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Aceticon ,

As a member of Generation X, I would say that it’s not going to be much better.

Just look at, say, Elon Musk as an example of the kind of people from my generation who get to positions of influence.

Most GenX are the product of the Neoliberal era, so have interiorized the whole “lookout for numero uno” idea of how to be in society and whilst commonly aware of things like Climate Change, they’re usually unwilling to inconvenience themselves for the sake of fighting against it, quite the contrary even (just look at how well SUVs sell), and similarly when it comes to Consumerism, they seem to be the most prone to wasteful consumption (the kind of people who replace their mobile phones every year or two).

In summary, Gen X generally are more well informed than Boomers but even less principled than them.

Allero ,

Honestly, given the money Gen X has, Gen Z would mostly probably do the same.

While some of our actions can be directed by principle, mostly it’s just shrinking income.

I wish we could raise wages AND use them to embrace Buy It For Life items, all while subsidizing public transportation etc etc.

But now it’s lack of money that holds Gen Z back, not principles, in my opinion.

Wes4Humanity ,

Gen z understands that the rich are the cause of their poverty, not immigrants or libs or other poor people. That’s a big step in directing action in the right direction.

Allero ,

Fair, though I wonder how much of it is real change and how much is our information bubble. Hopefully mostly the former, but I absolutely do hear all those “fuck immigrants” and “I’m to blame, I just gotta work harder” attitudes around.

Wes4Humanity ,

Yeah… I guess it’s more like, millennials were the first generation to have a majority get it, and Gen z is even better about getting it… But it’s still not 100%

schnurrito ,

I was born in the 1990s and teenage me thought that the future would be awesome because people like me would be in power.

By now, people my age and younger have reported back, become politicians, celebrities, journalists or otherwise people with more power than me, and said “nah, we are pretty much the same as our parents were, some of us are awesome and some horrible”.

Wes4Humanity ,

The type of people who seek power probably won’t change generation to generation… But the voters are changing rapidly as boomers die and millennials/zoomers replace them (far more progressive overall)… The voters will force the change, not the small percent that seek their own glory (ie the list you have there)

limelight79 ,

Gen X here, too.

DeSantis is younger than me.

That’s all I’m going to say. Gooooooooooo Millennials and Gen Z. PLEASE.

Blackmist ,

I was born right on the border of Millennial and Gen X. Tory leader Rishi Sunak was younger than me.

Generation really doesn’t matter. Greedy cunts rise to the top and always will.

Today’s horrible influencers are tomorrows horrible leaders.

RememberTheApollo_ ,

Probably a product more of age than of generational specificity.

You get used to your comforts, you probably have investments, you’re consumed by trying to get ahead enough so that you don’t have to die at your job, just in a nursing home what takes all of your money.

Gen X myself, and maybe an outlier, but I’ve probably become more radical as I’ve aged rather than the other way around. I’ve been stuck being poor for decades before finally “making it”, and that has really driven home the awareness of how fragile it all is. That, and just general omnivorous reading that includes a lot of depressing scientific literature regarding climate change. It’s terrifying.

I vote for the left (I would have happily voted for Sanders), support local measures and politicians that lean towards social policy and move towards things like green power, etc.

So yeah…not necessarily a thing you can just pin on a generation, though each generation will have some stronger proclivities than others in certain areas. The millennials will have to watch out, they’re next to fall for circling the wagons to protect whatever they might have, hate on their gen’s billion- or trillionaires.

Yearly1845 ,

Gen X isnt much better tbh. They grew up during the golden age of the boomer era where society had not started to breakdown yet. Some of them may have progressive views, but I bet it won’t be until millenials are in charge that we start to see meaningful change. Gen Z will really get into progressivism I bet.

Snowclone ,

As a millennial, I think I can speak for all of us and say we’re OK with Gen Z taking over early, they might still have the emotional capacity to effect lasting change.

Ragnarok314159 ,

I agree, and since most of us didn’t start our careers “on time” due to the absolute destruction of the economy in 2008, and also being most of the military strength during GWOT, Gen Z can take charge.

Just don’t short us too badly, maybe throw us a little bone here and there. We will happily take it since our Boomer parents were so massively shitty to us.

