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MonkderDritte , (edited )

If they reversed it (displays inside), it would be the best immersive gaming setup ever.

Edit: looks like they are inside.

Tire ,

That’s what it is on the inside.

MonkderDritte ,

Wait, the article says it’s “internal displays” but the picture shows images on the outside of the globe?

Dozzi92 ,
@Dozzi92@lemmy.world avatar

It’s got both. It’s awesome. But it’s also owned by James Dolan, and he’s a douche. I say that as a big Rangers fan.

Highsight ,
@Highsight@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, it is both. Highly recommend this amazing video from Eddie Burbank about it, very entertaining. youtu.be/KN63DDD9Y04?si=q6gE98LszfcPzBvy

neidu2 , (edited )

Never heard of him nor the sphere before. Excellent video that explains the sphere, made by an excellent YouTuber.
Excellent recommendation!

extremeboredom ,

His entire channel is gold

ours ,

Hi is willing to commit to suffer so much for the most stupid and hilarious of quests like eating at every Margaritaville in the continental US. What a legend.

Jarix ,

The article says

Those GPUs power 16 internal displays, each with a resolution of 16K, alongside 1.2 million programmable LED pucks coating the exterior of the sphere.

Did you literally stop reading mid sentence? Or are you just not able to read good?

MonkderDritte ,

“internal displays” could mean whatever. They’re embedded for example.

Jarix ,

So not read good. Thanks

n3m37h ,

Except it has the worst pixel density ever

Jarix , (edited )

9.818127340823 should be the pixel density if my numbers are correct.

The numbers i was able to find(please correct if these numbers are not accurate)

160,000 sqft display converted to inches 23040000 sq/inch

16K x 16K resolution equals 15360 pixels x 15360 pixels So thats 235,929,600 pixels

Various Notes.

  • a 55-inch 4K television, which has a pixel density of only 80.11ppi
  • iphone 12 - 360ppi
  • 14,000ppi MicroLED display is world’s densest, only 0.48mm across june 2019 approximately the size of a ladybug
n3m37h ,

Thank you for confirming this, I’ll stick with my 109ppi 27" 1440p 165hz monitor

Jarix ,

Not even close to the worst pixel per inch though. That would be probably a drone array in the sky im guessing assuming they could be made to stay perfectly in sync, ppi could be as bad as you wanted it lol. This does make me wonder what the extreme limits of ppi can be and still be usable. You would probably need to be on the moon or in space to be in the ideal viewing position. Having to acount for the limitation of the speed of light to produce the picture on that “display” would be an impressive feat of engineering.

Did you really build a dyson sphere just to build a bigger tv? Yes yes i did

Pixel pitch takes into account viewing distance.

The displays in the sphere are 16K displays. They look insanely better than your monitor from the ideal spot in the venue.

Their display has 64x more pixels than yours.

n3m37h ,

Silence! I will hear none of this blasphemy! Fallout 76 does not have 16x the detail!

razorwiregoatlick ,
@razorwiregoatlick@lemmy.world avatar

It would be impressive it could be done without destroying our planet. This should impress no one.

Uruanna ,

A bomb that could destroy Earth’s core would be an admittedly impressive technical feat!

Grippler ,

Nono, the bombs starts the earths core

CaliforniaSober ,

WAVE PROPIGATION

ours ,

The Core appreciators… UNITE!

AeonFelis ,

That article gets stuck so much and makes my (relatively high end) laptop’s fan scream so hard you’d think the website was designed for that kind of hardware.

Tattorack ,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Wouldn’t just one GPU be enough to run the Sphere, or a I getting something wrong?

I remember hearing about that it’s not exactly high resolution, each “pixel” being a bunch of pretty large lamps.

ilinamorato , (edited )

Wikipedia says it’s 16,000x16,000 (which is way less than I thought). The way the math works, that’s 16x as big as a 4k monitor, so 16 GPUs would make sense. And there’s a screen inside and one outside, so double that. But I also can’t figure out why it needs five times that. Redundancy? Poor optimization? I dunno.

Tattorack ,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

But wouldn’t that be only necessary if it needed to render real-time graphics at such a scale? If I’m correct, all its doing is playing back videos.

st14 ,

Live audio visualization in game engines is definitely a thing ex. youtu.be/IZL7VAt97ws?si=H74SwrLZYfsYNTY8

stormeuh ,

Even if it’s just playing back videos, it still should compensate for the distortion of the spherical display. That’s a “simple” 3d transformation, but with the amount of pixels, coordinating between the GPUs and some redundancy, it doesn’t seem like an excessive amount of computing power. The whole thing is still an impressive excess though…

ilinamorato ,

I think it’s doing some non-trivial amount of rendering, since it’s often syncing graphics with music played live.

