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DrM , in We'll refactor this next year anyways

The only thing that has the chance to prevent unmaintainable garbage code is a plethora of linting rules.

Lifter ,

That may lead to over-refactoring, leading to unmaintainable garbage code.

DrM ,

yeah thats why I said it only has the chance, not that it leads to good code

mikyopii , in Classic Amazon
@mikyopii@programming.dev avatar

Those aren’t real classified documents. They aren’t marked correctly.

Starbuck ,

For anyone wondering what a document should look like, the DoD publishes that for anyone to read. Just search Derivative Classifier Training. Spoiler alert: this ain’t what a top secret document looks like.

danc4498 , in Developing a third party UI for a platform you use frequently feels like this sometimes

My wife wants a horn in the passenger seat so she can rage for me.

ptz OP ,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

😆

That’s actually not a bad idea.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

If my wife got to honk at every driver she got mad at from the passenger seat i would lose a lot more fights

Skullgrid , in Developing a third party UI for a platform you use frequently feels like this sometimes
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

I watch too many videos on expensive guitar pedals I can’t afford.

I’m “on the bench” at the outsourcing company I work for and I am starting to seriously consider going into DSP programming just so I can work on doing this to effects controls.

I want to make knobs available for this this this and this parameter.

can , (edited )

I’ve had that feeling too but luckily bitwig makes a lot of that easily done natively.

Edit: I’d love to make a CLAP plugin someday though.

Conyak , in We'll refactor this next year anyways

In my experience it doesn’t matter. You have to regularly refactor your code to keep up with new features. The more often you can make time to do it the easier it is.

SolarMech ,

This, to a point.

Other things help :

  • Unit test to help catch regressions. If you are confident in your test catching a good portion of bugs from refactoring, at least you feel confident refactoring. Worst case, at least you ensured your code is testable. There is nothing worse than refactoring untestable code.
  • Self-documenting code and when it fails to self-document, comments or refer to a wiki page.
twig , in We'll refactor this next year anyways

There is nothing more permanent than a temporary solution that works

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

In my first month at my current employer, I added some temporary code with a TODO to fix it properly. That was 11 years ago in 2013, and the same TODO is still there today, and these days it’d be significantly harder to do it. 😂

Beanie ,

If it gets comitted to master, TODO means never do.

python , in Junior Dev VS Senior Dev

My homeoffice setup is right next to a window, so it’s too bright for dark mode during the summer. So I work in light mode from about April-September and in dark mode for the rest of the year

jimmydoreisalefty , in He revealed the secrets !
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

hahaha, this reminds me of certain politicians…

Where they say the quiet part out loud, while most people will ignore it and the status quo continues as is.

We don’t want the Silicon Valley bubble to imploding, right?

p.s. would burst be a better word than imploding? word of the day…

s12 ,

Explosion?

jimmydoreisalefty ,
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, that one would work!

Seems, I wanted an excuse to use the word, ‘implode’, hahaha

vk6flab ,
@vk6flab@lemmy.radio avatar

Yes officer … right here …

Terrorism? No. Nothing to do with chemistry it’s something much more insidious…

THAT’S a PHP programmer. Look how they’re fixated on implode() vs. explode() …

mexicancartel ,

Explode

jimmydoreisalefty ,
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

That would work!

I seem to prefer the pronunciation of the prefix of ‘implode’ vs ‘explode’, a bit too much, hahaha

s12 , in He revealed the secrets !

The IT people! The DEV team’s worst nemesis! They must be stopped before we are destroyed!

TheBat ,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Reboots your server

Changes your credentials

blackluster117 ,
@blackluster117@possumpat.io avatar

Eats your pasta

Steve , in He revealed the secrets !

Aren’t IT people just janitors that tell you to turn it off and back on again?

mikyopii ,
@mikyopii@programming.dev avatar

I’ve been an actual janitor and a sysadmin… they’re not dissimilar. You clean up other people’s shit for a living.

a4ng3l ,

So do I but with exception of the unfortunate cp that calls for bleaching eyes (and security) one is more sanitary than the other…

datavoid ,

I hope you work with the public, sounds like a weird organization

Zorsith ,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Any day you/your company could potentially be contacted by a 3 letter agency and/or the police to pull the data from a specific user for an investigation. “ESI request” is a term I hear on occasion.

It’s a good idea to be on good terms with your employers lawyers.

papabobolious ,

I’ll just tell them about GDPR

a4ng3l ,

Telco. Back then I was internal investigation. 25k employees. Bound to have some bad apples unfortunately. Honestly not weirder than elsewhere.

parpol ,

They don’t even exist anymore. They’ve been replaced by devops programmers.

vk6flab , in He revealed the secrets !
@vk6flab@lemmy.radio avatar

It’s mind bending that there are actual humans on the planet, paid a shit tonne more than software developers, who not only believe the parody highlighted by @SwiftOnSecutity, but treat and share it as gospel, acting on it with nutjob metrics to “increase productivity” whilst salivating over the hyperbole around “AI” that is sweeping the globe, dreaming of a better world.

One without those pesky developers with their brains, thoughts and opinions.

But, what do I know, I’ve been in this profession for only 40 years…

themeatbridge ,

You’re probably not the biggest asshole in the room. In my experience, the person making decisions (and the most money) is never the most qualified, most competent, most efficient, or hardest working individual. They are just the biggest asshole in the room. They’re willing to be loud and belligerently wrong, they’re willing to take credit for the accomplishments of others, they’re willing to shift blame onto someone else, they’re willing to demand everyone else work harder than they do, and they’re willing to demand far more than their fair share of the profit.

