most non-tech people, though I found that easier than locating the packages, which wasn’t hard either.

CeeBee ,

you can’t uninstall without rooting the device and risking your security.

I see you bought into the fear mongering. Rooting your device doesn’t compromise your security. Malware that uses an exploit to gain root access does compromise your security, but that’s independent of a user rooting.

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