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Boeing Starliner astronauts might get a ride home from SpaceX — in 2025

Originally set to return in mid-June, Barry Wilmore and Sunita Williams may be on the station until February, 2025.

During a press conference today, NASA representatives confirmed they have a contingency plan to bring astronauts Barry Wilmore and Sunita Williams home from the International Space Station (ISS) early next year. If they’re unable to leave sooner aboard the Boeing Starliner spacecraft that brought them there

Tests conducted at NASA’s White Sands Test Facility pointed to deformed Teflon seals being a potential cause of the Starliner’s thrusters failing, but the agency isn’t expected to make a final decision on whether or not Williams and Wilmore will return using Boeing’s spacecraft until mid-August.

Imperor ,
@Imperor@lemmy.world avatar

Let me solve that riddle: no, no they’re not.

SpaceX will not be able to deliver this.

TransplantedSconie ,

Just sit right back

And you’ll hear a tale

A tale of a fateful trip,

That started from a tropic port,

Aboard this tiny ship.

The mate was a mighty sailin’ lass.

The Skipper brave and sure,

Two passengers set sail that day,

For an eight day tour,

A eight day tour.

Xtallll ,
@Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I started reading this to Fresh Prince, and I got pretty far before I realized it should be Gilligan.

kamenlady ,
@kamenlady@lemmy.world avatar

Fuck Boeing - for real fr

Playing with the lives of people seems now to be officially their thing.

sunzu ,

Didn't they murder a witness earlier this year tho?

ChicoSuave ,

Just the one?

sgibson5150 ,

TFW you spend the R&D money on hitmen

dactylotheca ,
@dactylotheca@suppo.fi avatar

I doubt they spent all that much money murking whatshisname. The R&D money goes to the parasites known as executives and shareholders

wildncrazyguy138 ,

TIL the pensioners who are part of CALPERS are parasites.

dactylotheca ,
@dactylotheca@suppo.fi avatar

Speaking of parasites, you may want to have that brain slug removed.

wildncrazyguy138 ,

It’s easy to hate on Boeing. Yea, they done f-ed up a few times and upper management made some very poor decisions, but there are 10s of thousands of people who work there and it’s a good manufacturing job in a country that used to pride itself on manufacturing. We can’t all be service workers, and I’d venture that, given the way you present yourself online, you’re probably not someone who is resting on their laurels either.

Now, back to stocks. It’s also quite simple to throw a slick quip about how the big bad shareholder bogeyman is ruining our country, but, unless you’re among the minority in this country, you likely own some stock in some company, somehow. The shareholders are us.

But therein gives us a lot of power. Many shares are voting shares. We could, if we all chose to, enact the corporate change we wish to see. And coincidentally enough, there are people precisely doing that kind of good work. Look up the philosophy behind ESG, it is becoming a thing. Or certified B corps. Likewise, many countries require unions to have a seat on their board; unfortunately for now, the US isn’t one of them, but that could change.

Or, ya know, we could just be dismissive and scapegoat our problems. That’s life, we get to choose our own adventure.

sunzu ,

unless you’re among the minority in this country, you likely own some stock in some company, somehow. The shareholders are us.

Look up your numbers muhh booma. Jfc

towerful ,

Gotta research dividends!

Edit:
Maybe Boeing made a simple mistake and invested in Relaxation & Dividends, instead of Research & Development.

grue ,

More like when you spend the QA money on hitmen.

joyjoy ,

When the marketing department has some extra funds, so they rescue their competitor.

Kolanaki ,
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How much food and water do they even have?

negativenull ,
@negativenull@lemmy.world avatar

The space station has tons of stockpile of consumables like that, and are still being regularly restocked by cargo ships (unmanned).

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Can’t they send one of those with a shuttle for them to fly back? Is that just prohibitively more expensive? They can be autopiloted up, right?

towerful ,

Pretty sure cargo dragon is just a stripped down crew dragon to make more space for cargo.
Or maybe, crew dragon is a cargo dragon fitted for passengers… Seeing as cargo dragon flew with cargo and docked to the ISS in 2012 (crew dragon was 2020).

Pretty sure crew dragon has all the auto/remote to fully launch and then dock to the ISS.
Cargo dragon is auto/remote docked. Doesn’t even need canadarm. So would make sense that crew dragon is as well

Zipitydew ,

Plenty. Cygnus capsule that docked a few days ago was a scheduled resupply too.

