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SuperFola ,
@SuperFola@programming.dev avatar

Shame

MonkderDritte , (edited )

If they reversed it (displays inside), it would be the best immersive gaming setup ever.

Edit: looks like they are inside.

Tire ,

That’s what it is on the inside.

MonkderDritte ,

Wait, the article says it’s “internal displays” but the picture shows images on the outside of the globe?

Dozzi92 ,
@Dozzi92@lemmy.world avatar

It’s got both. It’s awesome. But it’s also owned by James Dolan, and he’s a douche. I say that as a big Rangers fan.

Highsight ,
@Highsight@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, it is both. Highly recommend this amazing video from Eddie Burbank about it, very entertaining. youtu.be/KN63DDD9Y04?si=q6gE98LszfcPzBvy

neidu2 , (edited )

Never heard of him nor the sphere before. Excellent video that explains the sphere, made by an excellent YouTuber.
Excellent recommendation!

extremeboredom ,

His entire channel is gold

ours ,

Hi is willing to commit to suffer so much for the most stupid and hilarious of quests like eating at every Margaritaville in the continental US. What a legend.

Jarix ,

The article says

Those GPUs power 16 internal displays, each with a resolution of 16K, alongside 1.2 million programmable LED pucks coating the exterior of the sphere.

Did you literally stop reading mid sentence? Or are you just not able to read good?

MonkderDritte ,

“internal displays” could mean whatever. They’re embedded for example.

Jarix ,

So not read good. Thanks

n3m37h ,

Except it has the worst pixel density ever

Jarix , (edited )

9.818127340823 should be the pixel density if my numbers are correct.

The numbers i was able to find(please correct if these numbers are not accurate)

160,000 sqft display converted to inches 23040000 sq/inch

16K x 16K resolution equals 15360 pixels x 15360 pixels So thats 235,929,600 pixels

Various Notes.

  • a 55-inch 4K television, which has a pixel density of only 80.11ppi
  • iphone 12 - 360ppi
  • 14,000ppi MicroLED display is world’s densest, only 0.48mm across june 2019 approximately the size of a ladybug
n3m37h ,

Thank you for confirming this, I’ll stick with my 109ppi 27" 1440p 165hz monitor

Jarix ,

Not even close to the worst pixel per inch though. That would be probably a drone array in the sky im guessing assuming they could be made to stay perfectly in sync, ppi could be as bad as you wanted it lol. This does make me wonder what the extreme limits of ppi can be and still be usable. You would probably need to be on the moon or in space to be in the ideal viewing position. Having to acount for the limitation of the speed of light to produce the picture on that “display” would be an impressive feat of engineering.

Did you really build a dyson sphere just to build a bigger tv? Yes yes i did

Pixel pitch takes into account viewing distance.

The displays in the sphere are 16K displays. They look insanely better than your monitor from the ideal spot in the venue.

Their display has 64x more pixels than yours.

n3m37h ,

Silence! I will hear none of this blasphemy! Fallout 76 does not have 16x the detail!

danc4498 ,

Currently, an agreement is under review to ensure that 70% of the Sphere’s power needs will come from solar sources, with the other 30% from non-renewable energy that will be offset by renewable energy credits.

Nevada has pledged to achieve net zero emissions of greenhouse gases by 2050, and the solar project under construction to help offset its energy debt is estimated to complete in 2027.

How stupid is it that somebody can claim “Net Zero” greenhouse gas emissions when 30% of their power is greenhouse gas.

Just gonna throw this out there. Fuck credits, charge a carbon tax.

capital ,

We’ll also ignore the fact that that solar could have been used to offset actual needs instead of this BS.

frezik ,

If only Las Vegas were located somewhere that the sun shines almost all day every day. \s

capital ,

And yet they still couldn’t cover the last 30%.

__Lost__ ,

That’s probably at night

capital ,

Regardless, that energy could be going to offset other energy currently being produced by non-renewables no matter which way you slice it.

Morphit ,
@Morphit@feddit.uk avatar

So build concentrated solar power and store the heat for after the sun sets. Bonus - thermal power plant turbines give inertia to the grid, which photo-voltaics don’t.

CommanderCloon ,

I highly doubt the operating hours of this ball of decadence match the time when solar power peaks

Usernameblankface ,
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

If only the creators of the ball had enough profit coming in to put up more solar panels and build up a battery bank for the night so they wouldn’t take anything from the grid…

duffman ,

Vegas exists because of the BS.