Avg ,

Can we stop making assumptions of an entire group based on some arbitrary rule? The people that will get to power is based on the population that votes for them and not when they were born, start voting in primaries, supporting candidates that match your values and going out to vote for them during election and you might just get what you want.

Blackmist ,

Said every generation ever.

Wes4Humanity ,

The boomers grew up in the “Golden age”… Gen x is the boomers first round of kids… Born from hippy free love and mistakes… Then the boomers grew up, got divorced, and started their millennial “real” families… Gen x caught the shit end of the boomer stick for sure, and it fucked them up as a generation… That and the fact that they caught a lot of the boomers pig headedness, probably because they had far less access to information than millennials.

Luckily they’re a small and mostly insignificant generation that won’t ever be able to prop up the old oligarchy parties the way the boomers have been able to.

Adderbox76 ,

I’m Gen X and I can tell you from experience that that is mostly accurate.

We’re the generation that was born, came of age, and entered the workforce when Boomers were still far from retirement age and hording all the good jobs. We had to all go to university to study for the leftovers.

It was the generation after us, that second round of kids that you talk about, that came of age and started going to University right around the time that Boomers began to retire, leaving all these well paying jobs for them to pick up now that us X’ers had already settled on the crappy jobs.

TeenieBopper ,

Millennials aren’t going to be the savior you think they are. Like, I want to be hopeful, but I see a lot of Millennials my age just acting scared. They’ve finally gotten some stability, they’ve finally gotten some comfort, and they’re incredibly loss averse. I see a bunch of people my age bought a house in the suburbs posting in the neighborhood Facebook group every time there’s a loud bang “did anyone hear that noise? What was it?” with people lamenting about how the neighborhood is going downhill.

Ten years ago, millennials were pissed the fuck off and were ready to burn shit to the ground. The ruling class gave them just enough to be scared of losing it.

vga ,

Millenials might just make it, but if Gen Z is actually like what it looks like, leadership positions everywhere are going to skip a generation.

paddirn ,

People raised with the same ideas as their parents/friends/society aren’t going to magically change just because they come from a younger generation. When Millennials start coming into power, there are still going to be Millennials on both sides of the political divide. The Republican ones will likely be just as insane, if not worse than the Boomers or the Gen Xers. It’s not like Millennials are just magically going to all be progressive and everything changes. Any of them getting into politics are going to become part of the mainstream political culture and internalize their political beliefs as they learn from their elders. The Right is much more organized about maintaining their ideas and pushing their beliefs, that’s why they work so hard to suppress the other side.

TheDeepState ,

Kick the Boomers out!

samus12345 ,
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Even if Harris were Gen X, this would be premature.

PunnyName ,

Warm bodies outnumber the dead, news at 11.

pyre ,

you’d think so, but boomers had it so good they hardly ever die. the amount of stress they left the newer generations while not giving a fuck themselves made them likely to outlast some millennials let alone xers.

Akasazh ,
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I’ll take your comment at face value and see it as a comment on the theory that ‘there’s more people alive today than have ever lived’.

scientificamerican.com/…/fact-or-fiction-living-o…

However that seems not to be true. The dead are more numerous. However they are unlikely to vote (unless the republicans find a way).

CulturedLout ,

youtu.be/y2dFN_UVmBg?si=OKcxwIdLM0OVCL2C&t=3m20s

PunnyName ,

I do appreciate this clarification. Granted it wasn’t my intent, as I was more focused on modern history.

But hey, learn something new every day!

Akasazh ,
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No I didn’t read that in your comment, but found it too interesting a tidbit not to share !

Godort ,

Considering the nature of linear time, I dont know what the alternative could be.

ccunning ,

Biden is actually the first and only president from “The Silent Generation”

(Side note: Trump, Dubya, and Bubba were all born in 1946)

meeeeetch ,

Within two months and one week of each other.

ech ,

Huh, that’s interesting.

Pacattack57 ,

You know how in school they say “one day one of you will be president.” Well for Bidens generation all of them were wrong except his teacher

merc ,

It’s also possible that Gen X will be skipped over the way the Silent Generation was skipped.

