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Hadriscus , to worldnews in King Charles III diagnosed with cancer, Buckingham Palace says

all royalty are bastards

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

Except Souphanouvong of Laos, he was cool. Pu-Yi after getting a real job of gardener also could count.

NikkiDimes ,

…ARAB?

Shepstr , to worldnews in King Charles III diagnosed with cancer, Buckingham Palace says

Jesus, lemmy is full of hate

ToucheGoodSir ,

I have 0 sympathy for monarchial families living off the backs of UK taxpayers for… Centuries :|

Hadriscus ,

Yea, I don’t wish death upon the guy but come on, get a job now

ToucheGoodSir ,

As an American, if I got cancer like this dude has, having a job there is a very high chance I’d be destitute IF I lived. World class medical treatment off the backs of his subjects… yeahno my dude, worlds smallest violen playing.jpeg

He can wipe his cancer tears up with whatever the largest denomination of pounds you guys use is xD

Hadriscus ,

I’m not sure I follow. I know health insurance in the US is often tied to a salaried job, so if you have one, then why would you be destitute ?

Now I’m not British, but I agree with the sentiment

PastyWaterSnake ,

Lost/reduced wages from time off work, and health insurance doesn’t cover everything.

Hadriscus ,

ok I see

ToucheGoodSir ,

If you have seen breaking bad, the premise of that show is an apt description. Insurance companies here will often deny you necessary life saving medical treatment for… reasons

Other example: a woman with a family history of breast cancer was denied a doctor recommended mammogram to check on some potentially cancerous lumps because she has… Already had too many mammograms.

Profit incentive in the healthcare industry is no bueno:|

Hadriscus ,

Yea I guess I didn’t quite grasp how bad it was

aphlamingphoenix ,

Because insurance pays for a portion of your treatment, rarely 100% of it, and the moment you start racking up bigger bills, insurance starts looking for ways to not pay your claims. They’ll put a hold on payment until you call them and broker a deal or they go back and forth with your doctor demanding that you receive some treatment other than what that doctor recommends.

I have Crohn’s Disease, an autoimmune disorder that is often treated with immunosuppressants. First, they did not want to pay for my initial “loading dose” because it has to be done by infusion. That’s a ~$25,000 procedure (3-4 hours on an IV). I talked them into it by telling them that only the first dose would be by infusion and the rest by self injection.

But when my company decided to pay for a less expensive insurance plan that started at the beginning of the year, they suddenly didn’t want to pay for the injections either. Now I owe 30% of the cost of my injections. That’s almost $4,000 a dose that I take every 8 weeks, about $25,000/year.

So now I use a coupon program through a separate company, and they bill the remainder of the balance to the company who produces the medicine who give me a $21,000 annual credit toward paying the remainder. So now to get my medicine I must coordinate between my doctor, a specialty pharmacy, my insurance provider, a company that runs the coupon program, and the company that produces the medicine… Just to get a syringe delivered to me on a schedule. And the credit probably won’t last until the end of the year; I’ll probably end up shelling out a few thousand for my meds around Christmas time this year.

If any of the complicated web of companies that collectively get me these meds doesn’t have everything lined up in their system, I don’t get my meds. My last dose was almost three weeks late to me because of all the calling around I had to do. Because we don’t have a central health care authority, that means each company maintains their own system of record. Each phone call involves working through a phone tree to get to a human agent, working through the same set of identity verification steps with them, explaining the situation over again to a different person every time…

It’s a real pain in the ass, and they do it on purpose to get you to give up. Having insurance doesn’t mean your health care is paid for, and you pay a premium (hundreds of dollars) on every paycheck to keep the insurance that still doesn’t pay for your medical costs. Having health insurance does not mean you don’t still pay through the teeth for your health care. Having health insurance does not mean that health care is accessible to you. Having insurance that makes health care accessible today does not mean they won’t change the rules behind your back, and that you will still have access to health care tomorrow.

