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werefreeatlast , to news in Boeing: How much trouble is the company in?

I had the pleasure of interviewing several engineers from Boeing with PhDs and almost the worst interviews ever. Very awkward interviews and possibly the worst in person interview ever.

iknowitwheniseeit ,

Did you publish these? It would be interesting to read!

Or maybe give some more insight here onto what you mean by “worst interview”. That could be so many things… 😉

werefreeatlast ,

How can a PhD engineer fail an interview among barely junior engineers? And fail it so badly that it officially became our worse interview ever?

This person also had the audacity to call back and several times to demand to be interviewed again. During the interview I would ask simple engineering questions like “can you elaborate on F=ma” and the guy, instead of giving a straight answer “it’s the relationship between the force applied to a mass and the acceleration achieved” he would go in these crazy ass rants about stuff I can’t repeat and can’t remember. You know the stuff very well…like when your wife, husband or life partner starts talking to you about your mom and you love your mom so you shut down the listening port on your brain. Just ehem and uhumed the rest of the interview. It was bad. It was so bad that the junior engineers told me it was bad. Usually they hold judgment out of respect.

Buddahriffic ,

Reminds me of my worst interview, though the candidate wasn’t phd. It was a recent bachelor’s grad doing a remote interview and he obviously had someone helping him (we could hear them whispering). Funny part was neither of them had a clue so the guy cheated but still gave among the worst responses.

I can only assume he cheated his way to graduation, too.

turkishdelight , to news in Boeing: How much trouble is the company in?

No trouble at all. It’s impossible to get into trouble when there is no competition.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

except from Airbus… so yeah. there’s competition.

No_Eponym ,
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Et moi, Bombardier?

joenforcer ,

And what aboot Canadair?

turkishdelight ,

hardly. airbus can’t double it’s production overnight.

agitatedpotato ,

They’re not American, the US government would sooner ban them than levy consequences on the American company.

exanime , to news in Boeing: How much trouble is the company in?

Likely not a all… The only chance these behemoth companies get punished is by the public turning on them but they have already insulated themselves from that (most people would not know how to avoid their planes when booking the next vacation on Expedia)

In a properly working environment, even a Capitalist one, the government should intervene, jail the board, and either nationalize it or auction it off for parts… The most important part is really the jailing of the board

Sir_Kevin ,

Boeing and the american government are too deep in bed. Nothing significant will happen. Maybe a few executives get fired just to satisfy the demands for action. In fact the american government will likely bail the company out when things take a dive (their stock as well as their aircraft).

exanime ,

Sadly, I believe you are 100% right

billiam0202 , to news in Boeing: How much trouble is the company in?

Boeing: How much trouble is the company in?

Not as much as they should be in, probably.

WhoIsTheDrizzle , to news in Boeing: How much trouble is the company in?

They also likely murdered John Barnett, but I’m sure they are too big to fail or be tried for murder.

credo ,

Kinda hard to try a corporation for murder and stick it in jail, even though we all know it’s a person.

Zron ,

Whole company? Very difficult.

Whole board of directors? That’s easy

sagrotan , to news in Boeing: How much trouble is the company in?
@sagrotan@lemmy.world avatar

The founder, William Boeing, was a a white segregationist, active against mixed racial marriages, believed in the pure white blood and shit. His parents were Austrian/ German, Böing. America, the land of opportunity.

FlyingSquid ,
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Sure, and Henry Ford was an out-and-out antisemite who published a newspaper where he serialized the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and Hitler kept a photo of him on his desk.

That doesn’t mean we should expect Ford cars to fall apart on the road.

It’s way too late to be pissed off about William Boeing or Henry Ford. Or Hugo Boss or Ferdinand Porsche, who directly worked with the Nazis.

Or IBM or the Coca-Cola company, which did too.

Etc.

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  • FlyingSquid ,
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    I mean it’s too late to expect people to blame the problems of the companies on that.

