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moon ,

It’s a scientific fact that you are what you eat. So following that logic, you would become a cottage cheese slime.

hellofriend OP ,

New idea for a Stardew Valley mod :))))

dejected_warp_core , (edited )

That’s basically the Atkins diet (Keto) without enough nutrition. It’ll function like a very short, very uncomfortable, malnourished crash diet.

You’ll spend the first two weeks craving carbs and sugars like your life depends on it. It’s awful. After that “break in” period, the cravings mostly go away.

But that’s not all. So much as lick a piece of candy or chew on some bread, and you’ll get a large dopamine rush followed by carb-craving mode again. If sheer willpower and deferred rewards are at all a problem for you, this might feel like one of the hardest things you’ve ever tried to do.

Edit: now that I remember, my grandma tried a “cottage cheese and grapefruit” fad/crash diet back in the 80’s. Turns out that one has been doing the rounds for almost a century. IIRC, it doesn’t work since it’s easy to underestimate how insanely difficult this is to do.

OneWomanCreamTeam ,

For real, back when I did keto, cottage cheese with hot sauce was half of my diet.

dejected_warp_core ,

I feel you. Hard cheese, bacon, and pickled eggs were my go-to. Anything with strong flavors. I did that for about a year and then stopped once I hit my weight goal.

In the middle of all that, I noticed that vegetables started to taste sweet as they do contain small amounts of sugar. Especially cabbage. I kind of miss that.

A workaround I employed was to eat lots of kimchi. Fermented foods like that contain sugar alcohols which taste sweet(ish), but are not digestible as such.

Skkorm ,

Did keto for a while preparing for some on-camera work. I’ve never looked more cut and never been so miserable. 9/10 doctors do not recommend. The 10th one has an eating disorder.

YurkshireLad ,

I lost 40lbs on keto and after the first week of keto flu, I felt great. No sugar crashes, no energy level drops and overall, more energy than usual. I stopped after six weeks as I couldn’t deal with the lack of flavour and texture in the food I was eating. I reached a good weight that I’ve maintained, 7 years later.

One thing it taught me, was to reduce the amount I eat and to balance things out if I eat more carbs than usual.

dejected_warp_core ,

I agree on those stats. Don’t forget: Atkins himself died from heart disease. But hey, at least you have the pics to prove it.

Were it me, the potential for humor would be impossible to ignore:

Me: “This diet is miserable, don’t do this.”

Also me: shows pics looking more shredded that a bowl of mini-wheats

KuroiKaze ,

Been on keto for a decade with breaks here and there. Currently two pounds below goal weight. Feel great and blood numbers are excellent. Changed my life.

dejected_warp_core ,

That’s awesome. Glad that’s working for you! If you have any tips on building willpower for the rest of us, please share, and thank you.

KuroiKaze ,

I thought I posted a reply but apparently I did not. Generally, my advice is that you need to treat everything like a really long journey and let yourself take breaks for birthdays or trips as appropriate, but get right back on track Monday morning.

hellofriend OP ,

I actually tried keto some years ago on a lark. I quickly learned to avoid supermarkets since I could smell all the sugar in the baking aisle halfway across the store. Before posting this, I didn’t think such a high-protein, low-fat dirt could result in ketosis but I was educated by another user on how the process actually works.

dejected_warp_core ,

I forgot about the smells. My sense of smell shifted to be way more sensitive to sugars and starches too - it was tough.

I didn’t bother trying to track fat intake and wound up losing 2+ lbs a month that way; not bragging, but my goal wasn’t all that big. I probably could have done things faster by cutting more fat, but it was already hard enough.

I was educated by another user on how the process actually works.

Fascinating, isn’t it? It’s like each of us is just full of survival mechanisms.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

So I can’t answer your question exactly, but, as many here know at this point, I have been suffering through an illness where I have not eaten any solid food since last August (please no medical advice). Before I got, with the help of doctors, settled on a liquid diet of 6 Ensures and 4 V8s a day, I lost 80 pounds- 260 to 180, I was dizzy and lightheaded all the time from the lack of electrolytes, and while I still don’t have much energy and have to rest for a while after walking the dogs for half an hour, I couldn’t even walk a couple of blocks.

