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KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

At some point I became upset he’s able to get this much action when he’s the worst fucking person on this planet.

gnutrino ,

Money is a hell of an aphrodisiac

Yawweee877h444 ,

I remember him bragging on Joe rogans shitty podcast saying he had been working 16hrs a day seven days a week for years. When does he have time to have all these kids

YarHarSuperstar ,
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world avatar

Spoiler alert: they’re secret for a reason. The reason is so he doesn’t have to deal with them.

foo ,

His idea of work is shit posting on Twitter

PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

Yup. He’s “working” 7 days a week but only doing like an hour or two of actual productive (if it can even be called that…) work. This is how a lot of C-level executives use weasel words to make themselves seem important.

They’ll show up to the office at 8AM, but they’ll say that they started “working” at 6AM because they woke up and had an idea while in the shower. Then they’ll play golf with their friends (“business associates”) in the morning and say they’re working. Then they’ll go to lunch with their affair partner (“potential client”) on their way back from golf, and say they’re working. Then they’ll sit in one meeting in the afternoon, where they don’t even do any actual work but do a lot of talking with a lot of buzzwords to sound important. And finally, they’ll leave the office early and talk online about what a hard worker they are for starting work at 6AM.

The “I work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week” stuff is all just capitalistic “we deserve to get paid more because we work hard to run the companies” propaganda.

WamGams ,

I think Kim Kardashian once claimed to work like 12 hours a day, but we can look through the footage, the act of filming to her means that lunch with her mother and riding a quad in Hawaii counts as labor.

jonne ,

I’m guessing banging your employees counts as work to this guy.

barsquid ,

Just narcissists lying about shit as usual.

GamingChairModel ,

Wait is he fucking them? I thought most of these children were born via IVF.

eris ,

If you met some these execs, you’d probably run in the opposite direction. They’re a weird bunch.

Bezzelbob ,
@Bezzelbob@lemmy.world avatar

Idk man, putin and kim jong-un seem arguably worse than the autistic Twitter guy

rem26_art ,
@rem26_art@fedia.io avatar

guy has 12 children and probably talks to none of them in any sort of meaningful way

sunzu ,

We know why he is doing this... He don't give a fuck...

But why are the women doing this? This kinda confirms a lot biases that loser cucks shill online tbh

Then everyone wonders why losers worship these clown daddies...

partial_accumen ,

But why are the women doing this?

Child support payments from one of the richest men on the planet probably aren’t small.

sunzu ,

And then we wonder why Andrew Tate has a following lol

"Why would my child need a dad, when I can get paid cash money!"

partial_accumen ,

Andrew Tate is also in a Romanian jail right now, if I’m not mistaken.

SkaveRat ,

I feel for the other inmates

Archer ,

That’s why we banned cruel and unusual punishment

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Its a shame Adin Ross didn’t join him. He could probably use the companionship. Also, it keeps Adin’s dumb ass off the internet.

TheFonz ,

Take Sneako too pls

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

Please, do not even pretend that a human trafficking serial rapist gives a shit about “the role of fathers in a child’s life”

sunzu ,

Does he have to give a shit beyond pretend?

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

He is a human trafficking serial rapist. End of story. Anything else is just spewing his own propaganda to legitimize the very real hurt he does to the world.

sunzu ,

How naive is u?

AmidFuror ,

The main error here is thinking that because some women are motivated by money that we can generalize that to all women. And then use that to justify general misogyny.

There are horrible women and horrible men in the world. Prejudging everyone in a class because some members of the class are horrible is wrong.

sunzu ,

No doubt that is a nuanced and fair take but that's ain't the world we live in.

People make snap decisions on bad or wrong data all the time.

Zink ,

Yeah, as if plenty of men wouldn’t have a baby with a rich woman if she was offering $100k/mo child support or some shit.

The numbers work differently if you swap the sexes like that, but the motivations don’t.

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

They’re never gonna see any of that money.

nickhammes ,

Why are the women doing it? Power imbalance is probably a big factor.

sunzu ,

You think elon is pressuring all these women to get preggers lol

MondayToFriday ,

Partly psychopathic manipulation, partly sleeping around for career advancement. It’s a tale as old as time.

yesman ,

REMEMBER: If you have to have sex with you boss for advancement, that doesn’t make you a slut, that makes them a sex-offender.

