My dude… If you want to contribute, by all means, show us where there is a problem, other than in your imagination, and it will be seriously considered.
I had no idea we were doing condescending pet names, this is a fun game. My sweet summer child…
The defaults of this script encourage single-user instances admins to bump their sub count ~70x from something like 100 communities to something more like 7000 communities.
Users of this script actually literally don’t understand how federation works. They think they’re proxying through to the upstream instance while they browse rather than getting firehosed with the entire lemmyverse by they’re asleep.
It doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to figure out that global federation worker queues are not in great shape, or that a default that encourages single-user instance owners who have no idea what they’re doing to bump their sub count 70x isn’t helping the situation. If you think this is in my head I can’t help you. But I can help others understand that running this script with default settings is an awful and unnecessary idea.
no you need a domain - if you already have one you can use a subdomain, e.g. lemmy.mydomain.com - then you deploy a server, point the (sub)domain to it, then install and configure lemmy. Then, if you’re so inclined, you can create communities on that instance that federated systems can participate in. The content is hosted on your instance but the subscribers are logging in mostly though other instances.
well, I’d venture that most people in this sub are running locally, which is quite doable. But even on a cloud instance there isn’t a lot of compute involved. The instances listed here for under USD 20/year would be fine: lowendtalk.com/…/from-14-95-yr-openvz-7-2-ipv4-so…
I have Mastodon running on a VPS running Debian 11. Now I would like to add a Lemmy instance on the same server. I tried using the from scratch method from Lemmy documentation, but ran into errors that likely stemmed from minor version incompatibilities of the dependencies. I tried using the Lemmy easy deploy script but it wants...
Nope don't feel bad - it's totally understandable. Kbin is new, so the documentation is lacking.
Almost all content on Kbin, including users, has a follow / subscribe button in the sidebar beneath the magazine or user description. There's also a block button. These buttons can be used on almost all Kbin content, so it's very powerful - after spending about a week adding subs, my Kbin feed is far more active than Reddit was, even at its height.
Kbin breaks down your content into Magazines, Microblogs, and Threads. Magazines are synonymous with Communities on Lemmy, or subreddits on reddit. Microblogs are where the Mastodon Toots go, and how you interact with instances based on that architecture. Threads are just like posts on reddit, and can be text only, a link, a pic, or a video (although it seems video is still under development).
The best place to start getting subscriptions are in the magazines section:
...which lists all of the currently federated communities. Putting a domain search into the search bar will bring up all magazines in the instance on that domain:
This domain searching is extremely powerful, especially when you use the domain section (which can be hard to find) - you can get a breakdown of any domain currently federated on kbin by using the following link:
...where you'd put the domain you're interested in in place of 'lemmy.world'. You can then subscribe to the entire instance through that feed, or block it f you'd like. This also works for standard domains as well:
Besides lemmygrad and explodingheads which are truly legitimate cases, defederation just hurts everyone. New users just expect to sub to the communities they like on reddit. That includes NSFW because that simply is something people want, and it never was an issue on reddit. The whole discussion on larger lemmy is childish and prude.
And about the developers, lemmygrad is largely isolated, but lemmy.ml is not and those same tankies run that. In fact its also the only lemmy instance that blocks all kbin instances via blocking the kbin user-agent. The development is also still largely steered by those tankies.
The NSFW stuff was/is a bit more complicated than it might appear on the surface. A lot of instances do not allow NSFW. No judgement, it is what it is. But people on those instances could sub to NSFW communities elsewhere, primarily LemmyNSFW. Less so now, but for a while it was common for those posts/communities to not be tagged NSFW, which caused them to show up on All for people that didn’t want to see it.
Then there was the question about types of NSFW content. Even people that enjoy your standard porn categories had lines they didn’t want crossed in their feed. Specifically animated/cgi CSAM and scat. The former is illegal in some jurisdictions, and caused a different instance (name withheld) to be widely defederated. The latter was more of an issue with limited tools, but the result was the same- either LemmyNSFW blocks that (at least until better tools are available), or they also get cut off.
For me it was that it was privacyguides making their own lemmy instance that led to me opting for it as my first introduction to the fediverse. Other than that other subs like piracy set up their own instances and now Android. So I wonder if getting a Lemmy instance set up is easier than Kbin?