Kamala is the youngest possible Boomer (born in 1964). If she wins and serves 2 terms she’ll be out in 2032. At that point Gen X will be between 52 and 67. People might want a candidate younger than that.

ArbitraryValue ,

I would vote for a vampire, mummy, or other deathless creature.

Paddzr ,

Dracula was pretty cool…

Assman ,
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We could all die in some catastrophic event

Arbiter ,

God I hope so.

motor_spirit ,

The great leveling🤙

nobleshift ,
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There are still plenty of us Xers who are complete and utter cunts. Don’t let your guard down.

xmunk ,

Every generation has plenty of those - no worries!

TheFriar ,

Yeah, they’re called “capitalists.”

folekaule ,

As a Gen Xer I’m heartened to see Gen Z stepping up to literally save the world. Seeing the swell in support for Harris and in voter registration numbers, I for once am feeling hopeful. I hope they can accomplish what the forgotten generation couldn’t.

FireTower ,
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Gen Z reporting in. Above comment’s point was not to generalize an entire demographic as ‘doing good’. & it was a good one. Don’t assume that of us either.

Judging entire groups of people as a monolith is always bad. I’ll add ‘good’ is subjective of an individual’s values. Expect future generations to mock us for what we believe acceptable.

TexasDrunk ,

Expect future generations to mock us for what we believe acceptable.

I sure hope so. If future generations aren’t making fun of me for how backwards I am then we’re not progressing.

FireTower ,
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I’ll caveat that not all changes are ‘good’ changes too. The future generations might not value the things we hold dear, like the jury trial. One day maybe they’ll sadly see that as us wasting ordinary people’s time.

People in the future are not automatically our betters, but our equals, (hopefully) armed with the knowledge of our failings and armed with that of our successes.

Supervivens ,

I feel like the judge cannon stuff is a very good example of why jury trials are a thing. Corrupt judges are real yo

folekaule ,

Very good point, and I did not intend to make an argument about generations being different. Generations indeed consist wholly of individuals with their own opinions. On an individual level, age is no better an indicator of personality than your zodiac sign.

In my comment I just wanted to express that, after a long period of dread, I am feeling more hopeful after seeing so many members of the young generation getting engaged and making a difference where I personally feel we failed.

It was also meant to express appreciation and gratitude to those who are getting involved and as encouragement to those who are yet to do so.

4am ,

Just remember there was leaded gasoline everywhere before 1995, and av-gas mostly still is

xmunk ,

Gen Z unfortunately seems to have stepped back on the gender equality front. I hope it shifts back but self-identified feminists are down compared to millenials and misogyny is up. I’d be happy to attribute most of that to economic stress though.

Kecessa , (edited )

If I’m not mistaken gen X is the first generation to become more progressive as it ages

Orbituary ,
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Def. I’ve only gone harder left/prog/anti-capitalist as I grew older.

nobleshift ,
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Yup

Whirlygirl9 ,

saaaaame...55 and left as hell

Nastybutler ,

Same. Grew up in a conservative household and shared many of the same views when I was younger. But the more the conservatives have shifted towards hating “the other” the more I’ve realized that was always what they, and their policies, were. They’re just not subtle about it now.

If you’re so confident in your world view, you shouldn’t be afraid of it being challenged, whether by speech, or people being free to be who they are, want to be, or were born into. If it doesn’t harm you, why should you care?

The fact that neo Nazis align themselves with the GOP, Trump,and MAGA, should tell you all you need to know. I’ve never donated to a Democrat’s campaign… Until today.

zabadoh ,

As a Gen Xer, I wish that was true, but in terms of US voting patterns, it isn’t

nbcnews.com/…/poll-gen-x-gen-z-take-different-pol…

Kecessa ,

Dang, you’re right, it’s the millennials that are changing that trend!

zabadoh ,

I hope it continues into the Millennials’ later years, but I’m feeling cynical about that…

FenrirIII ,
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Tucker Carlson.