“career advancement” is euphemism designed to switch the power dynamic.

fernandofig ,
@fernandofig@reddthat.com avatar

To the extent that a boss demanding sex in exchange for career advancement, I agree that makes them sex offenders. But those women still have a choice. They making the wrong choice doesn’t mean they aren’t the victim, but they still should be accountable for their choice.

GBU_28 , (edited )

Agree. Rape and sexual assault nare one thing, and always deplorable. But as presented above, this isn’t that. It’s consensual sex with the hope of advancement.

If the power dynamic is abused by the boss for the purposes of attaining that sex, that’s sexual assault.

Edit: I am not condoning this event with Elon. I’m discussing the abstract difference, while acknowledging the power imbalance

ArbiterXero ,

Here’s the problem….

Because of the power imbalance you can never divorce the two, even if she chased him.

That’s not a moral judgement, just a reality that “perspective “ matters here and if she chased him and then decides 3 years later that he unduly promoted her to try and convince her to have sex with him, BOOM he’s screwed, because she’s got a valid point.

I don’t know the answer, but he’s definitely doing things he shouldn’t.

And let’s be real, he’s likely a VERY shitty dad.

GBU_28 ,

I fully acknowledged the power imbalance

ArbiterXero ,

Right but you’re missing the whole “you can’t separate sexual abuse from the power imbalance”

It’s like when a female guard has sex with a male inmate.

I believe that most of the time that happens, the inmate went after the guard. I also believe that if you asked the inmate that they consented to it 100%.

But because the power dynamic at play is so severe, you just have to hardline it and say that as the CEO it’s illegal for you to dip in the company ink.

Probably not worth jail time, maybe just lose your job and be forbidden from directorships/ceo for 10 years?

GBU_28 ,

No I’m not missing it, I’m highlighting the above comment I replied to, which discusses that.

ArbiterXero ,

Ahhh then I misunderstood.

Have a nice day!

GBU_28 ,

You too

b000rg ,

The power dynamic is ever present. Can a person detained by a law enforcement officer consent to sex with that officer?

GBU_28 ,

Of course not, that’s why I said exploiting the power dynamic is sexual assault

ThirdWorldOrder ,

Oh so I shouldn’t have divorced my ex wife then

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

If you have to sleep with someone to get a promotion, its not worth it.

Fedizen ,

100%

sunzu ,

What are you basing this on?

Fedizen ,

Read the article MondayToFriday linked to you.

sunzu ,

So nothing ...

Zink ,

I’d venture a guess that his primary skill in life and business is pressuring other people so that he gets what he wants.

MyOpinion ,

Why are women doing this? They have a baby with him and they are able to get child support and spousal support for 18 years and maybe for life. This is a nice deal for a few nights of sex with this idiot.

sunzu , (edited )

So some women care more about the money than ensuring kid has a father?

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Some do, most don’t. A lot fall for powerful men with lots of money, and my guess is that Musk throws out advances on as many women as he is able and playing the odds with and advantage means he will find a lot of the women who desire what he has to offer from money to attention to the experience.

I would bet that out of the dozen at least one did it for the money, at least one was an accident they decided to keep, and at least one did it because they thought he night marry them.

Nothing is universally true for all women exceot for the fact that they are women.

Hubi ,
@Hubi@lemmy.world avatar

Not “women” in general. But there will always be willing idiots somewhere.

sunzu ,

True, let me fix that

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

I would definitely raise a bastard for 5 figures every month.

sunzu ,

Economics do be like that and we are all subject to needing money.

I was getting more at society loves to shit on men for walking out on kids but women don't get grief for setting up a family without a father...

Pheonixdown ,

There are women who intentionally choose to be a single parent. Like they’re single, they get a sperm donor, have a kid. It’s not some insane thing. Kids should have a supportive and caring environment, whomever raises them. Not every kid with a single caregiver is neglected, nor is every kid with 2 or more caregivers properly cared for.

Crashumbc ,

Humans run the complete gamut from the good to bad, smart to stupid.

