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merc , to nottheonion in Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

People want to see a conspiracy and a murder here, but it’s well known that being a whistleblower can be incredibly stressful. The US government says:

Practice self-care and stress-reducing activities throughout your whistleblowing process. It is common to experience toxic forms of retaliation – from professional isolation to gaslighting (manipulating someone by psychological means into questioning their own sanity) – which can lead to post-traumatic stress disorder, depression, or even thoughts of harm.

…house.gov/…/whistleblower_survival_tips.pdf

Research papers have shown the same thing:

About 85% suffered from severe to very severe anxiety, depression, interpersonal sensitivity and distrust, agoraphobia symptoms, and/or sleeping problems, and 48% reached clinical levels of these specific mental health problems. These specific mental health problems were much more prevalent than among the general population.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6604402/

I can’t remember where I saw it, but a while ago I saw or read an interview with a representative for a group that was famous for working with whistleblowers, something like the ACLU or EFF or something. Even though you’d expect that they’d really encourage whistleblowers, they said the opposite. They said that being a whistleblower is basically going to destroy your life. It’s going to ruin lifelong friendships. You’re going to be incredibly stressed. You’ll probably be blacklisted from your chosen field of employment even if your claims save lives and are proven to be true. So, they asked anybody who wanted to be a whistleblower to think about it and if they were absolutely sure to come back and talk to them again.

knfrmity , to nottheonion in Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

I’d bet a fully functioning and safe Boeing passenger plane (rare collectors item) that this was a hit.

Carighan , to nottheonion in Boeing whistleblower found dead in US
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I mean, I am fully behind how suspicious this looks, but also… fuck me, getting help as a whistleblower or anyone involved in major accidents due to lax safety standards in the maximisation of profits is a horrible process. It’s no wonder that people wash out, drop out, or end themselves. (in general, not in this particular case)

I mean if nothing else you live with guilt as you constantly ask yourself whether you could have done more or sooner to prevent a few hundred people being dead, you are blacklisted from the industry, and you get sued by the company so now you have to defend yourself in court despite not having a job. No wonder people end up depressed. Reminds me of that pilot who ditched a plane. Yeah they made mistaked, but OTOH the pilot himself once in the actual accident also displayed heroic efforts in saving people’s lives. Still, he never flew again. Haunts you I imagine. And it’s not like stricter standards and better safety margins wouldn’t have trivially avoided their crash long before the pilots had any input.

delirious_owl , to nottheonion in Boeing whistleblower found dead in US
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It said the 62-year-old had died from a “self-inflicted” wound on 9 March and police were investigating.

NegativeInf ,

Those quotes are doing a lot of interesting lifting.

RGB3x3 ,

Unlike Boeing planes right now.

littlebluespark ,
@littlebluespark@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, those plants are doing said lifting in unusually interesting ways, that’s the problem.

muad_dibber ,
@muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml avatar

The US has a habit of suiciding it’s whistleblowers (gary webb comes to mind). Failing that, it tortures them. Very free country, much democracy.

Aurenkin , to nottheonion in Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

Will no-one rid me of this troublesome whistleblower?

This is insanity. There needs to be a fully resourced investigation into this plus forced government takeover of Boeing if evidence is found of their involvement. This going unpunished would be so incredibly damaging to society not to mention a total perversion of justice.

Milk_Sheikh ,

Unfortunately Boeing genuinely has become “too big to fail” and we’re all going to suffer through this until it becomes untenable like Union Carbide/Exxon or it gets ignored and quietly resolved without address the core issue

  • Significant stock market presence in investment funds and retirement portfolios
  • Prime contractor for US and global civic and military aviation
  • Military angle cannot be ignored here, both for geopolitics, force readiness, and domestic politics, with production purposefully scattered across Senate & Congressional districts
  • Major ‘banner’ exporter of airframes globally, which in turn locks in lifecycle purchases and repeat business to the US vs foreign firms like Airbus/BAE/Rostec

Having it be privatized/hostile government takeover would be chaos not just administratively speaking, Boeing has achieved integration throughout the economy and political machinery

Nobody , to nottheonion in Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

After half a decade of trying to blow the whistle, he was finally making serious progress, as Boeing’s own planes keep falling apart because of the exact same shoddy practices Barnett has been trying to tell everyone about.

Then, he inexplicably “self-inflicts” a fatal wound just as his lawsuit starts getting serious traction. This dude was straight-up murdered, and we’re all going to act like that didn’t happen, even though it obviously did.

OpenStars ,
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It sure would be a shame if something were to… happen to him, capiche?

we’re all going to act like that didn’t happen

I feel the need to correct you in one matter: we (The People) are doing something about it! Why, Trump has been on the campaign trail for months now, saying how we should fix this very problem!

I am talking about allowing people to murder journalists and tattletales, ofc, what did you think I meant? We aren’t “America” if we don’t allow (checks notes) Freedom Murder of the Press, apparently. (Jon Stewart’s recent take on the matter)

Anticorp ,

I don’t think anyone is going to act like it didn’t happen except Boeing and the authorities.

Steve ,

Who is “We” ?

RedditWanderer , to nottheonion in Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

Apparent self-inflicted wound, found in his truck outside the hotel he was staying at while he was testifying.

resetbypeer ,
LinkOpensChest_wav , to nottheonion in Boeing whistleblower found dead in US
@LinkOpensChest_wav@midwest.social avatar

Being a whistle-blower must be depressing, always killing themselves like this. /s

arymandias ,

Also impressed with their aiming skills, two bullets in the back of the head every time.

Sibbo , to nottheonion in Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

Who would buy a plane from a gang that murders their best employees?

wise_pancake , to nottheonion in Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

Certainly sus.

