There have been multiple accounts created with the sole purpose of posting advertisement posts or replies containing unsolicited advertising.

Accounts which solely post advertisements, or persistently post them may be terminated.

PlanetOfOrd ,

News headline, October 2078

Google finds users are covering their ears and closing their eyes; releases nanobots to force eyes open and lock hands behind back.

Deemo ,

Reminds of the 15 million merits episdoe in black mirror

diyrebel , (edited )

Ad pushing is only part of the problem… These tokens will kill the Wayback machine. It’s anti-library tech.

Anti-bot tech is inherently anti-human.

SpaceCadet ,
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    PipedLinkBot ,

    Here is an alternative Piped link(s): piped.video/watch?v=s7WDbnHlc1E

    Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

    I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

    ThisIsMyLemmyLogin ,
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    I find it disturbing that there are people out there who spend much of their time thinking about new ways to get people to see adverts. Surely it falls under the “bullshit jobs” category that David Graeber once wrote about.

    spark947 ,

    It’s not just that there are people thinking about it, it’s that this is what our brightest minds in our society are incentivized to think about.

    There is a joke in tech circles - if you are smart enough you eventually end up in ad tech. It’s really unhealthy for our society.

    HeavyDogFeet ,
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    I hate shitty ads as much as the next person, but you’re ignoring how much of the internet runs on advertising money. Think of all the websites, services, apps, etc that you use that are “free” (read: ad-supported) — without ad revenue, a large percentage of them would be too expensive to run.

    I’m not saying ad-tech companies/people are always good, many of them clearly do unethical shit, but the idea that you’re being forced to see ads is kind of crazy. You always have the option to not use ad-supported stuff, it’s just a lot more limiting and expensive.

    RubberElectrons ,
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    I’m ok with that. The internet was a lot weirder and more interesting when people were creating their own services and sites. We’re on an ad-free, donation-based platform right this very second.

    No banks and their policies to answer to, just some regular folks and their weird lemmy servers. You like it? Cool. You don’t? Also cool.

    minikieff ,

    The double post to demonstrate the weirdness of Lemmy is a nice touch.

    RubberElectrons ,
    @RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

    Whoops. Fixed, hahaha

    HeavyDogFeet ,
    @HeavyDogFeet@lemmy.world avatar

    Your point doesn’t make sense. Even back when people where creating their own services and sites (which they still are, it’s not like that has ever stopped) there was still often ad-funding when those things grew to a scale where donations alone couldn’t support them.

    And yes, lemmy is ad-free. That’s doesn’t mean the model will work for everything else. Ad-support can be a great way of keeping something accessible and free for people who can’t or won’t pay for it. It’s not always a bad thing.

    diyrebel ,

    The heart of your stance is apparently that pernicious socially harmful mechanisms are okay as long as they finance something useful. Correct?

    Or is it that you don’t see the harms of advertising?

    Advertising is a wasteful arms race. Bob may not want to spend money advertising his business, but if Mallory (his competitor) spends money on ads, then Bob is forced to spend money on ads to recover marketshare loss due to Mallory’s ads.

    HeavyDogFeet ,
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    That’s a pretty disingenuous interpretation of what I said. But I get it, you don’t like advertising so it has to be completely evil with no redeeming qualities or nuance.

    Valmond ,

    Oh you talked about the good ads!

    Really, I have yet to see an ad that is not just trying to enter your brain with force and malice.

    It’s just getting worse too, the “Buy Acme product!” image is now a +100% loudness jump-scare video on auto-pay.

    RubberElectrons ,
    @RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t know that your counterpoint makes much sense either. Just because the web has devolved into a centralized ad-powered mess doesn’t mean that’s how things should operate. And I do mean mess, consider the many overlapping, sometimes competing rules each advertiser has the right to impose on the location their ads may appear.

    I personally consider advertisements to be psychological warfare, an unfortunate requirement for business today. If we allow the “local maximum” that advertising is to fester, the number of spaces and the amount of time occupied by ads pretty much is required to steadily increase.

    Let’s just… Not do it. AdBlock, open-source browsers and services to promote privacy, while making it clear that the money to run the servers has to come from somewhere.

    I donate to Wikipedia every year. Signal, proton, several git projects… If you can help, please do. If you can’t/won’t, we’ll try to keep the ship moving along anyway.

