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stoly , to news in Jewish students sue Harvard over 'rampant' anti-semitism

I’ll reserve judgement until more information comes out, but this really strikes me as a group of lawyers and agitators latching on to the zeitgeist.

givesomefucks ,

Yeah, OPs summary says they’re doing it to multiple schools.

If their claims are true, then yeah, Harvard (and the other schools) should be held accountable.

But we’ll probably never know if a settlement happens.

stoly ,

That’s my assumption–it’s basically legal extortion.

I will say that I believe that there is antisemitism in most places because there are humans in most places. Whatever happens at Harvard is probably not exceptional or notable in any way.

Omegamanthethird ,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

Universities encourage critical thinking. For a lot of young adults, it’s the first time being exposed to a lot of new ideas in their infancy. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was higher simply because they are processing new concepts and sometimes come to unfortunate conclusions.

admiralteal ,

And it doesn't help that, as of late, the term "antisemite" is aggressively being expanded to include those who show any criticism whatsoever of the current Bibi administration.

It's crazy to me. On October 6th, 2023, the Bibi administration was largely viewed as a far right, antidemocratic, religiously extreme collection of intensely corrupt lunatics. On October 7th, so many otherwise totally-reasonable people just forgot how they felt the day before.

themeatbridge ,

That’s how people respond to terrorist attacks. Look at what America did after 9/11, rallying behind Giuliani and Bush to attack Iraq because… Then you had bigots attacking Sikhs on the streets, Freedom Fries because France opposed indiscriminate bombing, and just about the most ridiculous performative security measures for people wanting to travel in a plane.

History will remember. We will look back on this time as a dark period of bigotry, violence, oppression, and genocide.

stoly ,

It’s true. And we didn’t fix anything, we just made travel so much more miserable and put in laws to let the government spy on people. As we saw with both 9/11 and Oct 6, high surveillance isn’t the answer. We need to move beyond security theater and retribution.

themeatbridge ,

I forgot about the spying! That’s another good example, further emphasized by the fact that I forgot about it entirely.

stoly ,

It took 20 years for the GOP to realize that the PATRIOT Act was used mostly against them and not brown people lol.

spider ,

Freedom Fries because France opposed indiscriminate bombing

Speaking of which, he was apparently a slow learner.

thisorthatorwhatever ,

Your last paragraph can describe almost any time period in human history.

stoly ,

I have also found that some people become very angry when you point out that Palestinians and Arabs in general are actually Semites. There were actually a whole lot of Semitic groups in history.

gedaliyah ,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

Antisemitism has nothing to do with whether or not someone is of an ethnicity related to the Semitic language group. My guess would be that you are upsetting people not by pointing out that Palestinians are Semites, but by incorrectly claiming that antisemitism is in any way connected to the - very real - discrimination against and hatred of Palestinians and Arabs.

ArtieShaw ,
@ArtieShaw@kbin.social avatar

Thank you.

I don't have the patience or tact to offer thoughtful and gentle explanations (as you did) when it's "pointed out" that many people from the region could be considered Semitic.

It's very much the sort of argument my clever nephew might make. He's a smart kid, but he hasn't gotten to the point where he can understand that a clever fact is not necessarily in any way relevant to a complex problem. And certainly not a devastating argument that can simply stop everyone in their mad mutual desire for destruction.

"Well, shit. We were all Semites the whole time????"

In any case, thanks.

chitak166 ,

to include those who show any criticism whatsoever of the current Bibi administration.

I’m not sure why you’re specifically mentioning one man’s administration.

The main conflation of anti-Semitism has been with anti-Zionism, which dates back far before Bibi came into power.

stoly ,

Critical thinking doesn’t make people racist, though. I work at a university and have seen many people be edgy. Some do it for effect because they are, frankly, very immature and like that attention. Most who are actually racist were brought up that way or went down the rabbit hole sometime in high school.

admiralteal ,

Not to mention that Harvard will likely settle just to avoid going through discovery simply because they know there is an entire political movement looking for ANY excuse to go for blood with them.

