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xmunk , to asklemmy in What would you like to change about Lemmy culture?

HackerNews has one of the best downvoting rules I’ve ever seen - you can’t downvote someone replying to you. I think that simple change massively changes the way karma works.

cheese_greater , (edited )

They also arbitrarily don’t allow you to reply to lots which is annoying. I often have follow-up questions (legit ones, not comebacks or other crap) that I can’t do anything about :(

But I agree, its generally terrible etiquette to downvote something someone has contributed to you if its goodfaith and also, assuming your thing is visible people are gonna see it and your interests are linked so its just silly, bottom-line

Let their compatriotd be their downvotes

Zak ,
@Zak@lemmy.world avatar

Low-karma accounts are rate-limited. I don’t know what the threshold is, but that goes away after you gain some karma.

cheese_greater ,

I def have some(not quite 1000) but had some pretty popular comments

Zak ,
@Zak@lemmy.world avatar

From what I can tell, all the karma thresholds are dynamic and probably only knowable by admins. If nearly 1000 isn’t enough to avoid rate limiting then they sound pretty aggressive.

From my perspective HN’s approach seems to do pretty well at mitigating bad behavior, but might be a little too hard on newcomers and casual users.

DavidDoesLemmy , to asklemmy in What would you like to change about Lemmy culture?
@DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone avatar

Americans assuming everyone else is from America and knows everything about America.

Minarble ,

The American mind cannot comprehend this.

joelfromaus ,
@joelfromaus@aussie.zone avatar

Americans can’t see this comment chain.

Edit: or should I say “Ameri-can’t see this comment chain

TriPolarBearz ,

But if Americans can’t see this comment chain, how USA-ful is it to the discussion?

meekah ,
@meekah@lemmy.world avatar

Idk I’ve had the impression that this is not as bad here as it was on the place that shall not be named.

Wootz , (edited )

It is. I still wish it “Politics” would default to WorldPolitics" and USPolitics was it’s own thing, instead of the other version where Politics and News is US stuff and the general topics need the “World” prefix.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Lemmy.ml has US Politics as a comm, and World News as a comm.

meekah ,
@meekah@lemmy.world avatar

Fair point.

dessalines ,

You should ask your instance about that, bc right now it’s just mirroring the US-centric reddit trend where the politics community is all just US-specific politics. Same for news, etc.

DannyBoy ,

It’s better than on Reddit, which was usually justified by “it’s an American site”, but it’s definitely still here and annoying on Lemmy.world.

Contravariant ,

Americans assuming ‘America’ means ‘U.S.’

Xavienth ,

If you use it differently you are in conflict with the entire anglosphere. You can make that complaint if you’re not speaking English, but in English, the primary meaning of “America” is the United States.

huginn ,

Also Italian.

… Not that there’s much of an Italosphere but “Americano” vuol dire “Person from the United States”

Skua ,

Non-American here: In English it typically does. The collected landmass of North and South America (or just the continent, if you consider them to be a single one) is usually called "the Americas"

This isn't a hard-and-fast rule of course, and with all the different dialects of English out there I'm sure there are some that work differently. I assume you prefer "US" or "USA" as a short name for the country?

Nemo ,

I, as an American, write “The US” the refer to the country specifically to avoid confusion. But there’s not really another good demonym that’s not an slur. “Estadosunidenses” is too much of a mouthful and “Statesman” has another meaning.

Skua ,

It always feels odd to me that the Spanish demonym specifically is that when Mexico is also "Estados Unidos Mexicanos", or the United Mexican States

veniasilente ,
@veniasilente@lemm.ee avatar

But there’s not really another good demonym that’s not an slur. “Estadosunidenses” is too much of a mouthful and “Statesman” has another meaning.

Usonian?

Nemo ,

How would that be pronounced?

veniasilente ,
@veniasilente@lemm.ee avatar

Like “Usonian”, not like “USonian”, I’d guess? Flat U, non-“yoo”-ed; stress on the O; the “nian” more or less like “nyan” but 'murrically less cute.

SwingingTheLamp ,

TIL that this architectural style came from Frank Lloyd Wright’s use of this neologism, which seems to have originated with Scottish writer James Duff Law in 1865. And, that people have been trying to make this change happen for over 150 years. (Seems to me a review of the tale of King Canute and the tide is in order.)

frauddogg , (edited )
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

I mean, ‘cracker’ isn’t really a slur given your average White Amerikan still tacitly and vociferously supports slavery via support for “tough-on-crime” politicians that funnel subjects-of-empire through the for-profit prison system/carceral slavery complex.