    HeavyDogFeet ,
    @HeavyDogFeet@lemmy.world avatar

    I donate to a bunch of projects and pay for ad-free services too, but that doesn’t mean that all ad-funded things are bad or that all advertising is evil.

    Monetisation in general has ruined the internet in many ways, but that extends beyond just ad-based monetisation. Subscriptions, excessive upgrade pricing, in app purchases and dlcs, etc. it all plays a part in the problem, but people like to blame it all on advertising for some because (at least from what I’ve seen) they largely don’t really understand the thing they’re talking about.

    RubberElectrons ,
    @RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

    Erm… I didn’t see where anyone blamed it all on ads alone. Haven’t seen anyone else proselytizing their usage either.

    But that’d almost seem like a mischaracterization eh? We’re on the same page, trying to ‘win’ an argument nobody’s having makes one of us look a bit goofy.

    Crisps ,

    A lot of ads should be banned for environmental reasons alone. From junk mail, lit up signs, eyesore billboards, and all the power wasted in digital ads.

    SuperSpruce ,

    The big reasons I’m against this is all the side effects. Yes, there will be more ads, but there will also be:

    1. More autoplaying videos on article websites
    2. Increased risk of malware from ads
    3. Decreased competition in the browser space
    4. Decreased competition in the OS space
    5. More tracking and data harvesting
    CoolBeance ,
    @CoolBeance@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t know if it’s the Google engineers that “want” to do this

    Bardfinn ,

    As a Google engineer I support this proposal. Why? Because it will make me money. And the best part is we will do this no matter how much you complain because you cannot stop us. We’re all laughing at you guys and your impotent seething on Blind.

    Valmond ,

    We’ll just won’t look at your website then.

    andy_wijaya_med ,
    @andy_wijaya_med@lemmy.world avatar

    Would you get more money doing this? How?

    sergih123 ,

    lmao imagine geniuenly thinking that if your company makes more money you’ll also get more money 😭😭.

    If it ever makes 10% more, be lucky that they bump your salary by 2%

    Also, you do realize you are just as affected by this? I’m pretty sure, as a tech savvy person, you have ads removed, because you know how bad of an experience you have when they’re on, enjoy that too if this ever comes into place, as of now, I’ll keep using Firefox.

    Bardfinn ,

    lmao I get paid in RSUs.

    random8847 ,

    Not sure if troll or just an asshole.

    HurlingDurling ,

    Judging by his comment history it feels like he is an asshole

    jantin ,

    And another question: did someone already lay out a roadmap to google’s collapse?

    Right now we’re going through a financial crisis, big tech needs to start making proper money so they try to squeeze the users. Google hopes to “drm the internet” to maximise ad revenue. Let’s assume they succeed. 3 years from now the dystopia of dead adblockers is live, google and other leeches make bank off ads.

    But there’s no more adblockers and no more ad revenue left to squeeze out (because every internet user is already chained to a screen and force fed ads within ads). And shareholders demand increase in profits. What do they do then? Is there any hint of a long-term strategy? How long before the maximum theoretical ad revenue is reached and plateaus? Then COVID29 or something comes, fed raises rastes again and…?

    june ,

    You’re describing the inherent limitations of capitalism. Our entire economy is predicated on infinite growth, which doesn’t exist and isn’t possible. What you describe is the eventual collapse of not just organizations, but of the US as a whole.

    FinalRemix ,

    Good. Let’s fucking get it over with.

    just_another_person ,

    No, not the US as a whole, but perhaps the end of the insane and without reasonable measures Capitalism that it has spawned. This is the theorized late-stage capitalism, but it was brought to this level by a broken and out of control system, whereas the academic model of capitalism would have had certain mechanisms of balance to prevent exactly where we are.

    The system of the present is too imbalanced to function with all these corporations, conglomerates, and billionaires holding a disproportionate amount of the wealth and keeping it from circulating. The economic system in the US just can’t work this way, so some drastic shift to reduce or remove the wealth gap will need to change.

    Telodzrum ,

    Capitalism doesn’t require infinite growth. This is some trite line that was invented on Twitter and became the common wisdom in online discussions about the failings of current national and global economic systems. It’s not true. It appears to be true that the current model of capitalism favored the globe over requires infinite growth, but the current implementation of capitalism is not the same as it has always been implemented or will always be. There are more than enough legitimate criticisms of both capitalism writ large as well as current systems, we should be directing our ire through those arguments and not one that is factually false.