Hadriscus ,

what the actual fuck… thanks for sharing your story and I wish you courage. Have you considered moving ? given the severity of your condition ?

medgremlin ,

All things considered, their situation is not as bad as it could be. I had a job where one of my duties was to get prior authorizations for every procedure we did in an oncology-focused plastic surgery clinic. The vast majority of the procedures were breast reconstruction following mastectomy and skin cancer excisions. I had an insurance company demand documentation and evidence of medical need to close the incision site after excising the melanoma. They were gracious enough to allow the excision without requiring a prior authorization, but in order for the surgeon to close that incision (or in this particular case, fill in the area with a skin graft because the amount of skin to be removed precluded a simple closure), we had to file a mountain of paperwork on a tight deadline because the procedure couldn’t wait more than a week or so.

I’ve also worked in hospitals, and every hospital I’ve worked in has social workers on staff to help patients line up emergency insurance coverage or financial assistance for emergency medical care. I never actually saw the bills for it, but we treated a kiddo that was a bystander in a drive-by shooting that was transferred to our hospital from another ER so that they could have the pediatric trauma surgeons try to fix his femur. So that’s two top-level ER visits, an ambulance ride, an ICU stay, and probably a bunch of surgeries and associated hospitalizations…because this 2 year old got hit in the leg with a stray bullet. The total almost certainly topped 7 digits. Shit’s fucked, yo.

aphlamingphoenix ,

It’s always a consideration, but the question is where would we move to (and how much am I willing to uproot my family)? Canada is a nice place with a better healthcare system, so maybe there? But that’s expensive all on its own, and I have to consider that I have two autistic kiddos who are currently receiving their education at the best school in the state for special ed kiddos. Is it worth it? Maybe not. For now, I think we should stay where we are. I love it here, except for the high cost of my own care. Think I’d rather stick it out and fight for a better system here. Maybe we can improve things for everyone instead of jumping ship.

Hadriscus ,

Yea, I can certainly understand the choice of staying and fighting for change

crazyCat ,

Health insurance doesn’t pay enough for shit, you end up destitute even with it.

Hadriscus ,

alright

Meowoem ,

But he’s British and we have a good NHS so that’s kinda a weird argument

I hate the royal family but for reasons that many sense

Scribbd ,

And when a president gets COVID he gets drugged up and gets the best treatment on the taxpayers dime. While the people are left with life shattering medical debt.

While these subjects can get medical treatment, for just a fraction, and no debts… Like the king…

So what is your point?

We have been playing the whole sad orchestra for you guys, seeing you push out this attitude like it is a win over something.

explodicle ,

Prime Minister : President :: Royalty : Kardashians

ToucheGoodSir ,

The president has an actual job tho??? Like wat lmao 🤣 and if you think the king is getting the same medical treatment as Mr jo British bong water, I have some EU membership to sell you.

Scribbd ,

A new tiny violin joins the choir.

And it is not the dig you wish it is. As it portrays even more that anyone in the UK, even those without an actual job, can get medical treatment without fearing massive medical debt.

ToucheGoodSir ,

That’s not addressing my point of… Why is the king receiving preferential treatment? His role is ceremonial. You could make the argument he’s paying for private treatment (I don’t know if he is or not), if he’s not why does he get to skip the NHS cancer treatment wait list? If he is paying for private… What exactly has he personally done to allow him to have the ABILITY to pay for said treatment:| Not saying all the royals wealth should be seized for the peoplez, more why is his families life style still to my understanding being subsidized by British tax payers? The tourism they bring in would still be coming, it’s not like they’re going to sell Buckingham palace if the gov stopped paying for their shit.

Scribbd ,

Sure, I also wish monarchies are cut of the tax payers spigot.

But why are you making this such a big point of having a rich old white dick getting preferential treatment? I thought you loved that shit in the USA. I thought the AMERICAN dream is to become a rich old white dick to get that sweet preferential (tax) treatment. To get your rich old white children get the same benefits through generational wealth.

