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Sternhammer , in When your iRobot finally achieve teleportation
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It wanted to end its suffering. Blue jaunt.

jol , in When your iRobot finally achieve teleportation

Let me guess, you live in Europe? That looks like your roomba wandered off to Null Island.

zinderic OP ,

I think this model can reach Null Island from anywhere, doesn’t have to be Europe. Can’t wait to see what else it’s capable of. But kind of hoping it won’t murder me in my sleep.

jol ,

I meant from the relative position on the map, it looks like you’re in Europe and the robot is in null island.

ZILtoid1991 , in Demand ad companies take security seriously first and maybe we'll talk.

I often disable my adblocker on sites of smaller and more independent news companies, if they don’t run Google ads (I’ve heard them getting dropped in countries like Hungary and Russia for obvious reasons).

devilish666 , in Demand ad companies take security seriously first and maybe we'll talk.

What website that ask you to disable antivirus ? Capt ?

ptz OP ,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

They don’t, because it would be an insane proposition. The point of the meme is to say that asking to disable my ad blocker is like asking me to disable my antivirus.

Ad companies don’t or very poorly vet their submissions, and it’s incredibly easy for malicious actors to slip hostile code in through ads. Ad blockers prevent that and are a first line of defense.

ZILtoid1991 ,

Not websites, but some people ask it to use their applications/games, that turn out to be viruses.

youtu.be/G3zkBWXR554?si=mR6wXNvI_74-Jj4m

eskuero , in When your iRobot finally achieve teleportation
@eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws avatar

iKidnapped

rimu , in [Request] Looking for resources on terrible algorithms, architecture, and design
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jubilationtcornpone ,

“EvErYtHiNg ShOuLd Be A mIcRo SeRvIcE” --Executive Who Doesn’t Have to Maintain Said Microservices

sirdorius , (edited )

I unironically had a screening interview with a recruiter that asked “If you were creating a startup, would you use microservices?”. She didn’t like that my answer was “It depends, I don’t have enough information to answer”.

Redkey ,

“If you were making food, would you use onion powder?”

Blackmist , in Demand ad companies take security seriously first and maybe we'll talk.

Don’t be silly. Wrap your willy.

I_am_10_squirrels ,

Don’t stick your oar in lake Katchakootie

Kolanaki , in Demand ad companies take security seriously first and maybe we'll talk.
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

If I saw a popup tell me to disable my antivirus Id nope out of there even faster than the ones that demand I disable my ad blocker.

ptz OP ,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

Yep. I see popups asking to disable adblocker the same way as that.

Allero ,

Back in the days it was a regular feature of pirated software, and worst part is, in many cases it was legit as some antiviruses like Kaspersky seemingly went for full on crusade against piracy

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

It’s still a regular feature of pirated software.

Allero ,

Oh jeez

Haven’t seen in a while

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Windows Defender hates keygens.

Schadrach ,

To take that a step further, it hates key server emulators for Microsoft products more. To the point that AutoKMS and the like are listed multiple times and periodically get relisted as something new so that even if you’ve flagged it as being allowed it will still eventually get re-blocked in the future.

Corbin , in [Request] Looking for resources on terrible algorithms, architecture, and design

There are subfields of computer science dedicated to this question. A good starting point for the theory would be Pessimal algorithms and simplexity analysis, which lays out two concepts:

  • The time & space simplexity of an algorithm indicates best-case lower bounds on resource usage, and
  • An algorithm is pessimal if no equivalent algorithm wastes more time/space/etc.

For example, common folklore is that sorting has O(n lg n) time complexity, depending on assumptions. In the paper, they give that sorting has Ω(n ** (lg n / 2)) time simplexity; any algorithm which takes more time, like bogosort, must do so through some sort of trickery like non-determinism or wasting time via do-nothing operations.

mo8it , in [Request] Looking for resources on terrible algorithms, architecture, and design
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I_Has_A_Hat , in huggingface.co

Fun fact, that is canonically Spear, the caveman from Tartakovsky’s show Primal.

agamemnonymous ,
@agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works avatar

Is it? He looks very different

entropicdrift ,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

This episode of Dexter’s Lab first aired more than 20 years before the first episode of Primal (Feb 1998 vs Oct 2019). A bit of visual discrepancy is to be expected

Blue_Morpho ,

Primal is how Spear sees himself. Dexter’s Lab is how Dexter sees Spear.

southernwolf ,
@southernwolf@pawb.social avatar

Damn, I didn’t know that!