Orbituary ,
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Yeah. X/Mil cusper here. The elder Gen X are more like Boomers than anything, but have more anger and technical acumen.

blattrules ,

This is such a gen Xer thing to say.

randompasta ,

Whatever

InternetUser2012 ,

Ok Boomer

blattrules ,

I guess my joke about the cynicism of genx is getting missed.

circuitfarmer ,
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us Xers

Already I see a lot more self awareness versus the boomers, so it looks like a net positive in any event

merc ,

Not really, you also see a lot of boomers calling out other boomers.

MrMakabar ,

That is true of every generation. Call it a human flaw.

sandbox ,

Generational cohorts are all just made up nonsense. It just exists to distract the working class from what we have in common with each other and what separates us from the working class. I, a millennial, have much more in common with a working class baby boomer, than I do with a rich and powerful millennial.

Stop encouraging these artificial divides. Build solidarity across the working class of all ages. And stop playing into the media’s narratives.

AFC1886VCC ,

Preach. So tired of this bullshit “generation warfare”.

spidermanchild ,

I think you’re conflating two different things. There are a variety of social factors that affect age cohorts differently, and a lot of that comes down to the experience during formative years. We are a product of our environment in many ways, and it’s not nonsense to study and opine on these shared experiences and how they shape us. Class solidarity is an entirely different subject. You likely do have more in common with your social class across generations, but that doesn’t mean you don’t have anything in common with wealthy millennials. I wouldn’t let lazy journalism own the concept of generations itself.

sandbox ,

The lived experience of people differs as much, or more, within age cohorts, as it does between age cohorts. They are lazy and hasty generalisations, with very little benefit outside of garbage op-eds and zombie statistics.

EnderWiggin ,

I’m fully in support of Kamala, but she’s not Gen X. Close, but no cigar. She was born in 1964.

padge ,

I can’t tell if she looks young for her age, or if she looks super young compared to everyone else on stage wirh her

Catma ,

Probably a combination of three things. First hate ages you terribly, example Laura Loomer, Alex Jones. Second she is a child compared to Biden/Trump. And third and finally as clichè as it is black dont crack

Ghostalmedia ,
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Also, and this is a biggie, she didn’t have kids. Kids harvest your life force in order to grow.

bitchkat ,

The dates for these generations are not set in stone. Lots of organizations use 1965 to 1980 but the US SSA uses 1965 as the start.

People born around the transition points are going to have more in common with each other than with people born earlier in the date range. Especially when you consider families having kids a few years apart but each is apparently a different “generation”.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X#:~:text=U.S. n….

tipicaldik , (edited )

She’s Generation Jones. So am I (b. 1963)

Damn, they even have her picture on the page 😆

Generation Jones is noted for coming of age after a huge swath of their older siblings in the earlier portion of the Baby Boomer population; thus, many note that there was a paucity of resources and privileges available to them that were seemingly abundant to older Boomers. Therefore, there is a certain level of bitterness and “jonesing” for the level of doting and affluence granted to older Boomers but denied to them

EnderWiggin ,

This reminds me of the Xennial generation that fell between X and Millennial. This also sort of shows how little we can really actually equate from these 20+ year generational spans. Really I am just happy she’s not old enough to collect SSI yet.

tigeruppercut ,

Hard cutoff dates for generations has always been a stupid concept. Imagine believing that an Xer born in 1980 has more in common with an Xer from '65 than a millennial from '82.

wjrii ,

Family context also plays a role. My wife and I are “officially” Xennials, born a year apart in the late 70s. I have a brother seven years older than me, and she was the first born. I skew way more Gen X than she does, to the point where she doesn’t see any point in describing herself as anything other than a Millennial.

bitwaba ,

Yeah, I was born in 84 but I identify pop culture wise much closer to my step brothers that are 1.5 and 3.5 years older as Xennails than I would my millennial counterparts.

merc ,

Named generations is a stupid concept in general. It’s vaguely useful as a shorthand to talk about people’s life experiences based on when they were born and how old they are now. But, it’s mostly like astrology, saying that people born under a certain sign behave a certain way.

computerscientistII ,

Kamala was born in 64. She’s a boomer. Also, GTFO with Generation Jones. She’s a boomer. X-ers are those who came after the pill became omnipresent after the mid 60s. I am one of those (born in 77). We are relatively few in numbers in comparison to the boomers. Because of the pill. Also GTFO with Generation Jones. She’s a boomer.

