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“Yeah, they’re gone”: Musk confirms cuts to X’s election integrity team — “‘Election Integrity’ Team.. was undermining election integrity,” Musk writes

“Yeah, they’re gone”: Musk confirms cuts to X’s election integrity team — “‘Election Integrity’ Team… was undermining election integrity,” Musk writes::“‘Election Integrity’ Team… was undermining election integrity,” Musk writes.

spittingimage ,
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I’m about 75% certain this guy has no idea which words are coming out of his mouth.

HawlSera ,

Elon Musk is a fucking Neo Nazi aka “The Modern Day Republican”, anything that even acknowledges the Democrats as a viable political party is “Extremist Far Left Nonsense” to these deplorables.

AndyLikesCandy ,

I completely believe that they were failing.

Question is how bad will the PsyOps and interference get? Without them?

JdW ,

Depends on how relevant twitx still is come the elections…

irotsoma ,
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It will still be relevant with the minority that holds the majority of power in the US due to gerrymandering, the electoral college, and all of the effort that Republicans have put into making it extremely difficult for people in cities to vote. I mean Fox News was only relevant to them in the last several elections.

Goo_bubbs ,

The next time there’s an election that the Republicans try to steal, X (formerly Twitter) will now work to back up their lies completely. That’s what’s really happening here.

AndyLikesCandy ,

Not QUITE how Twitter works, Democrats can pay for ads and run all the psyops they want with fake accounts too.

Question is whether any Chinese or Russian intelligence teams decide targeting messages at lefties is going to contribute towards their goals as a whole.

phoenixz ,

So Putin told you to do this? I mean, why else would you do something so blatantly stupid?

onlinepersona ,

Goverments should have their own fediverse instances and delete all their twitter accounts 🤷

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  • FooBarrington ,

    This is a very strange comparison, considering Truth Social is not owned by any government.

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  • FooBarrington ,

    I don’t think @onlineperson meant this as “host their own social network”, but as “host their own micro-messaging platform to release news which is part of the fediverse”. This would make them resilient against PoS like Musk, while making their news accessible to a wide variety of users.

    onlinepersona ,

    Exactly what I mean. The Netherlands has one, Germany too, and even the European Union, but it isn’t their major presence and IMO, it should be.

    gsfraley ,

    It’s not…? It’s literally just another social media site, it doesn’t hook into ActivityPub or any cross-broadcast protocol. I don’t know why you’re throwing around the word “fediverse” here.

    dabaldeagul ,
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    It is a fork of Mastodon though, iirc. But I don’t think it federates with anything.

    onlinepersona ,

    Nah, more like this social.network.europa.eu

    mp3 ,
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    Same for news organizations. Give the option for reporters that leave or join the organization to migrate their account (aka keep their followers).

    That way they provide a proof of authenticity for their reporters by being hosted on their Mastodon instance. Obviously, the instance shouldn’t let the public create an account there, only follow from another instance.

    onlinepersona ,

    That does make a lot of sense!

    lorty ,
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    That’s an interesting way to say you don’t know what the fediverse is.

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  • bitsplease ,

    It literally has all the federation features removed. By definition it isn’t part of the fediverse, because it’s not federating anything

    If I set up my own mastodon server, but blocked literally all federation, then my server wouldn’t be part of the fediverse. It’s a bit odd that this has to be elaborated on

    HawlSera ,

    I think they will and the history books will say “In retrospect, having politicians use a privately owned platform to speak to their constituents was a bad call, as Traitor and Child Murderer Elon Musk demonstrated.”

    bemenaker ,

    When will the Tesla board of directors move against Musk as CEO to save the company?

    RagingRobot ,

    I just bought a new electric car. Didn’t even consider Tesla because of this guy.

    vagrantprodigy ,

    Same when I bought mine last year. I’m very irked by the fact that most manufacturers are changing to their charging plug too. I want nothing to do with anything Tesla/Musk.

    bemenaker ,

    While it’s a Tesla plug, at least a standard is reached, which will.speed charging stations deployments.

    vagrantprodigy ,

    A standard was reached, and everyone except Tesla was on board, and now everyone is for some reason getting on board with yet another standard.