DoctorWhookah ,

That show was amazing. No dialogue to speak of. I really enjoyed it.

Morgoon ,

That is fun, the only other media I’ve seen like that is Quest for Fire (1981) starring Ron Pearlman

Klear ,

Flew under my radar. Gotta watch that. Which reminds me I still need to finish off Samurai Jack. I think I stopped somewhere in the last season of the old series and I want to watch that before I get to the new episodes, which I hear are excellent.

Of course, I’ll probably want to finish off the few lingering pieces of new trek. And I gotta watch all of that before second season of Arcane comes out, since that will take priority as soon as it comes out. And…

…fuck.

DoctorWhookah ,

TIL there is a second season of Arcane!

Klear ,

Not yet, but later this year. Hope it’s good.

DoctorWhookah ,

Thanks for being… Klear.

I’ll show myself out.

Klear ,

Please do.

natecox ,
@natecox@programming.dev avatar

Prioritize Primal. It is a truly unique and awesome show.

alphacyberranger ,
@alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works avatar

I love Primal

sus , (edited ) in [Request] Looking for resources on terrible algorithms, architecture, and design

slow inverse square root:


<span style="color:#323232;">float slowinvsqrt(float x)
</span><span style="color:#323232;">{
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    const long accuracy = 100000000;    // larger number = better accuracy
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    if (x <= 0.0f) {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        return NAN;
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    }
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    if (x == 1.0f) {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        return 1.0f;
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    }
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    if (x < 1.0f) {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        return 1.0f / slowinvsqrt(1.0f/x);
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    }
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    int max_power = log(accuracy) / log(x);
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    long pow1 = pow(x, max_power - 1);
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    long pow2 = pow(x, max_power);
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    double current = 1.0;
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    double previous = 1.0;
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    for (long i = 0; i<10*accuracy; i++) {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        current = sin(current);
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        if (i == pow1) {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">            previous = current;
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        }
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        if (i == pow2) {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">            return current / previous;
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        }
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    }
</span><span style="color:#323232;">}
</span>
KillingTimeItself , (edited ) in It's time to mentally prepare yourselves for this

i still think timezones were a mistake, and that they shouldn’t exist period. I have a long thread about this from an earlier post about timezones as well amusingly enough.

1917isnow ,
@1917isnow@lemmy.ml avatar

I think it would be intuitive to people after a while

KillingTimeItself ,

it’s the less arbitrary version of having timezones, the only difference is that the time doesn’t change, because it doesn’t it’s the solar time that changes.

qjkxbmwvz ,

As a social construct, I like that I can be anywhere in the world and know that around noon is probably an appropriate time for lunch, etc.

KillingTimeItself ,

there is no appropriate time for lunch. And besides you wanna know a better way to figure it out? Go outside.

min_fapper ,

Yeah that doesn’t work if you live in Seattle.

KillingTimeItself ,

damn, if only there was like, this thing, that tracked time. And it was like, relative to the solar time that we experience here on earth, but like, not explicitly that solar time, so you could just like, offset it slightly, to get the correct local solar time.

Man, what a difficult and challenging issue to solve.

puppy ,

Did you just describe timezones?

rektdeckard ,
@rektdeckard@lemmy.world avatar

I think they’re proposing personal time zones, where every individual’s clock shows their precise solar time, and nobody ever manages to be on time to work ever again.

towerful ,

Good god, imagine 360 timezones to describe each longitude.
Each timezone would be 4 minutes, and span roughly 56 miles (tho, that’s different as you get nearer the poles).
For the majority of things, it would be fine. Most appointments etc that are “booked” verbally would likely be within 56 miles, where “casual” time would work. Anything beyond that feels like a “significant” thing, which would probably involve written/digital communication - where computers could pick up the slack for translation.
And EVERYONE would be aware of timezones. So, even Microsoft/Excel would have to recognise that timezones are a real thing.