    TotallynotJessica ,
    @TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world avatar

    I suspect the argument is that capitalism is fueled by desire, which is psychologically insatiable. Some would probably say that any system allowing capitalism will eventually be corrupted by it and lead back to the infinite growth capitalism we currently live in. It’s the belief that we have to totally extinguish it or it will come back stronger.

    Thorny_Thicket , (edited )

    Our entire economy is predicated on infinite growth, which doesn’t exist and isn’t possible.

    You can sit in front of a computer using almost zero new resources while coding an application which you then sell to a megacorporation for 30 billion. The “inifite growth with limited resources” -argument doesn’t hold.

    DigDoug ,

    Use Firefox.

    Even the Android version lets you install uBlock Origin.

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    Liz ,

    Yeah, that’s why I switched to Ecosia, a reskin of chrome that plants trees. Then Google go and does this and now I’m back to Firefox…

    phillaholic ,

    I don’t see the problem with it. I guess people just don’t like change, but you can customize Firefox’s UI unlike Chromes.

    bacrack ,

    There’s no perfect browser, there’s no perfect browser dev team. Just lesser of the evils.

    thorbot ,

    Updates are inevitable. It’s still better than the alternatives.

    DadHands ,

    Can’t on iOS though 😓

    transientpunk ,
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    That’s Apples fault. They force every mobile browser to be a reskinned version of Safari.

    Compactor9679 ,

    Why in the fucking world would you use Apple?

    DadHands ,

    Bc every other smartwatch is miles behind apple tbh

    Compactor9679 ,

    Da fuck are you talking about?

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    Misconduct ,

    Have you seen any commercials recently? They are something else. Either the most generic basic standard commercial or wtf did I just watch. There’s no in-between lol. I genuinely thought a couple were in the movie I was watching because it was about a bad advertising company lol

    Hyphlosion ,
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    wanderingmagus ,

    Reject internet, return to book. Mmm, words.

    MercuryUprising ,

    The last time I remember watching television must’ve been the early 2000s, and I remember watching a movie on TBS. They used to have commercial blocks every 20 minutes or so, which was a little annoying still, but at this point watching a movie was a commercial break every 5-8 minutes. It wasn’t enough to get through a single scene sometimes, which is like somebody snatching a book out of your hand to tell you about products for three minutes as you’re mid-chapter.

    I started just buying DVDs instead and ended up with a great little library full of movies that I hand picked and all the special features that came with them. If the internet turns into what TV was like in those days, I’ll simply start blocking sites that run heavy with ads and only white-list websites that respect an ad-free ecosystem.

    SocialMediaRefugee ,

    If I have to FF past the same damn ad for an ear wax pressure washer one more time I’m going to scream.

    opt9 ,

    Google controls way too much. People need to stop using their products. Many people complaining right now are still using Google stuff. If everyone concerned stop using Google stuff, that would cause them to reconsider very quickly.

    postmateDumbass ,

    Anti trust target.

    opt9 ,

    I think they are too big for that. They are more powerful than many nation states.

    catathreniameh ,

    I still find it ironic that I use their products (Pixel) specifically to not use their products (GrapheneOS). Though in the past it was OnePlus with LinageOS.

    opt9 ,

    It is ironic, but the Pixel is good piece of hardware. So you discard the crap (Google software) and keep what is good (the hardware). That is the way forward. Discard chrome, keep Chromium or Brave for example.

    ElvenMithril ,

    Firefox you ment, right?; )

    opt9 ,

    Well I was referring to keeping the good that comes out of Google and discarding the bad. Firefox, actually librewolf is superior but has nothing to do with Google.

    void_wanderer ,

    I’m genuinely curious. Is it feasible that they maintain their own chromium forks, or will the work become too much if Google keeps inserting more and more crap into it?

    opt9 ,

    There are already several projects based on Chromium that are very well established such as Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, and Opera. The project will continue just fine without Google if need be. If they all resist the changes together, Google will have a problem. I’m not expecting anything from Microsoft, but the others might.

    Korkki ,

    Google controls way too much. People need to stop using their products.

