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GreatRam , to til in TIL that Chironomia is the art of using gesticulations or hand gestures to good effect in traditional rhetoric or oratory.

I have 0 skill in this lol. Idk how it just comes to people to use their hands when saying stuff

TheReturnOfPEB OP ,

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xilliah , to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?

Something from Michael Jackson maybe. I heard you can go somewhere where there is no civilization and they’ll still know him.

ianovic69 , to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?
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Oh this is easy, but you may not thank me for it. Hum, whistle or sing, anyone near you will do the same after a minute or so. It’s timeless and it even has it’s own website

I give you Lipps Inc. - Funky Town

anywho , to til in TIL the term Redneck likely originated from the sunburned red neck of those working in fields.

Some people have great trouble splitting words into their component parts, as if their internal GPT just stores everything as single token like “redneck”, so they never split it semantically or conceptually into red+neck.

el_bhm ,

Germans trembling

anywho ,

I guess Germans do need to be particularly good at this, based on the mega words they can have.

On the other hand, when listening to American Youtubers read something onscreen, it seems like they use some internal rainbow table to look up prefixes of words, and then just autocomplete the word based on probability.

I say this because during reading they often substitute words with some that sound similar, but are not semantically close to what is written.

WolfLink ,

Apparently that’s how some people are taught to read. Just kinda guess the word without actually reading it.

Pilon23 ,

A man who gers! Did i get it right?

JPAKx4 , to til in TIL the term Redneck likely originated from the sunburned red neck of those working in fields.

Why are people gatekeeping today’s 10,000?

someguy3 OP , (edited )

Some people get really snarky about word breakdowns for some reason. See it quite often.

Pilferjinx ,

No! All common knowledge belong to me.

PeterLossGeorgeWall , (edited ) to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?

I don’t know what it is but I hear it at sports stadiums. Duh duh duh duh- duh duh duh-duh It repeats

Edit: I’ve just found out it’s called papas got a brand new pigbag.

mindbleach , (edited )

“Seven Nation Army” by The White Stripes.

linearchaos ,
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I know it’s not the song that you’re saying but I read that in Suzanne Vega - Tom’s diner tone

lolcatnip ,

There’s a surprisingly good cover of it by Britney Spears.

PeterLossGeorgeWall ,

There is a better cover by AnnenMayKantereit, imo.

kholby ,
ShittyBeatlesFCPres , to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?

In the U.S., “Neck” by Cameo has become a college marching band standard. I wonder if that will help. Not that it would come from U.S. college sports but maybe a song like “Sweet Caroline” or “Seven Nation Army” that’s played at professional sporting events in multiple countries.

Carighan , to til in TIL the term Redneck likely originated from the sunburned red neck of those working in fields.
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Eh… yes? Isn’t that kinda obvious from the word itself?!

flan , to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?
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gucci gucci

feedum_sneedson , (edited ) to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?

Creep by Radiohead, imagine how much that would annoy Thom Yorke.

Venator ,

Probably helps to be featured or mentioned in other notable media, as greensleaves is mentioned in Shakespeare, and creep is part of the fight club soundtrack, so it has that going for it I guess 😅

bblkargonaut , to til in TIL the term Redneck likely originated from the sunburned red neck of those working in fields.

Wait until they learn the Spanish word for black, or worse Latin.

dariusj18 ,

Woke mafia coming for your beans!

/s

bitwaba ,

Frijole freedom ain’t free!

CanadaPlus , (edited ) to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?

One thing people might not realise, is that memorable old music can come and go. Until someone recorded a successful rendition in the 60’s, Cannon in D had been forgotten for centuries. Now it’s almost synonymous with wedding music, and seems completely timeless.

It’s possible everyone will be crazy about 1919’s El sombrero de tres picos in 2450, and (with this all being indistinct distant history) will picture us in 2024 playing it on boombox at a 2050’s-style holo-orgy.

Shialac ,

Tell me more about these 2050’s Holo-Orgies

CanadaPlus ,

Busy. I’ll get back to you about it in 30 years or so. /s

Lurker ,

Will they be included with a Canadian residency or will it only be for CanadaPlus?