Be mad that in the EU people can pay for both a rich old white dude play a monarch and socialized healthcare. While ever time you try and do something similar all the old white dicks crawl out of the woodwork to tell “HoW cAn We EvEr PaY fOr ThAt?!”

ToucheGoodSir ,

The UK… Isn’t… In the EU tho? For some (Russian) oligarch tax haven purposes to my understanding?

Scribbd ,

I didn’t claim it was. There are other countries with old white rich dicking monarchs and also have socialized healthcare, you buffoon.

ToucheGoodSir ,

But we’re talking about the UK monarchy specifically right? I wonder what the scandanavian monarchs for example are up to. & don’t get me wrong, the American political elite, at least a lot of them cough Republicans cough absolutely have the mentality of neonobility.

That kind of psychology and predisposition is something I hope is stamped out or at least vindicated by most of society. Be the change you want to see in the world:)

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

i mean we have the nhs in the uk, so it’s not really the same as the us since everyone here has access to the nhs

UnfortunateDoorHinge ,

The royal family brings in a net positive amount of revenue of you account for receipts from added tourism and spending. The expenses for shipping around the US President for example is another story.

crazyCat ,

No freaking way they’re a net positive.

Silentiea ,

I can’t speak for other tourists, but I don’t need the royals to actually still exist to be interested in seeing their accoutrements strewn about museums and to walk through their former palaces to admire the woodworking and gilding.

explodicle ,

How do they know what % tourists are there because of the royal family?

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

it’s pretty silly to say they live off the backs of uk taxpayers when royalist tourism brings in more tax revenue than anything.

Templa ,

Can you provide a source?

machiabelly ,
@machiabelly@hexbear.net avatar

royals are for guillotines

werefreeatlast ,

So if he croaks and his brother and sister and niece and her fried Stacie all croak, who’s going to be kind? You guess it! Rufus the cat.

aaaaaaadjsf ,
@aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net avatar

Is hating monarchies not natural? What gives someone the right to rule over others just because of their bloodline?

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar
ohitsbreadley ,

I mean, having some water nymph toss a sword at someones feet is at least as good of a justification for governmental power - and if I’m honest, a better one at that.

It’s like 40% more creative than “I have all the money and the big boogey man in the sky said I have the right to reign supreme - who are you to question God?

Akasazh ,
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

Yeah the news and world news subs really took a tumble of late. I came for some modicum of intellectual debate, but it’s a shame how quickly that derails.

Shepstr ,

Most subs seem to be afflicted.

Guntrigger ,

It depends very much on what instance the thread is on.

aairey ,

Which instances would you say are not afflicted?

Guntrigger ,

Beehaw.org is pretty chill. Blahaj.zone is cool too.

EnderMB ,

I dislike the royals, but ultimately any person suffering with cancer is deserving of sympathy.

purahna ,
@purahna@lemmygrad.ml avatar

I kind of think you’d have a different tune if this were Putin to be honest, wanna talk about why? In my mind, all of the appeals to civility are just status quo worship veiled in “human decency” that 1) doesn’t consider the good that would be brought to the world by his passing and 2) isn’t extended to anyone outside of the status quo power structure.

AMDIsOurLord ,

If Putin, Xi or {designated USA enemy} had cancer, fucking westerners would throw 7 days of celebrations

reverendsteveii ,

for this guy, who leeches off the work of real human beings and hides child rapists from justice? absolutely, my hate for him is a source of strength and pride, I’m glad to have it on display.

AssortedBiscuits ,
@AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net avatar

Imagine simping for an inbred German shambling corpse.

ohitsbreadley ,

Totally out of the loop on UK royalty, because they’re basically just a medieval version of the Kardashians that’s hung around waaaaay too long.

I was under the impression that the monarchy’s power was predicated on their right to rule being divine, which could only be maintained by keeping their bloodline inbred pure.

Charles is German?

PolandIsAStateOfMind , (edited )
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

Charles is German?