So, probably not that bad

rektdeckard ,
@rektdeckard@lemmy.world avatar

I’m imagining something more fluid, where the time it is depends on exactly where you’re standing and the position of the sun in relation to it. You’d need to factor the direction you’re traveling as well as the distance whenever you went anywhere. We’d have a lot more intimate relationship with our current celestial situation.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

that’s basically why timezones were created. before then, every town had its own local time.

KillingTimeItself ,

close, there’s a regional local solar time (you could just steal timezones for this one) and then there is global time, which is what we go by for everything. Local solar time is essentially just an offset to the global time for the relative nature of local time to global time.

i like how whenever i mention this, people seem to think i want to get rid of time instead of timezones

rektdeckard ,
@rektdeckard@lemmy.world avatar

What you’re describing is LITERALLY the system we have. UTC is a global, coordinated time that tracks solar time to a precision of less than a second. As far as my computer is concerned, my time is UTC (technically GMT, but they both refer to the same time) minus 6 hours. We all could choose to say, “hey, wanna meet for dinner at 3AM?” and have that be a normal thing to say in my area, and an odd thing to say odd in Europe… but nobody wants that.

KillingTimeItself ,

yeah, my problem is that nobody use UTC. And we have problems like gas pumps in finland breaking because they programmed timezones incorrectly.

KillingTimeItself ,

the inverse of timezones.

Glytch ,

It really seems like you’re just describing time zones. Or do you mean that we should be even more granular about it and have personal timezones that adjust depending on where we are on the globe? That just seems like timezones with extra steps

KillingTimeItself ,

nope, i’m describing timezones, but instead of shifting time, we shift local solar time instead.

You could call them timemaps or time offset mapping, on a more macro scale.

rektdeckard ,
@rektdeckard@lemmy.world avatar

This is the same fucking thing. It is simultaneously 12:25am MDT and 6:25am GMT where I live. If you ask my computer what time it is, it knows it is 06:25:00-06:00.

Two sides of the same coin buddy.

KillingTimeItself ,

yes, except it’s not the only time system we use, the primary time system we use is universal now.

rektdeckard ,
@rektdeckard@lemmy.world avatar

How stoned are you right now

KillingTimeItself ,

zero

rektdeckard ,
@rektdeckard@lemmy.world avatar

Damn me neither

KillingTimeItself ,

damn, same.

puppy ,

Can you give me an example with an example time and how 2 people in different countries would organise a meeting?

KillingTimeItself ,

yeah, it’s 12 00 in america, it’s 12 00 literally anywhere else in the world, you show up at 12 and that’s when the meeting happens.

puppy ,

So what are these offset’s you mentioned? They are not used?

KillingTimeItself ,

they’re used less frequently than timezones are now. Because the offsets only purpose is to show to explicit time of the local solar time, anywhere in the world. relative to your local solar time (which is not very useful.)

puppy ,

Your proposal is exactly how time is used at my work. All meetings are in GMT. You use the timezone time when thinking locally. Instead of everyone using GMT and timezones already, why should we introduce a while new concept?

KillingTimeItself ,

you say you already use this at work, but then say it’s an entirely new concept. I don’t think you’ve quite comprehended this properly.

We are literally already doing it, there is no reason not to switch to it.

puppy ,

We are using GMT + timezones. You are the one who opposed timezones and said you have a different approach. But yours is exactly like timezones. My question is that why should anyone switch to something “like” timezones when there are actual timezones?

KillingTimeItself ,

because the thing that is “like” timezones is fucking better, why else would you switch?

puppy ,

How is it better?

KillingTimeItself ,

how is it not better?

puppy ,

It’s not better because your offset time is much granuler and hard to calculate in your mind than timezones. And it doesn’t offer anything new over timezones. Since you suggested it, you must see a benefit. What is it?

KillingTimeItself ,

what the fuck do you think timezones currently do?

Are they just arbitrarily stuck to “maybe sometime close to local solar time”

It could literally be equally as granular as existing timezones. You could just remap timezones to the offsets directly, hell even less granular because who cares. Just delete the half hour offsets.

it’s not adding anything new, that’s not the point, in fact it’s impossible to add something “new” to the concept of time, we’ve already defined it. It’s an improved variant of timezones, where coordination is immediately more accessible, and less involved. It’s explicitly less arbitrarily defined than the current timezones that we have no, because most of the time, you just wouldn’t use them.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

You mean like a watch that goes by timezones? 🤔

KillingTimeItself ,

that admittedly, would be pretty funny, but no unfortunately not.

pcouy ,

Are you suggesting something like continuous timezones? Thanks for bringing this nightmare to a whole new level! :)

KillingTimeItself ,

no?