That said, my blood panels show everything is normal, so I’m clearly not dying. It’s not exactly a great quality of life, especially since our entire society is based around food in every conceivable way, but it is survivable. In fact, one good thing came out of it- I no longer have high blood pressure or high cholesterol, so I don’t have to take pills to counteract those anymore.

hellofriend OP ,

I’m sorry to hear you’re going through that. I can sort of imagine what you’re going through, and it’s certainly not fun, but it’s probably not a 1:1 situation. I really hope you get better though.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks. Definitely not 1:1 but maybe sort of put you down the path?

hellofriend OP ,

Not entirely sure what you mean. Could you rephrase?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Sorry, I mean that I agree, it’s not a 1:1 comparison, but it might lead you down the road to finding the right sort of comparison by putting my experience with the experiences of others.

hellofriend OP ,

Oh yeah, true. I’ve already decided based on feedback that this isn’t a good way to meet my dietary needs without breaking the bank. I’m just proud to say that the extreme measures I’m considering aren’t due to an ED this time around. Just poverty this time.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Poverty sucks ass, I’ve been there. That said, you can get by for a long time with beans, rice and some veggies. Not a fun diet, but better than starving.

hellofriend OP ,

Well, that’s kinda the chief problem. Last time I did that I suffered brain fog the entire time. Same thing happened when I tried vegetarianism. And on top of that, I lost a surprising amount of muscle mass on beans and rice. I think I need more protein than that diet can offer. It’s just a shame that it’s so bloody expensive…

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I thought beans had a lot of protein in them? I don’t remember doing badly on a lot of that and ramen back when I was a student.

Since you do eat meat, I would also suggest checking to see if your local supermarkets (if you’re not in a food desert) has discounted meat that is near its expiration date. You have to use it faster, obviously, but you can usually save a chunk of money on it.

hellofriend OP ,

There’s more nuance to it than that. Beans do have a lot of protein, but the specific proteins they’re high in are less digestible than animal protein, and still not as plentiful as in animal protein. And that’s fine provided that you eat multiple sources of plant protein and are able to eat a lot of it. But then the issue becomes an excess of fibre and, in the case of legumes, oligosaccharides.

Disclaimer: I’m saying this as a well-muscled individual. For the average person, deriving all protein from plant-based sources is probably fine.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Ah, ok. Yeah, I’m anything but well-muscled, so that makes more sense.

i_dont_want_to ,

Hopefully this isn’t unwanted advice, but I have also cut out a lot of meat from my diet and I started getting weird side effects. (Lost feeling in my hands and feet, got dizzy a lot, felt extra stupid.)

After seeing a doctor, I take vitamin B and D supplements and it helped a lot. If you can’t see a doctor, you might consider trying some vitamin B and seeing if that helps. Apparently lots of vegetarians and vegans take it too.

hellofriend OP ,

I don’t mind the advice! I already take a B complex, though. I try to take vitamin D but I always forget that one. Probably because I don’t take it with a meal.

tetelestia ,

Why not just drink Soylent?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Because, as I said, this was settled with the help of doctors.

And, again, please no medical advice.

cactusupyourbutt ,

wait, you dont get liquid food from the hospital?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

No, why would I?

bear ,

Weight loss. I don’t like cottage cheese but I do something similar with greek yogurt, eggs, and chicken breast. High protein is easy weight loss for me. Always listen to your body.

Dultas , (edited )

And if your doing a high protein diet make sure to watch your kidney function, make sure your doc does a kidney panel with every physical. I did low carb high protein for several months and my kidney numbers went from good to, not terrible, but not good either.

vipaal ,

www.youtube.com/channel/UCKOvOaJv4GK-oDqx-sj7VVg – either this channel may visit you, or you visit the channel.

The episode will begin with a dramatically narrated, HF is a <XYZ> years old <gender identifier>, and had <food> for a month! This is what happened next!

hellofriend OP ,

Hmmm… potential payout?

Daxtron2 ,

You’d become severely deficient in key nutrients

_lilith ,
@_lilith@lemmy.world avatar

I have done something like this. You will feel like hell and depending how vitamin deficient you are you could end up in the hospital. When I did it I just bounced back within a few months so it was not worth it.