Trump and Biden also aren’t boomers. They predate the boomers. They were born during or shortly after WW2. That’s usually called the silent generation. Trump being part of the silent generation is of course ridiculous. But he’s the exception of the rule, I guess. But both are born very late in that generation, so they are its last remnants I guess. Soon they will all be gone.

Nastybutler ,

Boomers is short for Baby Boomers which were literally the babies born after WW2 vets came home and had families. I don’t know why your misinformed comment has so many upvotes

Zaktor ,

What’s the fact you’re objecting to? The only thing wrong is Trump as a Silent as he’s born in the very first year of the Boomers. Everything else is following the common definitions.

computerscientistII ,

You might be right there. I’m German. And many a man did come back later, after the war, here. A lot of refugees were forcefully relocated from what is today Poland. Also a lot of POWs came back long after the war was over. So the baby boom was a bit delayed over here.

Akasazh ,
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Then again, you’re a computer scientist, not an historian, and therefore excusable :p

Zaktor ,

It all depends on whether you start counting from 0 or 1!

FlyingSquid ,
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Where does the common definition of ‘Boomer’ say it starts after 1946 (the year Trump was born) and stops with the birth control pill (1960)?

I have never seen such a definition anywhere. Certainly not one that says it starts at least two years after the end of WWII.

Zaktor ,

Huh? I’m saying Trump is Boomer because Boomers start in 1946. And it goes to 1964, which is when the birth control pill was recognized as a contraceptive. I don’t know if X is defined by that in the same way Boomers are defined by a specific event, but it lines up precisely.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomers

FlyingSquid ,
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I guess you didn’t read down very far since it talks about multiple definitions.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomers#Date_range_and…

Zaktor ,

You literally just asked about where the common definition came from. Read the first fucking paragraph man.

FlyingSquid ,
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I did not ask anything. I certainly didn’t ask that:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/300e497a-d3df-4da8-b354-41c220017464.png

Pretty amusing that you’re accusing me of not reading though.

Zaktor ,

You’re in the wrong fucking thread. Get it together before you go randomly aggro.

You, in the post I originally replied to:

Where does the common definition of ‘Boomer’ say it starts after 1946 (the year Trump was born) and stops with the birth control pill (1960)?

FlyingSquid ,
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Okay, sorry about that, but you’re still wrong because it’s anywhere between 1943 and “mid-1946” as per that Wikipedia page.

merc ,

We are relatively few in numbers in comparison to the boomers

That’s not true. The birth rate dropped slightly from the low 20s per 1000 in the 40s to the mid-60s, then dropped to the high teens in the Gen X era. Relatively few in numbers implies that there were twice as many boomers or something. The reality is that there were about 75 million baby boomers births, and about 65 million Gen X.

Trump is a boomer (1946, same year as Clinton and Bush), Biden is a “silent generation” guy, born before the end of WWII. He’s actually the first (and presumably last) Silent Generation president. The ones before him were all boomers or “greatest” generation.

FlyingSquid ,
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I’m amused with all the people who think there’s some hard line where you have to be born before or after some exact year to be of a named generation as if this wasn’t all made up. A baby didn’t get labeled Gen-X if they were born after midnight on a certain day.

As far as I’m concerned, she’s Gen-X. She was 13 when Star Wars came out.

razorwiregoatlick ,
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Maybe I am missing something but you do have to be born before or after some exact year to be of a named generation. That’s kind of the definition. Gen X is 1965 - 1980.

FlyingSquid ,
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Dude, it’s all made up and there is no hard definition for the years of Gen X.

I mean if you really want to be pedantic about it, the people we call Boomers these days are the original Gen X.

The term Generation X has been used at various times to describe alienated youth. In the early 1950s, Hungarian photographer Robert Capa first used Generation X as the title for a photo-essay about young men and women growing up immediately following World War II. The term first appeared in print in a December 1952 issue of Holiday magazine announcing their upcoming publication of Capa’s photo-essay.

Or maybe it’s people born in the 1950s and 1960s?