I just call 'em what they are at this point.

“I am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I now think vainly, flattered myself that without very much bloodshed it might be done.” – John Brown

bionicjoey ,

Canadian here. “American” means from the US. People from the rest of the continent don’t care. They’re the ones with the dumb country name that doesn’t have a more obvious demonym. But we’ve all collectively agreed that that’s what it’s called.

If you want to refer to someone from South America you say South American. If you want to refer to someone from North America you say North American.

dessalines , (edited )

Most americans (IE the americas, which include central and south america, and the carribbean), really dislike the usonians usurpation of the term “america” to refer solely to the United States, which really only started in the early 1900s as the US got really forward about its imperialist interests. You’re only hearing “americans mean only US citizens” from the nation that excludes most americans.

lemonmelon ,

Counterpoint: there is no continent named “America.” “North American,” “South American,” and even “Central American,” or “Latin American,” for added specificity, are completely sufficient demonyms for the denizens of the continents (and subreigon) writ large.

dessalines ,

Very true, all the more reason why we shouldn’t allow one country in the americas to lay claim to the term.

The US doesn’t even have most of the most populous cities in the americas

Freefall ,

Hey, I love calling my Canadian friends “my fellow Americans” or saying “hey, we are all Americans here!”

And I think they really like it too! 🤣

SwingingTheLamp ,

I’ll say it again, if you don’t like the demonym of “American,” feel free to refer to us by our state and territorial demonyms instead.

PinkyCoyote OP ,
@PinkyCoyote@sopuli.xyz avatar

Honestly imo lemmites are better at this than any other social media site.

rustyfish ,
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

Well, I also have the feeling that most people here are from the U.S. or Germany. And I only identify the latter as such, because of their usernames. Not sure if I’m right, but I surely feel isolated on Lemmy at times.

abrahambelch ,
@abrahambelch@programming.dev avatar

Here in Europe there are a lot of country-specific instances (e.g. feddit.de or feddit.nl). I can confirm the German one has quite a lot of members and some large German subreddits moved to Lemmy when the blackout happened. Germans are quite privacy focused in general with a generally higher Firefox market share and a lot of shops only accepting cash (not proud of the latter haha)

rustyfish ,
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, die Bargeldsache geht mir auch auf den Sack. Fühle mich nach jedem Auslandsaufenthalt als wäre ich 20 Jahre in die Vergangenheit gereist * g *

abrahambelch ,
@abrahambelch@programming.dev avatar

Fühle mich nach jedem Auslandsaufenthalt so, als wäre ich 20 Jahre in die Zukunft gereist lol

Sidyctism2 ,

feddit.de is dead, long live feddit.org!

veniasilente ,
@veniasilente@lemm.ee avatar

or Germany. And I only identify the latter as such, because of…

…ich_iel?

anon6789 ,
@anon6789@lemmy.world avatar

I make sure to list any weights and measures in both US and metric.

I also try to include a fair amount of content focused on other parts of the world.

Lemmy is small enough that even though I’m guessing it is majority US, that it is likely less US-centric than most social media. It’s just good to have some stuff for everyone, and I know I like to learn about things outside my country, so I want non-US focused content myself on a regular basis.

lemonmelon ,

Regarding weights and measures:

I don’t think in metric, and there’s a strong possibility that I never will. I came of age in an educational system that taught metric units alongside imperial, but also in a day-to-day world that heavily skews towards imperial units.

If I see metric units that I can’t immediately interpret in my head, it’s absolutely trivial for me to get the conversion by other means. It’s equally as trivial for someone who uses metric to make the opposite conversion.

Anyone losing their shit about it is acting performatively.

anon6789 ,
@anon6789@lemmy.world avatar

The triviality is what makes me just do it myself. If I’m the one sharing something to a global audience, it makes more sense for me to do it once than to have everyone else go do it if they need to.

I was talking in another thread today, possibly one in response to this one, or at least one similar, and I basically said I want Lemmy to succeed, and my content is easy to source, but getting regular visitors and commenters is the hard part, so I’m willing to do a little pampering to positively reinforce my “guests,” especially at this stage of the game. It’s just some extra consideration, to show people I’m being thoughtful of them, and to make it feel like a place they can come to get facts without having to google them all the time.