CanadaPlus , (edited )

Hmm. Well, I haven’t gotten any invites to orgies. The only possible, logical reason is that it’s a plus-premium thing.

On a serious note, if anyone’s an American who’s serious about relocating to Canada and not just memeing, I’d get moving on it now. We have a massive housing shortage, and things would get sticky politically if there was a big wave of people pushing prices up even more.

Tikiporch ,

I think having a dance associated with the song is integral to the staying power of a song. The Twist, Hokey Pokey, Electric Slide, all great contenders.

But time will prove that the champion is The Macarena, by Los Del Rio.

CanadaPlus ,

I guess, but I couldn’t hum the Cakewalk for you.

Tikiporch ,

I can, as well as my gran, so there’s that. Try and keep up.

gnu ,

Nutbush City Limits might have a chance then, we’ll see whether Australian public schools are still teaching the dance in a couple of hundred years…

evanstucker ,

B.P.E. by Girls5Eva I had this song in my head all day yesterday. open.spotify.com/track/7jYbX7gU0Pe2b0nZR7OSH5?si=…Surely it will be known by all in the future… hehe.

WhatsHerBucket , to til in TIL the term Redneck likely originated from the sunburned red neck of those working in fields.
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Remember kids… no matter what TikTok says, sunscreen does NOT cause cancer.

Assman ,
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Sun on the other hand…

AceBonobo , (edited )

trust me on the sunscreen youtu.be/KdQbb3FXSEI

dezmd ,
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Ironically, this was played for the Class of 98 at our Senior Prom and the lyric for the song was Class of 97, the version from the album before they re-released it for that money grab with Class of 99.

The song was just a retelling of the original ‘Wear Sunscreen’ written by Mary Schmich, a columnist for the Chicago Tribune in 1997.

brbposting ,

Medical organizations such as the American Cancer Society recommend the use of sunscreen because it aids in the prevention of squamous cell carcinomas.

Sunscreen good

As of 2021, only zinc oxide and titanium dioxide are generally recognized as safe and effective (GRASE) by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) since there is currently insufficient data to support recognizing petrochemical UV filters as safe.

Okay, mineral sunscreen good

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Shaleesh , to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?
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As much as I want TiK ToK by Kesha to be a recognizable tune in half a millenia I know that’s not happening. Personal Jesus by Depeche Mode is one of the most covered songs of the past 50 years so that very well may become immortalized through diffusion alone. There’s a couple dozen jazz standards that could have that kind of staying power as well, especially considering their ubiquity in performance repitoires and books of sheet music.

LaGG_3 ,
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As much as I want TiK ToK by Kesha to be a recognizable tune in half a millenia I know that’s not happening.

I heard it on the radio recently and they censored the beginning:

Wake up in the morning feeling like [redacted]

Melatonin OP ,

??? Why

LaGG_3 ,
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P Diddy/Sean Combs has a lot of ongoing allegations right now

ouRKaoS ,

I heard a live performance where the line was changed to:

Wake up in the morning saying Fuck P Diddy

PaulSmackage ,
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Bored music teacher in 2200: “and here children, we find the most important contributions to late 20th centure music: a phonograph of Depeche Mode’s Violator.”

mindbleach ,

I can only hope, deep into the future, some dork leans toward his friend and mutters “101 was better.”

lolcatnip ,

Anyone who would say that would say Black Celebration instead.

mindbleach ,

I would’ve said Songs Of Faith And Devotion, but a short name made a better gag, and I could not bring myself to say Ultra.

And seriously, 101 fucking rules. It’s an energetic best-of before they asked themselves what made them special and stripped back everything for the iconoclastic rose album everyone knows them for. Which is okay.

On reflection, far from sober, it is surprising the Deftones have never covered “In Your Room.”

lolcatnip ,

Funny. Seems like you see Violator as the start of a new era for them, and I see it as the end of the classic era. There are isolated songs I like after Violator, but no whole albums. (For reference, SoFaD was their newest album when I started listening, and I got it as the same time as Violator.)

choco_crispies ,

I agree with you. To me, Violator was the last album of the 2nd generation of their sound, the first being a lot more New Wave. Although, I do think the shift from New Wave to the more techno industrial 2nd era was more gradual.

mindbleach ,

Violator is a band asking themselves what they’re about and finding a crystal clear answer. The result is deliberately transitional. In going to the extremes, in excising everything that is not strictly necessary, they built a framework for a sound that is distinctly their own, without being more of what they’d already done.

