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dogslayeggs ,

This is capitalism 101: whatever makes the most money is what they support. It doesn’t matter who is hurt (or not hurt), or what is right/wrong. As long as they can make more money than they are losing by lawsuits, they will keep doing this. If they can avoid doing anything at all and not get sued while getting paid by customers, that’s even better.

BossDj ,

Can’t wait to find out which industry benefits the SCOTUS justices more.

Max_P ,
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Meanwhile, VPN providers be like “come on download stuff 😉😉😉”, wouldn’t that be a much easier case for them to prove willful disregard for piracy?

RickRussell_CA ,
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Yeah, but ISPs are rich and VPN providers are not. The most recent numbers I can find for Cox (2020) show $12.6 billion in revenue.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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A day is going to come when the VPNs are going to be targeted for regulation.

It’s only a matter of time before someone shoots up a school with a 3D printed gun or Epstein’s a terabyte of child porn to a Senator’s office or some other silly bullshit, and then VPNs will become the whipping boy for our litany of problems.

uriel238 ,
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In autocratic states where VPNs are blocked, they use VPNs that are harder to detect. So by the time they decide to criminalize VPN use in the free (read slightly less un-free) world, we’ll still have a cornucopia of options.

It’s like FBI trying to ban encryption or get it regulated when we already have encryption technology that is deniable.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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n autocratic states where VPNs are blocked, they use VPNs that are harder to detect

Paying for the VPN that’s harder to detect with my credit card which is very easy to detect.

It’s like FBI trying to ban encryption

aclu.org/…/the-fbi-is-secretly-breaking-into-encr…

Devices are already riddled with backdoors imposed by federal authorities. The only real way to avoid them is to obtain a device not designed or assembled within the NATO block.

Incidentally, import of these devices has become increasingly difficult, on the grounds that these devices may have backdoors implemented by foreign governments.

djsoren19 ,

In case you weren’t aware, it’s actually pretty easy to pay for a VPN in unmarked funds. Most will allow for BTC transactions, but some VPNs will even allow you to use giftcards for a place like Target.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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Most will allow for BTC transactions

This is the dumb guy panacea for committing every financial crime. You’d never even know the block chain is a public ledger.

Alk ,

Mullvad even lets you send them an envelope with cash in it, with no identifying info other than your account number.

KillingTimeItself ,

Devices are already riddled with backdoors imposed by federal authorities. The only real way to avoid them is to obtain a device not designed or assembled within the NATO block.

this smells distinctly russian for some reason, anyway, just use open source software and hardware, the protection net while not perfect, is entirely open, and theoretically, capable of perfect safety.

MigratingtoLemmy ,

Time to get on it privacy coin bandwagon

ShepherdPie ,

Considering how many corporations rely on VPNs for their workers, I don’t think this would gain much traction.

uriel238 ,
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Well,

a) even the labels and studios pirate stuff that isn’t theirs. They don’t really believe what they preach.

b) All that content they produce involves unethical treatment of the actual creators and technical staff who are under-compensated, and often lose all rights to their own creative work. and

c) regional blocks are just marketing bullshit, and is the primary thing VPNs advertise they’ll circumvent for you.

LodeMike ,

Can you elaborate on point a?

greenskye ,

Famously the music for that famous ‘you wouldn’t download a car’ anti piracy disclaimer was stolen and used without permission from the creator.

LodeMike ,

I’ll look that up

LodeMike ,
Thekingoflorda ,
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They’re 100% only doing this for money, but still, nice to see them in the right for once.

Godort ,

Sometimes people do the right thing for the wrong reasons.

snooggums ,
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xavier666 ,

Something something broken clock

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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A lot of it is the sheer bureaucracy of chasing down actual pirates and weeding them from people who just happen to be on the same IP address.

If one guy visiting an apartment block downloads a torrent from a public connection, what is ATT supposed to do? Shut down Internet to the entire building?

This is an undue burden for ISPs, even if the content isn’t living in a gray zone of legality.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

Yeah IP owners really want to have all the benefits of ownership with none of the drawbacks. After lobbying for and receiving a blank check to be able to rent seek indefinitely, they are constantly acting to outsource any cost of detection and enforcement of “their” property. Disgusting how goddamn entitled they are.

primrosepathspeedrun ,

this is why everyone should pirate literally anything they can, even if they don’t particularly want it.

er, with a few very gross exceptions that shouldn’t exist.

blanketswithsmallpox ,

… IP addresses are assigned to modems… They don’t assign IP addresses to… Cables going to buildings I guess lol but ok.

And if you’re in some fucked up place that has the entire apartment complex’s internet going to one modem, then God save your soul.

dumbass ,
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Ohh for sure, they know that if they get rid of the pirates, they’d lose half their customer base and will struggle to pay the CEOs bonus.

sibannac ,

If you disconnect them you can charge them fees

umbrella ,
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something something broken clock

gedaliyah ,
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I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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