    My dad used to refuse to buy VW cars because “the Beetle was designed by Hitler.” As if money to Volskwagen went back in time to the Nazi coffers. He didn’t have anything to say about the emissions scandal.

    Edit: It would be like blaming Steve Jobs for any bad thing Apple has done since he died as if it were his fault and not Tim Cook’s.

    arefx ,

    Sure but we can’t automatically blame the people alive today for something that happened long before they were around, lol

    superduperenigma ,

    Henry Ford is also the reason kids learn square dancing in school. I actually had to learn how to dance like a hillbilly in gym class because some long-dead antisemite was once convinced that jazz music and the Charleston (read: black people and anything cultural that they contribute) would corrupt the youth, who could only be saved by the purity of barnyard dancing.

    I don’t know how this contributes to the conversation at hand, but I think about it a lot.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Ugh. I hated square dancing so much.

    bobs_monkey ,

    Swing your partner round and round,
    Pick her up and throw her down.

    Makes sense given the crowd.

    ripcord ,
    @ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

    Did you learn other kinds of dance too? That sounds…not bad.

    Eldritch ,

    No, just square dancing. Nothing else.

    Sir_Kevin ,

    That was my grade school experience as well. Even as a child I was confused by how much square dancing they made us do and absolutely no other forms of dance.

    Eldritch ,

    Yes, it’s truly wild how often things in the United States often originate from a fascistic or cultish source. Daylight savings time, cereal, etc. granted it’s been almost 40 years. I don’t know if they still do it. But they did back in the '70s and '80s for sure. But with all the satanic panic of the '90s I doubt they started pushing it any less LOL.

    bobs_monkey ,

    How does DST tie in?

    Eldritch ,

    Initially it was called war time. And it was even used even in Europe from WWI through WWII. But post WWII most abandoned it. Including the United States. It had nothing to do with farmers. They’re actually one of the groups most against it.

    It was standardized in the United States in 1966 at the behest of wealthy retailers who lobbied the government. Believing the extra hour of daylight correlated in some meaningful way to increased sales. It didn’t. But that was the rationale.

    The most recent changes to DST, pushing it to the first of November. Happened in the late 2010’s. Largely pushed for by candy makers/retailers, again claiming it would boost sales and somehow be safer. (Halloween)

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    It was a PE activity in my school.

    Mouselemming ,

    That’s sad, in my elementary school we learned square dancing, but also the Mexican Hat Dance and Tinikling and the Polka, I can’t remember if there were others since it was back in the 1960s. I think learning the Charleston would have been fun! When I taught 2nd grade, dance wasn’t part of PE but for a countries around the world assembly I taught my class some Russian (and, now I know better, some of it was Ukrainian) folk dances I had learned from my Russian ballet teacher. They got a kick out of it.

    SpaceCowboy ,
    @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

    Coca Cola?

    From what I understand they severed all business with Germany when the war started and because of this Germany had to start making Fanta.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    Coca-Cola didn’t officially sever ties until 1941, when America entered the war, not when it started. Fanta was manufactured by Coca-Cola’s facilities in Nazi Germany with the full expectation that those facilities would re-merge with Coca-Cola when the war was over. And guess what happened when the war was over?

    SpaceCowboy ,
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    Well yeah the bottling plants were the property of Coca-Cola before the war. After the war it would be expected that property would be returned to Coca Cola. Bottling plants are physical things that couldn’t be instantly teleported from Germany when Germany declared war on the US, so they continued to operate. The existence of Fanta proves that Coca Cola didn’t support the bottling plants in Germany, not evidence they were colluding with the Nazi government. If they were secretly supplying those bottling plants they would’ve been able to continue producing Coca Cola and Fanta wouldn’t exist.

    Yes Coca Cola existed in the same time period as the Nazis. Maybe they should’ve stopped doing business with Germany earlier. But the idea that a business is going to push political ideals seems like an unreasonable expectation. There’s no clear path for a business on this other than following the law which Coca Cola did. The real question should be about why the US government didn’t impose sanctions on Germany earlier for their horrible politics. It’s really elected governments that should decide foreign policy, not private entities.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I really think this is beside my point.