    At his point it’s like saying stop using the internet. Also most don’t even have the freedom to totally ditch google, since time and effort and knowledge of alternatives are still a scarce resources. Also work and school might be tied to their products. I fear they are too big to fail. This btw why any sort of Open source, crypto, fediverse shit is only the second best option in my option when taking on the tech giants. My preferred option would be total nationalization of big tech platforms and handling them as public utilities. Drop them under some new UN institution and we would golden.

    opt9 ,

    At his point it’s like saying stop using the internet. No it’s not, there are plenty of very good alternatives. I know because I haven’t used anything Google in years and I fully engage with society. People just have to put in some effort and stop being spoiled babies and whining all the time when everything is not given to them ready to use and free.

    My preferred option would be total nationalization of big tech platforms and handling them as public utilities. Sounds good, but you forget that governments in the West are simply employees of the big corps and banks. It would be the same shit, probably worse because now they wouldn’t have to pretend.

    Korkki ,

    but you forget that governments in the West are simply employees of the big corps and banks.

    True, or it’s more like private public blob, with the private part dominating, but better to have nominal democratic and legistlative control than total corporate impunity to make and change the rules as the go and only being limited with nominal legislation by corporate puppet government. Also I mean something trans national, like the UN. obviously just giving all social media to their respective governments would just lead to same problems and wold still just leave the social media sphere into a plaything of US gov, that it is already, (and that why it will never happen because it would require US gov cooperating). But the minimal gain from all this would be that it would be only the government spying on you, not both government and the corporations.

    NutWrench ,
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    If a website stops working because it won’t let you block ads, then THEY’RE the one with the problem, not us. I won’t stop blocking advertising just because some company decides that my home is their place of business and says it’s “not allowed.”

    The Internet is designed to route around damage (like the kind of damage caused by companies that try to make parts of it unusable). Folks will create new, open-source browsers, or flock to alternative websites that respect their privacy (and property).

    NutWrench ,
    @NutWrench@lemmy.world avatar

    Yup. Start by not using Google’s search engine. Use DuckDuckGo, instead.

    opt9 ,

    Duckduck is definitely a good start, but keep in mind it just anonymizes Google search for you. Brave, Quant, Mojeek and more have indexed their own databases. We need entirely different setups to get around Google’s massive censorship and opinion shaping algos that Duckduck cannot bypass. Searx is also interesting as it allows you to choose from a large list of different search engines.

    hak8or ,

    How is the experience of using those search engines with their own indexes? At quick glance, brave seems adequate, but would like to know what others think.

    opt9 ,

    I think they are pretty good, and return some stuff that is censored out of Google and Bing. And if I don’t find what I’m looking for, its very easy to use Bing which is pretty similar to Google. Microsoft is no better than Google, but we can let them serve us when it suits us, rather than the other way around.

    ZeekMacard ,
    @ZeekMacard@feddit.cl avatar

    I thought that Duckduck Go used Bing and the one who anonymizes Google is Start Page, or both do that?

    opt9 ,

    Its the other way around. Startpage uses Bing.

    Liz ,

    I’d use Ecosia. Private searching that also plants trees.

    www.ecosia.org

    LakesLem ,

    Trouble is that means using an iPhone. I just came from there. Apple suck in their own unique ways and are no better really.

    opt9 ,

    iPhone is far from the only alternative out there. There are plenty of de-Googled solutions for Android like LineageOs. If you are more technically inclined, Graphene is superior to iphone in security also. These solutions can make use of the playstore or proxy it through Aurora depending on your personal preferences.

    LakesLem ,

    At least one of them requires buying a Google phone to install it on :)

    In fact probably all decent compatible phones still involve licensing fees to Google in the purchase price, all of the “alternative” OSes still rely on Google to develop the code base that they copy and strip down, etc. The only other one I can think of is Ubuntu phone, which would be so incomplete you might as well carry a dumbphone at that point.

    opt9 ,

    Yes, the Pixel is a very good piece of hardware once you remove the crap software. If not the Pixel, there are plenty of other phone manufacturers around the world. Purism is another interesting option. Android is an open source project and Google cannot shut it down. There will always be ways. The majority are actually pretty smart and capable, just afraid of change. They wake up at some point though.