    Uncle_Bagel ,

    They can’t because the company is propped up entirely by his cult of personality. If he goes, Tesla and SpaceX will collapse

    whofearsthenight ,

    I think SpaceX will be fine, Tesla I think you’re mostly right. Tesla’s valuation has been almost entirely his cult, but the shine is pretty much off that apple. There has already been some vocal outcry over his antics, and if he had a real board instead of his brother and sycophants, he’d probably already be gone. Any responsible board at this point would see that Tesla is having massive internal struggles (they ship about 60/40 cars to vaporware and have increasing issues with QA and service) and the thing it mostly had going for it was first mover advantage which they’ve now mostly squandered. They still have a good business with the supercharger network, and with proper leadership could still be a big player in the space, but they’re about to be inundated with competition they’ve never really had. They’ve sort of already lost the cool kid premium status to Rivian and Lucid, and Model 3 is about to face competition in a way it never really has.

    So all that, and the CEO is shitposting conspiracy theories on his pet project social media app that he’s publicly mismanaging by basically all measures. Like I said, any real board, he’d already be out. I suspect that unless something changes, it won’t be long before there will be real moves to remove him.

    Zetta ,

    I don’t know where you got the idea that SpaceX is propped up by musks personality, SpaceX is propped up by currently being the most revolutionary space company in the world.

    Musk is a dickhead but the spaceX engineers are doing incredible things and advancing humanities space access forward. What SpaceX has done for the global space access can’t be understated.

    bemenaker ,

    Tesla at this point is fine standing on its own. The management at Tesla for years has run interference between musk and the actual engineers. Musk did a lot of necessary fund raising early.on but at this point he is a mass.liability and sales are falling. Tesla has more competition than ever, and he is driving away people who.would buy tesla cars. The right doesn’t buy electric vehicles.

    IHaveTwoCows ,

    This reminds me about how the head of Salem Media Group said “well if you look at fact checkers, they’re all liberal!”, completely oblivious that he just admitted conservatives are bald faced liars.

    Revonult ,

    The truth and facts have left leaning bias. The right has no choice but to lie. Their policies are unpopular and unsupported.

    mlg ,
    @mlg@lemmy.world avatar

    Man I’d pay money for him to do the same thing to the totally democratic election commission of Pakistan.

    But that would involve getting rid of a useless thing which I don’t think Musk is physically capable of doing lol

    Lightrider ,
    AndreTelevise ,

    The Russian misinfo version:

    InvertedParallax ,

    2024 is going to be a bad, bad year.

    Deiskos ,

    As will be every year after that. It’s all downhill from here folks.

    clausetrophobic ,

    Pessimism literally helps nobody, it just makes people more depressed and less likely to do anything about a bad situation. Don’t forget that last election had one of the highest young voter turnouts ever recorded, and was by far a huge swing to liberal. Since then the Republican party hasn’t even been close to as organised as they were during 2016 and 2020.

    Change can and will happen. It already is, albeit slowly and with bumps along the road, just like any progression in society.

    CosmicCleric ,
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    Pessimism literally helps nobody, it just makes people more depressed and less likely to do anything about a bad situation.

    Change can and will happen. It already is, albeit slowly and with bumps along the road, just like any progression in society.

    Yep. Seriously, keep the faith. And fight the good fight.

    blazeknave ,

    You got through to me and changed my perspective. Ty

    clausetrophobic ,

    Pessimism is so addictive. I’ve struggled with it a ton throughout my life.

    blazeknave ,

    Like most bad habits, it’s the easier option

    IHaveTwoCows ,

    Pessimism hapoens vecause the fucking liberals wont let us call Nazis what they are and keep insisting that they deserve more fucking free speech than progressives do.

    Arm up, everyone, or get shoved into the boxcars.

    clausetrophobic ,

    I get your statement but it’s really overly violent, and honestly sounds kind of libertarian. More guns & more violence really will not solve anything. If you get violent all you do is justify violent means for your oppressors. In this day and age, there’s no winning a fight of violence against the government and groups you disagree with. There’s far better alternatives that we have. The benefit of capitalism is that it means the only fucking thing that works against the power structure is to scare them from losing control of their capital. I guarantee en-mass “voting with your wallet”, and literal voting, will have a much better effect than arming up.

    Also, you’re free to call Nazis, Nazis. Nobody is stopping you.

    IHaveTwoCows ,

    Capitalism has worked in the fascists’ favor, as capitalism is inherently fascist.

    The rest is just platitudes that clearly haven’t worked, and the violence has already been committed by their side; mine is DEFENSIVE.

    Sorry, but you do not understand who we are dealing with.

