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autotldr Bot ,

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Elon Musk, who has long touted claims about the world’s supposed depopulation crisis, had another child with an executive at his brain implant company Neuralink, according to a report from Bloomberg.

Neuralink director Shivon Zilis reportedly had the child with Musk earlier this year.

On Thursday, Musk reposted a chart that claims Europe is suffering from a “fertility crisis,” saying “civilization may end with a bang or with a whimper (in adult diapers).”

He told Carlson “a collapsing birth rate is the biggest danger civilization faces, by far.” In 2021, Musk’s nonprofit organization donated $10 million to the University of Austin to fund the Population Wellbeing Initiative, a research group that studies the human population.

A recent report from The Wall Street Journal said Musk had a sexual relationship with a former SpaceX intern who later became one of the company’s executives.

Last week, eight former SpaceX engineers filed a lawsuit against Musk that claims the billionaire “knowingly and purposefully created an unwelcome hostile work environment based upon his conduct of interjecting into the workplace vile sexual photographs, memes, and commentary that demeaned women and/or the LGBTQ+ community.” The complaint echoes past allegations of discrimination and sexual harassment at SpaceX, including an incident where Musk allegedly propositioned a flight attendant for sex.

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just_another_person ,

Of course he does. I can’t find a link, but he once thought of all of his kids as a genetic dissemination of his gifts. He literally thinks he’s some kind of special, and not some rich kid cosplaying as Da Vinci or similar. The bar for narcissistic behavior has been raised.

kmartburrito ,

It’s actually a hallmark / strategy of his family. “The only thing we are on this Earth for is to reproduce”

LaunchesKayaks ,
@LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world avatar

Bro just has a breeding kink

dinckelman ,

Are they trying to pull an infinite money glitch with the child support, or what’s going on here

MsPenguinette ,

He’s such an egomaniac that reproducing is a kink for him. Imagine being one of those kids and knowing your dad gets off at your very existence while him also caring so little about you other than your genes

meeeeetch ,

You know how the Tesla board voted to gone him a $50 billion compensation package? After child support gets deducted he’s actually making a modest six figure paycheck.

rem26_art ,
@rem26_art@fedia.io avatar

guy has 12 children and probably talks to none of them in any sort of meaningful way

sunzu ,

We know why he is doing this... He don't give a fuck...

But why are the women doing this? This kinda confirms a lot biases that loser cucks shill online tbh

Then everyone wonders why losers worship these clown daddies...

partial_accumen ,

But why are the women doing this?

Child support payments from one of the richest men on the planet probably aren’t small.

sunzu ,

And then we wonder why Andrew Tate has a following lol

"Why would my child need a dad, when I can get paid cash money!"

partial_accumen ,

Andrew Tate is also in a Romanian jail right now, if I’m not mistaken.

SkaveRat ,

I feel for the other inmates

Archer ,

That’s why we banned cruel and unusual punishment

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Its a shame Adin Ross didn’t join him. He could probably use the companionship. Also, it keeps Adin’s dumb ass off the internet.

TheFonz ,

Take Sneako too pls

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

Please, do not even pretend that a human trafficking serial rapist gives a shit about “the role of fathers in a child’s life”

sunzu ,

Does he have to give a shit beyond pretend?

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

He is a human trafficking serial rapist. End of story. Anything else is just spewing his own propaganda to legitimize the very real hurt he does to the world.

sunzu ,

How naive is u?

AmidFuror ,

The main error here is thinking that because some women are motivated by money that we can generalize that to all women. And then use that to justify general misogyny.

There are horrible women and horrible men in the world. Prejudging everyone in a class because some members of the class are horrible is wrong.

sunzu ,

No doubt that is a nuanced and fair take but that's ain't the world we live in.

People make snap decisions on bad or wrong data all the time.

Zink ,

Yeah, as if plenty of men wouldn’t have a baby with a rich woman if she was offering $100k/mo child support or some shit.

The numbers work differently if you swap the sexes like that, but the motivations don’t.

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

They’re never gonna see any of that money.

nickhammes ,

Why are the women doing it? Power imbalance is probably a big factor.

sunzu ,

You think elon is pressuring all these women to get preggers lol

MondayToFriday ,

Partly psychopathic manipulation, partly sleeping around for career advancement. It’s a tale as old as time.

yesman ,

REMEMBER: If you have to have sex with you boss for advancement, that doesn’t make you a slut, that makes them a sex-offender.