Time is global, there is no deviation based on where you are in the world, it is merely your local solar time is what deviates.

pcouy ,

At this point, I don’t know if you are trolling or not. You keep saying that this is nothing like timezones, while describing something that really looks like timezones to anyone else reading it.

Do you suggest we all use one unique time, regardless of local solar time? Or do you suggest we all use our own local solar time, based on each person’s exact longitude on the globe, regardless of borders and current timezones ?

KillingTimeItself ,

it depends on how it’s implemented, but essentially, we do away with our current concept of timezones, and then use UTC or something, for example. But we reimplement the timezone maps for our local solar time offsets. So that way we still have a consistent system. Just without timezones.

nxdefiant ,

Time is an illusion, lunch time doubly so.

rovingnothing29 ,
@rovingnothing29@lemmy.world avatar

Is that where my sandwich went?

ShepherdPie ,

You life was an illusion, and you are the sandwich.

rovingnothing29 ,
@rovingnothing29@lemmy.world avatar

Whoa

dondelelcaro ,

Unless you’re in Tibet, Xinjiang, or another place observing UTC+8 with a significant offset from local solar time.

NeatNit ,

They had their chance. Heck, they still have their chance. They will continue to have their chance.

vfye ,

I like it when i miss the train because town A’s time is way off from toen C’s time

KillingTimeItself ,

sounds like a skill issue to be honest.

desktop_user ,

based name

KillingTimeItself ,

it really is one of the best thoughts i’ve ever had.

ashok36 ,

I honestly can’t tell if you are pro or anti time zones from this comment.

towerful ,

Nobody likes missing a train.
In this scenario, missing a train is caused by timezones.
It’s sarcasm. So against timezones.
Maybe, against more granular timezones, ok with status-quo, but would be happy if all official correspondence happened with UTC.
Possibly completely against timezones.
Maybe a mix of all of the above

okamiueru ,

Are you thinking about daylight savings time? I’d agree there, but timezones absolutely make sense, and we’ve always used some version of it. “See you at noon” has a sort of built in timezone, as does sunrise and sunset. We (all human societies) relate hours to the day in a similar, albeit more regular way. If you did away with timezones, you’d replace a minor inconvenience with a monstrous one. Everyone uses what, GMT? Naah

KillingTimeItself ,

DST definitely isn’t helping, but in my experience, DST only makes this stuff more arbitrary, between the winter and the summer here where i live, the sunset can vary up to about 4 hours based on season. Time is entirely arbitrary in relation to the sun to begin with. It’s a lived experience that many of us have.

And while we do use things like morning, noon, afternoon, evening, night, and midnight. Those are all relative to the local solar time, not the actual time. Sure noon being at 12 is kind of nice i guess. But noon is noon, the time on the clock doesn’t change that.

Gabu ,

Stop using drugs, you’re making literally no sense.

lightnegative ,

Actually, it makes perfect sense.

The loose terms like morning, noon, night etc are related to the suns position in the sky and exist regardless of what the wall clock happens to say

KillingTimeItself ,

maybe you should try drugs, might make this concept of no longer having timezones conceptually understandable for you.

EVERY time i suggest this, without fail. People lose their shit over even the most basic of interpretations of how timezones could possibly not exist.

Here’s a fun fact about time for you, there was a period during the catholic church, where they just removed like 7 days from the year.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Username checks out.

KillingTimeItself ,

I dont get why everyone is so pissed off about the guy whose name is literally “killingtimeitself” suggesting that we should, kill time itself.

I feel like it should be pretty apparent…

usualsuspect191 ,

Imagine you’re watching a movie, and the main character turns over to their bedside clock and it shows 4:13 am. With time zones we all understand what part of the day that is and instinctively can relate to the situation.

Without timezones, every locality would have a different shorthand and cultural understanding of what times mean what. Or they’d adopt a second system that helps transcend that but that’s just inventing timezones again…

AnarchistArtificer ,

I reluctantly agree with you. Though I think the reluctance is just because there’s something in me that’s viscerally offended by the concept of time itself (probably the ADHD)

KillingTimeItself ,

actually, this is pretty funny. This is the ONE instance so far, that i’ve found where timezones actually do something productive, and it’s in a movie.