SeaJ ,

They do not really give any details at all about the claims so it is kind of hard to have any sort of opinion on it.

gedaliyah ,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

The entire complaint is linked in the third paragraph. It goes into some detail about specific incidents of harassment of Jewish students and some of the ways that the university is systemically hostile to Jewish students, particularly those who express support for Israel, which, “is a crucial component of Kestenbaum’s and SAA members’ Jewish identities, and many of them are descendants of survivors of the Nazis, with family and friends in Israel.”

lolcatnip ,

It’s really quite sad that the Israel simps have abused the idea of antisemitism to the point that when I see accusations of antisemitism, I genuinely have no idea if they’re taking about serious bigotry or if they’re talking about people saying it’s bad to murder civilians.

Altofaltception ,

The picture that the BBC included in the article seems like it may be the latter.

gedaliyah ,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

No need to speculate; the allegations are linked in the article:

Harvard students and faculty harass, discriminate, and assault Jewish students—including on October 18, when a mob of protesters attacked a Jewish student, and the next day, when a mob trapped a group of Jewish students in a study room

Subjected to intense anti-Jewish vitriol, including from their own professors and Harvard administrators, Kestenbaum and other Jewish students, including SAA members, have been deprived of the ability and opportunity to fully participate in Harvard’s educational and other programs and have been placed at severe emotional and physical risk.

Moreover, over the past ten years, Harvard has instituted admissions policies that have severely reduced—by as much as sixty percent—the number of Jewish students, an enormous decline that evinces an intentional effort, much like Harvard’s quotas one hundred years ago, to exclude Jews.

qdJzXuisAndVQb2 ,

Surely a drop in Jewish students would be a normalization of their previously tremendous over-representation in the Ivy league?

stevehobbes ,

Now this is definitely antisemitism.

lennybird ,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

That’s still speculative; for it’s merely one side making allegations without demonstrating substantive evidence in front of a court.

chitak166 ,

when a mob of protesters attacked a Jewish student, and the next day, when a mob trapped a group of Jewish students in a study room

The important part here seems to be left out: did Harvard punish the students responsible for this? I find it hard to believe that they got away with this if they actually did it and we know who they are.

ferralcat ,

He showed up at a pro Palestinian protest to try and dox the students there. They asked him to leave. He ignored them and was then escorted out. People did not say nice things to him.

I’m not sure there was a lot to punish.

ferralcat ,

I start d (slowly) reading this and… Is this how legal briefs are written? It seems like a reddit blog post. For instance in the examples section they write “SJp … is one of the most vitriolic antisemitic networks on college campuses. SJP was founded by the chairman of American Muslims for Palestine (“AMP”), the leadership of which overlaps with the leadership of organizations that have been shut down by federal authorities, whose assets were frozen by the U.S. Treasury Department, or that were found liable in civil actions for providing material support to Hamas. SJP receives funding and training from AMP as well as from universities. SJP and its affiliates sponsor antisemitic events, host antisemitic speakers…” All of which I’m reading expecting a citation somewhere… Anywhere. It seems like easily verifiable stuff. But there is none. Is this how legal briefs are written?

Cocodapuf ,

Being anti Israel is just not the same as being antisemitic. I’m not sure why that is such a hard thing for people to understand. Israel and Judaism are different things.

goferking0 ,

It’s because it makes it so much harder to be critical of Isreal if they can continue having anything labeled as antisemitic.

Sumpfkraut ,

With the information about the organzied harassment campaign that is openly available, I feel confident in judging that group as agitators and lawyers that terrorize human rights advocates.

m13 , to news in Jewish students sue Harvard over 'rampant' anti-semitism

This is absolutely gross and dangerous behaviour if this is what it sounds like: calling protests against genocide and Zionism as somehow “antisemitic”.

