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avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

This is a CD vs FLAC discussion.

SkunkWorkz ,

Not really, some emulators forgo accuracy for speed, since some emulators are unplayably slow when you turn on the 100% accuracy. Speedrunning some games that rely on glitches/exploits have to be done on original hardware or an FPGA solution that’s 100% accurate. Otherwise some glitches just won’t work since a software emulator lays out the memory differently, doesn’t do the instructions in the exact same order or is just too fast. So emulators are lossy.

saltesc ,

It’s why I’ve used a GameCube controller on the Wii, WiiU, and Switch—coincidentally I adore the Switch Pro controller on PC. And yet, a friend of mine thinks I’m crazy and still rocks the N64 controller.

Some things just fuse into you and you get more dopamine from the “thing” than the thing playing on it.

aeronmelon ,

There’s something relaxing about swapping carts on a SNES.

TheTeej107 ,

And booting up an OS, running the emulator, and selecting a save state just ruins the experience of playing a retro console.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Sadly my SNES tends to reset games when jostled, so it’s gotten a little less relaxing for me.

Empricorn ,

Emulators won’t do that to you.

Kecessa ,

Why would you swap carts when all you need is Super Mario World?

thomasloven ,

LTTP slip your mind?

Kecessa ,

Yeah but… SMW?

Empricorn ,

Uh… Secret of Mana? Super Metroid? Fucking Chrono Trigger!?

Diabolo96 ,

I’d understand if it was about the controllers since the games were made to work specifically with them, but choosing to pay several hundred dollars instead of juste using something that cost less than a 100 and got far better UI and features is something i’ll Never understand. Tho, It would make sense if you had that console as a child and getting the real one make you feel nostalgic.

galloFino ,

Where is the raspberry pi at 30$??? it is more than that nowadays

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

They’re inflated right now, depending on where you buy them. I got one for MSRP (around 30 bucks) last year at my local electronics store, but I had to give them my info to deter scalping.

Telodzrum ,

“Right now” for Pi inflation has been since like 2016. This is just their price now.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Well that sucks. I’ve heard the competitors are pretty good now though.

Telodzrum ,

Yeah, there’s a lot of competition in SBC these days. People seem to like the OrangePi lineup and some others.

Trainguyrom ,

Or for anything where a miniPC would do the same job, there’s tons of miniPCs running 7th gen and older processors available for peanuts since Microsoft arbitrarily declared them to be incompatible with Windows 11, and Windows 10 goes EOL in just 13 months.

HP prodesks for example are down to $100ish on eBay

curbstickle ,

An official raspberry pi isn’t worth gettin imo. Especially after their artificial availability issues during the pandemic.

Plenty of alternatives out there, which is what I’d recommend. OrangePi is much more reasonable price wise.

And if you don’t need arm, a used thin client will do the same job, cost a lot less, and have more compatibility.

Aceticon ,

It’s got to the point were for the price of a Pi 5 plus necessary kit, youcan just get a Mini PC with an Intel N100 (maybe the only decent thing Intel has done in the last couple of years) which has a lot more power and expandability though it consumes 15W instead of 7W and would probably be a better choice for running emulators.

mesamunefire ,

I’m hoping risc-v can join soon at reasonable speeds.

c0smokram3r ,
@c0smokram3r@midwest.social avatar

Exactly what I was wondering!!!

TrousersMcPants ,

Yeah I basically got this exact advice and was surprised to realize they cost much more than that anymore.

Slayan ,

www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-3-model-b.html

Here ya go! You don’t need the last edition pi to use retro arch, enjoy.

turkalino ,
@turkalino@lemmy.yachts avatar

Yeah I’m a huge Raspberry Pi fan but not only is it practically impossible to find a pi at that price, pi’s also can’t reliably emulate games past the 32 bit era

Tuxman ,

Honestly, I will emulate almost all consoles EXCEPT N64…. This little weird Frankenstein console barely holds by a thread so most emulators can’t recreate its flaws and quirks correctly (which, funnily enough, are needed to run games smoothly)

PS2 emulators on the other hand, are FREAKING awesome!!! :D Live upscaled Battlefront 2 is GREAT!!

can , (edited )

Still waiting for an N64 emulator that renders Bomberman 64 menu properly

Bread ,

What about an FPGA for running the original game cartridges? Such as the Analogue 3D when that eventually releases. Quirks and all included as it becomes the N64. It even supports Bluetooth controllers too and 4k or CRTs.