Too bad movies never use shit like ambient moon lighting, or darkness. It’s not like those convey what time of night it is or anything. I mean seriously, if you’re bound to showing a clock to display the time, rather than make a point, you’re not a very good writer.

usualsuspect191 ,

Too bad movies never use shit like ambient moon lighting, or darkness

Probably because people’s beds tend to be inside… Plus darkness can mean morning or evening or middle of the night or something else (imagine the person notices it’s dark, looks at the clock and it shows 1pm. We know something’s off because we all experience 1pm as early afternoon).

The point isn’t that timezones are only good for movies, the point was that they help convey that cultural understanding very effectively across the world. Having a common understanding of what certain numbers on a clock mean and have that be universal can help convey quite a bit of information. 11am means “late morning” in a specific way that you could probably spend a paragraph describing.

Sure, without timezones I’d know what their clock says in London without having to use Google, but I’d still have to Google what time of day it is there and apply an offset to understand exactly what part of the day it is (which is what timezones do already). It’s no easier, plus we lose the ability to culturally share the same reference points.

KillingTimeItself ,

Probably because people’s beds tend to be inside… Plus darkness can mean morning or evening or middle of the night or something else (imagine the person notices it’s dark, looks at the clock and it shows 1pm. We know something’s off because we all experience 1pm as early afternoon).

too bad windows don’t exist, it’s also not like movies ever fudge lighting to make it look better.

Having a common understanding of what certain numbers on a clock mean and have that be universal can help convey quite a bit of information. 11am means “late morning” in a specific way that you could probably spend a paragraph describing.

or you could just say “late morning” after taking a page out of your book.

Sure, without timezones I’d know what their clock says in London without having to use Google, but I’d still have to Google what time of day it is there and apply an offset to understand exactly what part of the day it is (which is what timezones do already). It’s no easier, plus we lose the ability to culturally share the same reference points.

here’s the thing though, you wouldn’t need to do that second part. You only need to know what the relative time for london is in the event that you fly over there, or something, and even then. It’s still going to be real time, you would just naturally transition over to it. You have no reason to know what time some place else is referenced to, unless you’re over there, except for the rare instance where it’s convenient.

usualsuspect191 ,

here’s the thing though, you wouldn’t need to do that second part. You only need to know what the relative time for london is in the event that you fly over there, or something, and even then

What? Sorry, I must be misunderstanding your viewpoint here. People interact all across the globe all of the time; it’s important to know what part of day it is in the different places for all of that. You want to call someone in Singapore? It doesn’t help to know their clock shows the same time as you, you need to know if it’s the middle of the night, or maybe it’s likely lunch time etc. That’s why you need to know the offset from “your” time.

And you glossed over everything else… I’m not talking about movies for no reason. Movies tend to need to convey lots of information in a short amount of time so it’s a useful example of the differring amounts of information that can be communicated when we all share cultural understandings of things. If 3am means essentially the same thing everywhere that’s super useful in communicating all sorts of ideas.

KillingTimeItself ,

What? Sorry, I must be misunderstanding your viewpoint here. People interact all across the globe all of the time; it’s important to know what part of day it is in the different places for all of that.

no, it’s not, it’s important to know what time other people are available at Regardless of what you’re doing, you’re going to plan it to the hour specifically, due to the fact that it’s a meeting, you’re going to agree independently, on a shared time, between the two of you. It doesn’t matter what your or their local time is, because you agree on it, and can simply figure it out yourself, if you REALLY needed to, like i said, you could just look it up, and now instead of it actually changing the time, it just shifts it, given that they’re halfway across the globe, and the sun normally does that.

Maybe it’s lunch time, ask them when they have lunch. They’ll tell you, and it’ll map directly to your time. It’s INCREDIBLY explicit, compared to our current solution. You shouldn’t be planning things based on what the timezones say, you should be planning things based on what the time says.