    Laticauda ,

    There are no laws stating that we have to watch or see ads, so forcing us to watch them feels like a huge overstep. Companies shouldn’t be able to have this much control over a public service.

    capr ,

    so forcing us to watch them feels like a huge overstep.

    We live in a fascist society so I wouldn’t be suprised of their audacity…

    gigachad ,

    Where are you from?

    LurkNoMore ,

    It isn’t Google Engineers wanting to do it. It’s Google engineers being told to do it.

    LordShrek ,

    this is what i’m frustrated with. why do all these engineers let themselves be told what to do even if it makes a worse-functioning tool? that’s not real engineering.

    “because they’ll get fired”

    not if enough of them do the thing that should’ve been what got them interested in engineering in the first place.

    maybe we shouldn’t call them engineers, but something else relating to being the one who does the dirty work for institutions that aim to steal people’s attention and decrease their quality of life.

    and if they do get fired, then they should join together and make the reasonable company that makes good tools for human use.

    boonhet ,

    That’s called doing your job though. Do you just regularly… tell your boss to fuck off with their requirements?

    In an environment where software engineers are being laid off by the thousands, I don’t think anyone’s going to hand in a resignation letter just because the prestigious ad company they’re working for is… making them force ads on people.

    Many of them will also have to go back to India if they quit their jobs. What’s that, a 10x difference in income?

    cloudy1999 ,

    Also, it’s probably only a handful of people who are implementing this ‘enhancement.’ It’s not like a small team has any real bargaining power.

    Maddox , (edited )

    A point made by Morten Rand-Hendriksen: We software engineers are not real engineers. Unlike other kind of engineers, we do not have to follow industry code of conudct like meachincal engineers or civil engineers. We are just a bunch dudes that learned to use tensorflow on stackoverflow. That is why our work is dangerous and we can always just “be told” what to do for money.

    Airplanes could not be built like that. Calling ourselfs “engineers” is misleading as it suggest we follow some ethics or code of conduct. It will hurt us on the long run.

    LordShrek ,

    very interesting point

    HawlSera ,

    I’m not even joking, shit like this is bringing back my depression.

    wanderingmagus ,

    If it’s affecting your mental health, I highly recommend avoiding this side of social media and focusing on your needs. Don’t let the world drag you down with it.

    HawlSera ,

    I need to know

    gendulf ,

    It won’t affect your daily life, and if it does end up doing so, you can’t really have done much about it. Better to enjoy life. Go have coffee with a friend, find something to enjoy each day. Take a weekend road trip or camping trip and enjoy somewhere.

    HawlSera ,

    “I have to be interested in politics, because it won’t stop being interested in me.” As they say, if I know it’s coming, I can prepare for it

    Reliant1087 ,

    I mean Google becoming crappy is not something you can easily avoid. I have a medical procedure happening soon and I literally couldn’t find any non-corporate listicle on Google or bing. I ended up having to use mojeek to read stuff written by actual people.

    wanderingmagus ,

    TIL about Mojeek. I know this wasn’t the focus of your reply, but thanks for the tip.

    Reliant1087 ,

    :) No worries. I’m having more luck with search when using mojeek, startpage or duckduckgo.

    reev ,

    Check out Kagi.com if you’re interested in a new approach to search and are willing to put a bit of money towards it.

    Reliant1087 ,

    I’ve read quite a lot of positive things about kagi. Unfortunately the query/price is too high to be affordable to me right now.

    proflovski ,
    @proflovski@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m glad you don’t live in turkey where news and half of people are more cancer than this 💀💀

    doom_and_gloom ,
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    wanderingmagus ,

    Maybe it’d be healthier for all of us in the long run to just unplug, go outside, and visit a library or join a social club. Or we can just unplug from the internet corpo-net and go full Fediverse and FOSS. I’m sure there’s plenty of people already doing it here on Lemmy.

    LapGoat ,
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    Im here to vouch for camping, specifically burns.

    Its a great way to talk to folks in a generally left leaning environment, try new things, have wild experiences, and you all use your superhero names so nobody actually knows who you are.

    great way to disconnect from the internet in a made-up society that is a bit nicer, plus theres a cool fire

    linearchaos ,
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    It’s just a paywall with extra steps.

    Anyone that implements it I won’t use their content unless it’s absolutely necessary. I think stack exchange may be the only site that has enough pull for me to visit them anyway.

