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kratoz29 , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

That is BS, a site can be down at any time, did we fix downtimes for good? Those down detector sites might just shut down as well then ಠ_ಠ

ConstipatedWatson , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

I tried using it three days ago and had to resort to the Wayback Machine instead. Thanks Google!

Aatube ,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

archive.today

1984 , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Google is spelled Kagi now. :)

MonsiuerPatEBrown ,
Kbobabob ,

No fucking way I’m paying a subscription to search something on the Internet. 5$ for 300 searches, lol.

DolphinMath ,

Beyond that, the money is still going to Google, Yandex, Brave, Bing etc via API payments. If they actually created their own search engine that was any good I’d be more inclined to pay for access.

help.kagi.com/kagi/…/search-sources.html

Edit: They do claim to have their own small indexes (Teclis and TinyGem) that they sell API access to, but I’m doubtful it adds significant value.

pivot_root ,

Paying for the Reddit API would be cheaper. That’s an impressively overpriced search engine.

local_taxi_fix ,

I split the duo plan with a friend and do annual and it’s $6.30/month for unlimited searches.

BananaOnionJuice ,
@BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I have been looking at kagi but their pricing is definitely made to force people to buy the professional $10 package.

100 or even 300 searches/day would be unusable for me, you quickly spend 10 searches refining a query for something special, and when developing you do like 5-10 searches/hour.

A fair pricing model would be

  • $2/month for 1000 searches/day
  • $5/month for 5000 searches/day
  • $10/month for unlimited everything
1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Oh shit, it’s 5 dollars? That’s like… A cup of coffee. You are right, way too much, so much money.

killeronthecorner ,
@killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

Ad based search engines make almost $300 a year off their users

What disingenuous phrasing.

I’d be up for using a product like this, but their popcorn pricing and snark is really off-putting, so I’ll never be using this service.

KingThrillgore , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

At this rate Search will end up in the Google graveyard

TurtleJoe ,
@TurtleJoe@lemmy.world avatar

It’ll be nothing but AI spam.

Flightbird386 ,

Replaced with just ad results.

originalucifer , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

there are half a dozen still very good reasons to keep this feature and one not to: lost ad revenue

assholes

Neato ,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

I can’t imagine there was even that much lost revenue. Cached pages are good for seeing basic content in that page but you can’t click through links or interact with the page in any way. Were so many people using it to avoid ads?

NoRodent ,
@NoRodent@lemmy.world avatar

Were so many people using it to avoid ads?

I doubt that as well. There are much better ways to deal with ads. I always only used it when the content on the page didn’t exist anymore or couldn’t be accessed for whatever reason.

But I suspected this was coming, they’ve been hiding this feature deeper and deeper in the last few years.

Catoblepas ,

I honestly thought it was already gone.

db2 ,

but you can’t click through links or interact with the page in any way

Most of the time that’s exactly what I want. I hate hunting through 473 pages of stupid bullshit in some janky forum to try to find the needle in that haystack.

bjorney ,

I feel like 99% of its usage was to avoid ads/paywalls/geo/account restrictions on news and social media sites

PapaStevesy ,

You can’t lose what you never had. It’s desired ad revenue they’re after.

Monomate , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

Ironically, the link to this as article is offline for me. “Cached” surely would solve my problem.

Toes , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

That’s bs, it’s one of the best features Google has and they’ve been ruining it. Wayback machine wished it could be that comprehensive.

Aatube ,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

Wayback is definitely more comprehensive than Google. I’ve only seen three occasions of links Google has saved that Wayback hasn’t.

_number8_ ,

i fear for the days when some cruel unfeeling interest comes for archive.org too

Commiunism , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

Seeing many comments here shitting on this decision by google, is this really that big of a deal? I’ve personally never used the cached feature of Google and if I ever needed to see a page that is currently down, it’d be via wayback machine. If nobody used the feature, why have it waste a ton worth of storage space? Feel free to prove me wrong though.

matjoeman ,

It was also useful when the page had changed inbetween google indexing it and now, so if you loaded the page and couldn’t find the text you were searching for because it was deleted, you could find it on the cached page.

avidamoeba , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Sounds like someone’s after storage savings.

HarkMahlberg ,
@HarkMahlberg@kbin.social avatar

All those racks of hard drives are taking up the space they need for racks of Nvidia GPU's.

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

They use their own TPUs instead of NVIDIA AFAIK but yeah.

Boiglenoight , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

Never used it/realized its use. Lament for others who did.

zcd , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

Google well on their way on their uber-dick speedrun

Clbull , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

This is the search engine equivalent of aiming a carbine at your feet and shooting yourself with a .50 cal round.

Cached pages were something I found myself using quite a bit and them going may be the push needed for me to use an alternative search engine.

Kid_Thunder , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

It has barely existed for years anyway. Anyone can remove the Google caching from their website and most major websites and many small ones do.

Now I just have an archive.org extension to do the se thing basically.

key ,

Ya I’m just surprised to hear the feature still exists. I remember the option to view cached page disappearing from every search result I would try to use it on years ago.

shininghero , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

No, there are still use cases for it. I usually use it to retrieve web pages from sites that get incorrectly blocked by the firewall at work.

Buelldozer , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

JFC…at this point I may as well stand up a self hosted search engine.

Aatube ,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

Is this really such an essential feature when archive.today exists?

Buelldozer ,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

Not really but I’m disgusted with the continual downgrading of Google Search and it’s hyper-focus on increasing profitability at the cost of user experience and data privacy.

I was already toying with searXNG anyway, so it’s not a big leap.

DocMcStuffin ,
@DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world avatar

A few months back Ruud stood up a copy: searxng.world

I’ve been using it, and it tends to be as good as or better than google’s search. There’s only been a handful of instances where I’ve explicitly used google’s.

Buelldozer , (edited )
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

Thanks, I’ll give it a try. I’ve been using searx.work to play with the tech and I’m almost satisfied enough to stand up my own instance.

Edit; I removed my dumb-assery around default search engines.

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