I’m not sure i can think of a single instance, where it would be important to know what point the sun is in the sky at, in fucking mongolia, while i’m in the US or some place. It already means nothing to me, even if they were to tell me, because i don’t know what their timezone is, and if i do know, now i’m just hoping that they have exactly the same schedule as me, with no deviations, which, you know is, very reliable. Maybe you work in a global office, where this would be a thing, but then again, it’s literally the same amount if not less effort than just using timezones like you would normally do. And like i said, it doesn’t remove the local solar time, that’s what “timeoffsets” would be for, so if you REALLY cared about it for some reason, you could just look it up with the same amount of effort as timezones now.

The ONLY difference is that instead of the sun being in the middle of the sky at noon where you are, and noon where they are, it’s noon here, and there at the same time, and the sun is in the peak at 12 00 here, and 14 00 there. For instance. I genuinely just can’t think of any significant events where i would be globally contacting someone, in regards to their specific local solar time, in reference to my own, in significant enough capacity, where having to add or subtract a number would make it harder.

Timezones are arguably inherently more confusing, because if it’s +2 here, and it’s +5 there, then that means they’re 3 hours ahead, so if it’s 12 00 here, it would be 15 00 there. Which is significantly more effort. As opposed to, “i’m 3 hours ahead of you, and we use global time so just add 3 to your number, and that’s my schedule now” it just removes one variable from the equation.

and regardless of that, you act like morning, noon, afternoon, evening, night, midnight, and after midnight, don’t exist. If you’re communicating local solar time in passing, you’re likely using those anyway. They’re fuzzy terms, they’re perfect for it. And if not, you probably should be anyway.

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Time zones are fine. Daylight Savings Time needs to be taken out behind the wood shed and killed with a spoon.

Cypher , in Demand ad companies take security seriously first and maybe we'll talk.

Not just for security, selling snake oil is also grounds for ad blocking.

grue ,

I don’t need “grounds” for ad blocking, and neither do you. My property rights say that I’m entitled to modify the computation my system is doing as I see fit.

qwertyqwertyqwerty ,

We shoud have a right to not have commercials shoved down our eye and ear holes. If they could, they would force it down our throats and noses too.

ptz OP ,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

If they could, they would force it down our throats and noses too.

Throats are still safe (for now?), but hate to break it to you about noses: dennisfoodservice.com/the-smells-that-make-custom…

(Warning: has an autoplaying video at the very bottom).

qwertyqwertyqwerty ,

I swear I will just stick with paperback books for all entertainment if they continue to further infect my current forms of entertainment. Lets seem them try to insert an unskippable ad into a paperback book.

ptz OP , (edited )
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

“Please watch the ad on the included smart book accessory device to dispense the solvent that will un-glue the next 10 pages”

Relevant Simpsons Joke:

https://y.yarn.co/8eb0bc34-3a09-464e-bae5-d95fa02ee5cc_text.gif

qwertyqwertyqwerty ,

You have discovered the thing that may finally radicalize me.

Riven , (edited )
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

We already have ad books. They’re called magazines, just give it a couple more years and regular books will be filled with ads too. I’ve already encountered some regular books that have an insert talking about another book from the same creator. Sure it doesn’t seem bad now but soon it’ll be an insert about a friend of the creator, then about the same company that did this book, then in similar genres, then more inserts about products that might make your book reading experience better, etc etc.

qwertyqwertyqwerty ,

I’ve already encountered some regular books that have an insert talking about another book from the same creator.

Oh, those? We call those reading snacks. You just rip them out and dip them in a blend of extra virgin olive oil and nicely reduced balsamic vinaigrette. Perfect pairing with a nice drama or thriller.

PriorityMotif ,
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You probably bought that book based on a paid review.

Riven ,
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Jokes on you, I pirate my books. No idea if the book youtubers I watched were paid but their sensibilities are similar to mine and so far they haven’t lead me astray. I like supporting my book writers directly instead of giving money to corpos whenever possible.

Zorsith ,
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Any book that gets a movie or TV show seems to replace the original cover with an ad for the movie/TV show

Riven ,
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Yea it’s unfortunate.

Reminds me, the box a pet rock came in that my brother gave me this last Christmas has the frigging minions logo on it. It says ‘as seen on [minions eye logo]’.

smeg ,

That’s really an advert for the book appealing to people who only know the TV/film though

ManniSturgis ,

I will stick to emulating 30 year old video game consoles and fan reimplementations like OpenMW and OpenRCT2. I am driven by pure spite. They will never get me!

