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originalucifer , to nostupidquestions in I grew up in the era of Photoshop and people would post fake nudes. Why is it now a big deal that AI is doing it? Kinda like the Taylor Swift thing on twitter.
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

i think its 'barrier to entry'

photoshop took skills that not everyone has/had keeping the volume low.

these new generators require zero skill or technical ability so anyone can do it

Toes ,

Have you tried to get consistent goal orientated results from these ai tools.

To reliably generate a person you need to configure many components, fiddle with the prompts and constantly tweak.

To do this well in my eyes is a fair bit harder than learning how to use the magic wand in Photoshop.

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, inpainting isn’t particularly hard to make use of. There are also tools specifically for the purpose of generating “deepfake” nudes. The barrier for entry is much, much lower.

gimmemahlulz ,
@gimmemahlulz@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You could also just find the promps online and paste them in.

AbouBenAdhem , (edited )

When Photoshop first appeared, image manipulations that would seem obvious and amateurish by today’s standards were considered very convincing—the level of skill needed to fool large numbers of people didn’t increase until people became more familiar with the technology. I suspect the same process will play out with AI images—in a few years people will be much more experienced at spotting them, and making a convincing fake will take as much effort as it now does in Photoshop.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Scale also, you can create nudes of everyone on Earth in a fraction of the time it would take with Photoshop. All for the lowly cost of electricity.

14th_cylon ,

so anyone can do it

so anyone can do it and the victim can be your neighbor next door, not some celebrity, where you can internally normalize it with “well, it is a price of fame”

unfortunately, this list is only going to grow: en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_suicides_attributed_to…

Gigasser ,

Ehhhh, I like to think that eventually society will adapt to this. When everyone has nudes, nobody has nudes.

kent_eh ,

You might think so, but I don’t hold as much hope.

Not with the rise of holier than thou moral crusaders who try to slutshame anyone who shows any amount of skin.

Gigasser ,

I like to be optimistic, eventually such crusaders will have such tools turned against them and that will be that. Even they will begin doubting whether any nudes are real.

Still, I’m not so naive that I think it can’t turn any other way. They might just do that thing they do with abortions, that is the line of reasoning that goes: “the only acceptable abortion is my abortion”, now changed to “the only fake nudes, are my nudes”

Ephera ,

Unfortunately, I doubt it will be everyone. It will primarily be young women, because we hyper-sexualize those…

Etterra , to showerthoughts in There should be a semicolon punctuation for exclamation and question marks.

What we really need is a format option for backwards italics (sartalics) instead of a stupid proprietary font.

sevan , to asklemmy in Are there any workouts that men shouldn't do?

Any fitness physique you see on Instagram (male or female) took a ton of effort to achieve (and possibly some pharmaceutical or surgical assistance). You can pick any routine in the world and you are not at risk of looking like that unless you are really dedicated to it.

simple , to gaming in What EldenSoulsBorne boss gave you an embarrassing amount of trouble?

Deacons of the Deep in dark souls 3. I was running a light dex build at the time (I think using a rapier?) and it was a bit of a nightmare.

The boss is supposed to be piss easy but if you don’t have any sweeping attacks it quickly becomes unmanageable becauss you can’t kill them fast enough and they keep spamming annoying spells.

subignition , to nostupidquestions in What are some things you can do to maintain your teeth when you don't have health insurance and can't afford dental care?
@subignition@fedia.io avatar

There isn't really anything "extra" you can do at home that you aren't already supposed to be doing to maintain those mouth bones.

tacosanonymous ,

They’re not bones.

subignition ,
@subignition@fedia.io avatar

It's a turn of phrase, but I appreciate the pedantry.

xmunk , to nostupidquestions in I grew up in the era of Photoshop and people would post fake nudes. Why is it now a big deal that AI is doing it? Kinda like the Taylor Swift thing on twitter.

Because previously if someone had the skills to get rich off the skill making convincing fake nudes we could arrest and punish them - people with similar skillsets would usually prefer more legitimate work.

Now some ass in his basement can crank them out and it’s a futile game of whack-a-mole to kill them dead.

ArbitraryValue ,

it’s a futile game of whack-a-mole

It’s still going to be futile even with this law in place. Society is going to have to get used to the fact that photo-realistic images aren’t evidence of anything (especially since the technology will keep improving).

calabast ,

It blows my mind when I think about where we might be headed with this tech. We’ve gotten SO used to the ability to communicate instantly with people far away in the technology age, how will we adapt when we have to go back 300 years and can only trust something someone tells us in person. Will we go back to local newspapers? Or can we not even trust that? Will we have public amphitheaters in busy parts of town, where people will around the news? And we can only trust these people, who have a direct chain of acquaintance all the way back to the source of the information? That seems extreme, but I dunno.