And they will be mollified by the rest because nobody is a bigger asshole. Most people just want to do their jobs, and don’t want to rock the boat. Competent people see opportunity to ride in the wake of the biggest asshole in the room.

If you ever watch Shark Tank, you’ll see they are masters of the craft.

whereisk ,

The problem is that most of us have swallowed the ‘competence uber alles’ ideal that school fed us through exams and scoring, when the game really is mostly politics (as in interpersonal relationships). So we are understandably disappointed when the incompetent get promoted through brown nosing or luck, when we should be reevaluating the rules of the game.

themeatbridge ,

That’s a lie that assholes tell you in order to exploit your competence and effort.

SlopppyEngineer ,

They are just the biggest asshole in the room

That’s always fun in sales. The vendor that brazenly promises two-and-a-half mirage for half the price will win the bid, and the sales people will move on to a different employer when the real budget for the project becomes clear.

jadero ,

They are just the biggest asshole in the room.

So one day the different body parts were arguing over who should be in charge.

The eyes said they should be in charge, because they were the primary source of information about the world.

The stomach said it should be in charge because digestion was the source of energy.

The brain said it should be in charge because it was in charge of information processing and decision-making.

The rectum said nothing, just closed up shop.

Before long, the vision was blurry, the stomach was queasy, and the brain was foggy.

Assholes have been in charge ever since.

Skullgrid , (edited )
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

You know what they do to old engineers don’t you?

EDIT : youtu.be/fN-VAdAnoZ4?t=31

" you know what they do with engineers when they turn 40? they take them out and shoot them"

db2 ,

Does it involve quicklime?

vvv ,

I’ll take it over QuickTime

Skullgrid , (edited )
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

I think I botched the Office space quote, I thought tom said something at some point about

“you know what they do to old engineers don’t you? They take them out back and gun noise

EDIT : youtu.be/fN-VAdAnoZ4?t=31

" you know what they do with engineers when they turn 40? they take them out and shoot them"

db2 ,

You’re good, I was making an unrelated BOFH reference, even more obscure. 🤣

Skullgrid ,
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

I fixed it, it’s from Primer.

EDIT : youtu.be/fN-VAdAnoZ4?t=31

" you know what they do with engineers when they turn 40? they take them out and shoot them"

marcos ,

That movie was… … …something!

psion1369 , in He revealed the secrets !

I used to joke with my niece that my programming job was just me staring at screens and meetings all day. She didn’t believe me until she got to shadow me one day and got super bored.

dan1101 ,

But when your brain is fascinated by all that has to happen for those screens and meetings to happen, it can still be an interesting job.

BurningTurtle ,
@BurningTurtle@programming.dev avatar

What did she think before?

whotookkarl ,
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

Not op but guessing she had an idea from media like TV shows and movies that make technical jobs seem much more exciting for entertainment over realism. Crises are usually more Jerry accidentally deleted a directory and we need to recover some files and establish safe guard procedures to prevent it from happening again or this thing broke that nobody even knew existed so we gotta figure it out and less type fast enough to save the mainframe from l33t hackers.

mormegil ,
@mormegil@programming.dev avatar

It’s not as easy as it sounds, sometimes the screens are all wrong!! xkcd.com/722/

fckreddit , in He revealed the secrets !

Ok, the jig is up. We are exposed. Better pack our bags and get out while we can.

Hundun , in He revealed the secrets !

As a programmer, I concur. I sit on my arse all day pushing keys , anybody can do that.

ursakhiin ,

The biggest thing he got wrong is the assumption that it’s good programmers writing libraries.

synae ,
@synae@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

You gotta push them in the right order

grrgyle ,

Just install a library to do that

fubarx , in He revealed the secrets !

Wait till they find out what software ‘architects’ really do.

maryjayjay ,

They do the same thing building architects do. They draw pretty pictures of the end product that may of may not be structurally sound, then rely on engineers to build it and make sure it doesn’t collapse.

marcos ,

Wait, did you find out? Can you tell us?

fubarx ,

Sorry, I don’t have enough certifications to answer that question.

Speculater ,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

I tried to get a software architect to explain their job to me once, it was like a “lean startup”, a libertarian, and a psychic had written an elevator pitch together.

rimjob_rainer ,

A good software engineer is also an architect. You don’t need dedicated architects if you have good developers.

But on the other hand there are much more questionable and unnecessary jobs like product managers or managers of managers.

xmunk ,

I disagree with not needing dedicated architects at least once you reach a certain size. If there are 50 plus developers working on a dozen or more projects there’s a large communication cost to stay on top of everything.

fruitycoder ,

I always saw architects roles in modern development being the person trying to find synergies between different teams andcoordinateing them working with each other.

Like if some team makes a sick project for managing streams of data streams the architect should be promoting it for other teams to leverage.

xmunk ,

That’s one role, as a software architect I also often served as the sunk cost fallacy bad news delivery system. It’s a good idea to keep some eyes from outside your team on your project just to do the occasional sensibility check.

There is also a large responsibility to make sure different teams are well coordinated and not building the system in directly opposing directions. It really fucking sucks to have your work, as a developer, invalidated by someone else’s work suddenly without any warning.

Aceticon ,

The good ones: design and adjust software development processes, standards for cross-project functionality and reusability and in general try and improve at a high level the process of making, maintaining and improving software in a company.

The bad ones: junior/mid-level software design with a thick layer of bullshit on top to spin it as advanced stuff.

If you want to see bad software architecture, just look at most of Google’s frameworks and libraries.

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