The term acquired a modern application after the release of Generation X: Tales for an Accelerated Culture, a 1991 novel written by Canadian author Douglas Coupland; however, the definition used there is “born in the late 1950s and 1960s”, which is about ten years earlier than definitions that came later.[16][17][13][18] In 1987, Coupland had written a piece in Vancouver Magazine titled “Generation X” which was “the seed of what went on to become the book”.

Or maybe it’s 1965-1980?

In the U.S., the Pew Research Center, a non-partisan think-tank, delineates a Generation X period of 1965–1980 which has, albeit gradually, come to gain acceptance in academic circles.

Or maybe it’s “Gen X is whatever we decide it is.”

The Brookings Institution, another U.S. think-tank, sets the Gen X period as between 1965 and 1981.[31] The U.S. Federal Reserve Board uses 1965–1980 to define Gen X.[32] The U.S. Social Security Administration (SSA) defines the years for Gen X as between 1964 and 1979. The US Department of Defense (DoD), conversely, use dates 1965 to 1977.[33] In their 2002 book When Generations Collide, Lynne Lancaster and David Stillman use 1965 to 1980, while in 2012 authors Jain and Pant also used parameters of 1965 to 1980.[34] U.S. news outlets such as The New York Times[35][36] and The Washington Post[37] describe Generation X as people born between 1965 and 1980. Gallup,[38] Bloomberg,[39] Business Insider,[40] and Forbes[41][42] use 1965–1980. Time magazine states that Generation X is “roughly defined as anyone born between 1965 and 1980”.[43] George Masnick of the Harvard Joint Center for Housing Studies puts this generation in the time-frame of 1965 to 1984, in order to satisfy the premise that boomers, Xers, and millennials “cover equal 20-year age spans”.[44]

In Australia, the McCrindle Research Center uses 1965–1979.[45] In the UK, the Resolution Foundation think-tank defines Gen X as those born between 1966 and 1980.[46] PricewaterhouseCoopers, a multinational professional services network headquartered in London, describes Generation X employees as those born from 1965 to 1980.[47]

But those are just think tanks. Surely other experts have a specific range, right?

On the basis of the time it takes for a generation to mature, U.S. authors William Strauss and Neil Howe define Generation X as those born between 1961 and 1981 in their 1991 book titled Generations, and differentiate the cohort into an early and late wave.[48] Jeff Gordinier, in his 2008 book X Saves the World, include those born between 1961 and 1977 but possibly as late as 1980.[9] George Masnick of the Harvard Joint Center for Housing Studies puts this generation in the time-frame of 1965 to 1984, in order to satisfy the premise that boomers, Xers, and millennials “cover equal 20-year age spans”.[44] In 2004, journalist J. Markert also acknowledged the 20-year increments but goes one step further and subdivides the generation into two 10-year cohorts with early and later members of the generation. The first begins in 1966 and ends in 1975 and the second begins in 1976 and ends in 1985; this thinking is applied to each generation (Silent, boomers, Gen X, millennials, etc.).[49]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X

This isn’t science, it’s categorization based on pretty arbitrary stuff.

razorwiregoatlick ,
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Yeah, it’s all made up. That how names work. What exactly is your point? They are made up to label something.

FlyingSquid ,
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I just showed you my point quite well. That there’s no agreed-upon definition of the term like you suggested. All I can think is that you read nothing I pasted.

razorwiregoatlick ,
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No, I didn’t suggest that. I asked for clarification because you said it amused you that people thought being born before or after some year made you part of a generation. That is literally the fucking definition! There are certainly different definitions of those generations but regardless they are all based on a person being born before or after a certain year.

FlyingSquid ,
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Your words:

That’s kind of the definition. Gen X is 1965 - 1980.

I showed you very clearly that it is one of many definitions of Gen X. Some of them apply to Harris.

razorwiregoatlick ,
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My point was to show that they are defined by a span of years. I see now that this concept is hard for you to understand.

FlyingSquid ,
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Yes, they are defined by a span of years. An arbitrary span no one agrees on. Thus, Generation X not definitively 1965-1980 as you said. Even the U.S. government disagrees with that definition.