There are real antisemites to be fought against: actual Nazis, MAGA assholes, Casa Pound, Proud Boys, etc.

Anti-Zionists are not antisemites.

The same anti-fascists who are fighting against all these true antisemites are also the same people who are fighting against the genocidal ideology of Zionism.

Zionism is just another fascist ideology. It depends on apartheid, settler colonialism, and ethnic cleansing in order to build an ethnostate.

It’s absolutely disgusting of Zionists to pull out the “antisemitism” card when Israel and Zionism are being called out. They’re intentionally trying to muddy the water and it puts innocent people in danger.

Wizard_Pope ,
@Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world avatar

But they have always done it and it seems to work.

Jaderick , to news in Jewish students sue Harvard over 'rampant' anti-semitism

What constitutes “the destruction of Israel”?

Nuking Israel because it’s primarily Jewish? Yes fuck that, that’s anti-semitism.

Israel as a purely Jewish ethnostate? Fuck that too, non-Jews live there and everyone is human. Netanyahu’s comments on “Israel solely for Jews” is fucking stupid and he clearly learned nothing from the 20th century German attempt at an ethnostate.

Altofaltception , (edited )

Well the argument goes that Saudi Arabia exists as a Muslim ethnostate, so why can’t Israel exist for the same reason.

Edit: not my argument.

Omegamanthethird ,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

Is anyone arguing that Saudi Arabia should be?

Altofaltception ,

Yes, Israelis.

Omegamanthethird ,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

Well, at least they’re consistent.

eskimofry ,

They’re only consistent for their own benefit.

Ralph Waldo Emerson:

" A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines."

His point was that only small-minded men refused to rethink their prior beliefs.

admiralteal ,

Saudi Arabia should not be allowed to exist as a Muslim ethnostate, though. Their human rights abuses against those that aren't part of their specific ethnicity and religious sect are pure evil.

"They get to do evil, so I should too" is a very bad argument that is not made by people who aren't evil.

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

Saudi Arabia isn't a Muslim ethnostate. It's a state whose citizens happen to be almost 100% Muslim because this is Saudi Arabia of course they are. This isn't defense of their treatment of slaves foreign workers or anything of the sort, that's just pure evil.

Omegamanthethird ,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

It’s unfortunate that entities such as the ADL have intentionally (and openly) blurred the line between antisemitism and criticism of Israel, and the news just regurgitates whatever they tell them.

Is antisemitism up? Yes.

Is it particularly bad at universities? Probably.

Is it up by 5000000%? (I don’t know the actual number, but the ADL likes to throw a big % out there.) No.

gedaliyah ,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

26% of Israelis are not Jewish, and all citizens are legally entitled to the same rights.

charonn0 ,
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all citizens are legally entitled to the same rights

It’s worth pointing out that, in general and throughout history, citizenship is something that separates the privileged from the unprivileged. The in-group from the outsider. The masters and the slaves.

Touting the rights of citizens, therefore, does not necessarily rebut the parent comment’s criticism.

gedaliyah ,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

Not sure what you mean. Are there countries that guarantee equal rights to non-citizens?

charonn0 ,
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No. And that’s quite my point.

gedaliyah ,
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  • charonn0 ,
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    OK.

    NoneOfUrBusiness ,

    No they're not. Jewish Israelis have Jewish ancestry, which entitles them to more rights, and Palestinians are explicitly signaled as exceptions to a number of laws (see: Palestinian spouses of Israeli citizens can't be naturalized).

    Ostrichgrif , to news in Jewish students sue Harvard over 'rampant' anti-semitism

    “It comes just over a week after its president, Claudine Gay, resigned in part over her handling of antisemitism.”

    Is this just blatant misinformation or am I out of the loop? I was under the impression that she resigned over plagiarism while some people online criticized her for “antisemitism”. I haven’t read anything about antisemitism being a primary cause from any publication but this one.