“career advancement” is euphemism designed to switch the power dynamic.

fernandofig ,
@fernandofig@reddthat.com avatar

To the extent that a boss demanding sex in exchange for career advancement, I agree that makes them sex offenders. But those women still have a choice. They making the wrong choice doesn’t mean they aren’t the victim, but they still should be accountable for their choice.

GBU_28 , (edited )

Agree. Rape and sexual assault nare one thing, and always deplorable. But as presented above, this isn’t that. It’s consensual sex with the hope of advancement.

If the power dynamic is abused by the boss for the purposes of attaining that sex, that’s sexual assault.

Edit: I am not condoning this event with Elon. I’m discussing the abstract difference, while acknowledging the power imbalance

ArbiterXero ,

Here’s the problem….

Because of the power imbalance you can never divorce the two, even if she chased him.

That’s not a moral judgement, just a reality that “perspective “ matters here and if she chased him and then decides 3 years later that he unduly promoted her to try and convince her to have sex with him, BOOM he’s screwed, because she’s got a valid point.

I don’t know the answer, but he’s definitely doing things he shouldn’t.

And let’s be real, he’s likely a VERY shitty dad.

GBU_28 ,

I fully acknowledged the power imbalance

ArbiterXero ,

Right but you’re missing the whole “you can’t separate sexual abuse from the power imbalance”

It’s like when a female guard has sex with a male inmate.

I believe that most of the time that happens, the inmate went after the guard. I also believe that if you asked the inmate that they consented to it 100%.

But because the power dynamic at play is so severe, you just have to hardline it and say that as the CEO it’s illegal for you to dip in the company ink.

Probably not worth jail time, maybe just lose your job and be forbidden from directorships/ceo for 10 years?

GBU_28 ,

No I’m not missing it, I’m highlighting the above comment I replied to, which discusses that.

ArbiterXero ,

Ahhh then I misunderstood.

Have a nice day!

GBU_28 ,

You too

b000rg ,

The power dynamic is ever present. Can a person detained by a law enforcement officer consent to sex with that officer?

GBU_28 ,

Of course not, that’s why I said exploiting the power dynamic is sexual assault

ThirdWorldOrder ,

Oh so I shouldn’t have divorced my ex wife then

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

If you have to sleep with someone to get a promotion, its not worth it.

Fedizen ,

100%

sunzu ,

What are you basing this on?

Fedizen ,

Read the article MondayToFriday linked to you.

sunzu ,

So nothing ...

Zink ,

I’d venture a guess that his primary skill in life and business is pressuring other people so that he gets what he wants.

MyOpinion ,

Why are women doing this? They have a baby with him and they are able to get child support and spousal support for 18 years and maybe for life. This is a nice deal for a few nights of sex with this idiot.

sunzu , (edited )

So some women care more about the money than ensuring kid has a father?

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Some do, most don’t. A lot fall for powerful men with lots of money, and my guess is that Musk throws out advances on as many women as he is able and playing the odds with and advantage means he will find a lot of the women who desire what he has to offer from money to attention to the experience.

I would bet that out of the dozen at least one did it for the money, at least one was an accident they decided to keep, and at least one did it because they thought he night marry them.

Nothing is universally true for all women exceot for the fact that they are women.

Hubi ,
@Hubi@lemmy.world avatar

Not “women” in general. But there will always be willing idiots somewhere.

sunzu ,

True, let me fix that

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

I would definitely raise a bastard for 5 figures every month.

sunzu ,

Economics do be like that and we are all subject to needing money.

I was getting more at society loves to shit on men for walking out on kids but women don't get grief for setting up a family without a father...

Pheonixdown ,

There are women who intentionally choose to be a single parent. Like they’re single, they get a sperm donor, have a kid. It’s not some insane thing. Kids should have a supportive and caring environment, whomever raises them. Not every kid with a single caregiver is neglected, nor is every kid with 2 or more caregivers properly cared for.

Crashumbc ,

Humans run the complete gamut from the good to bad, smart to stupid.

