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Trump bemoans lack of immigrants from majority-white countries to the US

Ex-president avoided past ‘shithole countries’ racist invective, but said the US hadn’t gotten enough immigrants from ‘nice countries’

Donald Trump bemoaned a lack of immigrants to the US from “nice” countries “like Denmark [or] Switzerland”, offering millionaire donors at a Florida fundraiser a reprise of infamous racist Oval Office remarks about people coming to America from “shithole countries”.

Trump is the presumptive Republican nominee for president again, despite facing 88 criminal charges and multimillion-dollar civil penalties for tax fraud and defamation, the latter arising from a rape allegation a judge called “substantially true”.

According to the New York Times, which cited an unnamed attendee at the Saturday event in Palm Beach, Trump told his audience: “These are people coming in from prisons and jails. They’re coming in from just unbelievable places and countries, countries that are a disaster.

“And when I said, you know, ‘Why can’t we allow people to come in from nice countries,’ I’m trying to be nice. Nice countries, you know like Denmark, Switzerland? Do we have any people coming in from Denmark? How about Switzerland? How about Norway?”

Wanderer ,

The model of importing cheap labour from such differing countries seems like a failed one. He does have a point.

Fedizen ,

its funny because trump isnt even sure he’s making a point here, he’s just riffing. If he wanted to import WORKERS from sweden or denmark he’d implement sectoral bargaining. Of course he wouldn’t do that, he had to be dragged kicking and screaming by canada on the nafta renewal to get min wages for auto workers in mexico.

Wanderer ,

I don’t think that’s what he’s saying at all. You seem to be talking about something else.

TheJims ,

Come to America for Donald Trumps cradle to the grave minimum wage program with zero health care and no retirement.

jordanlund ,
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Why would they leave countries with a higher standard of living and universal health care?

worldpopulationreview.com/…/standard-of-living-by…

Iceland 191.10
Denmark 190.60
Finland 188.10
Switzerland 185.80
Oman 184.80
Austria 183.30
Norway 181.80
Spain 177.70
Estonia 176.40
Germany 176.00
Japan 175.50
Sweden 174.80
United Arab Emirates 173.80
United States 173.00

theUnlikely ,

Wow what does Oman have going on over there?

jordanlund ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Petrodollars. :)

PanArab , (edited )

Nowhere as much as Qatar or Saudi Arabia, yet they aren’t on the list. UAE should be higher up than Oman too but it isn’t.

Perhaps what helps Oman are other things besides oil and gas revenues. Perhaps their lush greenery and ancient frankincense trees.

jordanlund ,
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SA is on the list, just ahead of the US, but yeah, I get where you’re coming from.

vaultdweller013 ,

As I understand it they are exceptionally stable and have been building themselves up since the colonial period. The sultan of Oman didnt live in Zanzibar for nothin’.

PanArab ,

No more stable than any other Gulf countries. But they aren’t involved in any proxy wars and always maintained friendly relations with everyone including Iran.

elucubra ,

I live in Spain. I’ve lived in the US. There is literally no reason to go to the US except to visit of for tourism. Quality of life, and having an excellent health care system, good wather, basically no gun problems (contrary to popular belief, I can own a lot of types of guns, even non-auto assault guns, they are just properly regulated) etc. I’m very employable , and would probably make 2-3 times as much as here, but have no real incentive.

jordanlund ,
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That’s the thing most Americans cannot grasp… money isn’t everything.

FJT ,

Capitalism is king 👑

FJT ,

Hilarious Canada didn’t make the list. Shithole country immigrants keep showing up and that’s exactly what happens.

jordanlund ,
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I cut off the list at 173 because I only wanted to show countries higher than the US.

Canada ranks surprisingly lower at 156.40. I’m not sure why. Maybe the temperatures / treatment of first nations people.

nifty , (edited )
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I mean, not that it would be bad to have more people.

Edit to clarify lol: more interracial marriages are welcome!

ChonkyOwlbear ,

We have reached the point of straight up, mask-off white supremacy (again…)

FJT ,

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    Sam_Bass ,

    Does the orange crybaby not have any mirrors in his side of the house?

    seth ,

    Subtitle: “Shithole person excretes another turd.”

    gmtom , (edited )

    Lmao reminds me of my company. They are headquartered in the US, but have a big office in the UK, and about twice a year someone from the US office comes over to try and recruit us to go over there. And every time no one goes, even though they’re offering us almost twice the equivalent salary to go over, between the women, the queers, non-white people, there’s not a lot of people left that wouldn’t been instantly downgraded the second they stepped off the plane. And out of those left most will care about healthcare or vacation time and uprooting their lives more than a better salary.

    mlg ,
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    Not to mention the infara change would feel like such a downgrade.

