A little disappointed in BBC with the clickbait title there… All is not lost as the headline implies, per the article:
While fuller communication is not yet established, Voyager 2 is programmed to reset its orientation multiple times each year to keep its antenna pointing at Earth. The next reset is due on 15 October, which Nasa says “should enable communication to resume”.
Frustrating that they make it sound like this is a big deal.
They did update the title later to “Voyager 2: Nasa picks up ‘heartbeat’ signal after sending wrong command”, I’m using original title they used when publishing the article.
It’s pretty frustrating that the news lately just goes out of their way to make things look bleak. Like that CNN story about Saturn’s rings “disappearing”. They mentioned that “future astronomers might not get the chance to view Saturn’s rings.” and went on about how they were disappearing. At the very end of the article was the estimate of the timeline, and it was 100 million years. Give me a fucking break. These fucking news outlets with their clickbait bullshit titles just irritates me. I get you were just posting what was there. My frustration is just at the news outlets themselves.
There’s widespread corruption in the organization. Think the mafia, but with less pizzazz. It could be well “file erasure”, competition elimination, or just plain vengeance behind all this.
The federal police (think FBI) do good work in general, but they’re a much smaller force.
The operation in Guarujá was criticised by Brazil’s Justice Minister Flavio Dino, who said the police’s reaction was not proportional to the crime committed.
I am curious, what would have been a proportional respond to a police officer being killed then? Let them get away without anything?
As tragic as any life loss is, I am not sure what other outcome could be expected from going after traffickers that are killing officers
Knockout gas? Tranquilizer darts? Anything that’s not a kill shot. These people were killed by the state without due process. Obviously killing anyone (a cop or otherwise) is bad and wrong, and should be punished after a fair trial. But spraying bullets, killing a total of 43 people in three separate raids, is indiscriminate and disproportionate, and does not represent a just outcome for anyone involved.
None of those are realistic options. Gas has to be administered by an anesthesiologist to be effective (else you get this), tranquilizers also have to be dosed and probably aren’t very effective on an armored target behind cover, and there’s no way to shoot someone just to wound like in the movies, since even a shot to the leg could sever the femoral artery and cause someone to bleed to death very quickly.
I agree that this was probably disproportionate, but I’m not sure what other option there is in the short term when the target is an armed and fortified paramilitary force.
I don’t want to defend police violence, but knockout gas and tranquilizer darts are more of a Hollywood trope than actual viable method of subduing combatants.
Just to clear it up a bit, these are three different operations in three different states with three different intents and even different targets. While sad, the framing makes it seem like it was all one big coordinated effort by the “Brazilian Police,” which is actually divided in command on a state level (and are very independent from the government). For the Yankees, it’d be like reporting people killed in USA police operations in California and New York in a single breath. This is a common trick of Gringo news to make it seem like third world countries are more dangerous than they actually are, coupled with only reporting on them when tragedies happen.
To the people reading the comments and who are against the death penalty: this man has no mental illness he simply is an antisemitic piece of shit who deeply desired to see people suffer, there is no chance of rehabilitation at 50 years old and that far gone off the deep end.
Yeah, I’m not in the slightest bit upset this guy’s getting executed, but I’m still against the death penalty on principle because not every person sentenced to death is clearly guilty like this POS is, some have even been proven to be innocent. It’s also expensive as hell to sentence someone to death because of the extensive appeals process. When making laws, it’s crucial to look at the outliers and unintended consequences of the policy.
There's also a shockingly high failure rate for modes of state execution, and a lot of gross details surrounding it as a method of punishment. Jacob Geller did a great and disturbing video about it:
If he did not have the death sentence, he would be protected in prison by the racist white extremist population in there, in fact he would live a comfortable and safe life in prison because his racist peers in there would celebrate him and provide for him.
Fuck that, and fuck you for defending him. Kill that antisemitic piece of shit yesterday. I'll do it myself for free.
You’re out of pocket. Nobody is defending this asshole, and you’re delusional if you think prison is comfortable for anyone. This prick won’t be getting executed any time soon; he will sit in prison for years regardless, tying up court resources appealing his execution during that time.