Well, user experience is going to depend. Kbin.social recently cut federation temporarily with some instances as a way to work through our backlog. I kind of thought that was up and running again, especially since lemmy.world was listed and I can definitely see that, but I question if this is why beehaw refuses to load and I haven't seen anything from them in a week.
Sh.itjust.works is also listed there, but I have this hunch that they may also fall prey to the same bug in lemmy's default reference nginx config that initially stopped kbin users from accessing the android community when they moved. This and Sopuli.xyz (not listed) are both inaccessible, and it's upsetting watching it wear on because I'm interested in communities in both that either won't federate anything I do or that I can't even find in order to sub. This bug is what bothers me the most, that it's in lemmy's default settings is unacceptable, and it makes kbin appear to have much larger issues with federation than it actually does.
Lemmy.ml apparently removed the block only to put it back, which I was not aware of, increasing the likelihood of bullshittery to 90%. I have to actively filter which communities I can actually participate in instead of only appearing to, and they can just defederate out loud if they're that bothered. It's not like they haven't taken criticism before, I'm sure they'll live.
This is my first day in the Fediverse, and I’m building out my sub list in Lemmy right now. I noticed that searching for Communities only looks within the instance that I’m logged into. Is there any easy way to search across all available Lemmy servers for Communities?
Hello! I recently set up a small instance running on pleroma which was my first time setting up something like that. I’m currently thinking about abandoning it, wiping the computer, and doing everything over again, this time with all of the knowledge I have now so Ill mess less things up, a dramatically better site name, as...
Is this being worked on/looked at? I ask since the post mentioned discussion was happening with the .id admins but I haven’t seen any answers about whether that’s a priority (it seems Lemdro.id is the one that needs to federate with k.bin)....
Red Hat used to be one of the champions of FOSS. The last years, after being acquired by IBM, they bought and castrated CentOS and now restrict public access to “their” code....
I experienced the same thing! (Except my home instance is FMHY, not LW)
It is the same experience as trying to view NSFW subs on another instance that I’m not logged into. I already know there’s a filter that won’t show NSFW if you aren’t logged in, which explains those. I even checked, and didn’t see this as having anything marked NSFW.
I think it makes sense if you realise that people are here for such a huge variety of different reasons.
Some of us (including probably yourself) are here because we’re hoping that the fediverse might be an open alternative to corporate social and everything that entails.
Others are here because one of their favourite reddit subs might have closed.
Others probably got caught up in the fuck /u/spez thing and just think it’s cool to hate spez without really understanding what’s going on.
Others are probably here because it’s a just a new virgin landscape for trolling, or building a following or being some kind of influencer.
That’s why a lot of these people would see Meta’s arrival as great news. More people more content.
I will say though, the fediverse is the first platform that can cater to all of these people. For example, you might end up with a group of lemmy instances which refuse to federate with any instances which federate with meta. I’m not saying that’s a good idea, just that it allows everyone to be catered for.
I’m still not seeing it in neither search box. Strange. There also seems to be federation issues with some instances still. I only noticed it because PoppinKREAM migrated to Lemmy (sh.itjust.works instance) but I can’t see any of their comments, posts or user profile on Kbin.social and it’s been a week.
I think the way people interact with microblogs versus comments and posts on a link aggregator are fundamentally different enough that I’m not sure trying to unite them under the same terminology is a great idea. Boost acting like a retweet for the people who follow you is not a bad idea though if that’s how it works, just name it something other than boost so people understand it’s purpose.
And calling single-image memes in a shitpost sub “Articles” in a “Magazine” will never not be bizarre to me.
Not exactly what you're looking for, but kbin's search functionality can give you a list to find every community with that name that's federated on their instance:
And that’s how we ended up with subs rulled by really terrible mods but no one ever bothered to help build up an alternative.
This right here is where centralization comes from. People refusing to try smaller communities, gravitating toward the biggest ones, and suddenly you end up beholden to whatever the admins of that place want, because the community is rooted there.
What we need are multi-reddit style systems where you can combine all smaller instances into one feed, instead of only picking the biggest.
