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foggy ,

I genuinely think Jones has a yet to be defined metal disorder.

iamanurd ,

Heavy metal disorder?

foggy ,

Possibly. I think he really lacks an ability to see how his attention seeking habits negatively affect others, and I don’t think he’s quite capable of having it explained to him.

I feel like something broke in his brain when he got fuck you money for doing good investigative journalism in the early 90s.

Like his brain went “oh okay. Just tell people how they’re being manipulated and you get a free ride.” and he’s been stuck there ever since. And his tales of how we’re being manipulated grew taller and taller.

It’s like some attention seeking shit mixed with a super low IQ. Idk.

Wytch ,

His inability to stop speaks to me of self-destructive desires.

Hugh_Jeggs ,

I’m of the opinion that the car-based society in the States throughout the 50s to the 90s is the reason they’re all fucked in the head due to lead poisoning from gas fumes

So yes, heavy metal poisoning

psycho_driver ,

That might explain some of the boomer problems. Jones is a gen-xer though, we had phased lead based fuel out of almost everything by the time he was growing up.

He very well could have eaten lead paint chips as a kid though. His supplements have also been tested and shown to contain unhealthy amounts of lead.

Dasus ,
@Dasus@lemmy.world avatar

…duke.edu/…/lead-exposure-last-century-shrunk-iq-…

Leaded gasoline calculation to have stolen over 800 million cumulative IQ points since 1940s

A new study calculates that exposure to car exhaust from leaded gas during childhood stole a collective 824 million IQ points from more than 170 million Americans alive today, about half the population of the United States.

jj4211 ,

about half the population of the United States.

Hey, about half voted for Trump, weird coincidence.

maxinstuff ,
@maxinstuff@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, just plain old schitzophrenia 🤖

UltraGiGaGigantic ,

He makes his money this way. Sometimes things don’t have to be complicated.

Nobody ,

Exactly. It doesn’t make sense because it’s a grift. These “pundits” are getting rich by scaring ignorant people.

aStonedSanta ,

We are all so distracted with our own problems we allow the wolves to run rampant. It’s quite sad.

Zoomboingding ,
@Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

Making money by worsening the world around you is a mental disorder

Leviathan ,

Exactly, it’s akin to a dog pushing a button to get a treat, he’ll push it more and more often if it works. Except in this case the button is what gets his fans engaged and the treat is money.

Dasus ,
@Dasus@lemmy.world avatar

I’m of the opinion that we defined it several thousand years ago, in some form at least.

howtobeastoic.wordpress.com/…/one-crucial-word/

Belangia helpfully adds: “A-gnoia means literally ‘not-knowing’; a-mathia means literally ‘not-learning.’ In addition to the type of amathia that is an inability to learn, there is another form that is an unwillingness to learn. … Robert Musii in an essay called On Stupidity, distinguished between two forms of stupidity, one he called ‘an honorable kind’ due to a lack of natural ability and another, much more sinister kind, that he called ‘intelligent stupidity.'”

Belangia also quotes Glenn Hughes, from an essay entitled “Voegelin’s Use of Musil’s Concept of Intelligent Stupidity in Hitler and the Germans,” providing a further elucidation of the concept of amathia (italics in the original):

“The higher, pretentious form of stupidity stands only too often in crass opposition to [its] honorable form. It is not so much lack of intelligence as failure of intelligence, for the reason that it presumes to accomplishments to which it has no right … The stupidity this addresses is no mental illness, yet it is most lethal; a dangerous disease of the mind that endangers life itself. … [S]ince the ‘higher stupidity’ consists not in an inability to understand but in a refusal to understand, any healing or reversal of it will not occur through rational argumentation, through a greater accumulation of data and knowledge, or through experiencing new and different feelings … We may say that the reversal of a spiritual sickness must entail a spiritual cure.”

Machinist ,
@Machinist@lemmy.world avatar

Willful ignorance is the greatest sin. I’ve been saying that for a while now, not that I believe in sin.

COVID was a real eye opener for me. Seeing how far people would go to remain ignorant.

Stupid can’t be helped and there is nothing wrong with it. Ignorance is different and not necessarily bad, if you see that you’re ignorant about something, you can choose to educate yourself.

However, willful ignorance is a different thing. I believe that most of society’s ills are rooted in willful ignorance and its exploitation by the evil.

Dasus ,
@Dasus@lemmy.world avatar

However, willful ignorance is a different thing. I believe that most of society’s ills are rooted in willful ignorance and its exploitation by the evil.

“Wisdom alone, is the good for man, ignorance the only evil” (Euthydemus 281d)

“There is, he said, only one good, that is, knowledge, and only one evil, that is, ignorance” (in Diogenes Laertius, II.31)

Personally I believe in the statement about “a spiritual disease needing a spiritual cure”, but I’m not going for some spiritual mumbojumbo. If we take the spiritual disease to be some sort of block in your empathic abilities, however conscious or unconscious, and then we look at some of the most recent studies on empathogens (MDMA, LSD, psilocybin, etc), it wouldn’t be unreasonable to suggest that the “spiritual cure” might be something as simple as MDMA/psychedelic-assisted therapy.