There will ALWAYS be some people ( this includes women) willing to do anything for a chance at money or even to just rub elbows with the rich, powerful, famous

Ever heard of groupies? Wilt Chamberlain supposedly slept with 10k women and has how many kids.

But to answer your question absolutely.

sunzu ,

I think we can all agree on this, this was more of intellectual exercise.

with bigger point being, is that while dear leader is a cunt, these ladies aint angels or vistims. just getting their cut at the expense of kids having a father.

their lives, their choices. we really should not even be giving ol' ra anymore attention tbh. but every other day, here we are.

Fedizen ,

that and they wont get fired from their job

BottleOfAlkahest ,

You don’t get spousal support because someone was a sperms donor to you or had a short term affair with you. That’s not how spousal support works.

Slovene ,

But why are the women doing this?

Because of the implication.

stoneparchment ,
@stoneparchment@possumpat.io avatar

The fact this has 40 up votes right now makes me feel like lemmy is losing a diverse user base. Like, where are the women to down vote this obviously shitty take?

Let’s list some reasons why these women could have done this that aren’t “women are sluts for clown daddies”:

  • he’s their boss, and leveraging his insane power over them to make it hard to say no and keep their job
  • he’s just an extremely powerful man and they’re afraid of pissing him off
  • they have insecurities, (like the “loser cuck” fallacy!) that they aren’t valuable or desirable as partners, and attention from someone as powerful as him feels like affirmation of their value even if they don’t like him or he treats them badly
  • they understand that, by not resisting his advances, they might be able to provide themselves a link to a financial source that could support them and a child
  • he literally sexually harasses, assaults, or rapes them and they don’t feel like they can criminally pursue one of the richest men in the world

Like, yeah, some of them might be individuals who have bad taste in men or are shitty people themselves. I’m even certain that some of them are! But damn, can we take the perspective of the woman for one second? It’s not a good look to find yourself agreeing with incels on the internet

halowpeano ,

Or they’re shitty tech executives and are shit people, which has nothing to do with gender.

stoneparchment ,
@stoneparchment@possumpat.io avatar

Sure, notice that I included this possibility in the last paragraph.

Also notice that that possibility doesn’t reinforce the perspective that “women are sluts for clown daddies”

ThirdWorldOrder ,

I’m a man and I’d probably slut it out a bit for a clown mommie

stoneparchment ,
@stoneparchment@possumpat.io avatar

Aight you got me there

I, too, am down to clown tbh

deweydecibel ,

The fact this has 40 up votes right now makes me feel like lemmy is losing a diverse user base

Feel like it’s worth pointing out that user has over 360 comments, and they created that account 5 days ago.

Also keep in mind Lemmy doesn’t work like reddit. Scores are not universal, it depends on the instance you’re looking at it from.

stoneparchment ,
@stoneparchment@possumpat.io avatar

That’s a good (and reassuring) observation!

Still, even if it’s a bot/troll/etc. post, if we don’t call it out when we see it, the culture of the community slowly shifts towards “bigotry is acceptable here”…

I’m gonna keep pointing this stuff out when I see it whether the user is acting in good faith or not :)

Juice ,

What I have thanks to money, what i pay for, i.e, what money can buy, that is what I, the possessor of the money, am myself. My power is as great as the power of money. The properties of money are my- (its owner’s)- properties and faculties. Thus what I am and what I am capable of is by no means determined by my individuality. I am ugly, but I can buy myself the most beautiful women. Consequently, I am not ugly, for the effect of ugliness, its power of repulsion, is annulled by money. As an individual I am lame, but money can create twenty four feet for me; so I am not lame; I am wicked, dishonest man without conscience or intellect, but money is honored and so also is its possessor. Money is the highest good and so its possessor is good. Money relieves me of the trouble of being dishonest, so I am presumed to be honest. I may have no intellect, but money is the true mind of all things and so how should its possessor have no intellect? Morever he can buy himself intellectuals, and is not the man who has power over intellectuals not more of [an] intellectual than they?

–Marx, 1844 Manuscripts

db2 ,

… which is *probably the main thing they’ve got going for them, having started off with such trash genes.

YourPrivatHater ,

I mean he is Elon Musk, he can’t talk in a meaningful way at all…

neidu2 ,

For the sake of his children, I think that might be for the best.