    Sami_Uso ,

    As with anything you read about Israel, the facts are always distorted just slightly enough to completely change the message without flat out lying. It’s not just you, there’s a major funk around any Israel based news stories coming out of the mainstream media.

    machinin , to news in Jewish students sue Harvard over 'rampant' anti-semitism

    This reminds me of this older video:

    youtu.be/FtpgGxeCGpM

    Lightrider , to news in Jewish students sue Harvard over 'rampant' anti-semitism

    Defeat genocidejoe

    capital ,

    Who are you voting for?

    bigMouthCommie ,
    @bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

    right now it would be Cornel West but Jill Stein can win me back

    tygerprints , to news in Jewish students sue Harvard over 'rampant' anti-semitism

    I'm getting damn sick of Jews saying that Harvard is anti-semitic and trying to disguise their own sick bigotry as some sort of "god given" mantra. They drove a black president out because of her being black and they claim to be "good people?????" Jews are sacks of manure. The more I learn of this abhorrent harrassment by them, the more I hate them with every single fiber of my being and the more I am determined to hate and hurt them however and whenever I can.

    mhague ,

    You were always a sack of shit, don’t pretend it’s because other people did something.

    PugJesus ,
    @PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

    They're a troll who always takes the edgiest position possible. Ignore them.

    tygerprints ,

    You as well mhjague, as we know from your past. You as well. I know the things you have done, so this is like the pot calling the kettle "black." Only in this case, the pot is made of pure seething maggotty cow dung.

    sanpedropeddler ,

    That last sentence convinced me this is satirical. I really hope I’m right

    Sumpfkraut ,

    At first I thought you're trying to simply mock the position, then I reread the other comment and withdrew my upvote.

    It's not only the last sentence that is terrible - it's the last two. And sadly I don't think this is satirical.

    snooggums ,
    @snooggums@kbin.social avatar

    You are wrong. That poster is either the worst person ever or a terrible attempt at trolling by actually being the worse person ever.

    The only reason I haven't blocked them is that the responses calling them out remind me that most people aren't complete assholes.

    NoIWontPickaName ,

    Nah @tygerprints is a racist piece of shit and better off ignored usually.

    I think they and @downpunxx are the same person using different accounts to fuck with people.

    Omegamanthethird ,
    @Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

    Not all Jews are pro-Israel, pro-genocide, pro-harassment, etc (take your pick). This cuts both ways. Anyone saying that criticizing Israel is antisemitic is equating the two and being antisemitic themselves. That means you, Israel, ADL, etc, whoever.

    magnetosphere , to news in Jewish students sue Harvard over 'rampant' anti-semitism
    @magnetosphere@kbin.social avatar

    Without having seen the specific kind of “hatred and harassment” they’re talking about, I can’t form a valid opinion. I wonder, though, if people are interpreting fair criticism of the Israeli government as “antisemitism”. Fair criticism and antisemitism are two very different things, but I often see them confused.

    Similarly, I wonder if people are trying to disguise hateful antisemitism as “fair criticism” when there’s nothing fair or reasonable about it.

    As always, it will be difficult to protect freedom of speech while preventing and punishing hate speech.

    IchNichtenLichten , to news in Jewish students sue Harvard over 'rampant' anti-semitism
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    If you cry antisemitism wolf enough times, sooner or later people will stop believing you.

    dogslayeggs , to news in Jewish students sue Harvard over 'rampant' anti-semitism

    “selectively enforces its policies to avoid protecting Jewish students from harassment, hires professors who support anti-Jewish violence and spread antisemitic propaganda, and ignores Jewish students’ pleas for protection”

    The problem with this statement is it is completely subjective and not at all objective. The first one is reasonable if Jewish students are being verbally harassed walking through campus with complaints being ignored. That might very well be happening. However, the other ones sound a whole lot like, “you hired professors who don’t 100% support Israel no matter what the country does.” One person’s “spread antisemitic propaganda” is another person’s “shared a story from a reputable news source that didn’t show 100% support for Israel.”

