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quindraco ,
xuxebiko ,

@Cloudless & I maintain a zine tracking all Sponsors of Russia's invasion at https://kbin.social/m/SponsorsOfRussianInvasion . We use multiple sources viz. Ukraine govt sites, Yale's tracker, and credible news sources.

We also have a zine tracking business who have rejected to support Russia's invasion and have exited Russia at https://kbin.social/m/BizAgainstRussianInvasion

NumbersCanBeFun ,
@NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social avatar

Thank you kindly. Just subbed to both 😁🍻

xuxebiko ,

:)

zephyreks ,

Doesn’t stop Ukraine from buying drones built by Xiaomi and sold/distributed by Alibaba.

hypelightfly ,

I don't see why it would. It's not like they're in a position to not buy from wherever they can.

zephyreks ,

Hardly makes Alibaba and Xiaomi sponsors of war 🤷‍♀️

hypelightfly ,

It doesn't affect it one way or the other. What does is their continuing operations in Russia, who started and is continuing the war.

zephyreks ,

So…? How does that affect the sale of consumer electronics?

CaptainAniki ,

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  • zephyreks ,

    Because China (and Mexico, India, Southeast Asia, South America, Africa, and the Middle East) have not really introduced sanctions (except against military equipment)? These companies are following their government’s policy, which is more than can be said for companies like PepsiCo and Mars (both American).

    International trade is dictated by countries, not by companies. If a company is breaking the policy of the country it operates from, that’s obviously very bad. These companies aren’t trying to pick sides: their government hasn’t picked a side and so there is no reason for the company to.

    Cube6392 ,

    The sponsors of war list is a list of companies circumventing everyone else’s efforts to place a defacto embargo on Russia to show that their actions have consequences. When companies cross that picket line, they undermine the entire exercise, making it easier for Russia to continue operations. The idea, for the rest of us, is to in turn boycott the companies on the list so they’ll also experience their actions have consequences.

    We have that luxury right now. Ukraine does not. So the idea is that we can help Ukraine by not doing business with companies that are making extra special bonus money by selling their products with a defacto monopoly in Russia right now

    zephyreks ,

    Who’s efforts? From what I can see, only North America and Europe have joined in this so-called international embargo. In fact, not even Mexico has any sanctions against Russia.

    What’s the motivation for including companies based in countries that haven’t called for trade restrictions?

    Sure, I agree fully that countries based in Europe or North America should follow government policy or relocate, but I’m not expecting companies to behave outside of the policy detailed by their government.

    DrM ,

    If you buy a drone for lets say 1000$ from Xiaomi via AliBaba, 100$ of those go to AliBaba maybe 1$ goes to Russia. from the 900$ left for Xiaomi, 600 are gone for the production. 300 left, 3 go to Russia. 4$ for Russia. But if this drone helps invalidate only one russian soldier, that 4$ are easily worth 100000$. If it helps invalidate a tank, it goes to the millions. Thats easily worth it if there is no alternative

    Corkyskog ,

    I have also seen people say “I buy from Amazon, because I don’t want to support Alibaba”… like dude where do you think “VURUU” brand you just bought from sources all their shit from?

    derpo ,

    You mean VRCUUC isn’t a homegrown American brand?

    root_beer ,

    What about Pooplunch?

    0x2d ,

    what about ZHKUBDL?

    zephyreks ,

    Where the fuck is the money going to Russia from?

    barsoap ,

    Bacardi? It would be off-brand for them to not back dictatorships.

    rockSlayer ,

    Next up: the nord vpn logo engraved on every bullet

    Raxiel ,

    This daisycutter brought to you by manscaped.

    root_beer ,

    Correspondence to families of dead soldiers are sponsored by BetterHelp

    OsrsNeedsF2P ,

    This explains why LinkedIn was sending out surveys today asking “What do you think about PepsiCo?”, “What are the top reasons you would want to work at PepsiCo?”, to a bunch of people. The whole thing was extremely weird, and obviously a PR campaign

    RubiksIsocahedron ,

    Does this mean that Ukraine will say “Hi, Mars” with HIMARS?

    And009 ,

    Hi dad

    AlexWIWA ,

    Better be careful, I hear Pepsi had the biggest warfleet in the world at one point.

    SadTrain ,

    Psh. They don’t even have a harrier.

    AlexWIWA ,

    Neither do I, despite how much I’ve asked 😢

    root_beer ,

    Oh, no, they prob. do, they just won’t give it to you even when you rightfully won it

    ProfessorGumby ,
    @ProfessorGumby@midwest.social avatar
    sneezymrmilo ,

    Man disappointing seeing how many companies I recognize on that list. Boycotting all these companies would be difficult considering how a lot of the companies on here own 20+ brands.

    SpaceCowboy ,
    @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

    Yeah Proctor & Gamble is the toughest one for me. They kinda have a lock on some industries like laundry detergents.

    I guess we just do our best. Russia is a small market, so it doesn’t take to much of hit to these bastards in the bigger markets before they abandon Russia.

    lud ,

    In Europe Unilever or Mondelez is probably the hardest for me.

    root_beer ,

    There’s a reason they say that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. This isn’t to say we should just throw our hands up and give in, but do whatever the hell you can.