I wouldn’t say he is German, but German dynasties have sit on the British throne since George I was crowned in 1714. Up till queen Victoria all monarchs belonged to the house of Hanover. Victoria married Albert of house Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, and their son Edward VII was counted as the member of that dynasty. Edward’s son George V changed their surname to “Windsor” in 1917.

And i imagine that the house of Saxony which part house Saxe-Coburg and Gotha is, is pretty inbred since basically every surviving european noble today is either part of it or closely related.

AssortedBiscuits ,
@AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net avatar

Queen Victoria is from the House of Hanover and Prince Albert is from the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. The British royal family changed their house to Windsor during WWI because the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha sounded too German.

If you’re going by just family ancestry, Charles III is mostly German. Here’s me after wasting time on Wikipedia:

Maternal grandfather’s grandparents:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_VII: Anglicized German

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_of_Denmark: Danish

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis,_Duke_of_Teck: Austrian

en.wikipedia.org/…/Princess_Mary_Adelaide_of_Camb…: German

Maternal grandmother’s grandparents:

en.wikipedia.org/…/Claude_Bowes-Lyon,_13th_Earl_o…: English

en.wikipedia.org/…/Frances_Bowes-Lyon,_Countess_o…: English

en.wikipedia.org/…/Charles_Cavendish-Bentinck_(pr…: English

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisa_Cavendish-Bentinck: English

Paternal grandfather’s grandparents:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_IX_of_Denmark: Danish

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_of_Hesse-Kassel: German

en.wikipedia.org/…/Grand_Duke_Konstantin_Nikolaye…: Russian Romanov, but he had 3 German grandparents, so his ancestry is mostly German

en.wikipedia.org/…/Princess_Alexandra_of_Saxe-Alt…: German

Paternal grandmother’s grandparents:

en.wikipedia.org/…/Prince_Alexander_of_Hesse_and_…: German

en.wikipedia.org/…/Julia,_Princess_of_Battenberg: Pole of German descent

en.wikipedia.org/…/Louis_IV%252C_Grand_Duke_of_He…: German

en.wikipedia.org/…/Princess_Alice_of_the_United_K…: German

ohitsbreadley ,

Thank you for the hardcore wiki linking - sincerely, I appreciate the labor you put into this reply.

C3 is a certified Deutsch.

Wild that they could just… Change their house like that. “Oh all that family lineage and history, no, no the name sounds quite too much like those jerries - the peasants won’t like it much - what now? yes yes, Windsor we are, always have been, chip cheerio - get in the trench my good chap, and fight my former brethren, I mean those awful germans.”

Shepstr ,

Who did what now?

DefinitelyNotAPhone ,
@DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net avatar

I’m begging liberals to remember the one cool thing they ever did, which was chopping off their monarchs’ heads, and commit to that. Just that. Come on now, this is an argument that’s been solved for like 200 years now: monarchs and aristocrats are dogshit and deserve to be forcibly removed from their positions of wealth and authority.

AMDIsOurLord ,

Please for the love of anything you love stop crying for monarchists and bring back the guillotine. For FUCKS SAKE YOU’RE LITERALLY THINKING LIKE A MIDDLE AGES SERF. GOD EMPEROR SHIT RIGHT HERE

If any of you fucking liberals ever say ANYTHING about communist countries having cults of personality I’m going to haul ass and personally take shits inside your house that will leave you confused for years to come

nohaybanda ,
Shepstr ,

That’s quite the hot take.

veng ,

…Cup of tea, sir?

Xer0 ,

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  • ButtBidet ,
    @ButtBidet@hexbear.net avatar

    I came here to say: Good take

    Guntrigger ,

    I think it’s because we are in .ml and the Hexbears are allowed in here

    ShimmeringKoi ,
    @ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

    Mod! mods! These dirty anti-monarchists are ruining our civil discussion!

    Shepstr ,

    The civility is somewhat lacking.

    ShimmeringKoi ,
    @ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

    Genocidal monarchs do not deserve civility, it’s part of the deal.

    Shepstr ,

    Charles has committed genocide?