    mathemachristian , to news in Israel's plan to "destroy" Gaza comes from "the highest level of state", the UN's top court has heard

    Maybe from the guy that said “remember what Amalek has done to you”?

    autotldr Bot , to news in Israel's plan to "destroy" Gaza comes from "the highest level of state", the UN's top court has heard

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    Click here to see the summary“Every day there is mounting, irreparable loss of life, property, dignity and humanity for the Palestinian people,” Adila Hassim, also representing South Africa, told the court. In its evidence submitted before the hearing, South Africa said Israel’s actions were “intended to bring about the destruction of a substantial part of the Palestinian national, racial and ethnical group”. On Thursday, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said “the hypocrisy of South Africa screams to the heavens” - criticising the country for failing to respond to atrocities in Syria and Yemen committed by “partners of Hamas”. It was in contrast to the formality inside the court, where the Israeli delegation is listening to South Africa’s lawyers accuse the country’s forces of committing genocide in Gaza. It sees parallels with its struggle against apartheid - a policy of racial segregation and discrimination enforced by the white-minority government in South Africa against the country’s black majority, until the first democratic elections, in 1994. In Gaza, more than 23,350 people - mostly women and children - have been killed, according to the Hamas-run health ministry, since the war began in the aftermath of Hamas’s 7 October attacks on southern Israel. — Saved 77% of original text.

    WHYAREWEALLCAPS , to technology in Where will all the electric cars be charged?

    This is the same problem ICE cars faced when they were rolled out. It isn't like there was a gas station on every corner when the Model T rolled out. As more and more EVs hit the road, charging availability will increase until we reach a point where chargers are ubiquitous. It may reach the point where every parking space has a charger.

    This is a transitional issue that will resolve itself.

    Riven ,

    That’s what I always tell people too, I’m just meaner about it. I also tell them to go back to horses.

    athos77 ,

    But where will my horses find water to drink and hay to eat when we go to town?!?

    ExLisper ,

    He will have to get used to eating bugs like the rest of us.

    r00ty Admin ,
    r00ty avatar

    Except it's not the same, yet. Currently in the space you can have a fuel station cars can refuel in 5 minutes to full and be on their way making that pump available.

    EVs need at least 30 minutes with the fastest charger to get from say 20 to 60 right? In either case they take up the bay. So you need to be able to handle many more at once.

    If all bays are fast charge, that's a lot of power infrastructure required.

    Now, all isn't lost. There's more ways to charge an EV. For example people can mostly charge at home, there could be ways to charge on the move (I don't wonder what kind of drag would be applied charging with induction) and then, yes charging points which we'd hope are used less often.

    But the issue is the promises of X things done by Y year. Since there's just not been enough work done until now.

    roscoe ,

    The footprints of chargers and gas stations aren’t the same though. A lot of places I go have a row of 8-10 spots with chargers. No added footprint really, just installed at the front of the spot. Compare that to an 8-10 pump gas station, even without a convenience store. If you removed a gas station and replaced it with rows of spaces with chargers I think you’d get more cars through over a given period of time.

    jenny_ball ,
    @jenny_ball@lemmy.world avatar

    those fast chargers require huge infrastructure to scale out. 480v service.

    Yaztromo ,

    EVs need at least 30 minutes with the fastest charger to get from say 20 to 60 right? In either case they take up the bay. So you need to be able to handle many more at once.

    No. The Hyundai IONIQ 5 and 6 (and likely 7) only need 18 minutes to go from 10% to 80%.

    ExLisper ,

    But I can charge my EV at home so I only use public chargers like once every couple months instead of refilling exclusively at the gas stations. I also see a lot of people paying small amounts at the gas station (like 10-20 euros) so I’m guessing they visit them once per week. I have no idea how this impacts the overall occupancy rate but my guess is that a lot of city cars will not use public chargers at all so it’s not like we’re moving all cars for gas stations to charging stations.

    r00ty Admin ,
    r00ty avatar

    It's what I covered later in that message. That we'll need some mix of home charging, fast charging but ultimately if we can get some kind of charging on trunk roads at least, it could just make EVs better than fuel driven cars.