    SpaceCowboy ,
    @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

    You’re point being that anyone that people in the past should have known the future?

    History is like a mystery novel where you’ve read the last chapter first. People in the past didn’t immediately think Nazi=bad like we do today. The full extent of how evil they were hadn’t happened yet. Remember there are many things that you’re associated with now that in the future will be seen as monstrous.

    Right now there are many acts of violence towards Jews by certain movements. How careful have you been in making sure you have no associations with that?

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    No, my point was that the antisemitism of Henry Ford (and other issues there) have no bearing on the problems their companies are responsible for today.

    And do tell me, and I’m Jewish incidentally, how to disassociate myself from violence towards Jews.

    TWeaK ,

    That has little to nothing to do with the current state of affairs at Boeing. The current situation was brought about by the merger between Boeing and McDonnell Douglas, with the MDD executives joining Boeing’s board of directors and continuing the same shitty behaviour. Eg, with the MD-10 and its cargo door, the issue was raised at design stage, denied until after 2 massive fatal accidents occurred, and then they tried to get around it with “gentleman’s agreements” with the FAA - just like with the MCAS issue on the 737 MAX.

    The problems can be pinned down to a very small number of executives, who belong in prison.

    HobbitFoot ,

    And part of the problem is that McDonnell Douglas left the commercial aviation market because they couldn’t compete with Boeing.

    postmateDumbass ,

    If you can’t beat them, merge and rot them from the inside out!

    saltesc ,

    Are you asserting 737 Max issues and the latency to mechanically resolve them is caused by a family legacy of white supremacy haunting the board rooms of present day Boeing HQ?

    Because I otherwise don’t see your point in the context of this article and news.

    elbarto777 ,

    I don’t see the point either, though it’s an interesting (and sad) piece of trivia, which I didn’t know.

    solidgrue ,
    @solidgrue@lemmy.world avatar

    Be that as it may, Boeing himself was a stickler for quality and set a vision of quality and excellence that made Boeing aircraft some of the safest in the fleet, up until their merger with McDonnell Douglas. It was said he’d rather go out of business than ship a shoddy product.

    The corporation isn’t the person. That’s sort of the point.

    Zachariah , to news in Boeing: How much trouble is the company in?
    @Zachariah@lemmy.world avatar

    A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don’t do one.

    darvocet ,

    Which car company did you say you worked for again?

    lorty ,
    @lorty@lemmy.ml avatar

    Why do you expect it to be different for any of them?

    24_at_the_withers ,

    It’s a sequence of quotes from Fight Club

    Zachariah ,
    @Zachariah@lemmy.world avatar

    A major one.

    credo ,

    They have to factor in the cost of the reputational damage too. But yeah, it’s all a dollar game.

    Mirshe ,

    Reputational damage is almost negligible in the modern market. Market capture in most hard-good industries, especially specialized industries like aerospace, is complete enough that you have very few options - sure, you could just not buy a Boeing airliner for your airline, but you have exactly two choices in large aircraft, and it’s not like production is easily-scalable.

    DesertMagma ,

    the first rule…

    Zachariah ,
    @Zachariah@lemmy.world avatar

    we don’t talk about Bruno

    diablexical , to worldnews in Paul Alexander, the polio survivor who spent over 70 years in an Iron Lung, has died at 78

    This guy could have gone trach/vent 60 years ago and been mobile on wheelchair.

    autotldr Bot , to worldnews in How gunfire and fear engulfed Gaza hospital before Israeli raid

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    On Tuesday, we revealed accusations from medical staff that they were detained, beaten and humiliated by IDF forces during the raid, prompting the UK government to call for answers from Israel.

    Footage shared online by a Nasser doctor shows the injured nurse being rushed into an operating theatre on foot and appear to start to lose consciousness as colleagues struggle to cut away his blood-soaked clothing.