If you are trying to lose weight counting calories over a long period helped me lose about 50lbs. Just try to stay in weight loss range and exercise for 30 min a day to burn some calories

hellofriend OP ,

Nah, I’m more looking for a way to eat cheap for a month (maybe two) while still getting enough protein that I don’t start wasting. Food is expensive, and dairy here is also expensive, but a months worth of cottage cheese is cheaper than a months worth of any meat. I’ll see if I can move some things around in my budget to get a more wholesome diet, though.

PRUSSIA_x86 ,

Try potatoes. They’re ridiculously cheap (where I am) and loaded with nutrients.

hellofriend OP ,

That’s actually where I draw the line, unfortunately. Potatoes are cheap here as well but everything about them makes me feel sick to my stomach. I might start baking bread though. If I were to make my own cottage cheese it should be cheaper than storebought and I could use the whey in place of water for added protein in the bread.

RvTV95XBeo ,

Lentils, rice, and beans together can form a very inexpensive but nutrient rich base for a lot of meals.

Krauerking ,

I have pretty much taken to making my own stuff to save money and bread is way easier than you think if you are ok with it not being super special but with some money saved they can get a little more fun. I just recently did little buns with mustard and onion powder that was way better than burger buns from the store for way cheaper.

Literally yeast water salt and flour is enough to make pizza dough. If you have a jar of active dry yeast it will last forever it feels and if you just put some in a new jar with some water and flour you can just keep it growing forever and literally not bother buying more. Then sauce and cheese and throw it on a pan you had preheating in the oven.

And milk that’s starting to sour you should absolutely try to make into a quick cheese or something cause it’s likely not bad just chemically changing. Just a little vinegar and you can make cheese or if you are baking use it instead of water and the sour flavor actually helps them taste better.

Chive pancakes can also be made cheap and be a nice thing to make a lot of freeze and use as a filling snack/side.

MintyFresh ,

Dried beans. Their cheap AF. Nutritious AF. I make up a pot of soup every couple of days. Soak you beans the night before. Boil next day.

Start a new pot off with butter. Sauteed up onion, carrot, and/or celery(all cheap AF, all optional). Add In meat if you like. Sear outsides but don’t worry about cooking all the way through. Add chicken stock (or water) and boiled beans. Simmer covered 30 min-ish. Add in frozen spinach, cook another 5. Salt and season to taste.

Congrats! You just made a pot of bomb ass soup. For like 3$! You can eat for days off that pot. Delicious AND nutritious. Your gut likes variety, give it to it.

Trainguyrom ,
  • Milk and potatoes can give a good base of vitamins and minerals.
  • Potatoes are pretty cheap and very easy to grow if you have the time and will to try it. Just toss a few potato halves into a bin of dirt, water periodically and you’ll have more potatoes than you know what to do with
  • Toast can be a fairly cheap breakfast, although not very filling. It’s easy to quickly eat as you run out the door too
  • I’ve found making sure your dinners have multiple dishes actually makes the food go further and helps in saving money on groceries overall compared to not
  • A bag of freezer veggies can keep in the fridge for almost a week pretty easily, and it’s very easy to pour a bit out, nuke it in the microwave for 30-60 seconds and help round out your meal.
  • Hotdogs cook very well with ramen noodles (you can also sprinkle in some frozen corn too!), and that can make 2-3 meals for a single person
  • if you’re in the states, Aldi is genuinely a really good option to save money on groceries, plus their store brand stuff usually has less sugar than name brand
  • white rice is usually dirt cheap and a good base source of nutrients
Krauerking ,

I will add in that adding some cheap meat and some cheap veggies of any kind to stretch a meal absolutely makes it way more filling and can let you get second and 3rd meals from it.

Also potatoes are insane. I tossed a few under a bush during the winter and just realized I see their sprouts coming out from underneath it in several spots. And a single potato I tried to purposefully grow is wildly outperforming the basil I’m trying to grow. A bowl and some straw could probably grow these things with a little water and fertilizer.