    BastingChemina ,

    It is also way easier to install a charging station than a gas station.

    Electricity is already available everywhere.

    Landmammals ,

    Installing wires is too difficult. Let’s just continue doing it the easy way, pumping liquid dinosaurs out of the ground and transporting flammable liquid thousands of miles.

    Chriswild ,

    Gasoline has about a 6 month self life and has to be refined from crude oil at specific facilities that polute the surrounding area.

    The supply chain to support gasoline is completely insane compared to plugging you car in at home 90% of the time. Once the wiring is updated to support EVs it’s basically done, no more logistics expense but gas is expensive always.

    Landmammals ,

    Yeah that’s the point. Saying it’s too hard to upgrade wiring is madness.

    Chriswild ,

    My apologies I was meaning to share frustration because I agree with you not come off as an argument. I hope you don’t feel as if I was saying you were wrong.

    It’s also madness because we did this before at least in the US with air conditioning going main stream on a grid designed to support lights only.

    Landmammals ,

    No it’s okay. I was just clarifying that we were agreeing with each other

    WetBeardHairs , to worldnews in Boeing 737 Max 9: United Airlines finds loose bolts during inspections

    After looking at that diagram I have to ask - why in the everliving fuck would a pressure bearing panel like that be hung by bolts and not inserted into the cabin and held in place by the ribs of the fuselage? I mean seriously?

    EeeDawg101 ,

    I don’t get why they don’t just make it a bit bigger on the inside so that when pressurized, the pressure itself seals it. Seems like a fail safe solution instead of this shadiness.

    MigratingApe ,

    But mah profits!

    737 Max is still a developing example of what happens when you leave corporate to self-regulate themselves.

    Tangentism ,

    It’s a well documented that when Boeing merged with McDonald Douglas, they turned from an engineering led company to an executive led one & have been shit since

    archive.is/vy5p7

    Starfighter , (edited )

    It is, kind of. The plug is secured by 6 stops (or tabs) along each side. The positive pressure differential pushes the plug outwards into those stops.

    To remove the plug you uninstall 4 bolts which allow the plug to go up and over the stops, after which it can hinge outwards on a hinge found at the bottom of the plug.

    Source: https://youtu.be/WhfK9jlZK1o?si=dbUV1i2nNFcNixQh

    EeeDawg101 ,

    Just seems like a better design would be if no bolts existed (like from them loosening over time and falling off), it would still be sealed perfectly fine. The obvious failure point is the bolts and seems they could do better.

    AMDIsOurLord ,

    I think it’s to save space. See: DC-10 Cargo Door fiasco

    derf82 ,

    It does. It is still a plug-type door. It pushes against 12 stop pads. This design has been used for many years, including on the 737-900 that predated the Max9. You can see the exit plug in this photo form 2007, before the Max was even a thing. Also, cargo doors have worked the same way for many more years than that.

    They do it so that the door does not have to swing the whole way inside to fit out.

    cobra89 ,

    That’s how the normal doors work because they aren’t permanently secured in place. The reason is weight as it pretty much always is in aviation design.

    GombeenSysadmin ,

    It’s a door plug, which means it’s meant to be replaced with an actual door if required, so a lot of the hardware for an actual door are in place. Doors are designed to slide in, then raise up so the stop pins engage the stop fittings from the inside, so the door is in effect bigger than the hole it’s in. this video provides a detailed explanation of how it works.

    The big issue here is that the airplane is only 2 months old, it was delivered from Boeing in late October. Which means it’s either a design flaw or a process flaw in the original manufacturing. This smacks of corporate cost cutting again. Boeing are totally on the hook for this and it’s only lucky there were no lives lost. You watch, they’ll blame it on the airline initially but the fault will come back round to them again.

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