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Juice ,

Okay but have you considered shoving AI down the throats of consumers and forcing them to use it? I say invest in more gigantic server farms!

altima_neo ,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

I don’t know anyone who is actively looking for products that have “AI”.

It’s like companies drank their own Kool aid and think because they want AI, so do the consumers. I have no need for AI. My parents don’t even understand what it is. I can’t imagine Gen Z gives a hoot.

answersplease77 ,

I literally uninstalled and disabled every AI process and app in that latest galaxy AI update, which was the whole update btw. my reasons are:

1- privacy and data sharing.

2- the battery, cpu, ram of AI bloatware running in the background 247.

3- it was chaging and doing things which I didn’t want especially in the galary photo albums and camera AI modes.

squidspinachfootball ,

I was considering a new Samsung phone - is that baked into it? (Assuming you’re talking Samsung anyway, based on the galaxy name)

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Samsung is a nightmare, don’t purchase their products.

For example: I used to have a Samsung phone. If I plugged it into the USB port on my computer Windows Explorer would not be able to see it to transfer files. My phone would tell me I need to download Samsung’s drivers to transfer files. I could only get them by downloading Samsung’s software. Once I installed the software Windows Explorer was able to see the device and transfer files. Once I uninstalled the software Windows Explorer couldn’t see the device again.

Anything Samsung can do in your region to insert themselves between you and what you are trying to do they will do.

nobleshift ,
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

2nd this. Samsung is for people who hate themselves but can’t commit to ending it all.

flambonkscious ,

This is a great summary I’m going to make use of

Wintex ,

To give you a second opinion from the other guy, I’ve had quite a few Samsungs in a row at this point. From Galaxy S2 to S23Ultra skipping years between every purchase.

They are effectively the premium vendor of Android, at least for western audiences. The midrange has some good ones, but other companies do well there too. At the high end, Samsung might lose out a bit to google on images of people, but the phones Samsung sell are well built, have a long support life, have lots of features that usually end up being imported to AOSP and/or Google’s own version of Android. The last few generations are the Apple of Android. The AI features they’ve added can be run on device if you want, and idk what the other guy is talking about, but the AI features aren’t that obnoxiously pushed on my device, the S23 Ultra. I have some things on, most things off. Then again, I’ve used HTC for a few years and iPhone for two weeks, so except for helping my dad with his Pixel 6a while that device lasted, I’ve not really tried other brands. The added customization on Samsung is kind of a problem for me, because I don’t feel like changing brands after being able to customize so much out of the box.

And I’ve never had issues connecting to a simple Windows computer, given that the phone has always been able to use the normal Plug-and-play driver that is there already. If you have a macbook like I do, it’s a bit cringe, but that’s a macbook issue moreso.

FatCrab ,

I’ll second this experience. Pricing aside (and even then, because of their new recycling policy, I was able to replace an old galaxy nearly the size of a tablet with a new flip-- that has VERY surprisingly become my favorite phone I’ve ever owned-- for like a hundred bucks), I’ve never had complaints about my Samsung phone and wearables that weren’t general to all smartphones. And the easy integrations between my watch, phone, and earbuds, all Samsung, is really great.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

the Apple of Android

And here I thought I was being critical of them.

You are right of course, Samsung is very much like Apple. And if you don’t care about a company trying to lock you into their software, inserting themselves in between everything you’re trying to do, and denying you control over your own device, then I’m sure it works just fine.

time_fo_that ,

Did it help with battery life? My S24U has not been getting the greatest battery life lately and I wonder if this is why.

answersplease77 ,

I don’t know about the AI stuff specifically. Check your battery usage to see which process is doing that. but yes debloating in general makes your phone battery longer, and with the help of few more tricks also faster. There are thousands of no-root-required debloating tutorials online.

Squizzy ,

For the first time in years I thought about buying a new phone. The S23 Ultra, the previous versions had been improving significantly but the price was a factor. Then I got a promotion and figured I would splurge, the S24 Ultra, but it was all aout AI so I just stayed where I am…it does everything anyway.

pastermil ,

Glad to hear I’m not the only one!