ILikeBoobies ,

The word net does a lot of heavy lifting and it’s just a scam

You can use 100% coal power and claim net zero by buying a forest

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Exactly. Carbon credits for the win! I love me some Pigouvian taxes. :)

w2tpmf ,

Well you don’t understand what “net” means.

It doesn’t mean literally zero. It means colunm A and column B average out to zero.

To acheive a real net zero, they have to save energy somewhere else that takes that column past 100% (Such as if their solar panels produce more energy than they use during certain times.)

They probably just make some shit up to say their are saving extra somewhere they aren’t (so to that point, yes…credits are bullshit.)

Sorgan71 ,

They never claimed net zero. They plan to achieve net zero by 2050

danc4498 ,

Yeah, that’s in the quote. I’m more complaining about the concept of “net zero”.

Usernameblankface ,
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe, I mean just maybe, they can run this thing only as long as the solar generated power lasts, and then turn it off 30% of the time.

danc4498 ,

Run it at 70% percent brightness.

Usernameblankface ,
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

Oooh, this is a good idea

NecroSocial ,

Fuck credits, charge a carbon tax.

IMO it seems RECs are a better solution than carbon taxes at least in situations like this. With RECs you’re buying renewable energy to offset non-renewables, with a carbon tax the company is just giving the government money for use of non-renewables. Only funds spent on RECs in this case actually go to supporting the renewable energy sector. I’m no expert in this stuff so I could be off, just how I understand it.

InvaderDJ ,

It’s funny, I think Vegas is perfectly fine as the city of sin so things like this really don’t phase me. It was built on the idea of crime and excess.

What does seem weird to me is how in a desert, why isn’t everything solar? The sun is their only natural resource besides sand. Every rooftop and parking lot and flat surface possible seems like it should be a panel.

aidan ,

Vegas is surrounded by empty desert, they don’t need to use rooftops and parking lots

fukurthumz420 ,

even deserts host life. it’s kind of a ecological misnomer that we could just cover the deserts of the world in solar panels. that would have serious repercussions.

JasonDJ ,

Also, the ocean is a desert with its life underground and the perfect disguise up above.

aidan ,

What repercussions could covering a few acres more in the mojave with solar panels have?

AutistoMephisto ,
@AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly if we could get space elevators figured out, the best place to put solar panels would be in the upper atmosphere. Tethered to the ground by massive columns that feed the energy they collect to massive capacitors on the ground?

fatalError ,

Solar only works during the day. During night you need batteries which are not renewable. Mining lithium trashes ecosystems and we probably have enough for like 50 more years at this rate, cobalt is extracted through slave labour. And we’ve seen how well recycling works for other materials which are less complex. So all these renewables aren’t all that green in every aspect. Unless we solve the energy storage problem it isn’t as simple as putting up more panels.

n3m37h ,

polarnightenergy.fi/sand-battery

Gormadt ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Sodium batteries (which are on the market now) are way more environmentally friendly than Lithium batteries.

The materials are very accessible by comparison to Lithium batteries and they’re way more stable.

frezik ,

You know, I’m getting really sick of these comments where people think they know what they’re talking about and repeat a bunch of talking points about lithium.

Lithium is not going to be the basis of a renewable grid. We need it for EVs because it’s the best Wh/kg that we have right now, but we don’t care so much about weight for grid storage. Cost/kg is the main measure we care about there (though there are some other considerations in specific conditions). We already have tech being deployed in the field that’s better than lithium for grid storage. Flow batteries, flywheels, pumped hydro, or just heating up sand or rocks. Others, like sodium batteries, are being manufactured and will probably find their way into real products in the next few years.

fatalError ,

Chill, no need to be stressed. Part of the ideas you mentioned are already implemented in some cases, but they are not without drawbacks. Pumped hydro is good, but has high maintainance costs, messes with the fish and requires large bodies of water, how do you get tbat in the desert? Flywheels have good inertia, great for stabilizing the grid, Ireland has some for that exact reason, but can’t store a whole lot. And heating up roxks and sand may work if you need heat at night, but you need electricity, so you need water to turn into steam to produce it. Sodium batteries look the most promising, we’ll see how they develop. But until we get these storqge facilities built, adding more solar would only destabilise the grids even more.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

So if you knew this which is a reasonable post why do you post the propaganda piece before?

fatalError ,

What propaganda? I think you have to go back and read my post once more… The thread started from solar panels in the desert. At the moment the most widely used grid storage is pumped hydro, how will you do that in the desert? Next most used tech RIGHT NOW is lithium batteries. Other solutions exist, but how many are there implemented and ready to capture that energy right now? Oh, not so many? Then putting up more solar panels hoping that one day we have the storage for them is foolish, these panles lose efficiency over time. I don’t have an agenda to spread, there is no propaganda, I am only talking about the an issue which exists, which is energy storage, for which we have some solutions, with their pros and cons, but not close to being implemented.