I do, but as more people join I’m also feeling a little republican - i got my spot and this is good; everyone on the outside can go fuck off now. I don’t want it to get so big that it’s what we left. No intended disrespect or lack of acknowledgment to those who were here before.
I don’t think we’re close to the point where the content is becoming watery because of oversaturation. I’m excited about exploring/watching our fediverse grow.
However, though I understand the point of having the same c/cats or whatever communities across different instances, while everything is still beginning it’s hard to gain momentum in any because they’re so spread thin. I realize this diversification is one of the entire points of the fediverse, but when you search and see 4 duplicates it makes it hard to know which to join. Especially for niche communities in the future. I’ve ended up just subbing to all of them in those situations which I’m not sure is what I’m supposed to be doing (or maybe that’s the answer?.
Everywhere I look there are people advocating for defederation from this and that! Do you even understand what you’re suggesting? Do you get what’s the point of decentralized social media and activity pub?...
it shouldn’t pummel your bandwidth from what i understand: your instance will receive all updates and data only from things you follow; not the entire fediverse!
think of it kind of like just reading everything posted to every magazine you subscribe to!
it’s text and a few images: a single youtube video is probably bigger than a day of your fediverse subs
That’s not what’s going to happen. I really don’t understand why people on Lemmy are so fussed about this, Meta are not building a lemmy instance, they are building a twitter clone. While yes you can access Threads content through Lemmy that doesn’t mean it’s going to affect the Lemmy ecosystem. Mastodon is going to be way more affected than Lemmy ever will be.
Just because they are on the Fediverse doesn’t mean it will make sense to use their services through all other Fediverse platforms and vice versa. Following an entire Lemmy “sub” on threads will be a shitty experience and Threads doesn’t have creation of subs as an option, the only viable equivalent features are user posts.
I used to browse Reddit 90+% of the time from my phone through the RiF app, so after June 30th, here is what I did and what I recommend as a starter pack for others in the same situation:...
An instance is a specific website running Lemmy or another piece of federated software. For example, lemmy.world and lemmy.ml are two distinct instances
What’s a community?
A community is the “sub-reddit” of Lemmy. Kbin uses the word “magazines”, but these are the same thing.
What are federations?
A federation is a group of instances sharing posts and activity data with each other so that it can be displayed to their respective end users. For example, I can post to a community on lemmy.world and then you will be able to see my post when you are browsing feddit.de.
Whats the difference between all these?
Let me know if you have additional questions based on my answers above.
What’s mastodon?
Mastodon is a piece of federated software that is built to look and feel like Twitter, similar to how Lemmy is built to look and feel like Reddit.
What’s Kbin?
Kbin.social is a website you can use to browse posts from the Fediverse. From what I understand, it is similar to Reddit as well.
What’s ActivityPub?
ActivityPub is the underlying protocol that Lemmy, Mastodon, and other pieces of federated software use to communicate with each other. This is how they notify each other of new posts, comments, upvotes, etc so they can stay in sync with each other.
It feels like 20 years ago migrating from large chatrooms to bulletin board forums with a smaller more specialized community like setup. Posts and threads don’t instantly get buried, and there don’t seem to be as many assholes looking to pick a fight.
I see that by scaling down, some of the the more niche forums don’t get the traffic, but that will likely change over time. I’m digging the integration with Mastodon so links to people and articles don’t have to flow through Twitter. It minimizes having to sift through tons of ads to read what I want.
I also like the region based instances like lemmy.ca and midwest.social having communities and news that is of interest to those regions. It would be cool once more countries have their instances / communities.
Reddit had a good idea with having subs, but many of them got too big to be able to have meaningful discussion for many people. What is the point of trying to comment and engage in a topic that has 5000 posts? Lemmy hopefully can solve that by having the same community in different instances to keep the size where more people can discuss topics in a smaller more engaging setting.
I don’t know how I didn’t think of this be for, but the Lemmy bean posting could be a psyop that reddit is trying to get people to return to them after switching to Lemmy
Just for the sake of argument: it is different here, than there. Like here if you sub to something, at least on kbin.social I get every single new post as a "notification", rather than simply seeing more of that on the home page like you might expect. I keep forgetting, subscribing, then having to unsubscribe when already the next day there are 30+ notifications from a single account or magazine posting a flood of stuff.
