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Swarfega , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

I stopped using Google late last year and it’s pretty eye opening how much freer I feel now. Previously, any searches I made would follow me around. Make a one time search for something I’d see that being advertised later on. As a result I started searching more using private browsing. I’d often forget though and end up being tracked.

Ultimately switching to Firefox and DuckDuckGo I no longer have to do private searches. No more being followed around the internet.

Also I’m not convinced private browsing works. For example I still use it for YouTube but I noticed despite YouTube not knowing who I am, the videos on the home page include some that are very related to my usual videos. I guess they are using IP’s to still deliver relatable videos.

DNU ,

Yt doesn’t know who you are, but it knows damn well who was last logging in from that PC/IP.

aidan ,

Same useragent and window size too.

Zink ,

Private browsing keeps your computer from remembering things about what you did. It cannot keep other people’s computers from remembering everything about interacting with you.

Swarfega ,

Indeed.

ZambiblasianOgre , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

Absolute cunts

Raiderkev , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

Without getting into too much detail, a cached site saved my ass in a court case. Fuck you Google.

lud ,

It sucks because it’s sometimes (but not very often) useful but it’s not like they are under any obligation to support it or are getting any money from doing it.

modus ,

Isn’t caching how anti-paywall sites like 12ft.io work?

lud ,

I dunno, but I suspect that they aren’t using Google’s cache if that’s the case.

My guess is that the site uses its own scrapper that acts like a search engine and because websites want to be seen to search engines they allow them to see everything. This is just my guess, so it might very well be completely wrong.

megaman ,

At least some of these tools change their “user agent” to be whatever google’s crawler is.

When you browse in, say, Firefox, one of the headers that firefox sends to the website is “I am using Firefox” which might affect how the website should display to you or let the admin knkw they need firefox compatibility (or be used to fingerprint you…).

You can just lie on that, though. Some privacy tools will change it to Chrome, since that’s the most common.

Or, you say “i am the google web crawler”, which they let past the paywall so it can be added to google.

sfgifz ,

Or, you say “i am the google web crawler”, which they let past the paywall so it can be added to google.

If I’m not wrong, Google has a set range of IP addresses for their crawlers, so not all sites will let you through just because your UA claims to be Googlebot

Flax_vert ,

Need the tea!!!

drislands ,

Was that not something the Wayback Machine could have solved?

icedterminal ,

Depends. Not every site, or its pages, will be crawled by the Internet Archive. Many pages are available only because someone has submitted it to be archived. Whereas Google search will typically cache after indexed.

Tangent5280 ,

Would you be willing to share more? It’s fine if you don’t want to, I wouldn’t either.

Raiderkev ,

No, it was pretty personal, and also a legal matter, so I gotta take the high road.

verity_kindle ,

Respect for your discretion.

NoRodent , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature
@NoRodent@lemmy.world avatar

Well that really sucks because it was often the only way to actually find the content on the page that the Google results “promised”. For numerous reasons - sometimes the content simply changes, gets deleted or is made inaccessible because of geo-fencing or the site is straight up broken and so on.

Yes, there’s archive.org but believe it or not, not everything is there.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Or locked behind 100 pages of unnecessarily paginated content. Seriously, one of the best features that a webpage has over a physical printed page is the ability to search it for what you were looking for… smh:-(.

ARk ,

We must archive all the things

eating3645 ,

I will archive you!

Appoxo ,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I would love to archive the comment on archive.org but it seems like a bit of a spammy way to do that…

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Donna Noble has left the library. Donna Noble has been saved.

Astronautical , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

Finally, an excuse to use the Wayback Machine for all of my searches!

pastaPersona , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

In a shocking turn of events, google decided once again to make their namesake service worse for everyone.

Legitimately baffling, keeping this feature doesn’t really seem like it would impact anyone except those that use it, while removing it not only impacts those people that already use it, but those who would potentially have reason to in the future.

Cannot think of a single benefit to removing a feature like this.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

It is only baffling if you still think that Google’s aim is to help people. At one point they were trying to gain market share and so that was true. It is not anymore.

