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  • spez_ ,

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    Evkob ,
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    Convenience, not needing a dedicated MP3 player, music discovery via algorithms, being able to play stuff you haven’t already downloaded (ex: playing music at a gathering with friends is a lot more fun when anyone can just request basically any song imaginable and load it within seconds). These are my personal “excuses” anyway.

    I don’t and have never paid for Spotify with the idea I was supporting artists in doing so, but I still find it kinda funny that artists not getting paid well is your justification for not paying at all. Like I said I’m under no illusion that any artist I listen to is getting a significant payout from my streaming, and I’m very pro-piracy as well, but I do support artists I like through direct album/ticket/merch sales, or even via Patreon. Some of these artists I probably never would have discovered if it weren’t for my addiction to the Discover Weekly playlist Spotify spits out for me. I wish more people would do this though, especially for smaller acts.

    Also just an aside, but I feel like toning down the snark might get your point across better.

    Traister101 ,

    I mean my thing is like how much music do you need to have “on you” at all times? I’ve got ~130 mp3s on my phone and that’s just under half a gig. So you can have an easy 250 songs (~16 hours worth) for just a gigabyte of local storage. It’s pretty easy to download junk and if you really like an artist guess what, you already have all your music locally so when you get a tasty wav not a single thing has to change about how you listen to music.

    Evkob ,
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    I think we just have two very different use cases. I’ve used MP3 players and SD cards on smartphones in the past and for me streaming is such an upgrade.

    Dicovering new artists or albums would mean having to cull something else from my collection (or upgrade storage, which isn’t really always feasible/practical). Now, it’s as simple as right clicking and adding to a playlist. I can jump from Wu-Tang to The Mountain Goats to that one band that’s coming into town I might want to check out to fucking Crazy Frog if I feel so inclined. Sometimes I want Jack Johnson, sometimes I want Louis Armstrong, sometimes I want The Who.

    I don’t think I’ve listened to any of these artists for any particular amount in the past year or so, so why would I have them downloaded? But after listing them I might just go make a somewhat eclectic Spotify playlist.

    Traister101 ,

    Well I’m not like against Spotify and whatever else. I do use YouTube for what you are talking about but like my daily music, the stuff I want to like actually listen to when I feel like listening to music. Hell yeah that stuff is downloaded. I’m not tryna listen to Crazy Frog all the time, only when I’m feeling crazy.

    As for storage space, I really just don’t think that’s a problem nowadays. Course since it’s hard as fuck to get a micro SD card in a phone these days you can be stuck with whatever amount the manufacturer gave you but even then 2gb worth of space is 32hours worth of music. That’s a entire day and a half of listening to stuff before anything repeats. I honestly just can’t imagine the kind of person to cycle through music frequently enough where that’s a problem.

    Flaky ,
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    I use Apple Music, it fits my workflow better and I can supplement the streaming library with stuff I’ve got in my local library. Spotify technically allows that too but not as integrated as Apple Music.

    For discovery, I don’t use streaming algorithms as much, I’ve been using Rate Your Music for that. Got some great recommendations from its algorithms and its users. The site has been around since 2000 I believe, I’m convinced it will survive whatever the next phase of the internet will be.

    CmdrShepard ,

    250 songs will get stale pretty damned quickly. Back in the day I had a 4GB iPod Nano and iPod adapter in my car and would very quickly start hearing the same songs over and over. You could always swap out to a new playlist but where are you going to find new content/recommendations without putting in a ton of work?

    EssentialCoffee ,

    250 songs would bore the fuck out of me after a couple days if even it lasts that long.

    My current ‘main’ playlist has over 4K songs on it and they’re all from one genre. My liked songs alone has over 1K songs. In the last year, I listened to over 23K different tracks.

    Maybe you’re okay with just a handful of songs. That’s fine, but isn’t going to work for everyone.

    EngineerGaming , (edited )
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    I personally cannot imagine having my whole collection depend on a service like this. I use musical streaming for discovery (on free plans), and the actual collection is all local.

    Also I use Yandex Music because its recommendations just work for me. Tried Spotify several times but the algorithm just was consistently not getting it. Not to mention it wanted you to enable DRM and was frustratingly slow compared to other applications I use.