    For instance—sorry if you already know to do this—it may not apply for a lot of these companies, in that the goods are consumed, but whenever you can, buy secondhand to reduce not just waste, but also profits for whoever produces the product you buy. Also, sorry if it sounds trite, but I like to think that every little step helps in some way.

    Random_user ,

    Can’t believe nestle isn’t on the list and #1

    frustratedphagocytosis ,
    @frustratedphagocytosis@kbin.social avatar

    Not surprised that a company named after the god of war is an international war sponsor

    OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe ,

    Took me about 7 seconds of thinking before I realized you meant Mars. Couldn’t remember a God named Pepsi for the life of me.

    krolden ,
    @krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

    Pepsi is actually named after Pepe the frog.

    bfg9k ,

    Pepsi the dog

    KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX ,
    @KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml avatar

    Pepsi makes the dogs gay.

    cantrips ,

    Actually it’s named after the Pepsicum plant, which gives Pepsi it’s garbage taste.

    Spliffman1 ,
    @Spliffman1@lemmy.world avatar

    I went through the same process lol

    outbound ,

    Actually, Mars was named after its founder, Franklin Clarence Mars.

    jcg ,

    Franklin Clarence Mars (/ˈmɑːrz/; September 24, 1883 – April 8, 1935) was an American business magnate who founded the food company Mars, Incorporated, which mostly makes chocolate candy. Mars’ son Forrest Edward Mars developed M&M’s and the Mars bar. He is also widely believed to be the god of war.

    Bipta ,

    I'll definitely be checking what I buy from these companies and making adjustments to my habits.

    Slava Ukraine.

    Piye ,

    I’ll be buying more

    Death to Ukraine and the Nazi Party!

    rikudou ,

    I guess you don’t see the irony in your statement, huh?

    Hexadecimalkink ,

    You’re a rube

    TremblingTelepath ,
    @TremblingTelepath@lemmy.ml avatar

    I bet they donated when the checkout kiosk prompted them for a dollar to Slava hahaha

    wAkawAka ,
    @wAkawAka@lemmy.world avatar

    “international war sponsor” what a nice title, I think every company operating in US should have it!

    awwwyissss ,

    Why

    chuckleslord ,

    Because most international conflicts that the US enters are due to threats (or potential windfalls) to the profitability of our largest companies.

    Or at least that’s the joke/context

    oce ,
    @oce@jlai.lu avatar

    Can we not be as stupid as redditors when they downvote people for asking questions?

    End0fLine ,
    @End0fLine@startrek.website avatar

    Especially questions asked of a sentence steeped in hyperbole.

    DLSchichtl ,

    We removed the safety labels. It’s up to the individual to not display ignorance worth dunking on.

    Dkarma ,

    No one is downvoting for asking questions they’re downvoting for asking trolling questions that are either obvious or can be answered by a quick Google search.

    Only a troll is “unaware” the us has committed war crimes itself often at the direction of corporations.

    Eg: the dole company in South and central America etc.

    oce ,
    @oce@jlai.lu avatar

    Maybe give them the benefit of the doubt, not everyone is from the USA or obsessed by it here, and good answers can teach people efficiently, I’m pretty sure you learned things this way yourself.

    Dkarma ,

    No, everyone has access to Google. This is a cop out that allows trolls to appear to be legitimate question askers. They are not. Do not entertain the notion.

    30mag ,

    How do we know you’re not trolling?

    Dkarma ,

    Yes the guy providing common sense answers is totally a troll. You got me. The most pragmatic troll ever.

    Nythos ,

    Asking the question promotes discussion.

    Which is exactly what Lemmy needs to show to newcomers it’s not a barren wasteland of nothing.

    Dkarma ,

    Asking a dumb question promotes ridicule…always has. Lemmy is no different.

    DLSchichtl ,

    THIS IS WHY, NO, PEPSI IS NOT OKAY!

    robbotlove ,

    is sierra mist ok?

    pythonoob ,

    Isn’t that starry now

    DLSchichtl ,

    Unfortunately, Sierra Mist was killed in a tragic car accident. Her twin brother, Starry, has stepped in to fill her shoes.

    TopRamenBinLaden ,

    I like how both of these soda names could double as stripper names.

    StickyLavander ,

    Pepsi advertising the fighter jet is making more sense now.

    Malgas ,

    They did also have the sixth largest naval fleet in the world for a brief period in 1989.

    As a direct result of trading with Russia, even.

    Astroturfed ,

    Just another reason to not drink the diabetes piss water that is Pepsi. They lost the cola wars for a reason. Come sucks too, but fuck Pepsi even harder.

    GBU_28 ,

    You drink a lot of come?

    Astroturfed ,

    Oh yes, come is my favorite. I come everywhere I go.

    And009 ,

    Hmm

    Metatronz ,

    If you say so, buddy.

    AlligatorBlizzard ,

    There’s actually a gas station chain called Kum and Go.

    espentan ,

    I almost keeled over laughing the first time I saw that.