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

Dude genuinely thinks he needs to spread his DNA round because he believes he’s a divine being.

YarHarSuperstar ,
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world avatar

No shit, I would genuinely love a source for this. You may be joking or exaggerating at least but whatever the case nothing would surprise me about this POS.

sigmaklimgrindset ,

Not sure about the divine being thing, but he has been spewing “We need to make more kids to preserve our culture” shit at far right rallies so…

Take that as you will.

Pieisawesome ,

He grew up in apartheid South Africa. I believe it was a thing that white men felt the need to spread their seed

ChaoticNeutralCzech ,

Probably more. Just search for ‘x’ in a name register and filter the normal ones like Alex.

assembly ,

I cant even picture how he would have meaningful relationships with the children as they have three different mothers so at least three different households on top of him being CEO of multiple companies. I wonder how often he even sees the kids. Maybe this is the Republican dream of spawning more children but never having to raise or care for any of them outside of maybe an annual trip to Disney Land or some shit.

Cuntessera ,
@Cuntessera@sh.itjust.works avatar

He spends all his time on Xitter so unless something changes about that, his day jobs aren’t the culprits.

Crashumbc ,

The same as 99% of other extremely wealthy parents, they don’t. The nannies and tutors raise the kids or in the case of illegitimate kids, the mothers are given hush money or fight and usually receive large child support checks.

This has been the norm since the middle ages or before. Why are so many people shocked and surprised by this?

That’s what confuses me, not that he’s doing it, he’s a narcissist piece of shit. It is every one in this thread with the surprised Pikachu face.

devfuuu ,

Lucky for them.

nieceandtows ,

He probably thinks his superior genes should propagate without him having to take care/share his wealth with anyone.

DoucheBagMcSwag ,

Yep he “Know nothin’ 'bout that”

Plopp ,

I hope they all turn out to be trans.

irreticent ,
@irreticent@lemmy.world avatar

One (that we know of) is trans and she hates him.

“Elon Musk’s transgender daughter has applied to legally change her name and gender, saying she no longer wants to “be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form”.”

enkille ,

Dude’s out here trying to become Genghis Con with all these kids

The_Picard_Maneuver ,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

“Genghis Con” is a good one

Shawdow194 ,
@Shawdow194@kbin.run avatar

Kinda fucked he only has them in executive and C level positions because they are banging him

Talk about quid pro quo...

VubDapple ,

Leaving a plague of abandonment trauma in his wake.

Rentlar ,

Secret child-man? Or conspicuous man-child?

drdiddlybadger ,
@drdiddlybadger@pawb.social avatar

Considering his relationships with Epstein et Al it’s pretty conspicuous.

SouthFresh ,
@SouthFresh@lemmy.ml avatar

Someone call CPS on this woman. Elon Musk has the brain capacity of a 4 year old, this should be considered child abuse.

/s just in case

istanbullu ,

The inheritance battle will be quite colourful when Elon finally overdoses on Adderall

PumpkinEscobar ,

Elon “Nick Cannon” Musk

LEDZeppelin ,

At this point if you’re a woman high up on corporate ladder working for Elon it is a job requirement to bear his child.

Such a pathetic person

interrobang ,

Another employee says she refused Musk’s requests to have children with him several times, according to the Journal.

What. The. Fuck.

SEVERAL TIMES

NeoNachtwaechter ,

a collapsing birth rate is the biggest danger civilization faces

It’s going to be even worse when all these Mars colonists leave from here, and later we need to replenish their losses.

/s

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Musk reposted a chart that claims Europe is suffering from a “fertility crisis,” saying “civilization may end with a bang or with a whimper (in adult diapers).”

Right. Europe. Civilisation. Coming from a bigoted, lying, racist, billionaire that’s hardly surprising.

Further, so what?

simplejack ,
@simplejack@lemmy.world avatar

At this point, this guy is basically combined sperm bank and child support subsidy. You have kids with this guy if you don’t want a present biological father, and you think his money is worth dealing with his loony bullshit.

Quacksalber ,

And, of course, if you want your children to have a peak male physique.

irreticent ,
@irreticent@lemmy.world avatar

He doesn’t have the best genes when it comes to hair loss. Have you ever seen what he looked like when he was younger; before he got the hair transplant?

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