_number8_ ,

ostensibly it takes a lot of space to cache that much data, but seeing as they own youtube this should be nothing in comparison

Emerald ,

i would guess they have it cached still anyways.

TwilightVulpine , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

Ironically just yesterday I needed Google Cache because a page I needed to read was down and I couldn’t find the option anymore.

Are we going to need to go back to personal web crawlers to back-up information we need? I hate today’s internet.

lemmyvore ,

github.com/dessant/web-archives

It’s a browser extension that links to a dozen online caching services.

TwilightVulpine ,

Thanks, sounds very handy

DAMunzy ,

Hmm, tried it on Firefox Android but not sure it is working.

lemmyvore ,

It’s called “Web Archives”, you can install it from the Firefox official extensions.

To use it you open the menu while on a page, go to Addons > Web Archives and select a search engine.

swan_pr ,
@swan_pr@lemmy.ca avatar

Ran across the same problem recently. Ended up using Bing, of all things lol

Kolanaki , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

It was meant for helping people access pages when way back, you often couldn’t depend on a page loading,” Google’s Danny Sullivan wrote. “These days, things have greatly improved. So, it was decided to retire it."

They still go down, Danny. And fairly frequently at that. Y’all are fuckin’ stupid.

merc ,

I’d say things are much worse than they used to be. Sure, in the past sites would disappear or completely fail more often. But, because most sites were static, those were the only ways they could fail. These days the cache feature is useful for websites that have javascript bugs preventing them from displaying properly, or where the content-management-system still pretends the link works but where it silently just loads different content.

PrincessLeiasCat , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

Such bullshit.

tux0r , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

These days, things have greatly improved.

Websites will never change their URLs today.

ares35 ,
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

i maintain redirects for old URLs for which the content still exists at another address. i've been doing that since i started working on web sites 20-some years ago. not many take the time to do that, but i do. so there's at least a few web sites out there that if you have a 20 year old bookmark to, chances are it still works.

Blackmist ,

Sites are actually 83% less likely to go offline these days.

Source.

puchaczyk , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

Fuck. I sometimes use the text-only version to access sites with too many moving elements or when the site is geoblocked or doesn’t respect cookies choices and denies access. So far, it has been the most reliable one for me.

NoRodent , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature
@NoRodent@lemmy.world avatar

By they way, I just found out that they removed the button, but typing cache:www.example.com into Google still redirects you to the cached version (if it exists). But who knows for how long. And there’s the question whether they’ll continue to cache new pages.

Appoxo ,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I hope they only kill the announced feature but keep the cache part.
Just today I had to use it because some random rss aggregator website had the search result I wanted but redirected me somewhere completely different…

_number8_ ,

they’ve broken / ignored every modifier besides site: in the last few years, god knows how long that’ll work

Raiderkev ,

Quotes are fucking awful now. You have to change the search terms to verbatim now which takes way fucking longer. Google has enshittified almost everything. I’m just waiting for them to ruin Maps.

Flax_vert ,

Remember when Google Now was intelligently selected data and not an endless scroll of paywalled news articles?

AnAngryAlpaca ,

My guess is that a cached page is just a byproduct when the page is indexed by the crawler. The need a local copy to parse text, links etc. and see the difference to the previous page.

Goodie , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

Time to donate to the internet archibe.

db2 , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

I haven’t seen that available for literally years. I thought they killed it long ago.

Google sucks.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

they hid it under a little 'more' menu awhile back. i kinda saw this coming

db2 ,

Maybe I was one of the test subjects then because it wasn’t there at all, menu or otherwise. 🤷

_haha_oh_wow_ , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

The enshittification will continue until quarterly reports improve.

Just kidding, it will continue regardless.

Gormadt ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

If anything it will keep accelerating the worse quarterly results are as they try to solve their way out of problems they made while still keeping the problems

Chee_Koala ,

Hahahaha, GOTTEM!

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