MajorHavoc ,

Yeah. It’s wild to me that the idiots making these enshitification decisions don’t understand this.

I could retreat into my existing installed Steam library for decades, to avoid their crap, if necessary.

And my retro game catalog dwarfs my modern game catalog, since I’ve been collecting those games longer and some of them are devilishly hard to master.

harmsy ,

some of them are devilishly hard to master.

The Magmoor Bomb Jump energy tank in the original version of Metroid Prime wants to say hello.

smeg ,

It’s wild to me that the idiots making these enshitification decisions don’t understand this.

They understand perfectly. Enough people don’t share our attitude and so this kind of behaviour is still profitable for them!

grue ,

Property rights are those rights, and we already have them. The issue is that the copyright cartel is trying to take them away from us. They are colonizing our devices with DRM + the DMCA anti-circumvention clause in an attempt to reduce us to techno-serfdom.

Ad-blocking, Free Software, Right to Repair (also a right we already have, not a new one we need), “you will own nothing and be happy” propaganda , etc. are all just different aspects of the same issue: the corporate war against property rights.

Feathercrown ,

Perfume salesmen have entered the chat

melpomenesclevage ,

I’m pretty sure the corporate property rights say you’re not allowed tho.

so maybe laws are fucking stupid and you do it because if basic human dignity or something?

grue ,

To be clear, property rights don’t come from laws; they are natural rights. “Property” as a concept stems from the fact that when Caveman Oog gets himself a neat tool-shaped rock and is holding it in his hand, nobody else can use it because he’s the one who has it, and the only way they could use it is for him to not have it anymore. He controls it and its use is exclusive to him. The rock is his property. The law doesn’t create that concept; it only codifies it so that the rock can remain Oog’s when he sets it down, instead of him having to guard it all day.

“Corporate” “property” “rights” are a whole different thing:

  1. Contrary to the Dred Scott-level bullshit the SCOTUS excreted in Citizens United, corporations are not people and don’t even have an inherent right to , let alone any other rights. A person (i.e. a sole proprietor) has rights. People associating with each other (i.e. a full-liability general partnership) have rights. A group granted the privileges of limited liability and taxation as a separate entity via incorporation exists at the pleasure of the State, and the State has every right to impose conditions on that existence in exchange for granting the privilege.
  2. Copyright is not “property.” A copyrighted work is an expression of an idea, and ideas are as near to opposite of property as it is possible to be. Not only does an idea stand in stark contrast to Oog’s rock in that it can be freely shared to the other cavemen without Oog losing possession of it, the value of it comes from the act of sharing. A creative work that never leaves the creator’s head is worthless, while a work shared with the whole world is incredibly valuable. (Don’t take my word for it, though: Thomas Jefferson – the guy who wrote or helped write the Copyright Clause, BTW – made a similar point, more eloquently explained.)
  3. Copyright isn’t a “right” either. It, like incorporation, is a privilege granted by the State (or more specifically, Congress, but Federalism is beside the point). It does not exist because the creator of a work is somehow entitled to it, or even because the People wish to reward creators for their work. Copyright exists for the sole and express purpose “to promote the progress of science and the useful arts” – in other words, to enrich the Public Domain. The mechanism of copyright, granting a temporary monopoly in order to encourage the creation of more works than would otherwise exist, is nothing more than a means to an end. The goal of copyright is for it to expire!

Anyway, point is, I’m kinda already making that distinction between basic human dignity (natural rights) and artificial laws (copyright). The situation we find ourselves in today, where actual property rights of actual people are being subordinated to Intellectual “rights” of imaginary “people” is some pants-on-head stupid, ass-backwards, Bizarro-world bullshit!

melpomenesclevage ,

‘natural rights’ okay so why are they right(s)?

Cypher ,

I honestly can’t tell if this is treading into sovcit territory or not.

grue ,

I mean, if this makes me a sovcit then it means Thomas Jefferson was one too, so at least I’m in good company.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

explodicle ,

It’s not. Protecting natural rights is the justification for a state in the first place.

mox , in Demand ad companies take security seriously first and maybe we'll talk.

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explodicle ,

Coming soon with web 3.0…

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