    Not needing a dedicated mp3 player

    Well, and Spotify doesn’t even give you such an option on the other hand. Only desktop and smartphone, probably wouldn’t allow one that is perma-offline, and only in the official proprietary app/webapp.

    theskyisfalling ,

    10 a month to rip unlimited 320 mp3s of anything they have on the service. Seems like a pretty good “excuse” to use it for me.

    Torrenting music is bullshit, soulseek is much better but still has massive gaps. Unless you are a part of a good private tracker then the Spotify price is a fucking bargain for all the files you could have…

    Also you bitch about them not giving over revenue or whatever but then torrent your music and don’t buy any…

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  • theskyisfalling ,

    Maybe you misunderstand when I say torrenting music is bullshit, what I mean is that unless you are on a private tracker or only want mainstream shit then you won’t find much torrenting. It is a bullshit method of music piracy for anything outside mainstream when using public trackers.

    I don’t even try and make out like I don’t use all the methods I list, you want to pirate music and I point out that for not a lot of money you can actively pirate what you like from them and then still support the more niche or local interests you have with the like of bandcamp.

    I also try and give back to the pirate music community in the form of adding everything I rip to my soulseek shares so lots of other people can access and share it. That is what piracy should be about, sharing that love.

    You sound like the kind of person whose average share ratio on a torrent is way below 1.

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  • theskyisfalling ,

    Good talking points. Have a great day.

    phillaholic ,

    I’m paying artists more through Spotify premium than you are through torrenting their music 🤷‍♂️

    CmdrShepard ,

    I have zero issues with piracy and have a gigantic media server full of pirated content but I don’t see how you square “company being hostile to artists and revenue sharing” with “I better pirate this music instead”

    I subscribe to Spotify because it’s convenient as fuck and has 99.9% of the music I want to listen to (and podcasts). Pirating music is a huge pain in the ass these days even with stuff like lidarr and private trackers.

    EngineerGaming ,
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    I conveniently download tracks from Yandex Music from Inspect -> Network. What is not there, I get from Youtube. I appreciate streaming for music discovery (Spotify in particular was meh for that though), but having my actual collection just there and not locally? I can’t really even comprehend that tbh, that seems limiting and inconvenient, not to mention lack of ownership.

    Chakravanti ,

    Did you feel foolish for subscribing to…fucking anything?? points to the Jolly Roger

    canis_majoris ,
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    No, I don’t feel foolish for having basically humanity’s entire music library available to me on a service.

    When I used to pirate off SoulSeek I was a lot more limited in what I listened to, but Spotify is more than just a music service as it acts as a reliable way to discover new and old music to your liking.

    Piracy is a service problem, and Spotify is a good service.

    Chakravanti ,

    No. No it isn’t.

    Kolanaki ,
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    Mine put me in Pittsburg. I’ve never even been there! But I can take a guess as to why… I like CKY 🤣

    RippleEffect ,

    Pittsburgh here too! Mine is because of from ashes to new, beartooth, and point north. An interesting selection I didn’t even realize I’ve been listening to

    I_Comment_On_EVERYTHING ,

    Fort Collins, Colorado for me

    NielsBohron ,
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    Bozeman, MT for me, apparently because I listen to a fair bit of Jason Isbell and other new-ish alt-country and Americana. Despite the fact that none of my top 5 artists are alt country, the rest of my listening is apparently eclectic enough that nothing else really came close.

    I would have thought that having 60-70% of my listening all in a small cluster of esoteric doom-metal-related subgenres would have placed me somewhere with some sort of a metal scene, but apparently not.

    I_Comment_On_EVERYTHING ,

    It’s kind of interesting to see all the weird correlations Spotify has pulled out of thin air. Apparently Fort Collins listens to a lot of Sleep Token, Brandi Carlile, and Jacob Collier.

    Masamune ,

    I was also placed in Fort Collins. Despite being your musical neighbor I don’t know any these bands. Wild.

    I_Comment_On_EVERYTHING ,

    Out of curiosity what bands did it use for your example?

    Also do yourself a favor and listen to Sleep Token and Jacob Collier.