Songs Of Faith And Devotion is bombastic, but all its power is built on that same crisp restraint. Especially in the 90s - it would have been easy to be louder and busier just by adding a little distortion, a little fuzz, a little taste of metal or grunge. Instead they stuck with clean synths and tasteful reverb, but made them fucking hit. (By contrast, see Playing The Angel. Or don’t.)

Ultra does the opposite trick, applying that sparse soundscape to more-general instrumentation. It kinda works. Exciter does a better job of it, but still stumbles on tracks like “Dead Of Night” and “Comatose.” Good demos! How long until they’re complete? Oh. (“Freelove” nearly makes up for all of it.)

Everything after that… look, I actually like Playing The Angel, but I’m the kind of mutant who sincerely argues that Violator was merely okay. And even I can’t find any love for Delta Machine.

All their work leading up to Violator was much more organic than how they made Violator. Their masterpiece, in the sense of getting their shit together and being taken seriously, was Construction Time Again, with “Everything Counts” as a tentpole. Some Great Reward was Gore going ‘oh we can get real weird with this, huh’ and leaning way the hell into the kink and the darkness, god bless him. Black Celebration was the peak of that arc.

Music For The Masses never rises to quite the same level, but in that album you can see the transition forming. “Behind The Wheel” is probably the crescendo of their old sound. Y’know, synthpop where someone’s credited for playing the trash can. And then immediately there’s “To Have And To Hold,” which is maybe one degree too loose for Violator. It is emblematic of the sound they wanted.

Greg , to til in TIL the term Redneck likely originated from the sunburned red neck of those working in fields.
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That doesn’t make sense, you get sun burn like that if you go from no sun exposure to lots of sun exposure. People working in the fields would not have been constantly sun burned unless they were albino.

where_am_i ,

Most white people are not able to get a proper strong tan. And even when they do it compares to SPF 5, which is not nearly enough to protect you from working in the field for the entire day.

So, yeah, you’ll have a tanned neck, but also it will be red very, very often.

Greg ,
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Farmers also wore hats and covered their necks. My point is that if you saw a red neck 100 years ago it would more likely belong to someone who works indoors, is groomed to expose their neck, and spent the day outside as opposed to a farmer. A farmer would know better, they’re not stupid. This is just one of those explanations that sounds logical until you dig a tiny bit.

myrrh ,

…child of ulster scot farmers, here: yes, we tan a bit, but working outside leaves our necks perpetually red nonetheless, even with long collars and hats…

…it’s called a farmer tan for good reason…

cbarrick ,

Tell me you’ve never worked on a farm without telling me that you’ve never worked on a farm.

The thumbnail photo is extreme, yes. But white farm workers still get sunburns.

Assman ,
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Grew up surrounded by pink farmers, can confirm

Greg ,
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Modern farming isn’t really comparable to folks working the land 100+ years ago. My point is that farmers 100 years ago weren’t stupid, they would have protected themselves when necessary and would have earned an impressive base tan.

folkrav ,

I don’t think it’s a particularly far fetched idea to imagine that people spending their days outside before the invention of sunscreen would develop more sunburns than the general population regardless, even if only once or twice a year on unexpectedly long or sunny days…

Greg ,
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It doesn’t seem far fetched which is what makes this urban myth appealing. But this red neck theory makes loads of assumptions, like these farmers didn’t know how to protect themselves from the sun, these farmers were groomed in a way to reveal their necks, etc. In reality, they would have had solid base tans, worn hats, and probably kept their neck and ears covered with hair.

Greg ,
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I am British by decent and lived on a boat for a year. First few months I was burned a few times but after a short while I was fine. Even when I was in places like the Bahamas. That was the same for all the other white folks, only the tourists were sunburned.

John_McMurray ,

Yep. Irish descent here. Burn once in the spring, it turns into a tan and then I’m fine till next spring. (Obviously I’m not the glow in the dark type)

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