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FlyingSquid ,
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What are the odds that the teen is darker than a peach color?

stoly ,

I’m betting he fired without even looking then realized what he had done.

Buelldozer ,
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Hard to say. The kid was driving an Audi S4 so they likely have money.

2ugly2live ,
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What do you mean by that?

metaStatic ,

Money isn't colour blind, especially in murica

solsangraal , (edited )

“oh shit my gun just went off”

fucking hilarious how effortless it is for them to alternate between “guns don’t kill people” and “oh shit it wasn’t me–the gun did it!!!”

but seriously-- if you live anywhere near bumfuck tumptown hickville, for fucks sake tell your kids not to go up on anyone’s property. i live in one of these areas, and the government couldn’t hire anyone to go door to door doing census count for that one reason. they. will. fucking. kill you

Diplomjodler3 ,

When i was young, the US were famous for how friendly the people were and that you could just knock on any door and they’d help you. The “conservatives” have really done a number on you guys.

A_Random_Idiot ,

I mean, that was only ever true if you were a very specific hue on the color spectrum.

Flocklesscrow ,

But also like marry women, and go to church with the other smiling people.

hemmes ,
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dmtalon ,

Ya, I’m not sure that has ever been true as a blanket statement.

JackiesFridge ,
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Maybe Canada, but the US is ruining them too

SnotFlickerman ,
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It seems like that’s more of a way for him to avoid responsibility for it than anything else.

South Park called it in its first fucking season.

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Nothing they say is in good faith, ever. It’s all about exploiting the situation.

NeuronautML , (edited )

This is why stand your ground laws can’t realistically exist in places that aren’t sparsely populated. Because someone will read “defend your property and life with force if necessary” as “act as a raging lunatic and attempt to shoot anyone who comes at the door because it’s legal to do so if you claim you were defending your property, even though there was no indication of actual imminent danger to property or people”.

In my country we don’t have stand your ground laws. You can only defend yourself in case of an attack, but not drive away a thief. You’re supposed to run and call the police, but I keep wondering if a legal framework like the US where you weren’t legally punished for attacking a thief in your house wouldn’t be fairer but then there’s news like this.

Buelldozer ,
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This has absolutely nothing to do with “Stand Your Ground”. SYG only applies when you or someone else are in real and imminent danger of serious bodily harm or death, neither of which were true in this case. That’s why the guy was arrested and has been charged with a number of serious offenses. He’s going to end up in prison.

Since you aren’t from the United States I should also tell you that SYG isn’t a National thing, its only legal in the States in that have passed laws allowing it.

I keep wondering if a legal framework like the US where you weren’t legally punished by attacking a thief in your house wouldn’t be fairer but then there’s news like this.

That’s called “Castle Doctrine” and like SYG it isn’t National. It only exists in the States that have passed a law to allow it.

It CAN work but there’s at least a few States that have Castle Doctrine and a Duty to Retreat so you end up having to flee a home invader until or unless you have no other choice.

rc__buggy ,

We have a make my day law in CO but it only applies inside your house

crashfrog ,

Why should someone who is already breaking the law also enjoy the power of legal coercion to force you from a place you had the legal right to be, though?

“Well, we don’t want the situation to escalate. Someone could get hurt.” Why should the law protect only the welfare of criminals? Of the person actively breaking the law?

The issue with “Stand your Ground” laws is that the alternative is nonsensical if your view expands to include the rights and welfare of people who act consistent with the law.

workerONE ,

You should be able to use reasonable force. If you’re trying to subdue a homicidal maniac then you can choke them unconscious or knock them unconscious or kill them if that’s all you have means to do. But if you just have someone who wants to be rude and yell in your face, then you don’t have a right to kill them.

I think it depends on who causes the confrontation and who is escalating the situation to different levels of violence.

Also, I think there’s different ways to interpret stand your ground as a concept. You can stand your ground and use reasonable force to secure your safety. You should not be able to stand your ground and murder someone so as not to inconvenience yourself if you don’t want to take a step back or move out of someone’s way for example.

givesomefucks ,

The sheriff’s office said the woman, who was not at the home, had called deputies before the shooting to report two trespassers on her property. She also called Metz, who drove over to the home and allegedly blocked the teen’s car from leaving, KUSA reported.

Metz then got out of his vehicle and is alleged to have fired one round through the windshield of the teen’s car, the station reported.

These fuckeits refuse to ever just let a situation de-escalate on its own

Like, you drive there to make them leave, prevent them from leaving. And shoot at the fucking driver before speaking to them.

We can’t ignore the real life consequences of all this fucking fear mongering.

skuzz ,

These shitlarpers are a bunch of weak babies that don’t have any idea how to be the big man they think they are.

Nommer , (edited )

They don’t want to deescalate. They already had a big celebration planned in their head for murdering someone before they even do the act. They want to kill people so they can look like some hero. These people are sick and as far as I’m concerned their punishment should equal their crime.

SARGE ,
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“Yay, I get to legally murder someone today! This’ll shut up my hippy liberal relatives” -Metz, shortly before pulling up to the teen’s car

2pt_perversion ,

According to an arrest affidavit obtained by the station, one of the teens reported hearing Metz say “Oh s—, my gun just went off” after the shooting.

The kids did trespass by hopping a fence, I’m guessing his defense is going to be he was just trying to hold them there for police but accidentally discharged his weapon into a kids face. The fuckwit is really lucky the kid lived.

I can’t understand the idiotic appeal of inserting yourself into these situations when the police are already on the way and there’s no danger to yourself to just waiting and letting them handle it.

Gork ,

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That teen is lucky to have survived. Getting shot in the face is incredibly lethal.

hddsx ,

Is it? I heard the opposite. A lot of people live through suicide maimed because the bullet ricocheted off their skull. Supposedly, there are better ways to off yourself that I won’t specify here

MegaUltraChicken ,

A lot of people live through suicide maimed because the bullet ricocheted off their skull.

I’m gonna need a definition on “a lot” here

cygnus ,
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100% of those who didn’t die!

tpihkal ,

I knew a guy when I was a kid. Pretty hard to look at. That’s a lot to me.

Donjuanme ,

And I know 2 that didn’t, I’m 0 for 2, you’re 1 for how many?

It should be as hard to own a gun as it is to drive a car

TommySoda ,

Yeah, my friend that shot himself in the head a couple years back would also like to know.

meco03211 ,

You hear about them because it’s unusual. Someone shot in the pinky toe and surviving is not newsworthy.

Flocklesscrow ,

Put the armor in the places without bullet holes

njm1314 ,

This crazy fuck was on the city council?

lolcatnip ,

Have you seen the kind of people who much of the US likes to elect?

Tylerdurdon ,

I guess that’s a “no.”

BigMacHole ,

If I can’t Shoot a Teenager in the Face you’re INFRINGING ON MY SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS! Now let me Save The Children!

unmagical , (edited )

Oh s—, my gun just went off

Weird, I’d been told they don’t do that.

jqubed , (edited )
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It wasn’t even his house; it was his girlfriend’s. She thought they were trespassers, she called him for help (she also called the sheriff) and he showed up pointing a gun.

Bassman1805 ,

They also were in their car outside the gate to the property. TECHNICALLY that gate may be inside the property line, but that’s still totally egregious.

TransplantedSconie ,

Jumping right out of the truck immediately laying down covering fire regardless of the situation?

Yep. That’s a republican.

octopus_ink ,

When thinking you are the good guy with a gun goes wrong…

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