I think most likely we won’t implement extreme measures like that, to ensure we’re still getting genuine information. I think most likely we’ll just slip into completely generated false news from every source, no longer have any idea what’s really going on, but be convinced this AI thing was overblown, and have no idea we’re being controlled.

ArbitraryValue ,

I don’t think it will be quite that bad. Society worked before photography was invented and now we have cryptographic ways to make sure you’re really talking to the person you think you’re talking to.

magnetosphere ,
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If it’s a game of whack-your-hog, however, deepfakes aren’t futile at all.

fin , to asklemmy in How to deal with being bald?

You’ll get used to it soon, so distract yourself away from the hairstyle. I feel that way everytime I cut my hair

Philote , to asklemmy in Help remembering a song.
Neon , to linuxmemes in Have you tried NixOS?

Am currently on NixOS

Looking to move to RedoxOS as soon as viable

atrielienz , to nostupidquestions in I grew up in the era of Photoshop and people would post fake nudes. Why is it now a big deal that AI is doing it? Kinda like the Taylor Swift thing on twitter.

How do you prove it’s not you in either case? Photoshop doesn’t make a whole video of you fucking a sheep. But AI can and is actively being used that way. With Photoshop it was a matter of getting ahold of the file and inspecting it. Even the best Photoshop jobs have some key tells. Artifacting, layering, all kinds of shading and lighting, how big the file is, etc.

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

A lifetime full of accomplishments and nobody recalls or gives you a pat on the back…

…but you get deepfaked fucking ONE sheep and no one ever forgets.

SnotFlickerman , to nostupidquestions in I grew up in the era of Photoshop and people would post fake nudes. Why is it now a big deal that AI is doing it? Kinda like the Taylor Swift thing on twitter.
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It was a big deal back then, too, but a lot harder to police, and a lot more obvious that they were fakes.

Gillian Anderson fakes were real fuckin popular during the time the X-Files were on the air.

EDIT: Searching for women from the time talking about the phenomenon in the 90’s is difficult because it mostly turns up… troves of fake nudes of these women. Of course.

Don_Dickle OP ,

Did any women or men fight back from having nudes of them on the new like Swift did?

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I recall women heavily disliking it back then, but I also recall that people in general viewed the internet as just full of weirdos and creeps. Internet wasn’t mainstream, by any stretch of the imagination, so I think it likely “got swept under the rug” because of a general feeling of “who cares what weirdos do online? We’re real people and we never use the internet because we have lives.

Also, fewer lawyers understood the tech at the time, or how to figure out who was producing these images, and how to prosecute them. So I’d wager that part of going after them was held back by tech-unsavvy lawyers who were like “What’s happening where and how? Dowhatnow? Can you FAX it to me?”

wildbus8979 ,

Yes plenty. Natalie Portman fakes were a big deal

www.chinadaily.com.cn/…/content_6002664.htm

Don_Dickle OP ,

Did she ever unleash her wrath like the article says…Maybe the nerd in me but never wanted to see her naked just want to see her in a Princessesque Liae outfit. IYKYK

sharkfucker420 , to asklemmy in How to deal with being bald?
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

Ah damn, thats ass. I have long thick curly hair that goes down to my mid-back and this heat is also causing a scalp condition of mine to flair up. I just can’t shave it though, don’t have the willpower. I will stay itchy thanks

Decronym Bot , (edited ) to selfhosted in Which is better for my network, an extender or another router?

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TheFloydist , to gaming in Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of July 28th

I’ve fallen down the hole that is X4 Foundations. It is consuming my every waking thought. It has a frustrating learning curve and a lot of things to criticize but I do so love building my space empire and learning the subtler points of the game.

hperrin , to asklemmy in How does one realistically sell their large video game collection?

Selling it yourself on a site like eBay may get you more money (if you’re good at it), but it will be time consuming and you’ll have to learn a lot.

Selling it as a whole lot will be faster, but probably will get you a lot less money. Especially if you sell it to a second hand shop, who will be trying to make money.

Selling it through a consignment service will get you better money than through a second hand shop, but may take just as long as selling it on your own. However, you won’t have to do the work yourself, and they’ll probably be able to sell it for a higher gross price, they’ll just take their fair cut for the service.

So really it’s just how much work you want to do, and how quickly you’d like to sell it. If you have an accurate appraisal and inventory, you can see what some consignment services think about it.

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