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

And unless it displays a picture of Mr. House it’s all for naught

ILikeBoobies ,

At every stage of it’s life cycle; the Sphere has been the dumbest thing imaginable

And because some rich people got scammed into buying in now everyone has to advertise it

razorwiregoatlick ,
@razorwiregoatlick@lemmy.world avatar

It would be impressive it could be done without destroying our planet. This should impress no one.

Dadifer ,

That pretty much describes all of Vegas.

z00s ,

Kinda feels like humanity is in the process of jumping the shark on this one

drunkpostdisaster ,

It’s the last season anyway

PenisWenisGenius ,

In 2030 this will just be the standard system requirements for AAA games because optimization is hard.

redditReallySucks ,
@redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

because optimization is hard costs money and they dont have enough from the 60 USD you paid

drunkpostdisaster ,

70*

redditReallySucks ,
@redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Right, forgot AAAA was the new norm

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

someone pay to put the Lemmy logo on it, i heard there was a way to pay for an image to show up

werefreeatlast ,

And a waste of electricity?

JackbyDev ,

I believe that’s implied in the “hubris” bit.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Its one of the smaller atrocities in Vegas, particularly when compared to the Bellagio Fountain or the food waste generated by all those casino dining halls.

chiliedogg ,

The fountains aren’t quite as wasteful as they seem. They use a lot of water compared to a house, but way less than some car washes.

CompostMaterial ,

Plus it is recycled. They would only replace what is lost due to evaporation or after a drain and cleaning.

BobGnarley ,

Yeah we should have never invented televisions or records either! And don’t even get me started on cell phones. Just waste waste waste.

Why, if it were up to me we would all still be hunting and gathering!

vaultdweller013 ,

Apples to oranges dude, this is for pure spectacle that wears off after five minutes. Plus any data gained from it was at the lab they prototyped it I believe in Burbank. This aint really a sign of progress, and itll be funny to see what happens to it when it inevitably breaks.

gianni ,

We need more nuclear power ASAP

ashok36 ,

Vegas is almost entirely powered by the hoover dam. It’s already pretty green as far as energy goes. The question will be where do they get their power from in a few years when lake mead dries up.

HandwovenConsensus ,

That’s not true. The Hoover Dam contributes to Vegas’s power supply, but it’s nowhere near “almost entirely powered” by the dam, except in Fallout: New Vegas.

ashok36 ,

Turns out you’re correct. I appreciate the correction.

vaultdweller013 ,

Fallout: New Vegas is powered by my ever dwindling sanity. I am currently trying to get my mods to play nice.

Also its implied ingame that only the strip is powered by the damn dam and that Freeside and West Vegas get either limited or no power, hence why directing the electricity from Helios One to the area is such a big deal.

Soggy ,

In addition to the other thing, dams have a dramatic and disastrous impact on the ecology in the immediate area and the entire riparian system they connect to. It’s “green” in terms of emissions but they’re still harmful and we should be phasing them out for lower impact alternatives as much as possible.

rogue_scholar ,

Should? Definitely, but let’s be realistic, we can barely get people off of coal and oil right now.

In the world we live in, Dams have some of the lowest environmental impact compared to the other places we get our energy.

So we probably shouldn’t be trying to phase them out while there are much more severe effects being felt from the other base load facilities.

frezik ,

There’s no such thing as “ASAP” for nuclear power. If you had the permits signed off today, it would take 10 years before a single GWh of new nuclear energy goes to the grid.

Instead, maybe we shouldn’t build giant spherical advertising displays?

GamingChairModel ,

There’s no such thing as “ASAP” for nuclear power

Sure there is. It’s just that the P stands for “20 years from now.”

AeonFelis ,

That article gets stuck so much and makes my (relatively high end) laptop’s fan scream so hard you’d think the website was designed for that kind of hardware.

drunkpostdisaster ,

Might as well just give up on the earth right now I guess

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