I realize that this is the thoughts of a psychopath, but there must be people out there who do not feel a remote level of remorse killing other human beings who have been convicted criminals that cannot be rehabilitated and would enjoy satiating a primal need.
I enjoy living in a safe and considerate society, and take care of my elderly neighbors and family, I call my friends when they feel ill, yet I also enjoy the thoughts of murdering pedophiles and serial killers as a strange justified bloodlust.
I understand we all like to think most people want live in a peaceful and caring society, but to put it bluntly there are many people out there who do not give a fuck about any of that and enjoy seeing suffering to make themselves feel better. Having limp-wrist peace-and-love rose-tinted glasses pacifists are not going to protect you from those monsters.
It all depends on the circumstances of prison. Take him somewhere where there are no gangs getting to him. Handle him correctly, but with zero empathy,no goodwill,no good behaviour, nothing. There is zero comfort, zero safety beyond the rules of the institution.
It is absolutely possible to make that happen - and the US does a mighty fine job at it in the more advanced institutions like Florence from what I hear.
Real life is no prison movie,mate.
The real risk is that the orange is pardoning him if he gets to power …
My opinion of the accused has absolutely nothing to do with my objection to the death penalty. Actually, the fact that you brought it up is rather telling, in that what you're advocating for simply boils down to revenge, which has no place whatsoever in the criminal justice system.
The death penalty is not widely supported among Jewish communities — doubly so for the reform population in my old neighborhood in Pittsburgh. I agree with you that this feels right, but I can’t help but feel like this is justice delivered for people other than the affected. I miss Squirrel Hill every day, and I am not sure that the wound that this asshole created will ever heal. I think about the lost every day.
I’m generally pro killing nazis when practical concerns prevent their rehabilitation like in this situation but given the environment I worry this will just give the nazis another martyr to rally around.
Exactly, sentence him to death by old age, but only after spending the next 30 years in a cell surrounded by assholes. Jokes aside, he does deserve it, but the state should not have the authority to take the lives of its citizens.
If you support the death penalty then you believe either:
The government’s judgements are infallible and it would never falsely execute an innocent person, OR
You are okay with the government executing an innocent person.
I definitely don’t think they’re infallible, as there are loads of cases where people are exonerated only after serving decades in prison, or after their death. And I’m definitely not okay with the government executing an innocent person.
The death penalty does not bring peace to victims or their families. You reopen old wounds every time the media talks about a new appeal or delay. With life in prison, they stay silent and forgotten.
This gets lost among all the other arguments: wrong conviction, costs, etc.
I have two major oppositions to capital punishment, and neither are rooted in the possibility of rehabilitation or not.
The state is not infallible. If you put someone into prison for ten years and find out you messed up, you can at least release them. You can’t give them those years back, but you can try to do right by them as much as you are able. You execute the wrong person? You’re just a murderer.
Personally, life in prison (and not a cushy wall street exec prison) seems like a way worse punishment. Even if I was only concerned with providing somebody the worst possible punishment, lifetime imprisonment would be worse.
From a guy that is more right than left, you really missed the point. Of course he is guilty beyond doubt. You only have to look at the countries that still have a death sentence to see what group the US associates this with. That after ignoring innocent people and costs etc
Killing while necessary for self defense can be justified. The death sentence is like killing someone who is running away from you and no threat. It is barbaric. I don’t think rehabilitation is in anyone’s thought. Personally for life sentences I don’t think the prison system has to consider that at all. I don’t think it has to be particularly cruel but I don’t think it has to be particular comfortable either for those who can never join society again.
The article says they are playing and not acting out of aggression. I don’t think Orcas are hunted much anymore, at least just not in large numbers, and the boats being targeted are small fishing vessels not whaling boats.
No they are afraid of election in current state. They control elections. The moment their economy stablizes military will put a puppet again. Just like once imran was.
"It's only a game. It isn't revenge [against boats], it isn't climate change, it's just a game and that's it," said Dr Renaud de Stephanis, a scientist based on the south coast of Spain.
It's only a matter of time some low-effort studio makes this into a monster-of-the-week horror movie for the Syfy network.
I'm looking at you The Asylum, who made that horrible movie Atlantic Rim. I'll never get that 85 minutes of my life back again.
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