There will ALWAYS be some people ( this includes women) willing to do anything for a chance at money or even to just rub elbows with the rich, powerful, famous

Ever heard of groupies? Wilt Chamberlain supposedly slept with 10k women and has how many kids.

But to answer your question absolutely.

sunzu ,

I think we can all agree on this, this was more of intellectual exercise.

with bigger point being, is that while dear leader is a cunt, these ladies aint angels or vistims. just getting their cut at the expense of kids having a father.

their lives, their choices. we really should not even be giving ol' ra anymore attention tbh. but every other day, here we are.

Fedizen ,

that and they wont get fired from their job

BottleOfAlkahest ,

You don’t get spousal support because someone was a sperms donor to you or had a short term affair with you. That’s not how spousal support works.

Slovene ,

But why are the women doing this?

Because of the implication.

stoneparchment ,
@stoneparchment@possumpat.io avatar

The fact this has 40 up votes right now makes me feel like lemmy is losing a diverse user base. Like, where are the women to down vote this obviously shitty take?

Let’s list some reasons why these women could have done this that aren’t “women are sluts for clown daddies”:

  • he’s their boss, and leveraging his insane power over them to make it hard to say no and keep their job
  • he’s just an extremely powerful man and they’re afraid of pissing him off
  • they have insecurities, (like the “loser cuck” fallacy!) that they aren’t valuable or desirable as partners, and attention from someone as powerful as him feels like affirmation of their value even if they don’t like him or he treats them badly
  • they understand that, by not resisting his advances, they might be able to provide themselves a link to a financial source that could support them and a child
  • he literally sexually harasses, assaults, or rapes them and they don’t feel like they can criminally pursue one of the richest men in the world

Like, yeah, some of them might be individuals who have bad taste in men or are shitty people themselves. I’m even certain that some of them are! But damn, can we take the perspective of the woman for one second? It’s not a good look to find yourself agreeing with incels on the internet

halowpeano ,

Or they’re shitty tech executives and are shit people, which has nothing to do with gender.

stoneparchment ,
@stoneparchment@possumpat.io avatar

Sure, notice that I included this possibility in the last paragraph.

Also notice that that possibility doesn’t reinforce the perspective that “women are sluts for clown daddies”

ThirdWorldOrder ,

I’m a man and I’d probably slut it out a bit for a clown mommie

stoneparchment ,
@stoneparchment@possumpat.io avatar

Aight you got me there

I, too, am down to clown tbh

deweydecibel ,

The fact this has 40 up votes right now makes me feel like lemmy is losing a diverse user base

Feel like it’s worth pointing out that user has over 360 comments, and they created that account 5 days ago.

Also keep in mind Lemmy doesn’t work like reddit. Scores are not universal, it depends on the instance you’re looking at it from.

stoneparchment ,
@stoneparchment@possumpat.io avatar

That’s a good (and reassuring) observation!

Still, even if it’s a bot/troll/etc. post, if we don’t call it out when we see it, the culture of the community slowly shifts towards “bigotry is acceptable here”…

I’m gonna keep pointing this stuff out when I see it whether the user is acting in good faith or not :)

Juice ,

What I have thanks to money, what i pay for, i.e, what money can buy, that is what I, the possessor of the money, am myself. My power is as great as the power of money. The properties of money are my- (its owner’s)- properties and faculties. Thus what I am and what I am capable of is by no means determined by my individuality. I am ugly, but I can buy myself the most beautiful women. Consequently, I am not ugly, for the effect of ugliness, its power of repulsion, is annulled by money. As an individual I am lame, but money can create twenty four feet for me; so I am not lame; I am wicked, dishonest man without conscience or intellect, but money is honored and so also is its possessor. Money is the highest good and so its possessor is good. Money relieves me of the trouble of being dishonest, so I am presumed to be honest. I may have no intellect, but money is the true mind of all things and so how should its possessor have no intellect? Morever he can buy himself intellectuals, and is not the man who has power over intellectuals not more of [an] intellectual than they?

–Marx, 1844 Manuscripts

db2 ,

… which is *probably the main thing they’ve got going for them, having started off with such trash genes.