TheOneWithTheHair , to nottheonion in Boeing whistleblower found dead in US
@TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world avatar
  • Boeing said it was saddened to hear of Mr Barnett’s passing.
  • It said the 62-year-old had died from a “self-inflicted” wound on 9 March and police were investigating.

hmmm…

SapphironZA , to news in US says UFO sightings likely secret military tests

A reminder that mach 3.5 jet aircraft were flying around in the mid 60s before we had computer chips.

That was 60 years ago now. and 60 years before that, the airplane had only been around a year or so.

We would not believe the prototype shit that is flying around today.

Num10ck ,

once you reach ‘unmanned’ craft, the capabilities can get silly. the pilot being able to function in the G forces used to be a major limiting factor. remote-control meant limiting capabilities to what a human could comprehend. now we’re well past that too.

TIMMAY ,

funny how maga never seems to bring that little idea up lmao “hey everyone look over here at my left hand” while the right hand rapes and plunders our democracy

Rentlar , to news in US says UFO sightings likely secret military tests

So tell me more aboot, (adjusts American mustache) -I mean about those secret military tests that were definitely not UFOs…

K3zi4 , to news in US says UFO sightings likely secret military tests

So they’ll be charging Grusch with perjury and lying to Congress then?

RaoulDook ,

Would be funny if they tried, considering all the stuff that he knows and that he is legally represented by the former Director of National Intelligence.

rutellthesinful ,

it's only perjury if you know that it's false

ki77erb , (edited ) to news in US says UFO sightings likely secret military tests

If an advanced civilization developed the technology for interstellar travel, and came all this way to earth, I suspect one of 2 things will happen. Either their tech is so advanced that we won’t even detect them, or they show up ready to communicate or destroy us.

I can’t see them clumsily flying around, getting seen and whooshing off like some dumb teenagers playing ding-dong-ditch.

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Unless they don’t give a fuck if we see them.

MyPornViewingAccount ,

Safaris dont give a shift if the animals in the wild see them

OtisRamflow ,

I would guess there are dumb alien teenagers as well.

Fester ,

Student driver

Dkarma ,

Ukraine doesn’t care if Russians see their drones. Why would aliens? If ufos are alien craft there’s zero chance there’s an alien in there.

Blahaj_Blast ,
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I could see the studying us like we study animals

NineMileTower ,

They travel thousands of light years just to pick up some ding dong and toss him back. I just picture a grey little alien dropping off a hillbilly after a solid butt probin’ with a finger over his mouth uttering, “Shhhh! No one will believe you.”

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

People travel to the other side of the planet to study ants.

NineMileTower ,

Good point. I now believe in aliens.

Cannibal_MoshpitV3 , (edited )

I can see humanity as being an entertaining sitcom or something to an advanced spacefaring race. O ho ho ho they are so divided and primitive!

Dkarma ,

I mean if you look at it like *observe and don’t interact" then it makes a lot of sense why the craft keep going into the ocean. It’s the best place on earth to hide and you can get anywhere on the planet that way.

WarmSoda ,

It amuses me that they get caught on VHS flying around clumsily, but no one’s ever seen anything out in space. How did they get into the atmosphere? Not one telescope on the planet can spot ships flying towards the planet

RaoulDook ,

Actually there have been numerous videos of unknown flying objects in space. Where did you get the idea that there were none?

bahbah23 ,

VHS is video.

WarmSoda ,

Other than Oummammua (or however it’s spelled) name one that even remotely resembles a ufo

RaoulDook ,

Well I certainly don’t know what their names are, but here is a video from NASA that shows a UFO in space.

youtu.be/0LS9z7n5iHU

WarmSoda ,

Lmao

z500 ,
@z500@startrek.website avatar

I can believe it when we can barely manage to spot an asteroid heading in our direction before it’s basically whizzing past us

WarmSoda ,

Do you mean the 34 thousand plus near earth objects that NASA monitors every day? Those “barely managed to spot”?

SchmidtGenetics ,

Uhh you realize they can’t catch EVERYTHING… yeah?

Since I know you’ll just claim otherwise

WarmSoda ,

Never said they track everything.
There’s no aliens buzzing around though.

SchmidtGenetics ,

You implied we could see everything with telescopes, we can’t even see everything with the tech nasa employs.

Maybe, maybe not, doesn’t change the fact that we’ve missed lots of stuff that’s hit or missed earth despite your asinine claim we don’t miss anything.

WarmSoda ,

I never said we don’t miss anything. How stupid are you? If all you want to do is nitpick bullshit go bother someone else.

SchmidtGenetics ,

You’re relying on the absence evidence to say something isn’t possible.

I provided proof that we don’t see everything, which is proof that it’s not impossible.

It may be nitpicking, but it’s the words you said. Don’t want to be corrected, don’t say incorrect shit dude lmfao.

circuitfarmer ,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.world avatar

Also: for a civilization advanced enough for interstellar travel to want to destroy us is unlikely. The universe is filled with resources. We pose no threat and don’t really have anything special.

Son_of_dad ,

I’m starting to think they’re inter dimensional, not extra terrestrial. Google what would a human in 4d look like to us, and it sounds just like the descriptions of angels in the Bible. Our brain just glitching out and seeing them as a mess of eyeballs and appendages. They can pop in and out of our reality, seemingly out of nowhere.

kromem ,

I don’t get why everyone was always assuming ‘alien’ vs “time travelers.”

The interest in Earth, general similarity to our own tech but more advanced, coupled with non-intervention makes a lot more sense under those conditions than aliens.

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