    Adalast ,

    Normally I would agree with you, but with the rise of violent rhetoric being espoused by the likes of Marjorie Taylor Green and Lauren Boebert. There is a consistent rise on both sides, though one definitely has a markedly larger proportion, saying that violence against voters from the other side of the aisle is justifiable. carnegieendowment.org/…/rise-in-political-violenc…

    It would likely be imprudent to think that a social group who can condone the beliefs and behaviors of the likes of neo-Nazis, the KKK, and the Proud Boys, as well as support the active dismantling of historical education that is based in fact and objectivity would be incapable of they themselves succumbing to a mob mentality that led to mass violence. All you have to do is look at the Stanford Prison Experiment to understand just how fast a select group in control of messaging and communication can lead normally rational people down a path of wonton violence for a cause that was not actually their own.

    “Voting with your wallet” barely even works anymore with most of the consumer goods being produced by 1 of like 12 companies that form corporate oligopolies over virtually every industry. Voting in the booths “works”, but the trend of conservative candidates just refusing to accept that they lost and whipping that same aforementioned group of voters into a tizzy could easily lead to some rather problematic situations that can easily snowball beyond where the unprepared are, well, prepared for.

    It probably isn’t a bad idea to arm up, whether it is with actual weapons or weaponized knowledge. Knowing how to utilize incendiary devices or kitchen chemistry defensively is not a bad thing for rational, level-headed people to know. I’m not saying “arm up, a war is coming”, more like “the Boy Scouts have the motto ‘Be Prepared’ for a very good reason.”

    Serinus ,

    Nobody’s getting shoved into boxcars. Well, unless you’re trans, or gay, or the wrong skin color that day (I’m guessing brown first), or if you say something the president doesn’t like, or if you’re associated with a terrorist organization (by showing up to the wrong protest).

    Deiskos , (edited )

    I’m glad you have some optimism left in you. I don’t.

    Trump or that clown Sunak winning your election will have catastrophic effects for my country who’s been in full scale war for almost 2 years. All the while the “allies” drag this war out by giving bullshit reasons to not send long range missiles and aircraft (uwu 5-8 months basic proficiency for fighter pilots proficient on a different platform , also known as “if they started even last year, f16s would be flying at least SEAD by now and not relying on a jank adaptor to launch HARM”), and decide that sending 31 Abrams tanks is good enough for a 1200km long frontline.

    I had some optimism in March 2022, despite how bad everything looked at the time, it slowly diminished to what it is now by Spring of 2023 when it became clear that goal #1 for our “allies” is NOT to end this war, as quickly as possible, but to bleed russia out, death by a thousand cuts, all with our lives.

    Deiskos ,

    rant (cont.)

    I can even understand unwillingness to give ATACMS, you don’t have a lot of them and need them all to fight Mexican drug cartels or whatever you would use ballistic missiles for in 2023.

    You don’t even use f16 anymore, and just sold some to Vietnam recently.

    There’s at least few hundreds Abrams tanks sitting in the desert in dry storage. But no, 31 is all we get.

    And the total clownery of political debate where at least two candidates build their platform on being friends with russia and china and stopping all support to Ukraine.

    And the total clownery of passing a lend lease act in 2022 and then not using it - trusting Ukraine to win so as to not burden us with returning leased hardware, but not trusting enough to give enough to win.

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  • RedAggroBest ,

    Straight into that false dichotomy. Pessimism isn’t a straight in to critical thinking. I’d say a pessimist is doing the exact opposite really. By not even wanting to try and think of a positive situation they’re going full head in the sand instead of working to fix problems.

    set_secret ,

    but there well be a brief period where we can swim in late autumn and early spring. so won’t that be nice.

    LurkNoMore ,

    No, I’m banking on the younger generations coming out of the woodwork. They’ve dealt with so much and really hoping they realize their vote could really send these dinosaurs into extinction.

    gsfraley ,

    I agree, I have some hope as common folk get more and more tuned in, especially as obscure runs like the Wisconsin Supreme Court judgeship and votes against the Ohio constitutional amendment process change result in overwhelming positive outcomes.

    Hoomod ,

    Taylor Swift seems to be doing a good job with that.

    Didn’t she get like 150k people to register in a day with an Instagram story or something

    puppy ,

    Register where? What’s the story?

    uskok ,

    Register to vote. Americans have to register or they cannot vote.

    puppy ,

    Ah ok. Didn’t know she did that. Kudos to her.

    bitsplease ,

    The fact that Republicans are already going after her about it shows how scared they are of the impact Gen Z is going to have in 2024

    RealFknNito ,
    @RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

    Incredible. He bought Twitter just to turn it into Truth Social.