    The chaos and confusion in Nasser escalated further on 13 February when a handcuffed man dressed in a white jumpsuit with a piece of yellow fabric tied around his head entered the complex with orders for people to leave.

    The BBC has verified footage of Dr Harara among a group of people who came under fire just over 2km from the hospital as they headed south from Khan Younis towards the southern city of Rafah on 15 February.

    During Israel’s takeover of the hospital, those who remained describe surviving on limited food and water, performing ablutions, or cleansing before prayers, using the fluid from medical drips and living in cramped and unsanitary conditions after being moved into a single building.

    The IDF has said its operations at Nasser were conducted in a “precise and focused manner, creating minimal damage to the hospital’s ongoing activity, and without harming the patients or the medical staff”.


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    Etterra , to worldnews in Paul Alexander, the polio survivor who spent over 70 years in an Iron Lung, has died at 78

    The worst part is that if you’re stuck in that situation and want to get out of it via suicide, you literally can’t. Now he’s finally free.

    jose1324 ,

    Didn’t he choose this? There are modern replacements for the iron lung, when he was still able enough to get out of it he could’ve switched I think.

    Shou ,

    He was able to leave the contraption for short periods of time. He was able to breathe on his own, but not well and would become fatigued quickly. He wasn’t as stuck as it seems.

    caveman , to worldnews in Paul Alexander, the polio survivor who spent over 70 years in an Iron Lung, has died at 78

    Wow, this guy should be some sort of hero!

    CanadaPlus , to worldnews in Paul Alexander, the polio survivor who spent over 70 years in an Iron Lung, has died at 78

    I feel like this guy alone undercuts the whole meritocracy narrative quite a bit. I know the defenders of that worldview would go “okay, but except for all the exceptions…”, but in a lot of ways it’s just a more extreme version of the stuff that puts people in normal poverty.

    Also, vaccinate your damn kids, everyone.

    YurkshireLad ,

    Send this story to every anti vaxxer and ask if this is what they want their kids to suffer this.

    CanadaPlus ,

    I have a wall right here if I need to bang my head against something. I don’t know, maybe somebody else reading has the gift of convincing irrational people of things, but I do not.

    I brought it up partly just to vent, and partly for any fence sitters that might be lurking and hadn’t made the connection.

    YurkshireLad ,

    I probably didn’t make it obvious, but I was talking in the general sense of “everyone should do this”. My bad…

    CanadaPlus ,

    Ah, okay. I’m still not sure if that would accomplish anything, though. They need deprogramming or something, not more yelling at.

    ItsAFake ,

    Have you ever tried screaming at clouds, much safer and sometimes the clouds will flip you off in return.

    CanadaPlus ,

    What if it’s completely clear?

    ItsAFake ,

    Well you’re fucked then I guess.

    Crikeste ,

    They’ve already decided they don’t care for the suffering of other people’s children, the step to not caring about their own isn’t a far one.

    CanadaPlus ,

    Most people are wired to care about people that are familiar to them, instinctively, so I actually think it is a big step. Antivaxxers, as far as I can tell, genuinely believe the conspiracy theories and snake oil salesmen.

    bartolomeo ,
    @bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

    undercuts the whole meritocracy narrative

    How do you mean?

    Sizzler ,

    A classic case of success against all the odds, to manage to become a lawyer at all is a challenge let alone when you live in an iron lung. It’s an argument for people saying that no matter who you are in society you can succeed and that (therefore) society isn’t racist/classiest etc.

    bartolomeo ,
    @bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

    Oooh, I see. Thanks.

    I was missing this part:

    and that (therefore) society isn’t racist/classiest etc.

    bartolomeo ,
    @bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

    Oooh, I see. Thanks.

    I was missing this part:

    and that (therefore) society isn’t racist/classiest etc.

    CanadaPlus , (edited )

    Yup. Through no fault of his own, the dude spent his entire life lying motionless. Where’s the merit in that story?