Maybe we could call looking into this something like "Project Pretty-obvious-when-you-think-about-it "

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

“It’s difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it.”

AA5B ,

not that I believe in sin

It’s perfectly legitimate to have the concept of sin, even if you don’t believe in a deity. There’s a moral code, whether defined by religious precepts, societal convention, personal preference,or objective logic, and evil is a sin against that regardless.

dwemthy ,

He has a “freakishly large neck” (his words) that prevents him from getting enough oxygen when he sleeps. When he was young he spent hours under a house with insecticide spray in the air. I’m sure there are other tidbits in forgetting, but suffice it to say that you’re underselling him by saying he has “a” yet to be defined mental disorder.

todd_bonzalez ,
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Look, fuck Alex Jones, but the title of the Twitter Space was “Will the Deep State Assassinate Biden If He Refuses To Leave?”

Which is some crazy conspiratorial nonsense, but it is pretty far from a call to assassinate Biden. It does technically have the words “assassinate Biden” in it, so the headline is correct on a literal level, but this is some serious click bait…

You could just as easily say “Rawstory posts article with ‘Assassinate Biden’ in the title”, and be just as correct.

paf0 ,

Hey, this is Alex Jones, nuance and honestly aren’t allowed /s

lightnsfw ,

More hack journalism, they don’t even mention the actual title until the very end of the article. I’m pissed I even clicked on that garbage.

aseriesoftubes ,

You make a good point, but I still think that this is more stochastic terrorism from the right. They’re putting the notion of assassinating the president out there into the weak minds of their listeners, who will take that information and do with it what they will. It’s so indirect that Jones and co have plausible deniability.

Note how they don’t ask if the derp state will assassinate Trump, even though he’s supposed to be its enemy.

daltotron ,

They’re putting the notion of assassinating the president out there into the weak minds of their listeners, who will take that information and do with it what they will.

I do understand they can do multiple things at once even if they can barely walk and chew gum, and I would like if they were wiped from the face of the earth, but I would much rather that they turn their attention towards the president, instead of putting their attention on trans people or whatever racial minority comes up week by week to rile up the base. The president has a large amount of protection on him at all times, the chances that any right wing nutjob can target him effectively strike me as shockingly low, and if they did target him, then probably you’d see something actually happen to prosecute them. Basically nobody else has that same level of protection.

todd_bonzalez ,
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He’s implying that Biden’s assassination would be good for the left, so it doesn’t seem like that would motivate his base.

Passerby6497 ,

They’re putting the notion of assassinating the president out there into the weak minds of their listeners

While I don’t think you’re wrong, AJ has been talking about the president being assassinated for more than a decade. He was sure Trump was going to be assassinated almost constantly during his administration (poisoned cokes and hamberders were popular options).

People should stop giving that coked out drunkard any publicity, that’s literally all he wants. Well, that and to sell you all kinds of InfoWars Dr Jones Naturals supplements THAT ARE IN NO WAY ASSOCIATED WITH INFOWARS, even though his dad owns it and sells all the same products and his mom is talking to him about his dad retiring.

ZMonster ,
@ZMonster@lemmy.world avatar

People should stop giving that coked out drunkard any publicity, that’s literally all he wants.

Well, someone was apparently awake during wonk class. Spot on comrade.

DarkCloud ,

If you’re always giving people who don’t play fair, the benefits of the doubt, you’re going to end up with fascism.

Never help vipers survive, they’ll only end up stinging you.

todd_bonzalez ,
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If I don’t give people the benefit of a doubt, then I am the one playing unfairly.

Alex Jones may be a liar, but I’m not.

DarkCloud ,

Yes you are, you’re pretending the title doesn’t contain the words “assassinate Biden”, when it clearly does. Now you’re pretending this was ever about truth and lies, when it never was.

It’s about perception, conveying the quite accurate perception that Alex Jones aids a politically unhinged and destabilizing political atmosphere.

He should be painted as such, instead you’re out here pretending like he’s a good honest man, that is being lied about.

You’re lending your honesty and labour, to a side of politics unworthy of the honour.

You have fallen into the trap of telling the Nazis there are Jews in the basement, thinking it will prove that you’re a good person, when it in fact just makes you culpable for the success of fascists.

theluckyone ,

“Would no one rid me of this troublesome priest?”

DandomRude ,
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How does this guy still have an audience?

suction ,

I think he’s saner than Trump. Because Alex Jones doesn’t really believe the shit he says. But Trump is narcissistic to a level where he would take down the world him if he has no more options to “win”.

rbesfe ,

“news articles” that just showcase tweets should be banned from this community

ZMonster ,
@ZMonster@lemmy.world avatar

Also anything Alex Jones. This right here, is EXACTLY why he does what he does. No PR is bad PR for him. The dumbest move is trying to tell people about how dumb this guy is. It’s only feeding him. This is how Trump won. Keep your name in the Zeitgeist. Keep gaslighting your victimization and the victimization of your constituency. Gish. motherfucking. Gallop.

wolfeh ,
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“Will the Deep State assassinate Biden if he refuses to leave?”

This is the full title of the podcast episode. It doesn’t tell us until the very, very bottom of that article.

Also, Alex Jones can eat shit. That is all.

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