    ShimmeringKoi , (edited )
    @ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

    He is the monarch of a state currently bombing Yemen in an attempt to stop their blockade of supplies, military and otherwise, to Isreal. Yes, he is assisting in the genocide of Gaza.

    Shepstr ,

    Let’s assume your narrative is true. Where is Charles in the decision making process?

    ShimmeringKoi ,
    @ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

    Let’s assume your narrative is true

    Into the cuck pit with you, genocide denier pit

    Shepstr ,

    Not denying anything. Not my problem if you don’t know the answer.

    ShimmeringKoi ,
    @ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

    Begone little puke

    Shepstr ,

    Lol, sipfo

    ShimmeringKoi ,
    @ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar
    n3m37h ,

    Do you want a list of the atrocities committed by the English monarchy?

    Hate for this family is deserved

    aairey ,

    I’m listening … 🍿

    joenforcer ,

    Remember all the circlejerking about how Lemmy was kinder than Reddit? Nah it’s the same maybe worse, with a heavy heaping of communism sprinkled in.

    DengistDonnieDarko ,
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    computerscientistI , to worldnews in King Charles III diagnosed with cancer, Buckingham Palace says

    The royal family, including Charles are big proponents of homeopathy. Let’s see how much homeopathy is going to help him now. I’m sure at least as much as those alternative methods Steve Jobs chose helped him, back then…

    brbposting ,

    You’ve got to be kidding me. Is it corruption or stupidity? As in, are they selling vials of contaminated water as medicine or are they just known to trust pseudoscience?

    computerscientistI ,

    The water/solvent isn’t even contaminated. It is deluted so thoroughly, you can’t even find a single molecule of whatever ingredient is supposed to show any effect.

    brbposting ,
    PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
    @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

    It’s hypocrisy and the typical rich bozo alienation syndrome, they have easy and unlimited access to best medicine in the world, so it’s easy to forget that others don’t and promote charlatanerie. It could also be malicious if we look at how they don’t do anything against gutting the healthcare.

    brbposting ,

    So, stupidity or strong belief in placebo?

    PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
    @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

    I imagine he is not that stupid nor really believes in a placebo.

    cupcakezealot ,
    @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    i mean one of king charles issues has been furthering cancer research…

    Stanwich , to news in Barry John: Legendary Wales and Lions fly-half dies aged 79

    Is that an option? Half die?

    kandoh , to worldnews in King Charles III diagnosed with cancer, Buckingham Palace says

    It will be so funny if he takrs a sharp turn downhill and dies. Dude was famous for never getting a chance to be king and then to go out so quickly would be * chef’s kiss *

    whoisearth ,
    @whoisearth@lemmy.ca avatar

    Oh his death bed “but mummy I want to be king!”

    sunbeam60 ,

    It is nevertheless another human you are talking about.

    HerbalGamer ,
    @HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Barely.

    LoveSausage ,

    Nah.

    naevaTheRat ,
    @naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Do you think they have any compassion for the random proles like us? Like they could divest themselves of wealth to help people, and just live luxurious lives instead of gold flakes in food lives.

    I think any human being with enough compassion to deserve treatment as anything more than a hostile enemy would do that

    sunbeam60 ,

    I think they’d have compassion enough to not laugh at somebody’s cancer diagnosis, yes.

    I’m all for disliking the institution. Doesn’t mean I think he deserves to have cancer or it would be funny if he died.

    gamermanh ,
    @gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Good for you, you get a good start for morality then

    naevaTheRat ,
    @naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    He literally chooses every single day to actively ignore the plight of the people he claims to rule. He does nothing

    Every single day he actively chooses to ignore suffering, probably even cracks jokes about it, while actively working to preserve his enormous privilege and protect his kin from facing consequences for their heinous actions. He stands at the head of an institution of violence, racism, cruelty, and exploitation and every single moment of his life he chooses to side with that over any earnest attempt to redeem their reputation.

    The entire justification for their privilege is so insane it makes phrenology look respectable.