    Imagine moving to Houston or Atlanta and learning the horror that you must travel to work every single day in a car in traffic for 2-3 hours, and any commercial business is going to be more than a mile away from your home.

    gmtom ,

    Yeah, im on holiday in Dallas right now and its so bad. The nearest convenience store is over an hours walk away, and if I wanted to go to a supermarket its an almost 40 min walk to a bus stop, and a 20 minute bus ride on a bus that comes once per hour.

    horse ,

    Could it be that America was the “shithole country” all along? 🤔

    JasonDJ ,

    What? No, we are the greatest country in the world. I know because of 13 years of my youth spent in public school where they kept telling me about it.

    ben_dover ,

    Why would someone go from a “nice” country to the US? People want to improve their situation

    laughterlaughter ,

    The U.S. is not some homogeneous entity. It’s huge. It has its bad regions, but it also has its awesome regions as well. Just like the U.K.

    13esq ,

    You’re missing the point.

    People don’t up sticks and move across the world for the fun of it. They do it because they seek a better life, the US mostly can’t offer that for people who already live in an advanced country.

    Like wise, if you don’t want immigrants from “shit hole” countries, your options are to help make their own country better so that they won’t want to leave or to make your own country shitter than theirs so that they won’t want to come.

    laughterlaughter ,

    I moved to Germany for the fun of it (you could say that I was seeking a better life, I guess.)

    I’ve also moved across states in the U.S. for the fun it.

    It can happen.

    I’m aware that a whole lot of people do it for different reasons, though.

    And yeah, I find it funny when Americans complain about migrants from, say, Central America. They should learn the role the U.S. played in destabilizing the region in the 80s.

    samus12345 ,
    @samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

    or to make your own country shitter than theirs so that they won’t want to come.

    Republicans are certainly trying!

    FJT ,

    Leftists ruin everything. Demonrats destroy it all.

    FJT ,

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    BonesOfTheMoon ,

    But it has no social safety nets really which is what “nice white countries” tend to have. Who wants to move somewhere without universal health care from a place that does?

    And also about half the population is certifiable.

    laughterlaughter ,

    You have a point.

    And no, not half of the population. Maybe half of the voting population. The newer generations are less tolerant of the ongoing GOP bullshit.

    Twice in a row Donald Trump lost the popular vote, by millions of people.

    FJT ,

    Good point, Canada too, stay the fuck out!

    RageAgainstTheRich ,

    Just wanted to say, please move your conservative ass back to twitter or something. We want to keep Lemmy nice 😊

    undercrust ,

    LMFAO, easy answer - because those countries are demonstrably better than the shit hole that is the United States.

    God this fuckin turd just doesn’t shut up and the rest of us are forced to hear about it. Enough already.

    FJT ,

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    AnUnusualRelic ,
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    I can’t speak for others, but at the moment, even as entertaining as it is, I’d rather watch the US from a safe distance.

    dejected_warp_core ,

    So would many Americans. Check this out.

    perceptions.eu/migration-in-and-from-america-curr…

    American emigration to Europe totalled [sic] 3,6 million people in 2005, and 5 million in 2019, whereas Americans emigrating to other countries counted 29,3 million people in 2005 and 40 million people in 2019.

    EatATaco ,

    Fyi, that article refers to anyone from the Americas as Americans. It does not mean us citizens.

    PanArab ,

    What about the white peoples of the Middle East and North Africa?

    Oh wait, you banned them, even if they were Christians.

    FJT ,

    He’s right.

    MapleEngineer ,
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    Most majority white countries have better education, better healthcare, better religious and personal freedom, better personal security, lower crime, and better standards of living than the US.

    Everythingispenguins ,

    So they can’t beat 🎉🎇💥 AMERICA FUCK YEAH 💥🎇🎉

    schnurrito ,

    Yup. White person from Austria here and while my life is far from perfect, I like having 5 weeks of paid vacation, free healthcare and education, not relying on cars, and many other things I wouldn’t have anymore if I migrated to the US. Maybe Trump should run on a platform of implementing those things in the US.

    MapleEngineer ,
    @MapleEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

    Candian here. No place is perfect. Canada is not perfect. I would never consider moving to the US. I like my freedom too much to give it up.

    tiredofsametab ,

    A lot of that is why I left the US. Nowhere is perfect, but a lot of things are better for me personally in Japan.

    MapleEngineer ,
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    So many Americans have never been outside of the US for any length of time. They have no experience with how good things are everywhere else.

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