My big issue with Lemmy at the moment is I think we’re testing what level of civility we’re willing to give to and to tolerate from others, and I don’t see as many commenters being helpful to each other and I feel mods are scared to steer conversations back to more polite conduct due to the overbearing rep of Reddit mods. So I’m just trying to be the example of what I want to see. That’s the real thing I’m looking to provide. The unit conversion is just a slice of that you could say.

I still have people downvote over nothing or make smartass comments occasionally, but I can’t prevent it all. I’ll do what I can though to make things pleasant and positive for who I can.

lemonmelon ,

I agree with all you’ve said, and I tend to add both systems when expressing a meaningful measurement. My statement is pointed more towards situations where someone hasn’t done so and it throws some poor soul into a meltdown.

anon6789 ,
@anon6789@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, it is a strange thing to make a fuss over.

The one that gets me is when people complain about paywalled articles. I agree it doesn’t make sense to share one, but this is a tech savvy group here, and I kinda expect 95% of people to know how to deal with that by now. Even mainstream sites have shared how to get around that stuff long ago now.

Zahille7 ,

I don’t put the conversions in my comments, usually because I don’t even post measurements in my comments, but if I did and got a reply asking for it, I’d tell them to go ask Google.

Binette ,

Same but with being fluent in english.

Like nobody is “dumb” for not being an expert at speaking English, let alone just speaking 😭

Cryophilia ,

Reverse for me.

Talking about an American politician.

In a thread about American politics.

In a community about American politics.

On an American instance.

Cue 200 “UGH WHY IS EVERYTHING SO AMERICA CENTRIC WHY AREN’T YOU TALKING ABOUT EEEEUUUUUURRRRROOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPE” butthurt comments.

Aria ,

Why did you name your instance .world?! 😭

Zahille7 ,

Or just the random snarky shit they think is so clever.

“America, are you okay?” for the 500th time is not clever, just like it wasn’t the first couple hundred times it’s been posted.

ThunderWhiskers ,
@ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, it’s contextually appropriate most of the time. I doubt there are many American users posting American politically specific ideas on posts about non-american politics.

The only real validity to this complaint would be an overabundance of posts regarding American politics; to which I would say, down vote those and post your own. I, for one, promise not to be upset.

lars ,

I’ve done my best to include °C conversions of all my °F. What more do you people want.


Since we’re here, I had covid one time and had to shop online for stuff that came in ounces, quarts, pints, and liters, and even without brain fog, I can tell you that comparing prices and sizes against apples, oranges, and furlongs (⅛ miles (≈⅕ km (but this is an argumentum ad absurdum))) is the most unsatisfying garbage that has ever been.

In conclusion, what if God did bless America ?

Mubelotix ,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

Wait we still don’t have a bot for that?

dwindling7373 , to asklemmy in What would you like to change about Lemmy culture?

Having a culture in the first place would be a good start.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Different instances tend to have their own cultures, you might want to go instance hopping.

dwindling7373 ,

With this amount or active users it’s not sustainable. I’m interested in broad topics and I try to chase the most active community for the topic, no matter the instance that hosts them.

The only meaningful sign of “community” I managed to identify is the tanky one, where it’s palpable a radical difference with the very generic “everywhere else”.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Start participating in smaller instances then, if Hexbear can do it, why can’t you?

dwindling7373 ,

Because I am but a single person, comrade.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Find an instance you like, and be the change you seek.

Admetus , to asklemmy in What would you like to change about Lemmy culture?

More witty and funny answers in the comment section. Out of thousands of commenters you could get a few gems that make you ‘spit your coffee at the screen, goddamn you’.

Pudutr0n ,
@Pudutr0n@feddit.cl avatar

Just put a lot of salt in your coffee. Problem solved.

jordanlund , to retrogaming in What are your favorite spooky (but not scary) retro games?
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Splatterhouse:

youtu.be/xss7N6ELobU

Decap Attack:

youtu.be/Tqb1D9_RCpo

Ghosts N Goblins series;

youtu.be/dqMlLueMpew

DavidDoesLemmy , to asklemmy in How do I pronounce "Kamala"?
@DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone avatar

Karma-la… But drop the ‘r’

yrmp , to asklemmy in What is something people you encounter at your job say that makes you want to scream? (Job, person & quote)

Job: Software Dev

Internal stakeholder or C-Suite: presents nebulous idea for workflow/product/feature with no actual end goal

“We have a CRITICAL need for this product. It will REVOLUTIONIZE everything we do here. The stakes could not be higher. THIS MUST BE COMPLETED ASAP”

My boss: Okay. We will move heaven and Earth to get this done for you.