    Specifically:

    For Sleep Token: youtu.be/uU5vVT_Cp7c?si=8BQSDhNCxGOAHjsr or youtu.be/44gbx5VEYPY?si=XNASMTOMohopmIhf

    Jacob Collier: youtu.be/IQvzX0Z3HE4?si=s_C9g57JH69gaKYj and youtu.be/nspqYGz-Z1s?si=yleeBaKox1Cxm8yW

    Masamune ,

    My top 5 were Walk the Moon, Dr. Dre, St. Lucia, Passion Pit, and Muse. I will check out your recommendations, always down for some new tunes. Thanks!

    I_Comment_On_EVERYTHING ,

    Oh man Muse and Walk the Moon are some of my regulars. Haven’t heard of St. Lucia or Passion Pit, I’ll have to give those a listen.

    canis_majoris ,
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    I listen to a mix of classic rock, alt rock, blues and hip-hop and it gave me Bozeman as well.

    AA5B ,

    That’s fairly close to me as well. Phew, I was worried I might like Country

    retro ,

    Fort Collins, CO also

    Ookami38 ,

    Same. Seems a weird choice, but ok Spotify

    lolcatnip ,

    I’m pretty sure I’d know already if I was gay.

    funkajunk ,
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    I dunno, you ever sucked a dick?

    captainlezbian ,

    Yeah but it was attached to a woman so I’m still gay

    JaddedFauceet ,

    Huh? How?

    captainlezbian ,

    Well if a woman does sexual acts on another woman it’s considered gay

    tsonfeir ,
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    If there’s a strap on, it’s not gay. It’s just being nice.

    captainlezbian ,

    A) it’s still very gay, I’m not doing it to be nice I’m doing it because she’s hot as fuck and I want her to fuck me B) I’ve also gone down on trans women, which is also gay of me

    funkajunk ,
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    It’s very gay, that’s kind of the point.

    tsonfeir ,
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    I’m being playful.

    lolcatnip ,

    Nope. Never saw the appeal.

    Zerfallen ,

    Maybe it’s more about the taste, the texture, the subtle off-white coloring. The tasteful thickness of it. Oh my God, it even has a watermark.

    mriormro ,
    @mriormro@lemmy.world avatar

    Yep, I got Burlington with The Mountain Goats, Fleet Foxes, and Julia Jacklin.

    I’m a straight, cis guy but my friends often tell me I listen to ‘sad boi’ music so 🤷🏽.

    grasshopper_mouse ,
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    I got Helsinki, Finland for Battledragon, Brother Firetribe, and Velvet

    Land_Strider ,

    Got the same, Helsinki Finland but for Carpenter Brut and other synth artists.

    skeeter_dave ,

    I was placed in Salt Lake City, Utah. I guess I’m Mormon?

    Burn_The_Right ,

    You guess? Statistically, you are so Mormon, Spotify knows what kind of underwear you have on.

    state_electrician ,

    Freiburg im Breisgau. Wrapped called me an Alchemist. And I was in the top 3 of listeners for Sabaton this year.

    FabledAepitaph ,

    I got Boulder, CO for Foxygen, Broken Bells, and Blind Pilot.

    Okkai ,

    I also got Boulder with top 3 of King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, Portugal. The Man, and Flatbush Zombies

    FabledAepitaph ,

    Portugal., heck yeah!

    systemglitch ,

    It never gave me a city. It worked for my partner. I’m kinda pissed I wasted my time on this.

    seaQueue ,
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    I see the gay agenda is proceeding as planned

    ElBarto ,
    @ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Well let’s go find out if I’m gay.

    Edit: Nope, not gay unfortunately.

    LinkOpensChest_wav ,
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    I’m gay, and I got Portland

    agnostictofu ,
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    Also Portland!

    DemBoSain ,
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    cool, do you know that other guy?

    DontTreadOnBigfoot ,
    @DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh, you’re that kind of gay… 😒

    quotheraven404 ,

    I got Portland too!! I’m bi but I mostly listen to Spotify at work where almost everyone else is gay haha

    CmdrShepard ,

    Curious what’s in your top artists? I have The Midnight, Kalax, Timecop1984, and other Retrowave/Synthwave type music and got Seattle, but I live near Portland.

    LinkOpensChest_wav ,
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    They placed me in Portland based on the Smoking Popes, The Jesus Lizard, and Flipper

    It said people in Portland tend to be fans of those bands

    killeronthecorner ,
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    I got Burlington! I’m not gay as far as I’m aware but whenever someone asks me what kind of music I like in the future, the answer will be “gay music”.

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