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Putin has decided that Russia is going to be a 'safe haven' for people who want to trade liberal Western ways for Russian 'moral values'

  • Putin has signed a decree that Russia will welcome foreigners who want to escape Western liberal ideals.
  • Applicants may include those from countries unaligned with "Russian spiritual and moral values."
  • The application process has been simplified, and visas will be issued as soon as next month.
artemisRiverborne ,

Sounds like Russia is running low on cannon fodder

Schmuppes ,

Godspeed, fellow western patriots emigrating to Russia!

not_that_guy05 ,

I think this is an invite for all magas.

Asafum ,

One can only hope

pivot_root ,

s/magas/tankies/

Kecessa ,

Ok ok, just imagine that, Trump loses, moves to Russia and then since Putin has no use for him anymore he sends him to the front line!

Thebeardedsinglemalt ,

Let’s see his bone spurs get him out of that one

badbytes ,

Ask the Freestra family, who left Canada to escape its wokism, how’s the move working out? nemoskva.net/…/eto-bylo-ochen-glupo-seme-kanadcze…

Zacryon ,

“It was very stupid”, haha love how that starts.

dwalin ,

Its almost as if they are having a demographic crysis

chalupapocalypse ,

Please give them free plane tickets, then when they get off the plane just do the beginning of Enemy at the Gates

nulluser ,

Please give them free plane tickets

Great idea.

Announcement: I pledge to buy a one way plane ticket from any US airport to Moscow for the first two US citizens that can prove to me that they A) have a social media history demonstrating rejection of Western liberal ideals, and B) have had their Russian immigration visa accepted.

If they return to the US at any point in my lifetime, the offer is rescinded and they must refund me the cost of the ticket.

andrewta ,

You missed item number three

They must turn over their passport

SkunkWorkz ,

Bet the intelligence agencies will label anyone who takes up on Putin’s offer as a foreign agent when they return home.

kent_eh ,

If they’re allowed to return home…

Antmz22 ,

Why would they take the offer then return home.

Russian internal politics is a heaven for MAGA types.

troyunrau ,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

Wait until they find they don’t have 2nd amendment rights there

HikingVet ,

Huh, is the meat grinder not getting enough?

WhatAmLemmy ,

Probably also a massive brain drain to boot.

MrStankov ,

Yeah, I don’t think this will help very much with that particular issue…

AllNewTypeFace ,
@AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space avatar

I don’t know. Maybe they need more cryptocurrency experts and sovcit hedge-lawyers to help with getting around sanctions

kent_eh ,

Maybe they need more cryptocurrency experts and sovcit hedge-lawyers

They can have them.

Preferably before November.

nulluser ,

I have bad news for them if they think accepting people running from “Western liberal ideals” is going to help with that somehow.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Probably. “Come to Russia! Is safe place! Is not place with liberals! What? No, we don’t need bodies for military! No conscription of foreigners here!”

Steve ,

Fast and easy to get citizenship!

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Plus a little state sponsored travel, for a treat!

Steve ,

See the world* for free!

*Ukraine

9488fcea02a9 ,

Service guarantees citizenship!

Would you like to know more?

jaybone ,

“If it works for Isis, surely this will work for me.”

Odd thing is, he might not be far off. He could try to sell some incels on hot single Russian women whose men have all died in 60 year old tanks. Also maybe some gravy seals might be willing to sign up. Maybe when Trump loses he’ll move there followed by some of his MAGA cult, and they’ll be this English speaking enclave in Russia somewhere. Could be the premise for a sci-fi tv show.

UncleGrandPa ,

They made the same offer to men from Nepal…many relocated to Russia

So far 10 are dead and hundreds missing

Kecessa ,

So hundreds are dead

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You never know, some may have safely defected to Ukraine.

troyunrau ,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

This would be the most circuitous immigration route they could take to get to Europe… go to russia, head to front lines (and survive), surrender, become a POW, claim refugee status (and avoid being deported), land in a western country and start from scratch.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I was thinking just because they realized if they didn’t defect, they’d be killed, not to get to Europe.

NatakuNox ,
@NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll buy them plane tickets if they need help getting the hell out of my country

BenLeMan ,

I wouldn’t mind my tax money paying for their one-way tickets. Especially if they leave their passport at the gate.

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

russia is not conservative at all, but it is a fascist police state without 1st, 2nd, in fact all amendments I’ve checked up to the 10th, so they’re going to love it, I guess.

r00ty Admin ,
r00ty avatar

Well, most countries aren't going to have the same constitutional rights as the USA has. In the same way, the US doesn't give their citizens the same rights as those in other countries receive. As such, I'm not sure if there's too much point comparing the two.

Otherwise. Yes, it's not going to be a nice place to live, and anyone that chooses this option has only themselves to blame when they realise they made a deal with the leopard that has a history of biting faces off.

kevindqc ,

yahoo.com/…/conservative-family-disappointed-movi…

Also wtf is this ad

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/8f0d25a2-13d2-48fb-917e-df201ef85975.png

gedaliyah ,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

Sometimes clickbait is so bad that it’s good again

r00ty Admin ,
r00ty avatar

I'm not sure if that story is onionesque or real. Now, that uncertaintly is a problem with the modern world.

cacheson ,

Arend also highlighted the former Soviet Union's perceived "strength" to "stand up against Western pressures" and its ability to shield their family from ideologies they found objectionable.

"Other countries are under the Western influence and wouldn't be able to stand up against it," he claimed.