Me: Works 60 hours a week for two months to ensure the new product is successful

Also me: checking usage statistics six months later…last used by me during go live testing

I hate my life.

nicerdicer ,

The more urgency an idea is promoted with, the less need there is in real life for that idea.

TheGrandNagus , to asklemmy in What would you like to change about Lemmy culture?

The fact that it’s mostly like Reddit and people mostly act like redditors.

There’s not really a way around it though.

MagicShel ,

Happy cake day!

(Intended both warmly and ironically)

jerkface ,
@jerkface@lemmy.ca avatar

You could argue it was the whole point.

TheGrandNagus ,

I don’t mean in terms of how the platform operates, I mean the people.

jerkface ,
@jerkface@lemmy.ca avatar

… it’s the same people? It’s literally the same people?

Kayday ,

Don’t know why you are down voted. I didn’t leave reddit because I disliked the platform, I left because I disliked the leadership. Lemmy is an attempt at creating a similar platform.

HobbitFoot ,

And for the parts that don’t function like Reddit, it is worse.

jerkface ,
@jerkface@lemmy.ca avatar

I mean, ignoring the whole federation/syndication/self hostability/freedom/raison d’etre parts, yeah.

Aceticon , (edited ) to science_memes in How did gravity worked on the Death Star?

Judging by their ships, they have gravity generators which are small enough and have a small enough ratio of energy consumption to energy generation to be used in something like the Millenium Falcon.

Which would mean that from an Engineering point of view the option on the left would be perfectly feasible.

On the other hand it does make some sense to structure a combat vehicle as an onion with more mission critical sections inside were they are better protected and less important ones on the outside - you easilly have armour in between levels in that setup whilst in the setup on the left you would need to explicitly add rings of armor sectioning your corridors to achieve the same.

That said, in the Star Wars films we can see that the ship hangars with access to space have a “side” open to space and the “floor” side perpendicular to the radius line of the Death Star, which is consistent with the left side option and inconsistent with the right side one (where the opening to space would be on the top).

Sternhammer ,
@Sternhammer@aussie.zone avatar

Judging by their ships, they have gravity generators which are small enough and have a small enough ratio of energy consumption to energy generation to be used in something like the Millenium Falcon.

Indeed and it’s quite clear that the Falcon has two gravity planes perpendicular to each other: 1. the plane that supports everyone on the main deck (cockpit, crew lounge, etc.) and 2. the gun battery gravity plane at 90 degrees. This is easiest to see in A New Hope during the TIE Fighter battle in the escape from the Death Star. Han and Luke are sitting back-to-back, separated by a short corridor that sits perpendicular to the main deck. I don’t think most people notice this because it’s not obvious.

Cowbee , to asklemmy in What would you like to change about Lemmy culture?
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Might be a hot take, but Lemmy Culture is good, actually. It isn’t homogenous, instances have unique cultures that might fit your needs and interests better.

I wouldn’t change that, federation and defederation does bring drama, but it also brings really cool micro communities.

Freefall ,

I like that it is more inclusive than the DUMBster fire that is reddit.

While it is very left leaning, because the entire world is left leaning, other views so get presented and debated (and downvoted), but they are not filtered out and insta-permabanned. It is way more engaging.

eldavi ,

other views so get presented and debated (and downvoted), but they are not filtered out and insta-permabanned. It is way more engaging.

this is my favorite quality of the lemmyverse; you’re not required to follow the groupthink out of fear of being banned and the plethora of viewpoints guarantees that groupthink isn’t as powerful as it is on reddit or twitter.

ThunderWhiskers ,
@ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world avatar

It’s important that the discourse is visible and thoughtfully debated (as possible).

eldavi ,

you’ll be lucky to get thoughtful debate in this country; our discourse is devolved into looking for a chance to dunk on the other person to enrage them enough to quit. the trick to getting anything out of it is to keep your cool.

JustEnoughDucks ,
@JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl avatar

Outside of a select couple instances where even mentioning an opposing view without disgust and insults results in furious down voting, reporting, and a ban lol.

match , (edited )
@match@pawb.social avatar

the absolute best thing on Lemmy is seeing someone complain about an instance that your instance defederates from

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Lemmy.ml does have both advantages and disadvantages being federated with almost every major server, for sure.

eldavi ,

what are the disadvantages?