Tuxman ,

If it works well, I’m all for it! 😁

(In the past years I’ve seen too many hyped projects just crash on release, so I’ll be observing the progress but I won’t be praising something that’s not even out yet)

Bread ,

This is true, but Analogue has a great reputation already in this space from their other products so I am hopeful.

art ,
@art@lemmy.world avatar

Where’s the lie?

can ,

No one said there was one

RootBeerGuy ,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

That RPIs first of all do not cost only 30 dollars anymore. And the ones you might find that are so cheap will not be able to actually run stuff from maybe N64 upwards. The more lower end they are the less will it work well.

Omgboom ,

N100’s are where it’s at, definitely more expensive than $30. But so much more power for the money.

PriorityMotif ,
@PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

You can also buy ryzen 3000 based mini or sff PCs for less than $100.

_sideffect ,

Get a mister.

It IS the original hardware; its an FPGA

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

It perfectly emulates the CPU, but it’s not the same as touching the actual hardware. For better or worse.

frezik ,

We can’t even say it perfectly emulates the CPU. It may pass all tests we know about, but even 1980s CPUs were complicated enough to have odd niche behavior.

It’s some great hardware, but I think a lot of people have been hoodwinked into thinking FPGA = perfect. Often some of the same people who turn their nose up at software emulation for equally bad reasons.

Sabin10 ,

Not always, the mister would need more elements to do an actual 1:1 for many newer consoles and the cores are often reverse engineered best guesses and not replicating the original asic design.

On the other hand, original hardware goes through revisions and the silicon can change (snes 1chip vs 2chip for example) while still be perfectly compatible so it really depends ho much of a stickler you are.

TORFdot0 ,

It’s also about as cheap to just buy the original consoles than a kitted out mister.

Although if you figure in AV switches, upscalers and everdrive carts, the price for convenience does swing back into the misters favor

LunarLoony ,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

The Neo-Geo would like a word

DarkMetatron ,

I barely touch my original hardware at all since I have my MiSTer it is just so good.

Geometrinen_Gepardi ,

What’s the benefit of it versus emulation?

DarkMetatron ,

It is FPGA based, due to this it can be configured on hardware level to exactly replicate the original hardware of the retro system. This and that it runs directly and not through some emulation layer and modern OS and stuff means that it gets as close as original as it can be, with zero lag and delay.

michaelmrose ,

Do you perceive noticable lag when emulating on a modern PC?

DarkMetatron ,

Not only perceive, it is often multiple frames from multiple lag sources (input lag of the USB controller or even worse Bluetooth, display lag from the monitor, rendering lag from the emulator, framebuffer lag). Playing fast paced games with frame perfect movement (Megaman on the NES for example) is so much harder on a emulator with all the lag, even on very recent hardware.

abfarid ,
@abfarid@startrek.website avatar

It’s still emulation. Yes, it’s emulating hardware, as close as possible and often indistinguishably close, but it’s still emulation.

For example, my EDGB X7 runs fine on any real Game Boy I have, but can’t switch games on an Analogue Pocket.
Another weird issue that I had was that if I launched my Pokemon Crystal save on Pocket it would, for some reason, permanently change my character from a boy into a girl (without saving the game!). This wasn’t happening on my Game Boys (I restored the save a couple of times to test it).

DarkMetatron ,

It is not emulation, it is hardware replication. And yes it is not always perfect. As with any replicated or cloned hardware it is just as good as the available information and the skill of the manufacturer.

abfarid ,
@abfarid@startrek.website avatar

Sure, however you choose to call it, it’s not “original hardware”.

DarkMetatron ,

True and I would never call it original hardware. But it is so much closer to original hardware then emulation ever could be.

SRo ,

I mean, you are buying analogue products, so what do you know anyway.

abfarid ,
@abfarid@startrek.website avatar

You’re clearly just trying to pick a fight, but care to point out what I said wrong?

SRo ,

Fariiiid doesn’t know shiiiiit.

proton_lynx ,

Now this is the real solid advice

RightHandOfIkaros ,

By its very nature, an FPGA is not original hardware.

An FPGA is hardware that is designed to be very similar to original hardware, but it does not actually use original hardware components, and because of this it can actually have bugs or inaccuracies that were never present in original hardware.

aidan ,

An FPGA is hardware that is designed to be very similar to original hardware,

Well to be even more precise, its designed to be able to replicate most hardware of anything. Not designed for a specific device

xyzzy ,

Mister people are equally obnoxious about this

DumbAceDragon ,
@DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s usually the reverse in my experience. I love playing on original hardware when I have access, but some people get really anal when you emulate.

cambionn ,
@cambionn@feddit.nl avatar

Agree. There’s just something special about doing it the original way. Booting up that old console just like in the past, no matter if I had it back then or not.

That being said, I don’t get the hate on emulation either. To each their own.

