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CoffeeJunkie , to worldnews in Pope Francis says sexual pleasure is 'a gift from God'
Zehzin , to worldnews in Pope Francis says sexual pleasure is 'a gift from God'
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I don’t know why the headline made me Imagine the Pope getting really excited and calling all his homies in cause he found out what sex is

Agent641 ,

“Brothers, look, we had it wrong this whole time. It says ‘Celebrate’!”

superbirra , to worldnews in Pope Francis says sexual pleasure is 'a gift from God'

UNLESS…

Showroom7561 , to worldnews in Pope Francis says sexual pleasure is 'a gift from God'

Stop trying to justify molesting children.

Nobilmantis ,
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Bro out of all the people of the churches in the world, I really think pope Francis is the last person to bring this point on…

Showroom7561 ,

Yeah, a real leader among leaders.

The Catholic Church has protected pedophiles among their ranks for as long as the Catholic Church has been around.

They’ve thrown a few under the bus after overwhelming evidence has been filed against them, but that doesn’t change much.

Nobilmantis ,
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The Catholic Church has protected pedophiles among their ranks for as long as the Catholic Church has been around.

It is documented and undeniable that there have been such figures in the church, but it is my opinion that this specific pope has been trying to bring the church in a different direction, both on this specific issue, but also generally more progressive, if you want.

Yeah, a real leader among leaders.

Thanks for sharing this article, I’ve read it and tried to do more reaserch on the topic (turns out the wikipedia page on the matter is pretty dense and source-full, while the NYT wrote just has a couple lines written quickly). I will answer with this article from the guardian

Showroom7561 ,

“Despite recent measures to root out abuse by priests and increase transparency, some victims say the Vatican still has not gone far enough to protect children even in the West, where intense media coverage of paedophile priests has led to greater scrutiny of church practices.”

Francis has been in power for over a decade now, and that quote (from your link) was written years ago. Nothing has really changed.

paddirn , to worldnews in Pope Francis says sexual pleasure is 'a gift from God'

Pretty sure sexual pleasure is the result of friction, nerve endings, a bunch of neuro-chemicals, and a whole lot of fetishes. If anyone is letting us enjoy sexual pleasure, it’s the other department.

211 ,

Friction. 🤮 No. NO.

unreachable ,
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paddirn ,

Lubricated friction is still friction, but hey, whatever floats your boat I guess.

SketchySeaBeast ,
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Sounds like they are into whatever soaks their boat.

pixeltree ,

I mean, you want low friction, not no friction

rynzcycle ,

Psh, my fetish is thrusting into an empty vacuum.

ivanafterall ,
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When there's nothing there, you can pretend it's absolutely anything.

pixeltree ,

Maybe that’s why I got so many boners during physics

sik0fewl ,

Haven’t you heard the phrase “there were sparks between them”?

TrickDacy ,

Hate to break it to you, but friction is literally what causes most of the sensation to be felt. Too much friction seems to be what you’re thinking of

211 ,

Under half of women orgasm from penetration alone, and for about one in ten it’s outright painful. For me it does pretty much nothing. I guess we could move to whether air and vibrations on clit count as friction, but I’m pretty sure that’s not what anyone had in mind. Nor whether kisses and general intimate closeness count as “sexual pleasure”.

TheRealKuni ,

I guess we could move to whether air and vibrations on clit count as friction, but I’m pretty sure that’s not what anyone had in mind.

At the risk of mansplaining, I suspect that actually was what they had in mind, though not exclusively. Friction doesn’t inherently mean PIV. Clitoral stimulation is still down to (the proper amount and application of) friction and (fuckloads of) nerve endings to sense it.

But more importantly, I also think that’s an overly simplistic way of seeing sexual gratification. Sex with a partner is sometimes less directly pleasurable, since the owner of the equipment often (though not always, thanks repression) knows best how to make it feel good, but sex with a partner is still usually better because of the intimacy that comes into play. And sex with a long-term partner can be exceptionally good, because you learn better and better what the other person needs.

(Obviously everyone is different though, and there are always going to be individuals with different experiences and preferences. The world is full of spectrums, not well-defined lines.)