    It’s not really helpful on it’s own in a debate, because you’ll 100% get “okay, but normal people” back, and it takes way too long to unravel how there’s not actually a hard distinction between various degrees of disadvantage. You’re better off with a mini Gish gallop, since there’s no shortage of examples, and your opponent will be too embarrassed to say the African children were lazy directly.

    You could also use actual hard numbers if your talking to an audience savvy enough and with enough attention span to get that. That’s a rare audience, though.

    WarmSoda , to worldnews in Paul Alexander, the polio survivor who spent over 70 years in an Iron Lung, has died at 78

    Mr Alexander was a far stronger man than I could ever be. 70 years in an iron lung? I would be begging for release within a year or two max.

    CanadaPlus ,

    I’m guessing it’s a bit easier if you start as a kid. It’s just what life is like to some degree. Still, can you imagine how much FOMO you would have, literally confined to a barrel? Puberty must have been extra weird for him.

    ripcord ,
    @ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

    Agreed on it probably being easier if it’s something you’re used to and not actively in pain.

    Not everyone gets a lot of FOMO, so I could imagine that might also not be much, though.

    I mean, maybe you just mean frustration/sadness that he can’t do as much as other people, or to do specific things he wants to do. And I could imagine that could be just incredibly tough. Like all sorts of people with severe, debilitating conditions. But FOMO is kinda a different (more childish) thing than that.

    CanadaPlus ,

    Yeah, maybe that’s not the right word.

    Drusas ,

    Puberty must have been extra weird for him.

    He was paralyzed from the neck down. Puberty was probably mostly a squeaky voice and inconvenient growth spurt.

    CanadaPlus , (edited )

    I mean, to be direct about it, desire comes from the brain. The poor dude just didn’t have a body to then be horny with. Also, genitals operate on a slightly different circuit, so they often can remain functional even if voluntary things have been knocked out.

    massive_bereavement ,
    @massive_bereavement@kbin.social avatar

    It depends if you can fit in with a gamepad inside that puppy.

    Darkassassin07 ,
    @Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

    Paralyzed from the neck down.

    Not much use a controller will do him.

    Mastengwe ,

    Others said there’s video of him up and walking a few years back, so I think you might be wrong here.

    Darkassassin07 ,
    @Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

    Literally the very beginning of the linked article:

    Paul Alexander contracted polio in 1952 when he was six, leaving him paralysed from the neck down.

    The disease left him unable to breathe independently, leading doctors to place him in the metal cylinder, where he would spend the rest of his life.

    He later regained some very limited mobility, allowing him to leave the iron lung for very short periods; but I doubt that includes the fine motor control needed for a typical controller. You could possibly design something he could use to an extent, but it’s certainly not as easy as just toss him in there with an xbox controller.

    Kalothar ,

    He apparently did regain the ability to breathe a little bit and would leave the iron lung for short periods of time

    elbarto777 ,

    Imagine if you find out that normal humans could breathe underwater, and there 100 billion people living underwater. Us 8 billion people unable to live underwater are the “iron lung kids”.

    The all say “imagine not being able to ‘fly’ underwater, or not riding a gigantic squid - I would kill myself to end my misery!”

    What would you respond to that? I’d be like “eh, must be nice, but I’ve lived above water all my life. It makes no difference to me.”

    gladflag ,

    IDK. I reckon the 1:8B is a bit worse

    davel , to worldnews in Paul Alexander, the polio survivor who spent over 70 years in an Iron Lung, has died at 78
    @davel@lemmy.ml avatar

    Seldom mentioned in the media is that he died from COVID-19.

    otp ,

    Does anyone know if he has any pre-existing conditions?

    (This is a joke)

    Omega_Haxors ,

    Don’t make jokes about people dying, jackass.

    crawancon ,

    some people get through trauma with various flavors of emotive tools, including sarcasm and humor.

    tetris11 ,
    @tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

    yeah, if they have a mutual emotional connection to the deceased. I don’t think these two ever met.

    Omega_Haxors ,

    I hear that “Gallows humor” excuse every single time and it’s only ever used so assholes can feel good about being assholes. It’s basically the “Women like getting r–ed” excuse that incels use to justify their shitty behavior. Yes sometimes they say that, but it’s not a justification.