"Western chauvinist" to "eastern chauvinist" speed run any%

5too ,

…it didn’t occur to them to even start learning Russian before they went?!

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

My comment was about the irony them “escaping” to have freedom of speech, gun freedom and trial by jury of their peers to a country that has none of those, not being a bad place to live. It’s not about “other countries”. Other countries can do whatever they want.

(yea, I think I commented in the wrong thread, this was meant to go on the other one where magats ponder moving to russia)

r00ty Admin ,
r00ty avatar

Yeah, my point is, comparing them to constitutional amendments doesn't make too much sense for the rest of us.

But you know, I think they do have trial by jury. Just, I think like the elections there, the jury gets told the result, before they decide it.

If they want to own guns, no problem. The government will supply them, and even provide transportation to a place they can use them. (I hope the /s is implied here).

NABDad ,

the US doesn’t give their citizens the same rights as those in other countries receive.

The U.S. doesn’t give their citizens the same rights that the U.S. constitution has.

rayyy ,

Shhh, They THINK Putin’s Russia is a conservative utopia so don’t crush their dreams.

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

But they have bread…and shopping carts!

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Not just bread, fresh bread! In many varieties! Something you would never see in one of those filthy American supermarkets with their shelves stocked with nothing but stale loaves of Wonder Bread.

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

Ok, ok, bread culture is generally better in most of Europe.

Sandwich loaves didn’t even cross my mind :/

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

All I know is I would never pick up and sniff a flithy American loaf of bread.

Asafum ,

Their Facebook feeds will be absolutely hilarious.

“They aren’t respecting my second amendment rights!!” As they live in a completely different country…

jimmydoreisalefty ,
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

That would be a sideways move.

Changing from one oligarchy to another oligarchy.

Well, if you become a whistleblower or if you are a journalist that the west wants to arrest, or get rid of, that might be your best bet.

Edward Snowden is alive and kicking.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

this is just rebranding oligarchy in a way thats palatable to religious whackjobs, like US conservatives.

jimmydoreisalefty ,
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

rebranding oligarchy

How? The billionaires and corporations own the most important resources while having great influence over our elections and politicians.

We are only a republic or a “democracy” in our dreams, but in reality, we are also already a fascist country with our police state.

Not to mention the Patriot Act and the many more policies that follow.

The USA PATRIOT Act was a landmark Act of the United States Congress, signed into law by President George W. Bush.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

nothing youve said here negates my point. these kinds of messages arent meant for people paying attention.

im not disagreeing with you. rebranding is all about optics, and attempting to change peoples view of something... often a terrible thing.

jimmydoreisalefty ,
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

Interesting! Thanks for expanding on your thoughts a bit!

cdf12345 ,

I dunno, seems like there’s a significantly higher chance of falling from a window and dying in Russia

jimmydoreisalefty ,
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

As an American, I know about our regime-change wars and about our military leaks, including some of our real civilian causalities in our forever wars.

Not to mention our civil rights activists keep dying, as well as other information about the three letter agencies.

I try to avoid races to the bottom, especially when comparing citizen deaths in the US and Russia.

It will not make any nation more popular.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

As an American

[X] Doubt

jimmydoreisalefty ,
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

No Doubt is a great band.

As an American

I add that due to encounters with non-Americans.

We are strangers on the internet; feel free to think what you will, I will not try to force it on you, hahaha.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Edward Snowden is alive and kicking.

Alexei Navalny isn’t. I wonder what the difference could be?

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Chelsea Manning isn’t even in prison anymore.

wazoobonkerbrain ,

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    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s a different issue. The point was if she had done it in Russia, not only would she not have been allowed to transition, she’d be dead.

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    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    That is why Chelsea Manning was brought up. Because if she had done what she did in Russia, she would have been murdered by the state for doing it.

    TheMandalorian ,
    @TheMandalorian@sffa.community avatar

    I wonder what the difference could be?

    Actually, it’s pretty simple. Edward Snowden exposed government surveillance and ran away, seeking asylum to protect himself after revealing what he believed was in the public’s interest. Navalny, on the other hand, wasn’t motivated by public interest—he actively betrayed his country, aligning with foreign interests and openly opposing the government. Unlike Snowden, who wisely fled, Navalny stayed behind like an imbecile. And guess what happens to traitors in Russia? It’s not like in the US, where all that matters is money, fast food, and the latest social media trends—Russia doesn’t mess around when it comes to nationalism.

    gedaliyah ,
    @gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

    Snowden never wanted to be in Russia. He was trapped there inadvertently by diplomats.

    whotookkarl ,
    @whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

    About to be a bunch of confused conservatives showing up in Kursk with a few bullets and no training?

    HikingVet ,

    Who quickly realise that hunting deer isn’t a proper way to prepare for modern combat.

    Gsus4 , (edited )
    @Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

    My deer shoot back, don’t yours?

    Assman ,
    @Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deer_Avenger

    VerdantSporeSeasoning ,

    And who have just relocated their best hostages to within Putin’s power. Yes, bring your nine children and wife along to Russia–now stay in rank on the front line, or maybe your oldest gets to come serve in your place (earlier than they would have anyway)!

    bazus1 ,

    One gets the rifle, the other gets the spare mag.

    Bougie_Birdie ,
    @Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    The man with the gun shoots the gun.

    The man without a gun finds a gun.

    Netrunner ,
    @Netrunner@programming.dev avatar

    Shhh

    Don’t tell anyone lol. Let them go and pikachu face.

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