    JonEFive , (edited )

    That’s been apparent since about a month or two after the sale was final. One of the very first things he did was invite Trump back

    Buddahriffic ,

    It should have been obvious before the deal even went through. The regulator position on that was fucked, focusing on “you made an offer, can’t back out now!” instead of how bad it would be for a billionaire to take Twitter private.

    JonEFive ,

    It was either that or let Musk get away with stock market manipulation. Hard to tell which is worse at this point but I personally think him losing billions of dollars of investor money will hopefully cause then to think twice about giving him money in the future. That is, if Trump loses in 2024.

    I have a growing suspicion that the goal was to intentionally delegitimize Twitter to the extent that one of the major social networks becomes an unmitigated misinformation factory - moreso than it was before. That seems like something billionaire investors might be willing to dump some serious cash into.

    some_guy ,

    Fucking hate this man.

    prole ,

    🤡

    RememberTheApollo_ ,

    Funny that the worse the Republicans are doing the more some people want to take the filters off of social media.

    A_Random_Idiot ,

    Right Wingers have always gotten preferential treatment and soft touch moderation on social media, because…

    1. Their user base is fucking morons who click every ad, and buy tons of stupid shit (specially if it has their team name on it) bringing in disproportionate income
    2. They know the bulk of their moderation problems are from Right wingers, and don’t want to look biased and drive them away by holding them to the same standard they hold everyone else, So they just let the right wingers get away with shit that would get cracked down and account bans handed out for anyone else.
    3. Their own algorithms have been proven to amplify right wing tweets, thus making it easier to find hate messages than it is to find anything else, because they are in bed with the right.
    fubo ,

    The commercial platforms had a dilemma: (1) They had existing policies against hate propaganda, incitement of violence, and harassment. (2) They wanted to seem at least mostly neutral on matters of partisan politics. And then (3) happened: one of the major parties started doing a lot of hate propaganda, incitement of violence, and harassment.

    If Facebook, Twitter, etc. had been following their own stated policies, they would have taken down Trump much earlier. However, those policies were never obligations enforceable against the platform, and would have required those platform companies to explicitly state that they were taking down one of the major parties for not following the platform’s rules on hate, violence, and harassment.

    Eventually, advertisers communicated with their dollars, that they were not seeing a benefit to their brands from having their ads appear beside the increasingly deranged, criminal, and traitorous Trump.

    HowManyNimons ,

    Maybe that was the plan all along.

    1. Turn Twitter into a turd soup
    2. Educated people who don’t click ads stop using Twitter
    3. Save unproductive bandwidth

    By quitting twitter I’ve gone along with Musk’s plan. Damn it.

    A_Random_Idiot ,

    Musk isnt that smart.

    Besides, a lot of those big advertisers don’t mind advertising to racists/fashies/terrorists, as long as they have the plausible deniability of “Oh, we advertise on twitter, it has a vibrant user base, lets not let the unsavory types ruin it for everyone”.

    A deniability that goes away now that its been bought by a fashy white supremacist who is actively purging the site of anyone critical to fashy white supremacism.

    No one but scummy companies like MyPillow and some asshole selling “gold” trump coins (totally legal tender!*) want to advertise to the creme of that crop.

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    HowManyNimons ,

    I’m gratified that you thought my dumb idea was smart…

    Willy , (edited )

    This American Life had a good segment about a content moderator at Twitter

    www.thisamericanlife.org/797/…/act-two-7

    Like the main content moderator who quit.

    Note it’s 30+minutes and takes a little while to get to Twitter, but it includes reported interactions with Musk.

    It talks about the election group of moderators.

    whofearsthenight ,

    This week’s On with Kara Swisher has back to back interviews with Yoel Roth (the guy in the TAL ep) and the new CEO of Twitter, Linda Yaccarino and it’s worth a listen.

    The juxtaposition of the two interviews is something. Roth comes across as a smart, serious person trying to (and admittedly sometimes failing) be a good steward of the internet and tackles the challenges using facts and data. Yaccarino follows up by literally being the definition of a stooge. Very clearly not attached to reality, doesn’t know things that Musk has tweeted in spite of saying at the top of the interview they’re 100% attached and in the loop with everything Elon’s doing. Absolute clown show.

    So yeah, expect literally everyone to have a hand in the cookie jar come the '24 election. There isn’t enough competence in the company to fill a thimble at this point, and leadership at the company probably is either entirely ignorant of the problem(Yacco), or actively engaging in sabotage in tandem (Musk.)

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