It’s anything from the late 1920s to the mid 1980s depending on who you ask.

razorwiregoatlick ,
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So you are saying it’s arbitrary and then in the very next sentence make the statement that it is defined as 1920 - 1980? Do you even know what you are trying to say at this point?

FlyingSquid ,
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You are not reading very well:

It’s anything from the late 1920s to the mid 1980s depending on who you ask.

Meaning that it is arbitrary.

razorwiregoatlick ,
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I’m reading just fine thank you. “Gen X is anything from 1965 to 1980.” What is the difference between that and what you said? Just the date range. It’s obvious this concept is just too much for your brain to handle or you are just being stubborn. No need to message me anymore.

FlyingSquid ,
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I guess you still aren’t reading clearly. I’ll make it bigger so you can:

> depending on who you ask.

razorwiregoatlick ,
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    Rookwood ,

    Gen X is too small to matter. Millennials are stepping up and will compete with Boomers for a little while until they finally take over. Thing about Millennials though is that it is a very K shaped generation. About half have had decent success and are conservative/liberal and the other half have been absolutely crushed so it’s kind of a mixed bag and as long as the Boomers have any influence not much is likely to change. GenZ is bigger than Millennials though and should be right behind them. They are very different and much more politically radical, on both the left and right. Things are likely to change with them.

    SteveFromMySpace , (edited )

    There are a lot of radical conservative millennials I’m not sure where you’re getting this from. I’d need to see numbers before I agree with a lot of this. All the YouTube/new media grifters personalities and radical passionate members of the house are millennials.

    Omegamanthethird ,
    @Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m worried about the Alphas and younger Zs who weren’t paying attention until after Covid. The news doesn’t talk about Trump’s laundry list of controversies or extremism. They just yell about the economy and the border and point at Biden.

    As usual, they make rationalists look alarmist.

    Carrolade ,

    One thing I’m looking forward to with millennial leadership is just people that finally fully understand the power of the internet, big data and what truly distinguishes the information age. If you didn’t grow up with it, it’s hard to grapple with just how much it truly upended … fucking everything. They mostly still don’t understand that a computer can basically read their mind now, just through indirect data gathering and comparing them to all of the other people. We all get that at a more intuitive level, we’ve spent too long around these algorithms and seas of semi-anonymous others.

    Of course we’ll be in some quantum AI room-temp-superconductor age by then, so, y’know how it goes. But we should at least have a better handle on the information age problems, so that’ll be nice.

    Samvega ,

    But we should at least have a better handle on the information age problems, so that’ll be nice.

    Technology keeps creating new problems. The problems don’t stay still and wait to be fixed.

    crank0271 ,

    Not to be contrary, but the problems aren’t technology’s fault. That’s all on us.

    Hobbes_Dent ,

    Spoken just like the boomers. Heads up your own asses just like them.

    65 million X compared to 72 millennial. Wow. Carry on.

    Whatever.

    boogetyboo ,
    @boogetyboo@aussie.zone avatar

    Are you ok

    radivojevic ,

    Are you?

    boogetyboo ,
    @boogetyboo@aussie.zone avatar

    I’m absolutely spiffing, thanks for asking! Yourself?

    radivojevic ,

    Adequate.

    boogetyboo ,
    @boogetyboo@aussie.zone avatar

    Fair to middling?

    radivojevic ,

    Sufficient to acceptable. Not good—but not bad! I’m… fine.

    boogetyboo ,
    @boogetyboo@aussie.zone avatar

    Sounds perfectly cromulent.

    radivojevic ,

    Yes Ms. Hoover

    modifier ,

    I am not, but I think that’s unrelated. Mostly. Or not at all.

    radivojevic ,

    In an existential sense?

    pixel_prophet ,

    It’s almost like generational distinction is meaningless and it’s actually about class.

    classic ,

    And life stages

    ripcord ,
    @ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

    There’s apparently 65.2 million Gen Xers vs 75 million millenials. Smaller, but “too small to matter” seems like a really weird take.

    Objection ,

    The median age of the senate is 65. The article is just cherry picking.

    cantw8togo ,

    Thanks for this post. It’s been entertaining reading.

    HubertManne ,

    heck no. millenials can have it.

    classic ,

    And that's how you can tell a real Gen Xer

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