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x3x3 ,

My fridge has AI

ATDA ,

To me AI helps me bang out small functions and classes for personal projects and act as a Google alternative for mundane stuff.

Other than that any product that uses it is no different than a digital assistant asking chat gpt to do things. Or at least that seems like the perception from a consumer level.

Besides it’s bad enough I probably use a homes energy trying to make failing programming demos much less ordering pizza from my watch or whatever.

Verserk ,
@Verserk@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

More like people know when it’s just being used as a buzzword and are smart to avoid when that’s (often) the case

jwt ,

For me, if a company fails to make a clear cut case about why a product of theirs needs AI, I’m gonna assume they just want to misuse AI to cheaply deliver a mediocre product instead of putting in the necessary cost of manhours.

qx128 ,

I can attest this is true for me. I was shopping for a new clothes washer, and was strongly considering an LG until I saw it had “AI wash”. I can see relevance for AI in some places, but washing clothes is NOT one of them. It gave me the feeling LG clothes washer division is full of shit.

Bought a SpeedQueen instead and been super happy with it. No AI bullshit anywhere in their product info.

PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

Honestly, +1 for SpeedQueen. That’s the brand that every laundromat uses, because they’re basically the Crown Vic of washers; They’re uglier than sin, but they’ll run for literal decades with very little maintenance. They do exactly one thing, (clean your clothes), and they do that one thing very well. They’re the “somehow my grandma’s appliances still work 70 years later, while mine all break after three years" of washing machines.

SpeedQueen doesn’t have any of the modern bells or whistles… But that also means there’s nothing to break prematurely and turn the washer into the world’s largest paperweight. Samsung washers, for instance, have infamously shitty LCD panels, which are notorious for dying right after the warranty expires. And when it dies, the entire washer is dead until you replace basically the entire control interface. SpeedQueen doesn’t have this issue, because they don’t even have LCD panels; everything is just physical knobs and buttons. If something ever does break, it’s just a mechanical switch that you can swap out in 15 minutes with a YouTube tutorial.

smeenz ,

I doubt there’s any actual AI in the LG product, it’s just a marketing buzzword like they used to use the term ‘smartwash’

kent_eh ,

Much like all the companies who used to market their headphones as “MP3 compatible”.

It’s just more marketing nonsense.

BigDanishGuy ,

Yes! A washer doesn’t need AI or wifi. It needs power, water, detergent and dirty laundry. Had a guest the other day pull out their phone and go Oh my dish washer is out of surfactant. Why the fuck do you need to know that, when you’re 20min away by car?

I will pay more if an appliance isn’t internet connected.

Vespair ,

It’s really simple: There are a number of use cases where generative AI is a legitimate boon. But there are countless more use cases where AI is unnecessary and provides nothing but bloat, maybe novelty at best.

Generative AI is neither the harbinger or doom, nor the savior of humanity. It’s a tool. Just a tool. We’re just caught in this weird moment where people are acting like it’s an all-encompassing multipurpose tool right now instead of understanding it as the limited use specific tool it actually is.

kent_eh ,

It’s a tool. Just a tool.

And, more often than not, it’s a poorly implemented tool that didn’t need to be added to the product in the first place.

forrcaho ,

I’ve found ChatGPT somewhat useful, but not amazingly so. The thing about ChatGPT is, I understand what the tool is, and our interactions are well defined. When I get a bullshit answer, I have the context to realize it’s not working for me in this case and to go look elsewhere. When AI is built in to products in ways that you don’t clearly understand what parts are AI and how your interactions are fed to it; that’s absolutely and incurably horrible. You just have to reject the whole application; there is no other reasonable choice.

sibannac ,

We’re seeing a bunch of promises made when LLM were the novel hot shit. Now that we’ve plateaued on how useful they are to the average consumer every AI product is just a beta test that will drop support as soon as something newer and shinier comes along.

Sibbo ,

So AMD’s “AI”-supporting CPUs are bound to flop now?

cellardoor ,

No shit Sherlock

Emmie , (edited )

I have just read the features of iOS 18.1 Apple intelligence so called.
TLDR: typing and sending messages for you mostly like one click reply to email. Or… shifting text tone 🙄

So that confirms my fears that in the future bots will communicate with each other instead of us. Which is madness. I want to talk to a real human and not a bot that translates what the human wanted to say approximately around 75% accuracy devoid of any authenticity

If I see someone’s unfiltered written word I can infer their emotions, feelings what kind of state they are in etc. Cold bot to bot speech would truly fuck up society in unpredictable ways undermining fundaments of communication.

Especially if you notice that most communication, even familial already happens online nowadays. So kids will learn to just ‘hey siri tell my mom I am sorry and I will improve myself’.
Mom: ‘hey siri summarize message’

That could only raise psychopaths

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

So kids will learn to just ‘hey siri tell my mom I am sorry and I will improve myself’.

What makes you think that kids aren’t already doing things like this?

Also I saw a South Park episode about this. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Learning_(South_Park)

Emmie ,

It isn’t built-in in the very phone operating system where you just tap on generate response in the iMessage. It is always about laziness. First the privacy went away due to path of least effort even though you always had tons of privacy alternatives but they require just 10 seconds of extra effort

Omega_Jimes ,

My hope for the future relies on a study indicating that after 5 or so generations of training data tainted with AI generated information, the LLM models collapsed.

Hopefully, after enough LLMs have been fed LLM data, we will arrive in an LLM-free future.

<this is unlikely to come true but let me hope >

VinnyDaCat ,

Even if AI was absolutely impeccable it will always feel better to use products that involve real human beings.

teamevil ,

I absolutely hate having to scroll past garbage AI answers I don’t care to see, nor would I trust

Pilferjinx ,

I trust AI replies less than a quick search. It has it’s uses but you have to learn it’s limitations.

teamevil ,

You trust it more than me

nobleshift ,
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

In Defence of AI web search from my experiences:

When I have no idea what I am talking about, have no or incorrect terminology, I have found Copilot and GPT4 (separate not the all-in-one) to be game changing compared to flat Google.

I’m not using the data straight off the query result, but the links to the data that was provided in the result.

And embarrassingly, when I’m drunk and babbling into a microphone, Copilot finds the links to what I am looking for.

Now if you are just straight using the results and not researching the answers your mileage will vary.

AnyOldName3 ,
@AnyOldName3@lemmy.world avatar

Is that enough to mitigate how much worse bare Google is than it was ten years ago, back when they were winning against SEO bots? In my experience, it hasn’t been, but I’ve not done enough AI-aided web searches to have a good sample size.

x00z ,
@x00z@lemmy.world avatar

Well, maybe if they weren’t using AI as a hypeword and just called it adaptive or GPT.

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