    Edit: Wish there was one called Wham Bam Tank You Ma’am

    iamtrashman1312 ,

    I have another one for you. I’ve seen Kum & Gos, but these were a rare treat indeed

    PipedLinkBot ,

    Here is an alternative Piped link(s): piped.video/_OM7IPE5b3w?si=nFmlb_6EvWXJHSmC

    Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

    I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

    Zink ,

    Every time I see that name I have to pause and acknowledge that holy crap somebody actually did that.

    It’s like a much more mundane version of “holy crap that guy was really the president of the US, and for a while and everything!

    Dicska ,

    The coconut is very subtle.

    altima_neo ,
    @altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

    Vení, vidi, veni

    oatscoop ,

    Royal Crown is superior anyway, and I’ll fight anyone that says it ain’t.

    phar ,

    Have you had rc anytime recently? It tastes like store brand soda

    oatscoop ,

    … they didn’t change the recipe, did they?

    BaconIsAVeg ,

    No, it’s always tasted like watered down Pepsi.

    HellAwaits ,

    Sure, I’ll bite. It sucks donkey dick.

    oatscoop ,

    You’re entitled to your opinion, even if it is indefensibly incorrect.

    rikudou ,

    Photo or it didn’t happen.

    JustZ ,

    This drone grenade brought to you by The Real Thing, Baby!™

    root_beer ,

    I think that was Coca-Cola, Pepsi was The Choice of a New Generation.

    Commercialism! Ta-dah!

    JustZ ,

    Oh yeah you’re right.

    Kirkkh ,

    Wtf are these companies doing. Soda manufacturer’s are at the top in revenue generation and at the bottom in risk. They print liquid money. It’s just moronic to risk the horrid PR of looking like you’re sponsoring a kleptocratic war mongering nation (like the Ukraine just accused you of).

    v4ld1z ,
    @v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

    FYI: the “the” before Ukraine is superfluous. You can just type “like Ukraine just accused you of.”

    dutchkimble ,

    What about The Hague

    altima_neo ,
    @altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

    And The United States

    lud ,

    What about:

    • the England
    • the Germany
    • the France
    • the Sweden
    • the Russia
    • the Poland

    Normal country names don’t begin with “the”

    “The United States of America” makes grammatical sense. “The Ukraine” or any of the above doesn’t .

    Streetdog ,

    Except when you’re from the Netherlands.

    uranos ,

    The Holland.

    Spliffman1 ,
    @Spliffman1@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m looking for the hoe land

    espentan ,

    That makes sense, again, grammatically. The low/lower/nether land.

    LucasWaffyWaf ,

    In Dutch it’s just called Nederland. “The” is added when referring to it in English since it makes more grammatical sense in English. The Low-Lying Lands.

    Ukraine is its full proper name, from the original name of Україна, which can be romanized to Ukraine.

    rikudou ,

    To “Ukraina”, not Ukraine, but that’s just a minor correction.

    altima_neo ,
    @altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

    I was being facetious

    fox2263 ,

    The Philippines

    Spliffman1 ,
    @Spliffman1@lemmy.world avatar

    THE Donald

    1847953620 ,

    The idiot.

    Spliffman1 ,
    @Spliffman1@lemmy.world avatar

    The UK is like an abbreviation for The Ukraine

    Cube6392 ,

    The name of Ukraine is Ukraine. “The Ukraine” was a USSR administrative district. The name of The United States is The United States

    Tagger ,

    It’s actually a really interesting but of english.

    We include ‘the’ when the type of government or state is mentioned which is why it is just China but it’s the people’s Republic of china or in the case of a region, like the Cotswolds.

    Ukraine was referred to as the Ukraine during the soviet Union as it was a region of a greater country. Therefore using the Ukraine basically diminishes Ukraine to a territory of another country which is sorta what they’re fighting not to be.

    Latecoere ,
    @Latecoere@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    That’s the proper name of it. The Ukraine isn’t the proper name of Ukraine.

    phoenixz ,

    Yeah, no. They can earn millions with Russia, so they do. Spend half on that in good PR, and you still earned millions in blood money.

    And if people get pissed? The news cycle means they’ll forget about this in about 3 days so you’re good

    AssholeDestroyer ,

    Pepsi has a history in Russia. They once traded the USSR soda in exchange for a fleet of naval ships. IIRC at the time Pepsi had the 4th largest navy in the world. They sold the ships to Norway.

    Piye ,

    “Worthless Nazis and White Supremacists get mad at people of color making money”

    wew

    randomperson ,

    Why do I see lemmygrad cockroaches if lemmy.world defederated from that hellhole?

    Shinhoshi ,
    @Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Your instance hasn’t defederated from Lemmygrad yet, and we won’t defederate your instance so you have to deal with expanding your perspectives.

    rikudou ,

    Dealing with lemmygrad users is “expanding perspectives” as much as massive diarrhea is just “a weight loss program” - technically it’s true but it’s still shit.

    And coincidentally, most of what Lemmygrad users write is a diarrhea.

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