    He is horrible, he could help so many people with a few words and the equivalent of pocket change but he chooses not to for fear of starting a process that ends with him living as one of the ordinary citizens he claims to protect. It’s fucking bananas that you think there is some moral reasons to extend civility to such a monsterous person.

    sunbeam60 ,

    If you think I’m defending the monarchy, think again. I’m defending compassion.

    naevaTheRat ,
    @naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    It’s not brave or noble to police expressions of anger at oppressors it’s just foolish. It won’t make society better, civility is just a tool the powerful use to enforce the status quo.

    He chooses to let someone starve over feeding them, this is fine a civil behavior. I call him a fucking cunt for doing that and wish death upon him and this is uncivil behaviour and I lack compassion? nonsense, it is compassion that fills me with rage.

    Xer0 ,

    Imagine anyone saying that about one of your family members.

    kandoh ,

    It’s okay to wish bad things happen to a monarch billionaire landlord, actually. It’s good and rad.

    reverendsteveii ,

    it’s okay if my family members die shortly after becoming king of england

    explodicle ,

    I’m rich! See ya later suckers, I’m subscribing to Lemmy Deluxe Edition!

    naevaTheRat ,
    @naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    If I ever have a golden piano while someone on the planet goes cold and hungry at night you can draw and quarter me.

    kusukasaka281 , to worldnews in King Charles III diagnosed with cancer, Buckingham Palace says

    Oh no… anyway…

    PeckerBrown , to worldnews in King Charles III diagnosed with cancer, Buckingham Palace says

    …zzzzzzzzzzzzz…

    CanadaPlus , to worldnews in King Charles III diagnosed with cancer, Buckingham Palace says

    Hmm, which king William will William be?

    Pulptastic ,

    The one from Epstein Island

    CanadaPlus , (edited )

    V, for anyone wondering. And there might be a William V in Luxembourg too, so I eagerly await the two getting mixed up in amusing ways.

    Or, alternatively, he could go with his “Louis” or “Arthur” middle names, which would be good for different jokes.

    Pulptastic ,

    Wouldn’t have a Willy or a Sam

    o_d , to worldnews in King Charles III diagnosed with cancer, Buckingham Palace says
    @o_d@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    I can’t wait to be smoking on that king pack. meme is locked and loaded.

    BilboBargains , to worldnews in King Charles III diagnosed with cancer, Buckingham Palace says

    Oh man, he only just got his dream job.

    Sagifurius ,

    Nah, he was doing his dream job the whole time, running a research farm and advocating for sustainable farming practices. Soon as he became king, he had to stop with the targeted advocacy.

    set_secret ,

    he also advocated for homoeopathy…maybe that’s what he’ll treat his cancer with (i hope so)

    BudgetBandit ,

    I recently got the side-eye from a lot of people because I said that homeopathy is not the same as natural remedies.

    frezik ,

    What’s unnatural about water?

    Pipoca ,

    It’s not that there’s anything unnatural about water. It’s just not a remedy for anything but dehydration.

    FordBeeblebrox ,

    Ah the Steve Jobs treatment method, maybe he’ll adopt the fruit diet. Shame Harry gave up his claim, he seemed like the one with Lizzie’s spirit

    venji10 , to worldnews in King Charles III diagnosed with cancer, Buckingham Palace says

    Who cares about this random man having cancer?

    Xtallll ,
    @Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    When he dies the UK will spend around $300 milion on his funeral and a party for his kid.

    Nfamwap ,

    Fuck the monarchy. Fucking parasites.

    frshmt ,

    Unelected sponges, as Bill Bailey once put it

    CluckN ,

    Will it also become a Holiday or is he not that cool?