Rhynoplaz ,

I never liked ROMs on my computer, but I have a modded SNES Mini that feels legit enough for me.

iAmTheTot ,

Steam Deck is the best emulation machine out there right now for me.

MeatsOfRage , (edited )

I’ve been thinking about getting the new pixel fold or the Samsung z flip fold. When you open them to tablet mode they’re a big square screen. When you clip on a controller it looks like a sick retro gaming handheld because of the screen ratio.

youtu.be/giPJ8bjCxN4?si=Mv8-68Dh8_ID9Ct0

Exusia , (edited )
@Exusia@lemmy.world avatar

You linked a Fold not a Flip. The difference is nearly $1000.

That said the Fold is a solid choice but if you’re only going to play games, save a couple bucks and don’t get a 6. The improvements have been so incremental you might be able to make due with a 4 or 5.

hobbsc ,
@hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Do emulators like lemuroid take up the whole screen on the inside of the fold?

I was debating on a tablet or the pixel fold and I saw a video where it showed that the inside screen was basically two screens and man apps just displayed in the middle with black borders on either side.

Exusia , (edited )
@Exusia@lemmy.world avatar

That’s gonna come down to aspect ratio. The inner screen is 4:3 so it might come down to the game? This Gameboy color game doesn’t fill the screen but this emulator seems to be more for 3ds. I have the Fold4 for perspective.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/5beb9034-5404-4210-bcf2-c8b819c5f907.jpeg

hobbsc ,
@hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Thanks so much for the screenshot!

Blue_Morpho ,

That’s a $2000 gaming setup! ($1900 for z fold, $100 for gamesir controller.)

I think I’ll just get a Powkiddy RGB30 with a square screen for $80.

MeatsOfRage ,

I mean, it’s a phone + tablet first. The gaming is a nice bonus. Plus you really don’t need the fold 6 when the 5 will do just fine.

Blue_Morpho ,

Fold 5 is still like $1000 refurbished. Again compared to $80 Powkiddy. Plus a few hours of gaming doesn’t take away from your phone battery life.

StopJoiningWars ,
@StopJoiningWars@discuss.online avatar

Why do you enjoy denigrating people’s choices? You’re not the only one capable of rationality. It might make total sense from their perspective and financial situation.

Blue_Morpho ,

Suggesting a much cheaper alternative that has some benefits isn’t degrading anyone.

StopJoiningWars ,
@StopJoiningWars@discuss.online avatar

I didn’t say degrading, that wouldn’t even work grammatically. I said denigrating, “to criticise unfairly, disparage”.

Learn something. And stop putting other people’s ideas down.

Blue_Morpho ,

“disparage”

Suggesting an alternative isn’t disparaging anyone.

Suggesting alternatives isn’t putting people’s ideas down.

StopJoiningWars ,
@StopJoiningWars@discuss.online avatar

If you’d stopped at telling others what you’re doing. But no, you must feel righteous in criticising their choices of device, why they use it, and how much they spend on them.

People don’t owe you explanations for any of that.

MeatsOfRage ,

We’ve literally just recreated the meme here in the comments.

“It’d be pretty cool to have a flip phone to double as a big emulation handhel…”

Tuba on face

“A PEWKITTY IS $80 AND YOU GET TO CARRY MULTIPLE DEVICES AND A MUCH SMALLER SCREEN AND…”

smeg ,

I’m glad clip-on controllers exist now, I remember reading about them when using my Xperia Play a decade ago!

iheartneopets ,

I have a surface duo 2 right now, and had the Motorola razor (rip the iconic chin design they ditched with the new models) before that. Emulating the ds on a flip phone is goated

denshirenji ,
@denshirenji@lemmy.world avatar

This is similar to what I do. I have an old pixel 3xl and a Sunshine server running on my gaming PC. Moonlight is installed on the Pixel and I stream my games to it from the PC. I have a WireGuard VPN setup for when I am outside the house. It works very well!

Edit: Inside the house, I have a Rasbery Pi 5 with Libreelec installed which has a Moonlight addon as well for when I want to play on my big screen TV.

Trainguyrom ,

I worked for a phone manufacturer that makes foldable for a while. I really got the strong feeling that those foldable displays make them extremely sensitive to any drops or abuse that a traditional chocolate bar would easily survive. And I’ve heard similar feedback from early adopters as well

anivia ,

Too clunky. Modded Nintendo Switch is more portable and has better battery life

iAmTheTot ,

Will respectfully disagree. My steam deck can do way more than a Switch!

MarauderIIC ,

What’s your favorite emulated game on Steam Deck?

iAmTheTot ,

I’ve found myself playing a fair bit of my 3DS, Wii, and WiiU libraries, and revisiting some PS2 games. I also have been using it to play my PS5 in bed via remote play!

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