Trainguyrom ,

Some neighbors did an experiment one year where they got a 3lb bag of potatoes, cut them all in half then tossed half of them into a garbage bin full of dirt and ate the other half, placed said bin of dirt and potatoes at thw side of the house and periodically watered it. They ended up with more potatoes than they knew what to do with and declared “never again”

Edit: just realized I half described that story already. I’ll just add they had moved to the area from Idaho not long before trying this

Krauerking ,

LOL just wanted to see if there was anything special about Idaho I guess. But nah it’s how we bred the potatoes. As long as it’s cool enough they will grow anywhere.

hellofriend OP ,

Unfortunately, "cheap meat’ is an oxymoron in my country. “Cheap veggies” almost is as well, but it’s getting a bit better on that front (shoutout to Odd Bunch; I wish you’d expand west). I’ll see what I can do about incorporating tatties into my diet since multiple people have recommended them. I’m aware that they’re cheap, but they generally make me feel sick to my stomach. Happen to have some good tips on how I might “hide” them in meals?

Krauerking ,

You can use them to make bread actually. And thicken a soup. Some of my favorite ways to hide them. And that should help disperse whatever is happening with them.

I think you might have a gastro issue with them. Potatoes are so high in basically everything that they can upset your stomach, and it not be a grease thing. Unless you are getting really grean skinned potatoes full of solanine you might actually be best using them sparingly.

You could look into yams. Sweeter but usually still cheap and pretty darn healthy. I would also say grow peas or green beans. They sprout in days and will harvest for month/s.

Unfortunately if you struggle with potatoes you might also struggle with eggplant that also tends to be cheap.

If you have zucchini I love to just cut them in half and scoop out some of the inside center and mix that with breadcrumbs and sauce and some cheese put it back in the zucchini boat and bake them. They store well and are pretty filling.

I get food insecurity. I once had to feed my whole family on the budget of just my paper route because of a drunk Mom. It’s not fun. But if you let me know what is cheap around you maybe we can figure out something if you want.

hellofriend OP ,

Oh no, it’s not a gastro thing. I can tell you that for certain. The taste and texture makes my stomach do somersaults. Normally you see that type of thing when you’ve eaten something and became sick recently after (my neuro prof back in the day had a funny anecdote about whiskey and his inability to drink it after a particularly rowdy night) so I’m wondering if that’s what’s happening. Or maybe I just really can’t stand potatoes.

I’ve never heard of potato bread before! I’ll give it a go. As for eggplant, I’m not the biggest on it and it’s actually a bit expensive here. But zucchini? A m a z i n g. Got some growing right now. Unfortunately that doesn’t help me for a wee while, so I might pick a couple up if I have the money. I like to eat em chopped up with a Greek dressing. Can also shred em and put em in baking (chocolate zucchini muffin :> ) but I can’t quite afford anything so extravagant right now.

As for what’s cheap - basically nothing, lately. I really should move to somewhere that doesn’t have an oligarchical food industry, but that’s a long term thing. Either way, I do appreciate the offer but I’m not sure I’m comfortable accepting. It’s endlessly kind, but I feel I should try to work with what I have before I take from someone else.

Krauerking ,

The taste and texture makes my stomach do somersaults.

Haha alright that’s a new one but I get it. Scalloped potatoes are awesome though just layers of potatoes and onion and some milk and spices baked until tender. Can add anything to them and it’s hard to be certain what the flavor is after it all melds together.

But I hope you try and enjoy the potato bread. I love it and do it for simple grilled cheese sandwiches cause is pretty filling.

I wish you all the best luck and hope you get the chance to make some zucchini bread soon and good crop yield!

hellofriend OP ,

Ugh, I wish I was in the States. Aldi won’t come to Canada due to “price fixing” and “manipulative” grocers. Who are, unsurprisingly, a large contributor to my inability to afford nutritious food.

Trainguyrom ,

Don’t forget to check food pantries. Many nonprofit foodbanks don’t gate based on income, particularly those operated by churches. It’s often stuff that’s close to expiration, or very cheap brands that you might not want to eat, but it’s better than literally only eating cream cheese and will give you more variety of calories and nutrients to work with

hellofriend OP ,

I think there’s a food bank in the town near to me. I’ll have to inquire about if they serve the surrounding area, but I’m guessing not due to a large low-income population.

As for brands, the only brand of food that I’ve ever stuck with unequivocally is Philadelphia cream cheese. Not out of loyalty but because nothing can stack up to it. I’ll eat own brand for everything besides cream cheese.

Dkarma ,

Why is there no serving per container? How many servings in this tub?

