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Vespair ,

It’s really simple: There are a number of use cases where generative AI is a legitimate boon. But there are countless more use cases where AI is unnecessary and provides nothing but bloat, maybe novelty at best.

Generative AI is neither the harbinger or doom, nor the savior of humanity. It’s a tool. Just a tool. We’re just caught in this weird moment where people are acting like it’s an all-encompassing multipurpose tool right now instead of understanding it as the limited use specific tool it actually is.

kent_eh ,

It’s a tool. Just a tool.

And, more often than not, it’s a poorly implemented tool that didn’t need to be added to the product in the first place.

Vespair ,

Yes, that was literally my point. A plumbing wrench is a perfectly useful and wonderful tool, but it isn’t going to be much help in the middle of brain surgery. Tools have use cases; they can’t be applied to any situation

qx128 ,

I can attest this is true for me. I was shopping for a new clothes washer, and was strongly considering an LG until I saw it had “AI wash”. I can see relevance for AI in some places, but washing clothes is NOT one of them. It gave me the feeling LG clothes washer division is full of shit.

Bought a SpeedQueen instead and been super happy with it. No AI bullshit anywhere in their product info.

PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

Honestly, +1 for SpeedQueen. That’s the brand that every laundromat uses, because they’re basically the Crown Vic of washers; They’re uglier than sin, but they’ll run for literal decades with very little maintenance. They do exactly one thing, (clean your clothes), and they do that one thing very well. They’re the “somehow my grandma’s appliances still work 70 years later, while mine all break after three years" of washing machines.

SpeedQueen doesn’t have any of the modern bells or whistles… But that also means there’s nothing to break prematurely and turn the washer into the world’s largest paperweight. Samsung washers, for instance, have infamously shitty LCD panels, which are notorious for dying right after the warranty expires. And when it dies, the entire washer is dead until you replace basically the entire control interface. SpeedQueen doesn’t have this issue, because they don’t even have LCD panels; everything is just physical knobs and buttons. If something ever does break, it’s just a mechanical switch that you can swap out in 15 minutes with a YouTube tutorial.

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

FYI, all current Speed Queen models except the Classic Series dryer (DC5, not the washer) are electronically controlled. Even the ones with knobs. They are not mechanical and no longer use the oldschool sequencing drums.

The TR7/DR7 are at least still sold with a 7 year manufacturer’s warranty, though. This is specifically to assuage consumer fears about the electronic control panel.

smeenz ,

I doubt there’s any actual AI in the LG product, it’s just a marketing buzzword like they used to use the term ‘smartwash’

kent_eh ,

Much like all the companies who used to market their headphones as “MP3 compatible”.

It’s just more marketing nonsense.

bane_killgrind ,

Sound compatible, fully electric

BigDanishGuy ,

Yes! A washer doesn’t need AI or wifi. It needs power, water, detergent and dirty laundry. Had a guest the other day pull out their phone and go Oh my dish washer is out of surfactant. Why the fuck do you need to know that, when you’re 20min away by car?

I will pay more if an appliance isn’t internet connected.

Pantsofmagic ,

Speed Queen for the win. I recently replaced a couple of trusty machines that had finally given up after decades of abuse. Went for speed queen, no regrets.

jwt ,

For me, if a company fails to make a clear cut case about why a product of theirs needs AI, I’m gonna assume they just want to misuse AI to cheaply deliver a mediocre product instead of putting in the necessary cost of manhours.

Verserk ,
@Verserk@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

More like people know when it’s just being used as a buzzword and are smart to avoid when that’s (often) the case

ATDA ,

To me AI helps me bang out small functions and classes for personal projects and act as a Google alternative for mundane stuff.

Other than that any product that uses it is no different than a digital assistant asking chat gpt to do things. Or at least that seems like the perception from a consumer level.

Besides it’s bad enough I probably use a homes energy trying to make failing programming demos much less ordering pizza from my watch or whatever.

x3x3 ,

My fridge has AI

absGeekNZ ,
@absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz avatar

I was at the optometrist recently and saw a poser for some lenses (transitions) that somehow had “AI”…I was like WTF how / why / do you need to carry a small supercomputer around with you as well.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

It’s because consumers aren’t the dumbasses these companies think they are and we all know that the AI being shoved into everything fucking sucks worse than the systems we had before “AI.”

buddascrayon ,

Honestly AI is the 3D glasses of consumer products and computing. There are a couple of places and applications where it absolutely improves things, everywhere else it’s just an overhyped extra that they tack on in hopes that it will drive up interest.

sevan ,

I’ve been applying similar thinking to my job search. When I see AI listed in a job description, I immediately put the company into one of 3 categories:

  1. It is an AI company that may go out of business suddenly within the next few years leaving me unemployed and possibly without any severance.
  2. Management has drank the Kool-Aid and is hoping AI will drive their profit growth, which makes me question management competence. This also has a high likelihood of future job loss, but at least they might pay severance.
  3. The buzzword was tossed in to make the company look good to investors, but it is not highly relevant to their business. These companies get a partial pass for me.

A company in the first two categories would need to pay a lot to entice me and I would not value their equity offering. The third category is understandable, especially if the success of AI would threaten their business.

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

Lets see if this finally kills the AI hype. Big tech is pushing for AI because it is the ultimate spyware, nothing more.

Melvin_Ferd ,

Nothing more? Usually the incentive is that it’s something worth giving info for.

xinayder ,

Yet companies are manipulating survey results to justify the FOMO jump to AI bandwagon. I don’t know where companies get the info that people want AI (looking at you Proton).

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

“AI” is certainly a turn-off for me, I would ask a salesman “do you have one that doesn’t have that?” and I will now enumerate why:

  1. LLMs are wrongness machines. They do have an almost miraculous ability to string words together to form coherent sentences but when they have no basis at all in truth it’s nothing but an extremely elaborate and expensive party trick. I don’t want actual services like web searches replaced with elaborate party tricks.
  2. In a lot of cases it’s being used as a buzzword to mean basically anything computer controlled or networked. Last time I looked up they were using the word “smart” to mean that. A clothes dryer that can sense the humidity of the exhaust air to know when the clothes are dry isn’t any more “AI” than my 90’s microwave that can sense the puff of steam from a bag of popcorn. This is the kind of outright dishonest marketing I’d like to see fail so spectacularly that people in the advertising business go missing over it.
  3. I already avoided “smart” appliances and will avoid “AI” appliances for the same reasons: The “smart” functionality doesn’t actually run locally, it has to connect to a server out on the internet to work, which means that while that server is still up and offering support to my device, I have a hole in my firewall. And then they’ll stop support ten minutes after the warranty expires and the device will no longer work. For many of these devices there’s no reason the “smart” functionality couldn’t run locally on some embedded ARM chip or talk to some application running on a PC that I own inside my firewall, other than “then we don’t get your data.”
  4. AI is apparently consuming more electricity than air conditioning. In fact, I’m not convinced that power consumption isn’t the selling point they’re pushing at board meetings. “It’ll keep our friends in the pollution industry in business.”
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