And having to visit the specific magazine - not the user, not the thread, not clicking the link or expanding the picture - to unsubscribe first is somewhat counter-intuitive I suppose. All the more so when you continually have to keep doing it for every non-English magazine from an instance that doesn't mark each magazine since the entire instance is that way (and I've heard people say that about non-NSFW too? although on kbin.social I hardly ever see NSFW content to begin with).
So if someone has a need or desire to simply be taken care of without having to lift a finger to do stuff themselves, atm Reddit legit does that better than here. Fuck spez and all that, I'm just saying that the collective weight of all that effort from all those programmers and such have made it a more "polished" environment than here. You sell your soul to him, and he looks after you, up to a point.
Those of us who come here now don't care - I mean more polish would be nice but we think it's better here even without that - but those who simply want to be taken care of and can't be bothered to e.g. read instructions or search for those, would do better to return there. imho at least, for now, until the software catches up.
UPDATED: lemmony: A (better) better "All" browsing experience for small and large Lemmy instances (github.com)
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If I created my own instance, what would prevent all the others not federating with mine, or is it accepted by default ?
Anyone hosting Lemmy and Mastodon on the same server?
I have Mastodon running on a VPS running Debian 11. Now I would like to add a Lemmy instance on the same server. I tried using the from scratch method from Lemmy documentation, but ran into errors that likely stemmed from minor version incompatibilities of the dependencies. I tried using the Lemmy easy deploy script but it wants...
What do you think is responsible for lemmy’s growth over other alternatives like KBin and Tildes?
Is it speed? Features? Ease of development? Just curious why lemmy is seeing more activity as opposed to other networks.
[META] 17k subscribers - welcome! New mod team, and reminder about rules/navigating the fediverse
WELCOME!...
Is there any way to search for communities across all Lemmy instances?
This is my first day in the Fediverse, and I’m building out my sub list in Lemmy right now. I noticed that searching for Communities only looks within the instance that I’m logged into. Is there any easy way to search across all available Lemmy servers for Communities?
[Question] Is it worth redoing?
Hello! I recently set up a small instance running on pleroma which was my first time setting up something like that. I’m currently thinking about abandoning it, wiping the computer, and doing everything over again, this time with all of the knowledge I have now so Ill mess less things up, a dramatically better site name, as...
[META] The merger from lemmy.world has locked out k.bin members. [FIXED]
Is this being worked on/looked at? I ask since the post mentioned discussion was happening with the .id admins but I haven’t seen any answers about whether that’s a priority (it seems Lemdro.id is the one that needs to federate with k.bin)....
Vaporware Art - Official Lemmy Counterpart to r/vaporwaveart (normalcity.life)
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RHEL, Reddit, firing employees in the IT sector: Corporate mentality flexes its muscles
Red Hat used to be one of the champions of FOSS. The last years, after being acquired by IBM, they bought and castrated CentOS and now restrict public access to “their” code....
I don't get people that are here in the fediverse and *want to bring over* the content that is on FB, IG, TikTok, etc.
This has come to mind because all the chatter about Meta federating....
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Is there a way to subscribe to all communities with the same name? (i.imgur.com)
Is it possible to automatically subscribe to all (federated) communities with the same name?...
Do you find that you're on the fed more than you were on r/ just because you're really really excited to watch your favorite communities become more active?
I do, but as more people join I’m also feeling a little republican - i got my spot and this is good; everyone on the outside can go fuck off now. I don’t want it to get so big that it’s what we left. No intended disrespect or lack of acknowledgment to those who were here before.
Tame your inner dictator!
Everywhere I look there are people advocating for defederation from this and that! Do you even understand what you’re suggesting? Do you get what’s the point of decentralized social media and activity pub?...
Meta will kill small instances! Please read.
I just read this point in a comment and wanted to bring it to the spotlight....
Disappointed ex-Reddit user after the APIcalypse - starter pack
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Reddit Refugees on Lemmy, how are you guys liking lemmy so far?
Lemmy bean posting could be a reddit counterattack to get people to return to reddit.
I don’t know how I didn’t think of this be for, but the Lemmy bean posting could be a psyop that reddit is trying to get people to return to them after switching to Lemmy