ClanOfTheOcho ,

But totally not stranded… -NASA, probably

blaue_Fledermaus ,
@blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io avatar

No because there's always the possibility to use one of the extra Soyuz from the station.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Technically not stranded is still stranded when NASA won’t give them permission to leave.

9tr6gyp3 ,

Did they ask for permission to leave?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

How do I know? Why should they need to? They have families. Obviously they would rather be with them.

9tr6gyp3 ,

Would they honestly rather be with their families and are asking to leave? How do you know these details?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Because it’s their families? Are you serious? They don’t want to be with their partners and kids?

Should we call CPS?

9tr6gyp3 ,

Yeah but did they say that? Or are you projecting how you feel onto them?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Why do they need to say that they want to spend time with their partners and kids? Again, are you serious?

9tr6gyp3 ,

What if they want to spend a once in a lifetime opportunity on an international space station doing research for a year? Are you serious?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

All I can think is you are single with no children. Because suggesting they don’t want to spend time with their kids makes them terrible parents and I hope you aren’t one if you feel that way.

9tr6gyp3 ,

I feel that way even with a partner and kids who has worked on an extended business trip for the SLS program alongside NASA employees.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

“You don’t know if they want to see their families” is a really weird hill to die on, and an extended business trip isn’t the same as being in space. I think you know that.

9tr6gyp3 ,

You miss family, yes, but you keep in touch and enjoy the wild journey you’re on. How hard is this to understand? These people are not your typical humans. They are sacrificing a lot for the fantastic research they do. Its fine if you don’t agree with their sacrifice, but don’t put words into their mouths saying they want to come home if you cant show that they did say it.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Of course they’re typical humans. They aren’t gods. They have the same chromosomes as the rest of us. And suggesting anyone wouldn’t really want to see their kids (and, you know, have sex) when they’re away weeks longer than they were told they would be is, again, a really weird hill to die on.

9tr6gyp3 ,

Agree to disagree then.

rtxn ,

Stop feeding the troll, bro

criticon ,

But they are in space doing science. Some people like their jobs and their families can understand that this is temporary

Zipitydew ,

This is also potentially the last mission for both of them. I’d be surprised if they’re upset. Astronauts are a different breed.

They’re more likely to be having a good time than not. They knew from the start the mission plan included an option for a longer stay. Sunni also once held the record for ISS mission length for female astronauts.

mercano ,
@mercano@lemmy.world avatar

Yes and no. One of the problems right now is each of the three capsule designs uses a different pressure suit, with different hookups, and each relies on a custom fitted seat liner to absorb some of the shock of landing / splashdown, so if you’re planning on landing on a different ship then you launched on, they need to send up a new seat liner & space suit.

This was half a problem even with the shuttle. You still needed a different spacesuit, but because it landed gently on a runway, it didn’t require custom seats.

pennomi ,

The industry gossip/theory going around is that there’s a software issue in Starliner that makes it incapable of autonomously returning to Earth. This is probably NASA’s way of telling Boeing to fix it to a satisfactory degree of confidence before a given deadline, or else.

Arguably that alone is enough reason to completely abandon Starliner as an option for the return trip.

Zipitydew ,

It’s only an issue in that the logic isn’t currently turned on. The capsule can do it just fine. It just wasn’t the point of this mission.

NASA update earlier today said Boeing can turn the ability on if needed. Will just need time for update and then testing to make sure it’s all good to go.

greenshirtdenimjeans ,

A 3 hour tour

An 8 day mission

JoMiran ,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Aren’t the stranded astronauts older? I am concerned about the long term damage to their bodies.

maniii ,

NASA did a study recently that micro-gravity and zero-g causes corneal eye damage causing astronauts to lose eyesight over long durations in space.

Is the possibility of these astronauts going blind permanently due to Boing Boing ?

I think it is time to put this shitty “aerospace” company into the ground.

Bishma OP ,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

It’s certainly not great for their eyes, but a number of people have been up for longer in one go. I think Frank Rubio currently holds the record at ~14 months.

Chocrates ,

Scott Kelley did 340 days in space without too much long term damage that I am aware of (his was the first long term test) so I wouldn’t anticipate damage much worse than what he got. If we can get them out in under a year and if they get don’t have an emergency and if they don’t have any underlying medical conditions that get exacerbated and if our single test can be used to predict their outcomes.

We really fucked up. Either trusting Boeing or not having a contingency plan I guess.

clif ,

We can take you to the ISS, bringing you back is… Complicated

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