    You know full well nobody here was saying that to “get through hard times” you’re all safe on your computers punching down at dead people.

    Holzkohlen ,

    What are you the gallows humor police? Can I still joke about Hitler’s death or is that taboo now? I’m German so I have a Hitler given mandate to make fun of him and all the other nazis scum.

    Gerudo ,

    I’ve seen interviews with this guy. He had a surprisingly bright outlook on life. I think he would have found this funny.

    Randomgal ,

    Why? It’s not like they’re feelings are gonna hurt. Lol

    rimjob_rainer ,

    their

    WarmSoda ,

    Don’t do that shit. Go back to reddit if you can’t understand typos.

    smeenz ,

    It’s not a typo when its a correctly spelled, but incorrect word. A typo is where you mash keys or type them in the wrong order - a typographical error. Writing the wrong word entirely is an error.

    WarmSoda ,

    You’ve never had your phone auto correct into a different but similar weird before?

    rimjob_rainer ,

    I’m just pointing out a common mistake so the person has a chance to learn. That mistake is not a typo.

    Randomgal ,

    IDGAF tbh

    WarmSoda ,

    Get a life

    Palerider ,
    @Palerider@feddit.uk avatar

    Why?

    Darkassassin07 ,
    @Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar
    Noodle07 ,

    He was perfectly healthy, truly had lungs of iron

    Coach ,

    Ain’t that a bitch. One virus took his body. Another took his life.

    Both are preventable through safe, effective, and widely available vaccines. Vaccinate yourselves and your children, friends.

    Kbobabob ,

    The COVID vaccine doesn’t prevent you from getting COVID. It just mitigates the symptoms. You can still get it and spread it.

    ThirdWorldOrder ,

    Worth noting that being vaccinated makes it harder to spread

    Natanael ,

    If anybody wonders how, it’s because vaccination means the immune system reduces viral load, so you spread much less virus and thus others exposed have a better chance of avoiding infection.

    Coach ,

    And what do you think people die from? The symptoms, knucklehead.

    Kbobabob ,

    I’m aware of that but the comment I replied to says the virus is preventable. You really think I understand how the vaccine works but not what people die from or did you just need to make a degrading comment?

    smeenz , (edited )

    Wow, did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning ?

    Coach ,

    Just tired of the “well, actually…” comments that make no sense.

    Gabu ,

    In other words, it does exactly the same as any other vaccine…

    davel ,
    @davel@lemmy.ml avatar

    Currently COVID-19 is not preventable through vaccination on its own, especially not at the currently recommended once-per-year schedule, because they don’t last anywhere near that long.

    Land_Strider ,

    It is not preventable to get down with it, but the vaccines reduce its effects so much that even people with chronic breathing illnesses or organ transplants can handle it like a moderate flu. Mileage will vary from person to person, of course.

    Your direct point stands, but it is still a huge win for pro-vaccination.

    Natanael ,

    But the vaccine reduce the risk! That’s the most important part

    OurToothbrush ,

    Those are good but you also need to mask to prevent the spread of covid.

    autotldr Bot , to worldnews in Paul Alexander, the polio survivor who spent over 70 years in an Iron Lung, has died at 78

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The disease left him unable to breathe independently, leading doctors to place him in the metal cylinder, where he would spend the rest of his life.

    “Paul Alexander, ‘The Man in the Iron Lung’, passed away yesterday,” a post on a fundraising website said.

    His brother, Phillip Alexander, remembered him as a “welcoming, warm person”, with a “big smile” that instantly put people at ease.

    Phillip said he admired how self-sufficient his brother was, even as he dealt with an illness that stopped him performing daily tasks such as feeding himself.

    Paul’s health deteriorated in recent weeks and the brothers spent his final days together, sharing pints of ice cream.

    After years, Alexander eventually learned to breathe by himself so that he was able to leave the lung for short periods of time.


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