YourPrivatHater ,

I mean he is Elon Musk, he can’t talk in a meaningful way at all…

neidu2 ,

For the sake of his children, I think that might be for the best.

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

Dude genuinely thinks he needs to spread his DNA round because he believes he’s a divine being.

YarHarSuperstar ,
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world avatar

No shit, I would genuinely love a source for this. You may be joking or exaggerating at least but whatever the case nothing would surprise me about this POS.

sigmaklimgrindset ,

Not sure about the divine being thing, but he has been spewing “We need to make more kids to preserve our culture” shit at far right rallies so…

Take that as you will.

Pieisawesome ,

He grew up in apartheid South Africa. I believe it was a thing that white men felt the need to spread their seed

ChaoticNeutralCzech ,

Probably more. Just search for ‘x’ in a name register and filter the normal ones like Alex.

assembly ,

I cant even picture how he would have meaningful relationships with the children as they have three different mothers so at least three different households on top of him being CEO of multiple companies. I wonder how often he even sees the kids. Maybe this is the Republican dream of spawning more children but never having to raise or care for any of them outside of maybe an annual trip to Disney Land or some shit.

Cuntessera ,
@Cuntessera@sh.itjust.works avatar

He spends all his time on Xitter so unless something changes about that, his day jobs aren’t the culprits.

Crashumbc ,

The same as 99% of other extremely wealthy parents, they don’t. The nannies and tutors raise the kids or in the case of illegitimate kids, the mothers are given hush money or fight and usually receive large child support checks.

This has been the norm since the middle ages or before. Why are so many people shocked and surprised by this?

That’s what confuses me, not that he’s doing it, he’s a narcissist piece of shit. It is every one in this thread with the surprised Pikachu face.

devfuuu ,

Lucky for them.

nieceandtows ,

He probably thinks his superior genes should propagate without him having to take care/share his wealth with anyone.

DoucheBagMcSwag ,

Yep he “Know nothin’ 'bout that”

Plopp ,

I hope they all turn out to be trans.

irreticent ,
@irreticent@lemmy.world avatar

One (that we know of) is trans and she hates him.

“Elon Musk’s transgender daughter has applied to legally change her name and gender, saying she no longer wants to “be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form”.”

venoft ,
@venoft@lemmy.world avatar

Just because he’s in tech does not mean this is tech news. Please stop posting this and leave it to the gossip websites.

billwashere ,

At this point he’s just a rich douchebag and has very little to do with tech. He has not made one smart business move recently let alone a smart tech move.

uranibaba ,

Why is this posted in Technology? I want to read about cool tech, not some stupid guy’s sex life.

Draedron ,

Same reason this sub is full of people desperately trying to make people use Linux. For some reason they like these topics

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

a tech billionaire who is involved with multiple technology companies sexually abusing staff is tech news

simplejack ,
@simplejack@lemmy.world avatar

At this point, this guy is basically combined sperm bank and child support subsidy. You have kids with this guy if you don’t want a present biological father, and you think his money is worth dealing with his loony bullshit.

Quacksalber ,

And, of course, if you want your children to have a peak male physique.

irreticent ,
@irreticent@lemmy.world avatar

He doesn’t have the best genes when it comes to hair loss. Have you ever seen what he looked like when he was younger; before he got the hair transplant?

Censored ,

This is gross on every level.

nondescripthandle ,

I maintain that anyone dumb enough to sleep with Elon probably shouldn’t be working on brain implants.

dyathinkhesaurus ,

Maybe that’s why they are working on brain implants

MrOxiMoron ,

Getting pregnant is a brain implant ;-)

NotMyOldRedditName ,

They might not have slept with him.

The last one to make the news rounds he was just a sperm donor. I think that was also at Neuralink.

pacmondo ,

Even his affairs are artificial inseminations. He and his father believe in the whole “we need to breed back the white race with good stock” and so he’s all about having plenty of kids that he has nothing to do with

NotMyOldRedditName ,

I never thought I’d have to ponder the question of whether it is an affair to be a sperm donor if you conceal it from your partner.

It’s definitely not the right thing to do either way.

