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PancakeTrebuchet ,

I’ve stopped carrying while out in public entirely, and this is one of the reasons.

I also don’t want to be mistaken for a bad guy and shot by a LEO or another civilian who’s carrying.

dogsnest OP ,
@dogsnest@lemmy.world avatar

Heard.

MerrySkeptic ,

A kid with his whole life in front of him is dead because some wannabe cop decided it was his duty to guard the parking lot that nobody asked him to guard.

And the icing on the cake: he did this while his own son was in martial arts class. Now this asshat is likely going to prison (there’s witnesses and video surveillance and he’s not a cop so he will get some kind of prison time) and his own son is going to miss out on having his dad in his life.

This country has a fucking problem. We sold our soul to capitalism and this is what happens. There’s no hope for meaningful legislation. Any systemic reform that might hurt an industry with enough money has no hope.

But hey, thoughts and prayers, and all that bullshit

MeekerThanBeaker ,

and his own son is going to miss out on having his dad in his life.

Maybe in this case, it’s for the best.

givesomefucks ,

OP is making jokes in their summary, but this is serious, a kids fucking dead.

And this isn’t pranking and getting consequences. They were walking into a store to return one, and some fucking asshat attacked and killed one of them

Myers saw three teens approach the Big 5 Sporting Goods store with what he thought were handguns and believed they were going to rob the store, according to the affidavit. He further stated that he felt he did not have time to call 911 and that he “had a duty to act to stop the individuals from hurting someone innocent, and to protect his son,” per the court filing.

Myers, who was armed with a registered semiautomatic pistol, told police he approached the teens with his gun out and told them to put their hands in the air, but no one complied, the police affidavit said. He then fired multiple rounds at the victim because he thought the teen was reaching into the waistband of his pants for what Myers believed was a gun and that the teen “was going to kill him,” according to the filing.

unmagical ,

The account really reads like he lept to using his gun as a first resort instead of the last. When all you have is a hammer…

Also, in a country filled with those who pride themselves on the right to own guns and on their actual ownership of guns I’m still surprised that people view other people having guns as a justification to kill them.

Police kill someone in a routine traffic stop? It’s okay, he had a gun.

Random citizen kills another random citizen? It’s okay, he had a gun.

Cybermonk_Taiji ,

I see your problem.

You are looking for any kind of intellectual consistency or good faith argument from these cretins.

AlternatePersonMan ,

So, this guy had a gun on him, and saw someone else with a gun… And thought person with a gun, danger!?

What an asshole.

SeaJ ,

I wonder why the guy thought the kid was going to rob the place? Oh…he was brown.

Raiderkev ,

Also, said person was going into the gun store with a gun 🤡

macarthur_park ,

he approached the teens with his gun out and told them to put their hands in the air, but no one complied

Well yeah, he’s not a cop. He’s a random lunatic with a gun.

callouscomic ,

I mean, cops also seem to just be random lunatics with a gun, and handed a badge.

Ithral ,
@Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The most protected gang in the US

kent_eh ,

The Rambo fantasy kills another innocent kid.

And also, very likely, traumatized multiple others who just witnessed a couple of teenagers get shot and killed.

cyborganism ,

They’ll ban Airsoft guns for looking too realistic. Just watch.

tiefling ,

They’ve been trying for as long as they’ve been around. As long as they have an orange tip they’re considered “safe” (which is about as foolproof as safeguarding a vault with a “keep out” sign)

meco03211 ,

Even worse there are people painting real guns with orange tips or too look like nerf guns.

Warl0k3 ,

The orange tip thing isn’t even a requirement for airsoft guns

(section 1150.1.b )

(this country is broken)

partial_accumen ,

They’ll have to ban cell phones too, because people have been shot for holding cell phones that “looked like a gun”.

cyborganism ,

Exactly. Can’t have those either.

DickFiasco ,

Should probably ban acorns too, because they sound too much like real guns. Or so I hear.

cyborganism ,

That’s what I heard too.

MagicShel , (edited )

If the man had an airsoft gun, that would’ve also been fine.

over_clox ,

Hey, in all fairness, I think Super Soaker water guns should get a free pass.

Aside from that, yeah it wouldn’t be a bad idea if they banned all those toy guns, especially the ones designed to resemble real guns.

HuntressHimbo ,

Personally I’d rather they banned the real ones and left the toys

over_clox ,

Fair enough, good point.

That’s still not gonna get rid of all the guns already out in the wild though.

thefartographer ,

guns… out in the wild

Nature is healing!

Cybermonk_Taiji ,

Neither would banning airsoft guns get rid of the ones “out in the wild”

Do you ever think about what you are saying or do you just like spewing bullshit and rolling all around in it?

over_clox ,

Neither option is gonna fix the problem. Guns, both real and toy, are already out there en masse.

Figure out a solution to that issue, then come talk to me. In the meantime, people wanna defend themselves.

Disclaimer: I’m not an advocate for guns. I never have been. Just saying, guns exist already, both real and toy.

Gonkulator ,

Im a bit of a radical but hear me out. What if instead of having toy guns we had kids “play” at planting a community garden, mowing lawns for the elderly and handicapped, and picking up litter at the local park? Nah, teaching children guns are toys is the obvious way to go. Or ya know, fuck guns, real or fake.

NoIWontPickAName ,

So work instead of play?

iAmTheTot ,

To be honest I’m not convinced this is an issue. I admit whole heartedly that my own personally experience is not data, but anecdotally I grew up playing with lots of guns and playing violent make believe, hell I even played GTA3 at a definitely not appropriate age, but I grew up to be a pacifist.

HuntressHimbo ,

I.M.O. an important aspect of play is its self-directed. If they prefer that, absolutely, but I would rather let them choose and try to provide safe ways for them to explore. If they choose gardening that would be wonderful, if they choose to play with nerf guns or airsoft guns we should try and provide safety and caution to insulate them from being injured, but otherwise let them play

son_named_bort ,

That sounds like slavery with extra steps.

partial_accumen ,

Do you honestly think that kids need a molded plastic or stamped metal toy gun to “play with guns”? Have you never seen kids pick up a “Y” shaped stick off the ground and say “bang bang!” or “zap zap!” pretending its a gun (or laser gun)?

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