Anyolduser ,

I’m guessing it’s the department of redundancy department, is my guess.

ilinamorato ,

Someone elsewhere in the thread suggested it might be a marketing thing on Nvidia’s part, and that makes a lot of sense.

markpaskal ,

I work for a digital display company, and it is definitely redundancy. There will be at least two redundant display systems that go to the modules separately so they can switch between them to solve issues. If a component fails on one side they just switch to the other.

ilinamorato ,

Ah, nice. Thank you for bringing your expertise to my nonsense.

umbraroze ,

The way I think it, it’s possible a really small number of GPUs would be enough to render the framebuffer, you’d just need an army of low-power graphics units to receive the data and render it on screens.

Having a high-power GPU for every screen is definitely a loss unless the render job is distributed really well and there’s also people around to admire the results at the distance where the pixel differences no longer matter. Which is to say, not here.

geography082 ,

Useless

Usernameblankface ,
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

Ok, so it’s “capable of drawing” enough power for 20,000 homes in the area. How much does it actually use day to day? Does it dim at night and brighten in the daytime to keep those ads rolling in the sunshine?

Iloveyurianime ,

I guess they dont need to pay for heating when you have a bunch of high power computers pumping out a crap ton of heat

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

It also helps that it’s in Las Vegas.

ours ,

Those displays must dump a ton more of heat.

Dadifer ,

That pretty much describes all of Vegas.

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

And unless it displays a picture of Mr. House it’s all for naught

PenisWenisGenius ,

In 2030 this will just be the standard system requirements for AAA games because optimization is hard.

redditReallySucks ,
@redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

because optimization is hard costs money and they dont have enough from the 60 USD you paid

drunkpostdisaster ,

70*

redditReallySucks ,
@redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Right, forgot AAAA was the new norm

ILikeBoobies ,

At every stage of it’s life cycle; the Sphere has been the dumbest thing imaginable

And because some rich people got scammed into buying in now everyone has to advertise it

SunDevil ,

“Capable of drawing 28,000,000 watts of power” doesn’t tell us anything. As was noted, it should’ve been given in megawatts (28 mW) or kilowatts (28,000 kW). Clickbait aside, how many kilowatt-hours (kWh) does it actually use?

28 mW isn’t that much energy, relatively speaking. As of 2015, Forbes estimated LV uses 8000 mW on an average summer day.

The potential is impressive. I doubt it pulls anywhere near that. Unless I did my math wrong, this seems sensationalist.

Gsus4 , (edited )
@Gsus4@programming.dev avatar

I don’t get it, are they implying that each GPU can draw 200kW? a home is like 10 max. Wtf is a gpu that can consume more power than 20 homes? Mine at home draws peak 300W…

Each of those GPUs feature over 10,752 cores, 48 GB of memory and have a 300 W TDP, for a grand total of 1,612,800 cores, 7,200 GB of GDDR6 memory, and a potential maximum power draw of 45,000 W at full tilt (via Wccftech).

ok, monster gpus, got it.

Zeoic ,

Just Fyi, mW is milliwatts, and MW is megawatts. Agreed though, I doubt it draws that much day to day.

SunDevil ,

Thank you, I stand corrected!

xthexder ,
@xthexder@l.sw0.com avatar

So how is the total power over 500x that of the GPU power? If it’s all LEDs, that thing must get brighter than the damn sun.

Jackfinished ,

Funny enough you can barely see it during the day

gianni ,

We need more nuclear power ASAP

ashok36 ,

Vegas is almost entirely powered by the hoover dam. It’s already pretty green as far as energy goes. The question will be where do they get their power from in a few years when lake mead dries up.

HandwovenConsensus ,

That’s not true. The Hoover Dam contributes to Vegas’s power supply, but it’s nowhere near “almost entirely powered” by the dam, except in Fallout: New Vegas.

ashok36 ,

Turns out you’re correct. I appreciate the correction.

vaultdweller013 ,

Fallout: New Vegas is powered by my ever dwindling sanity. I am currently trying to get my mods to play nice.

Also its implied ingame that only the strip is powered by the damn dam and that Freeside and West Vegas get either limited or no power, hence why directing the electricity from Helios One to the area is such a big deal.

Soggy ,

In addition to the other thing, dams have a dramatic and disastrous impact on the ecology in the immediate area and the entire riparian system they connect to. It’s “green” in terms of emissions but they’re still harmful and we should be phasing them out for lower impact alternatives as much as possible.

rogue_scholar ,

Should? Definitely, but let’s be realistic, we can barely get people off of coal and oil right now.

In the world we live in, Dams have some of the lowest environmental impact compared to the other places we get our energy.

So we probably shouldn’t be trying to phase them out while there are much more severe effects being felt from the other base load facilities.

frezik ,

There’s no such thing as “ASAP” for nuclear power. If you had the permits signed off today, it would take 10 years before a single GWh of new nuclear energy goes to the grid.

Instead, maybe we shouldn’t build giant spherical advertising displays?

GamingChairModel ,

There’s no such thing as “ASAP” for nuclear power

Sure there is. It’s just that the P stands for “20 years from now.”

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