    LateSilver ,

    I do! I think it’s hilarious.

    peter ,
    @peter@feddit.uk avatar

    So brave and controversial of you to pretend he’s just a random man

    ARk ,

    So brave and controversial for you to be eating downvotes for not being in the hivemind

    NikkiDimes ,
    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
    @inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world avatar

    But he literally is an ordinary guy. The most consequential thing he has ever done with his life is to be born into an arbitrarily special family where he lived in luxury and prominence for no other reason than he continued existing. He is nothing more than an ordinary guy with extraordinary luck.

    peter ,
    @peter@feddit.uk avatar

    Luck or not he is the king, so he’s not just a random guy. Pretending to not undeerstand that fact just to make a point adds nothing to the discussion

    psud ,

    I care, I don’t like him and like the chance to cheer for the cancer

    urfavlaura , to worldnews in King Charles III diagnosed with cancer, Buckingham Palace says

    oh no anyway

    but in all seriousness I hope he dies that guy is a piece of shit

    Twentytwodividedby7 ,

    Based on what specific actions? Just curious

    CanadaPlus ,

    Yeah, hot take, but he’s underrated. Monarchy is dumb but at least this guy is progressive and personally kind.

    Squizzy ,

    Personally kind enough to publicly carry on an affair for years

    peter ,
    @peter@feddit.uk avatar

    We all gotta get some

    CanadaPlus , (edited )

    Just sounds like a rich dude to me. Like, I think this is the main reason he’s unpopular, but aristos often keep a harem and Diana herself seems overrated.

    Botanicals ,

    Him and his current wife visibly mocked Inuit throat singers and have a long history of being childish and rude during events that are supposed to honor them. Personally kind to whom?

    CanadaPlus , (edited )

    Did he? I didn’t know about that. So, just white people then.

    HerbalGamer ,
    @HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar
    1. He’s a Royal.
    kamenoko ,

    He was close friends with two high profile pedophiles. That’s enough for me.

    Xer0 ,

    When I signed up here, I genuinely thought this place was going to be better than Reddit. Seeing the difference in comments here and on Reddit for this exact same piece of news, just made me realise that this place is a piece of shit with absolutely zero empathy for anyone.

    Thordros ,
    @Thordros@hexbear.net avatar

    “Could it be that the zero empathy is because the man is reviled globally for good reasons?”

    “No, it’s the colonized who are wrong.”

    Alaskaball ,
    @Alaskaball@hexbear.net avatar

    Damn redditors actually have a correct opinion on the most basic thing?

    Well shit, broken clocks and all that

    Xer0 ,

    Reading is hard apparently. I said the difference in comments between here and reddit, meaning what I saw over there was NOT people wishing for his death.

    nohaybanda ,

    Common Reddit L

    aaaaaaadjsf ,
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    The redditors got it right for once?

    Why would you have empathy for monarchs? It’s the ultimate form of nepotism, believing that they can rule an entire country because of their bloodline. If they don’t abdicate the throne and dissolve the institution, they don’t deserve respect.

    Xer0 ,

    The redditors didn’t agree with wishing death upon the man, no. It was the exact opposite from what I saw.

    TheLepidopterists ,
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    Probably just the anglo intelligence assets that pass for moderators over there removed all the cool comments. What can you do shrug-outta-hecks

    ShimmeringKoi ,
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    Redditors habitually wish death upon homeless people and porch pirates, of course they bootlick monarchs too.

    purahna ,
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    give us one singular solitary good reason we should have empathy for this decrepit, cheating, silver spoon mouthed, tax leeching, sex pest, waste of money and attention

    Sleazy_Albanese ,

    He’s about to prove homeopathy really works. He’s going to change the world for the better.

    WittyProfileName2 ,
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    No one voted for the wanker, but we still have to pay to keep him and his incestous kin in riches while our fellow countrymen starve in the street.

    He wants pity, he should abandon this hereditary rule bullshit and take all those unelected peers up in parliament with him back to the medieval age where they belong.

    LaLuzDelSol ,

    Nah its just a leftist echo chamber. They have sympathy for the working class, but are very prejudiced against the wealthy. Personally, I would guess Charles is a decent human being, like most people. Im sure hes done some shitty things over the course of a long and extremely public life, but pretty much everyone has. I disagree with the concept of royalty but that doesn’t mean I want all monarchs to drop dead. Not a lot of nuance on Lemmy.