    Any browser that gets around it I’ll use instead. I’m already using Brave, Firefox and Edge instead of chrome.

    Really All this is going to do is create a opportunity for AI ad removal, Man in the middle rendering raster scraping the data removing anything that looks like an ad.

    Phlogiston ,

    That is a great idea for a browser extension. An AI module that hides ads and clicks x’s and generally fucks with their engagement numbers but don’t let any of it get to your eyeballs.

    linearchaos ,
    @linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

    yeah, DRM is a harder beast for a video feed, but static webpages? I don’t see how they could actually stop you if you’re rendering to the screen.

    czan ,

    Here you go: adnauseam.io

    diyrebel ,

    Really All this is going to do is create a opportunity for AI ad removal,

    It’s worse than that. As it stands, I’m blocked from ~30+% of the web because of Cloudflare. Unjailing the content into archive.org’s is indispensable. From the article:

    “Websites funded by ads require proof that their users are human and not bots”

    I already lose copious access to content as a human being treated like a bot. ’s plan is to take the next extreme. It’s the wrong direction.

    Robots work for the user, not against. I created a bot to find me a house because the real estate sites lacked the search criteria I needed. I scraped the sites & found the ideal house. This would be nearly impossible today & Google brings it closer to impossible.

    diyrebel , (edited )

    will make you want to unplug (as Cloudflare has done to me), but if you’re in Europe you will be unable to because European governments have already killed off offline infrastructure (). There are already a number of government transactions & public services that can no longer be done offline.

    cafeina ,

    Why cloudflare? Honest question

    diyrebel ,

    Cloudflare is an exclusive walled garden that blocks a marginalized¹ segment of people from most of their sites.

    ① People whose ISP uses , Tor users, users with text browsers, beneficial bots (which serve humans), impaired people (who can’t solve CF’s CAPTCHAs), those who distrust a US corp to have visibility on the plaintext contents of every single packet including usernames and passwords, etc.

    Spruce1538 ,

    why has no news site also added, “and they are using their monopoly over the web to do it” as part of their title. 😭

    Fish ,

    This is why I recently switched back to Firefox.

    FoxBJK ,
    @FoxBJK@midwest.social avatar

    While nice to do, it’s not going to solve the problem when the likes of Cloudflare are already on board with this. Apple has already implemented a similar system in Safari as well. Feels like the horse has already left the barn.

    Philosophically I want to agree with you, but when sites like banks and employment finders are going to require this it’s really going to create a horrible world of the haves and have-nots.

    2pt_perversion ,

    If google really does away with adblockers I expect many more will follow. I’m not even against unobtrusive ads but the few times I’ve been away from my own pihole / ublock browser setup and rawdogged the internet those ads were next level obnoxious. I can’t live like that.

    hairinmybellybutt ,

    Even if they do that, some people will just create illegal website mirrors that remove ads.

    On reddit, people already copy paste articles when there’s a paywall. I can totally envision that thing to be more common.

    I am not fucking kidding, I will stop using websites if I cannot block ads. This is non negotiable. I don’t care about your business model, I have zero money to give you. I tried the official reddit app, and uninstalled within a week.

    solitarius ,

    I’ve even seen websites that copy stackoverflow questions and answers word for word, and just displays them differently.

    thanks_shakey_snake ,

    I think that’s spammy SEO abuse though… Not circumventing ads or anything.

    _cerpin_taxt_ ,

    Well if the OG source uses DRM, fuck em! I don’t care if Google’s search engine goes to shit. Not sure how much shittier it can get, but fuck em!

    _cerpin_taxt_ ,

    I said this the other day and had a user suggest theirs no point because Google will win, and it’ll be impossible to avoid this DRM garbage. They didn’t seem to grasp that you can just not use the websites that use that tech.

    hairinmybellybutt ,

    I won’t use them then, and go offline I guess

    TheProtagonist ,

    Same here. Actually I uninstalled the official Reddit app within a day after seeing all these ads. My web experience is almost completely ad-free and if some ad or site comes around with ads ir user tracking, I don’t use it.

    I haven’t watched any un-proxied YouTube video for over five years now. Not sure how long this will still be possible in the future but I hope that also in the future people will find ways to circumvene big-tech surveillance.

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