Neato ,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

Probably not. Affairs deal with emotional or sexual relationships. Donating sperm precludes any relationship with the recipient in all but the most personal of situations. I.e. you donate your sperm to a friend.

And in donations you don’t retain parenthood rights I believe. So it’s a question of who gets to control your body and the answer is only you.

Snowclone ,

It really depends on the situation some couples want the doner more involved like a godfather, or uncle. Some want it illegal for the kid to ever talk to you or meet you even if you someday decide you want to. I know s couple that brokered their situation threw a third party so the doner wouldn’t even know anything about them.

Kecessa ,

“with good stock”

The guy has Asperger syndrome, from the get go he’s not the pinnacle of human genetics…

YarHarSuperstar ,
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world avatar

WTF is that supposed to mean? First of all Asperger’s is named after a literal Nazi, we don’t call it that anymore. Second of all, plenty of autistic people have kids and relationships and are very happy. This comes off ableist as fuck

VerticaGG ,

^^^^ this

benjamin_ ,

No disrespect intended, nor drama

What’s the name of it now?

JadenSmith ,

Different people feel comfortable with different names. For a while, and still today, many people refer to it as High Functioning Autism however many people find offense in using that term for themselves.

At the end of the day it is an autism diagnosis, and simply saying Autism often works fine. Most of the time I say I have Autism as it makes things easier for others if I don’t go on long explanations. For what it’s worth I was diagnosed as having Asperger’s Syndrome many years ago (in 2004), however I personally find no offense in the term ‘high functioning autism’ though only because it fits my own self.

Snowclone ,

Eugenics in is the garbage heap of history for this kind of thinking. Evolution is never ‘done’ and there are no perfect people, there is no ubermench, no Superman, and no Pinnnacle of human genetics, you could be born cut and discovering new fields of math and science by 8, then die of a congenital heart defect at 26. You can live 110 years fully functional and never develop past the intellectual benchmarks of a 7 year old. There’s no perfect. No one’s genes are ‘good’ or ‘bad’ only more typical or less typical, and typical can be a lot better than less typical in some categories, much worse in others. One of my kids started talking at 6mon. Like full on sentences. She developed very early. So it’s she a genius? She’s very smart, she hits all her benchmarks at school. But no, she’s not moving up in grades or anything, early development isn’t superior development, that’s a big misconception. What you think a perfect human is won’t match what others think. The more you learn about human biology, the more your going to learn that the statics can’t be boiled down to RPG stats. It’s millions of factors and what is good or best is entirely subjective.

mrgreyeyes ,

It’s sort of guaranteed nest egg.

just_another_person ,

Of course he does. I can’t find a link, but he once thought of all of his kids as a genetic dissemination of his gifts. He literally thinks he’s some kind of special, and not some rich kid cosplaying as Da Vinci or similar. The bar for narcissistic behavior has been raised.

kmartburrito ,

It’s actually a hallmark / strategy of his family. “The only thing we are on this Earth for is to reproduce”

LaunchesKayaks ,
@LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world avatar

Bro just has a breeding kink

Rentlar ,

Secret child-man? Or conspicuous man-child?

drdiddlybadger ,
@drdiddlybadger@pawb.social avatar

Considering his relationships with Epstein et Al it’s pretty conspicuous.

tobbue ,

It seems like x is also the number of children he has.

LEDZeppelin ,

At this point if you’re a woman high up on corporate ladder working for Elon it is a job requirement to bear his child.

Such a pathetic person

interrobang ,

Another employee says she refused Musk’s requests to have children with him several times, according to the Journal.

What. The. Fuck.

SEVERAL TIMES

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Musk reposted a chart that claims Europe is suffering from a “fertility crisis,” saying “civilization may end with a bang or with a whimper (in adult diapers).”

Right. Europe. Civilisation. Coming from a bigoted, lying, racist, billionaire that’s hardly surprising.

Further, so what?

NeoNachtwaechter ,

a collapsing birth rate is the biggest danger civilization faces

It’s going to be even worse when all these Mars colonists leave from here, and later we need to replenish their losses.

/s

PumpkinEscobar ,

Elon “Nick Cannon” Musk

istanbullu ,

The inheritance battle will be quite colourful when Elon finally overdoses on Adderall

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