    FALGSConaut ,
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    Imagine pearl clutching for some ancient inbred royal dipshit. Literal medieval peasant brain. “Oh no won’t someone think of the million year old pervert who lived a long life full of luxury one can barely begin to comprehend” Fuck him, fuck his whole family, I hope every single royal gets aggressive untreatable cancer, that’s better than they deserve.

    TL,DR: dennis I didn’t vote for him!

    Xer0 ,

    Holy fucking shit, triggered much little bro?

    FALGSConaut ,
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    Mainly confused and surprised someone would support a monarch in the 21st century. You don’t even have the excuse that the queen has been in charge for your whole life so you feel obligated to support her out of a misplaced sense of loyalty or something. Some ancient failson gets to sit in a golden chair and you can’t lick his boots fast enough. It’s pathetic, you aren’t even worshiping someone who can claim they got to where they are on personal merit, he just had to wait for his mom to die and he almost couldn’t even do that! Monarchy is such a farce, I’d be embarrassed to support that shit

    Xer0 ,

    Sure seems to have hit a nerve with you.

    TC_209 ,

    Charlie is never gonna fuck you.

    7bicycles ,

    made me realise that this place is a piece of shit with absolutely zero empathy for anyone.

    Is every person the king of england or how do you get to this conclusion?

    Templa ,

    I understand your frustration but I fail to understand why the need of empathy for a monarch of all people

    comrade_pibb ,
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    king charlie plz notice me uwu

    ComradeLove ,
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    If this was a gay asylum seeking Guatemalan Muslim woman union leader we’d probably react differently, so you’re wrong about that.

    ShimmeringKoi ,
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    Not so, we have plenty of empathy for those who actually deserve it.

    Palestine will be free, long live the PFLP, long live Ansar Allah, full support to the DPRK in it’s quest to free their southern siblings from beneath the heel of the genocidal American empire.

    0xtero , to worldnews in King Charles III diagnosed with cancer, Buckingham Palace says

    Oh no.
    Anyways

    Johandea , to worldnews in King Charles III diagnosed with cancer, Buckingham Palace says

    Never mind the cancer. That old building speaks?!

    gregorum ,

    With as much as the White House and Number 10 speak, this surprises you?

    Aggravationstation ,

    If that building could talk it would say some incredibly disturbing things.

    ShimmeringKoi ,
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    Centuries-long blood ritual

    jordanlund , to worldnews in King Charles III diagnosed with cancer, Buckingham Palace says
    @jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

    Would be weird for the longest serving monarch to be replaced by the shortest serving one.

    Which raises a good question… who was the shortest serving British monarch?

    Oh, of COURSE there’s a Wiki for that…

    …wikipedia.org/…/List_of_British_monarchy_records

    “The shortest-reigning monarch was Lady Jane Grey who ruled for 9 days from 6 July until 15 July 1553 (although she was only proclaimed queen by the Lords of the council on 10 July). Her husband Lord Guildford Dudley was her consort for the entire reign, making this the shortest tenure of the male consort of a female monarch. Note: Jane’s reign is disputed.

    The king with the shortest definitively known reign was Edgar the Ætheling who ruled for 2 months, 12 days in 1066 before submitting to William the Conqueror. Some records indicate that Sweyn Forkbeard reigned for only 40 days in 1013–4.[7]”

    Queen Elizabeth II died 9/8/2022, so Charles has already been in 514 days. He’s good…

    thessnake03 ,

    He’s still pretty far down the overall list though

    …wikipedia.org/…/List_of_monarchs_in_Britain_by_l…

    tegs_terry ,

    Edgar the Aethling was elected after Harold for about a month in 1066

    explodicle ,

    Would be weird for the longest serving monarch to be replaced by the shortest serving one.

    That makes a lot of sense actually. Elizabeth II cut into his time.

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