NidoranDuran ,
@NidoranDuran@kbin.run avatar

Every company that has been trying to push their shiny, new AI feature (which definitely isn't part of a rush to try and capitalize on the prevalence of AI), my instant response is: "Yeah, no, I'm finding a way to turn this shit off."

Masamune ,

My response is even harsher…“Yeah, no, I’m finding a way to never use this company’s services ever again.” Easier said than done, but I don’t even want to associate with places that shove this in my face.

x00z ,
@x00z@lemmy.world avatar

Well, maybe if they weren’t using AI as a hypeword and just called it adaptive or GPT.

nobleshift ,
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

In Defence of AI web search from my experiences:

When I have no idea what I am talking about, have no or incorrect terminology, I have found Copilot and GPT4 (separate not the all-in-one) to be game changing compared to flat Google.

I’m not using the data straight off the query result, but the links to the data that was provided in the result.

And embarrassingly, when I’m drunk and babbling into a microphone, Copilot finds the links to what I am looking for.

Now if you are just straight using the results and not researching the answers your mileage will vary.

AnyOldName3 ,
@AnyOldName3@lemmy.world avatar

Is that enough to mitigate how much worse bare Google is than it was ten years ago, back when they were winning against SEO bots? In my experience, it hasn’t been, but I’ve not done enough AI-aided web searches to have a good sample size.

teamevil ,

I absolutely hate having to scroll past garbage AI answers I don’t care to see, nor would I trust

Pilferjinx ,

I trust AI replies less than a quick search. It has it’s uses but you have to learn it’s limitations.

teamevil ,

You trust it more than me

VinnyDaCat ,

Even if AI was absolutely impeccable it will always feel better to use products that involve real human beings.

Emmie , (edited )

I have just read the features of iOS 18.1 Apple intelligence so called.
TLDR: typing and sending messages for you mostly like one click reply to email. Or… shifting text tone 🙄

So that confirms my fears that in the future bots will communicate with each other instead of us. Which is madness. I want to talk to a real human and not a bot that translates what the human wanted to say approximately around 75% accuracy devoid of any authenticity

If I see someone’s unfiltered written word I can infer their emotions, feelings what kind of state they are in etc. Cold bot to bot speech would truly fuck up society in unpredictable ways undermining fundaments of communication.

Especially if you notice that most communication, even familial already happens online nowadays. So kids will learn to just ‘hey siri tell my mom I am sorry and I will improve myself’.
Mom: ‘hey siri summarize message’

That could only raise psychopaths

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

So kids will learn to just ‘hey siri tell my mom I am sorry and I will improve myself’.

What makes you think that kids aren’t already doing things like this?

Also I saw a South Park episode about this. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Learning_(South_Park)

Emmie ,

It isn’t built-in in the very phone operating system where you just tap on generate response in the iMessage. It is always about laziness. First the privacy went away due to path of least effort even though you always had tons of privacy alternatives but they require just 10 seconds of extra effort

Omega_Jimes ,

My hope for the future relies on a study indicating that after 5 or so generations of training data tainted with AI generated information, the LLM models collapsed.

Hopefully, after enough LLMs have been fed LLM data, we will arrive in an LLM-free future.

<this is unlikely to come true but let me hope >

cellardoor ,

No shit Sherlock

Sibbo ,

So AMD’s “AI”-supporting CPUs are bound to flop now?

sibannac ,

We’re seeing a bunch of promises made when LLM were the novel hot shit. Now that we’ve plateaued on how useful they are to the average consumer every AI product is just a beta test that will drop support as soon as something newer and shinier comes along.

forrcaho ,

I’ve found ChatGPT somewhat useful, but not amazingly so. The thing about ChatGPT is, I understand what the tool is, and our interactions are well defined. When I get a bullshit answer, I have the context to realize it’s not working for me in this case and to go look elsewhere. When AI is built in to products in ways that you don’t clearly understand what parts are AI and how your interactions are fed to it; that’s absolutely and incurably horrible. You just have to reject the whole application; there is no other reasonable choice.

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