Sgt_choke_n_stroke , to worldnews in Pope Francis says sexual pleasure is 'a gift from God'

Or is it the result of years of evolution to increase reproduction?

poplargrove ,

Theistic evolution believers: why not both

jol ,

I guess we’re all God’s pets children and He wants us to keep reproducing. Evolution is compatible with believing in God. Now why He put my g spot inaide my ass can only be proof of His immense sense of humour.

PolandIsAStateOfMind , to worldnews in Pope Francis says sexual pleasure is 'a gift from God'
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That would be doctrinal breaktrough, but the long strings of popes saying whatever they find convenient at the moment tuned the formal requirements for pope to be infallible pretty high. And i won’t even mention that whatever cool thing Francis ever said as a pope have exactly zero influence on church reality.

TrickDacy ,

That would be doctrinal breaktrough

No it wouldn’t. This is a standard way of talking about marriage in oppressive religions, including Catholicism

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
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So by “relationships” he just meant “marriage” as church always did? It’s clear from the context he is not, since lower there is mentions of “same-sex relationships”, not to mention even the word itself suggest any something wider.

TrickDacy ,

I think he’s intentionally vague when using the word relationships. The word does not explicitly mean any one thing. But yeah sex within marriage has always been praised in Christianity. It’s been a big selling point of marriage in general. I don’t see anything in the article to suggest he’s explicitly blessed homosexual sex or truly changed any doctrine.

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
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Yeah, if that was taken on a face value then the acceptance of all kinds of extramarital relationships would be a big doctrinal change, but nothing is happening, as i noted in my first post.

autotldr Bot , to world in Namibia criticises German support for Israel over ICJ genocide case - BBC News

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Namibia has condemned former colonial ruler Germany for rejecting a case at the UN’s top court accusing Israel of committing genocide in Gaza.

Germany has offered to intervene on Israel’s behalf in the case brought by South Africa at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in The Hague.

The UN and humanitarian organisations have warned of the risk of famine in Gaza as well as the spread of disease among displaced people and have urged that more aid be allowed into the territory.

The scale of the Israeli response prompted South Africa to ask the ICJ to consider whether Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinians in Gaza.

Pretoria’s case included a litany of alleged Israeli offences, from the indiscriminate killing of Palestinian civilians to the wholesale destruction of Gaza’s infrastructure.

Israel has strongly rejected the allegation, calling it “baseless” and its legal team was scathing about South Africa’s submission, arguing that if anyone was guilty of genocide, it was Hamas.


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itslilith ,
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arguing that if anyone was guilty of genocide, it was Hamas.

they are really down to kindergarten arguments, huh? “I know you are, but what am I?”

65gmexl3 , to worldnews in Pope Francis says sexual pleasure is 'a gift from God'
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IIRC Song of songs is all about s3x or the pleasure of it. I struggled when i first read it back when i was still one of them.

SaltySalamander ,
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s3x

So juvenile...

carl_dungeon , to worldnews in Pope Francis says sexual pleasure is 'a gift from God'

“So are little boys!” — the clergy

BruceTwarzen , to worldnews in Pope Francis says sexual pleasure is 'a gift from God'

That doesn't mean you can diddle kids you weirdo

TrickDacy ,

Ah yes that’s obviously what he said

Chainweasel , to worldnews in Pope Francis says sexual pleasure is 'a gift from God'

I wonder if the choir boys feel the same way

Amro , to worldnews in Pope Francis says sexual pleasure is 'a gift from God'
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@zephyreks Yeah, right. Claim it for God when I work so hard for it!

autotldr Bot , to worldnews in Pope Francis says sexual pleasure is 'a gift from God'

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Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernández, who was appointed last July, came under fire for a book he wrote and published in the late 1990s entitled Mystical Passion: Spirituality and Sensuality.

The Pope had already tackled the vice of gluttony last week and there was no suggestion that his sermon on lust during Wednesday’s general audience was related to criticism of the cardinal.

In December, Cardinal Fernández introduced a text, later approved by Pope Francis, detailing guidelines allowing priests to bless same-sex couples relationships that were still considered sinful.

In a lengthy response posted online, Cardinal Müller said that a priest blessing a homosexual union would be committing a “sacrilegious and blasphemous act”.

Prelates around the world also released statements condemning the decision, including American conservatives, who have long been vocal in opposing the Pope’s plans for reforming the Catholic Church.

Tensions reached a nadir when the Pope evicted outspoken critic US Cardinal Raymond Burke from his Vatican apartment and revoked his salary.


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