Trex202 ,

750 / 125 = 6

hellofriend OP ,

Couldn’t fit the weight and nutrition data in the same image. Other comment is correct: 750g is 6 servings.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

do you get any supplemental liquid?

hellofriend OP ,

Anything non-caloric. Water, tea, coffee, diet soda, so on.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

What about crab juice

hellofriend OP ,

Uhh, well, it sounds interesting I guess.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

If we’re making bad decisions, why not really make them bad

Socsa ,

But getting the juice is so hard!

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar
Cybermonk_Taiji ,

DIET SODA???

hellofriend OP ,

That’s a non-exhaustive list and does not reflect my actual dietary habits

ji17br ,

Don’t tell me you think aspartame will kill him.

Cybermonk_Taiji ,

Did I say anything about that at all?

I just think it’s fucking nasty tasting garbage and water is basically free.

Socsa ,

Yes, the famous poverty died beverage of choice!

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

someone just won a month’s supply of cottage cheese.

deegeese ,

Only 960 kcal/day is a starvation diet.

edgemaster72 ,
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

Based on the label in the post, it’d be even worse than that, 750g would only be 720 kcal

deegeese ,

Whoops!

Dkarma ,

If you have 0% body fat, lol.

Worst that will happen is you’ll lose some weight and probably recomp a bit but 4 weeks really isn’t enough to do anything. 8 minimum to even start to see changes in my experience.

Ymmv depending on bf %

Mouselemming ,

You’d become anemic from the lack of iron plus the blood loss from hemorrhoids due to lack of fiber.

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

Hemorrhoids is a preventable condition, you’re not supposed to sit there and push. Just get up and do drink water or eat fiber. Try hot coffee or warm milk or a yogurt drink. No one needs to suffer from hemorrhoids at all, I am surprised there are still people who do. Should be a unit in middle school health classes to not force shitting

BreadstickNinja ,

You are not permitted hot coffee, warm milk, or a yogurt drink. You are permitted 750g of cottage cheese, each day, for a month.

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll take death thanks 🙏

Mouselemming ,

Got mine along with my first baby. Another example of blaming women for legitimate health issues?

Agree about fiber, but more specifically, psyllium fiber like metamucil, and vegetable fiber have positive effects whereas nuts or seeds, especially flax, tear it open and cause bleeding even if it’s been healed for months. Yogurt can also be constipating, despite the claims of probiotics.

More to the point, there’s zero fiber in cottage cheese.

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

Got mine along with my first baby. Another example of blaming women for legitimate health issues?

Sorry to know that! I was only talking about hemorrhoids from forcing shitting. Didn’t know they could happen with child birth, but makes sense

Trainguyrom ,

Some people just randomly get hemmroids for no apparent reason

over_clox ,

Aside from the malnourishment others have already mentioned, you’ll be spending a lot of time on the toilet…

Mouselemming ,

Or you’d never poop again

over_clox ,

Oh, I’ve had a few cottage cheese binges, only for a day or two at a time though. Unlike more solid cheeses, cottage cheese tends to go right through you.

Many flushes will be had…

eran_morad ,

You’d become malnourished. You’re missing C, folate, iron, etc. you’d live, but you’d be sick and you’d have damaged your body.

Chocrates ,

It would probably take more than a month to show signs of malnutrition though, assuming OP is eating reasonably healthy currently.

rhombus ,

It might not be to the point of permanent damage, but you certainly wouldn’t be feeling good. You probably wouldn’t be iron deficient, but a lot of vitamins are only stored in small amounts in the body.

Chocrates ,

True, but people can go on extended fasts without malnutrition concerns. Usually those are in overweight folks though (at least what I am thinking of) so maybe they have deeper reserves.

SendMePhotos ,

Can I just eat a multivitamin with it

eran_morad ,

No. You’re not getting any fiber, this is a really shit idea.

lemonadebunny ,
@lemonadebunny@lemmy.ca avatar

How can the idea be shitty if it doesn’t have enough fiber?

Dkarma ,

Not in a month…lol

eran_morad ,

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  • Paragone ,

    some brain damage: malnutrition tends to aggravate or cause brain damage.

    I’m a brain damage survivor: it sucks, it takes decades to undo ( neuroplasticity takes time to do rewiring ), and life is never going to be what it could have been.

    Don’t damage people’s brains.

    'tis a good rule, eh?

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