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Not a fan of the takes the average visitor from more right-wing instances brings, sometimes it’s nice to deliberately pick a smaller instance with like-minded people.

Social media becomes less addicting and less debatebro-ey.

eldavi ,

i don’t like seeing it either, but cocooning yourself into an echo chamber doesn’t help thing at all.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

I disagree, actually. I never have productive conversations regarding Marxism, for example, with liberals. Opinions being diverse does not necessarily mean they add value to conversations.

Still, I have multiple accounts of the same name, I use when I want to talk to different people.

eldavi ,

i never expect the conversations to be productive, especially with liberals; but i don’t find that the discourse forces me to re-evaluate my views and it usually strengthens them.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Sure, and that’s fine. For me, it usually results in frustration and phone addiction, so it helps me not do it quite as much, even if I have a long way to go.

eldavi ,

frustration should be expected and i think that the only way to get something positive from it is to keep your cool.

XTL , to programmer_humor in *pulls up custom glittery myspace page from 2006*

I put on my robe and wizard hat.

Kojichan ,
@Kojichan@lemmy.world avatar

Not you again!

TheImpressiveX , to asklemmy in What would you like to change about Lemmy culture?
@TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml avatar

Right now, Lemmy seems very tech-focused - which is understandable, as it’s mostly tech geeks that use this platform. I’d like to see a wider variety of interests here, more things outside of technology/Linux/Star Trek/etc.

If we want Lemmy to become more popular, we need to appeal to the mainstream Internet users.

huginn ,

It’s the inverse that is true actually -

As Lemmy becomes more popular it will drift from being so tech focused.

Many popular sites gradually drifted off of tech focus as their user base grew. R*ddit is a prime example of how a very nerdy niche site grew and shifted to be popular (sorta) organically.

I do think that for all the hullabaloo about Ellen Pao and banning a bunch of subreddits - that actually did more to open the place up to users who were otherwise driven away by /r/FatPeopleHate and /r/Jailbait being on the front page all the time.

If Lemmy were to change to attract users it would likely be from increased defederation with instances that are less palatable to mainstream society.

grandma ,

I think an important step to making Lemmy more popular is making sure it actually shows up in search engines. I don’t know enough to say how though

fine_sandy_bottom ,

The objective ought to be more engagement, not more users.

Cryophilia ,

If lemmy goes from 200 posts about Linux a day to a thousand posts about Linux a day, I will leave. Fuck that shit

Blaze ,

Hey, good to see you here.

If we want Lemmy to become more popular, we need to appeal to the mainstream Internet users.

I was thinking about it the other day, I feel like the vast majority of Internet users are now on Facebook/Instagram/Tiktok/Twitter/Discord depending on their age and demographics.

Text-based forums are probably not appealing to most of them

TheImpressiveX ,
@TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml avatar

Text-based forums are probably not appealing to most of them

That’s a good point.

NickwithaC , to asklemmy in How do I pronounce "Kamala"?
@NickwithaC@lemmy.world avatar

Rhymes with Pamela.

What_Religion_R_They , (edited ) to asklemmy in List of resources documenting USA and the west's interference and sabotages in socialist and communist countries?
@What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net avatar

github.com/dessalines/essays/…/us_atrocities.md

The one crime I bring up is the biological warfare that the US wages opportunistically. The most prominently documented was the biological crimes during the war of subjugation of Korea [PDF], where the US dropped bombs with infected insects (plague, cholera, anthrax) on Chinese and Korean civilians and armymen. The report, issued by a multinational team of scientists, strongly supports this claim. The former members of Japanese Unit 731 are thought to be culpable in these warcrimes, although it’s corroborated more completely in a separate report from 1981. The pages 61, conclusion, would be of interest, as well as some photos on 709. This report was released by IADL, which the US subsequently labeled as communist, and tried to sentence a journalist who widely publicized the facts presented with sedition, and dropped charges against him after 5 years.

You can also see another instance of biological warfare in the github link which talks about a manufactured Dengue Fever outbreak in Cuba in 1981.

nayminlwin OP ,

Thanks for the links!

nayminlwin OP ,

Your essays are a great read as a starting point!

What_Religion_R_They ,
@What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net avatar

Thank you, but they are not my essays! They are by @dessalines, one of the creators of lemmy.

ieatpwns , to asklemmy in How do I pronounce "Kamala"?

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