Facebook in my country is where you go to find the best deals on secondhand shit. i got a backpackers tent worth ove £100 from someone on FB marketplace for £15
It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. I do use it because that’s where people are. You can’t really not do Facebook at all. You can’t talk to people on Messenger, you can’t sell stuff on Marketplace, you can’t get invited to events…
I still have mine (need it occasionally for work, I’m tied to the work account) but I deleted the app from my phone several years ago and not having it there has really helped me not check it. I never check it. Every once in a while I’ll log in to do something for work, see that three parents from my kids’ school sent me a friend request, accept those, and then split. I’m not sure why I bother; guess I don’t want them to feel shunned but it’s not like they’ll reach me there.
About 12 years for me without any Meta accounts. I talk with my mom using Signal, and have a very active group chat with friends on Signal too. A dozen of Matrix channels for nerd stuff, Akkoma and Lemmy for social feeds, the orange site and Lobsters for work, LWN and Phoronix for hobbies.
In many places WhatsApp is the defacto standard unfortunately…
If its not that its something like Viber, or badoo or telegram or some other nightmare service…
If you have kids there is also not really getting away from it. Friends of mine have never had Facebook accounts until they had kids because the local football team or boyscout or whatever only uses Facebook to communicate…
I agree you can live your life comfortably without meta services, but sometimes, like in the example above, you dont have any alternatives…
You can’t keep harassing other parents to forward you messages or ask the team to print any messages specifically for you. Not having a Facebook account just gets “its easy to create” responses rather than “completely understandable, here’s our private matrix server to stay in the loop”.
I use kijiji, even with the dwindled userbase compared to marketplace, signal instead of messenger, and I wasn’t going to events anyway, so I’m set without facebook
can you actually prove that (doubt it) or is this just a perceived thing?
Messenger and marketplace? Seriously?? You can’t manage to find a single alternative? Come on now. There are so many good alternatives for local, you just don’t care to look and try.
you can’t get invited to events…
Are you fucking kidding me?? Oh no I can’t get invited to an event unless someone invites me specifically on Facebook and I click the button saying I’m going!!!
You know what happens when I stop visiting Facebook? I don’t learn anything about extended family because they don’t give a shit about me.
You know what happens when you sell not on Marketplace here? You get like 10 clicks a month and you don’t sell.
You know what happens when you message people not on Messenger? You’re the annoying person on the hipster app/sending text messages to a phone number and people don’t talk to you unless talked to first.
Also, good for you if you’re a significant enough friend to be invited personally, but no one invites me anywhere unless I show up in a list of people to invite.
I realize my comment was a bit too generalizing but holy shit dude calm down
I think that depends a lot on country or region. Brazil pretty much abandoned FB, but went all in on Instagram instead. For used stuff, people are likely to post on Olx and maybe send a message on whatever whatsapp groups they’re in. I haven’t seen a single person around here suggesting “post it on FB marketplace” for selling used stuff
Did the exact same thing as you, watched the show first, absolutely love(d) it, and was sceptical about the books, however the books are even better than the show.
I actually preferred the show version up to and especially book 3. But then the books have an actual ending and other great POV characters. I’d say they are equally great overall
Same here, I liked seasons 1-3 better than books 1-3 but books 4-6 better than seasons 4-6. And then there’s the amazing books 7-9 which sadly didn’t get adapted at all.
The show made a fair few changes from the books, mostly for the better. Off the top of my head, Avasarala and Draper are introduced earlier in the show, Drummer got the consolidated stories of several other side characters and Elvi Okoye’s and Ashford’s personalities were significantly changed. IMO, Show Ashford is a much more interesting character than Book Ashford. In addition, the season 6 side plot with the kids is told much later in the books.
The books are spectacular, keep going after the show, and didn’t have to write off any characters because of actor unavailability or sex scandals.
Though be prepared that Drummer isn’t really a player in the books until after the events of the show. They kinda combined a lot of side characters from the book to create her role in the show.
It’s one of the few where the book and show are equally good. Yes to your question, absolutely. The show makes a few changes and combines some book characters but otherwise tells the same story, the books have more inner dialogue of course and continue on a few decades after the show ended.
the interconnections do not end at this point: peepal tree not only helped to establish peekash (run today by [bocas lit fest](https://www.bocaslitfest.com/ of trinidad and tobago), but peepal tree also recently integrated hoperoad publishing, yet another great uk indie dedicated to literature from the global south
I mean, I mentioned that my experience with Pixelfed has not been the best, since it lacks content and discoverability. I wouldn’t sign up again to Instagram (I deleted my accounts years ago), but it’s obvious that it has orders of magnitude more content, and maybe the recommendation algorithm can be useful sometimes.
Personally, even if I don’t want to, I have to use WhatsApp since everyone in my country uses it, even government offices.
Normal people have friends and family and would like to use social media to stay in touch with them. There are network effects that make it practically impossible to switch. This is not something that can be done with the power of love and well informed agent in the marketplace.
One solution would be to nationalize facebook and other social media and turn them into public utility coops that are run democratically by giving the workers that work there a vote for who and how they should be managed. And give the users a vote.
Everything else is just fantasy. Facebook is forever. You’d need many billions in marketing and advertising to get enough people to switch. And then it will be the same shit.
Unless of course Elon Musk buys facebook, then it will be trash in less than a year.
No I don’t use facebook or twitter. But it’s more for personal disgust than for morals. Nothing you or I or ten thousand lemmings do or not do will change the rising domination of social media on our civilization. Same as our individual choices won’t impact climate change. It’s the same illusion that only serves to prevent actual action against a serious threat. Not even thinking or talking about possible solutions. Corporate control of the means of communication is amoral, and accepting it is problematic.
Maybe I’m wrong and network effects can be overcome through a well crafted alternative like mastadon. But capital translates into power for marketing, development, articles and regulation or even legislation.
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