It’s not really laundering because the income was legal. It’s more like a game of Russian roulette blackmail to allow a negotiable tax evasion rate.
There are a lot of figures left out of the article, but it sounds like a preemptive bailout to handle a company fully prepared to cause the rolling blackouts that would also damage themselves. Plus those credits can most likely be sold and bought like any other commodity, only a bit less regulated. Given a few years of climate change those credits will be extremely valuable. Then again, I’m just a speculative jerk on the worldwide web with an opinion. I could be wrong.
It wasn't any of the people who put in work to propose this or push it forward. Their job is literally to represent people in their district or to do things that will benefit them. They didn't give up a fucking kidney.
It sounds sort of like Elon Musk, a private citizen, just committed conspiracy to perpetuate war crimes. That’s a pretty serious accusation with grave penalties that is somehow not being prosecuted.
I get asking for mercy for family or a close friend, even when they’ve committed crimes, heinous or otherwise. I’ll chalk that up to human emotions.
But ffs, read the room a bit.
His dedication to leading a drug-free life and the genuine care he extends to others make him an outstanding role model and friend.
One of the most remarkable aspects of Danny’s character is his unwavering commitment to discouraging the use of drugs.
His dedication to avoiding all substances has inspired not only me but also countless others in our circle. Danny’s steadfastness in promoting a drug-free lifestyle has been a guiding light in my journey through the entertainment world and has helped me prioritize my well-being and focus on make responsible choices.
Saying stuff like that when he’s convicted of drugging victims before taping them is just nuts. Even by some sense of stupidity you think you’re just trying to highlight that he’s not a habitual drug user, you’re essentially just highlighting how calculated his actions were by drugging his victims.
I commented elsewhere that I wondered if they believe he’s innocent. If they truly believe this is a miscarriage of justice could these letters be written with his appeal in mind? There’s no physical evidence as I understand, maybe they’re going for the “this guy is so sober he wouldn’t even know how to get drugs” angle? I’m just talking out of my arse now but I’m so confused by the level of support for him I can’t help but clutch at straws to try to explain it.
He drugged the women so it’s relevant in that sense. Implying that he wouldn’t know how to obtain the substances needed to do that is an argument for his innocence.
It’s a pathetic argument to make, but it’s not illogical.
Having worked in the entertainment industry- if a drug exists and you want it, you can get it. So everyone knows how to get drugs. That part isn’t all that hard to believe.
I’m just talking out of my arse now but I’m so confused by the level of support for him I can’t help but clutch at straws to try to explain it.
manipulators be manipulating.
Rapists and other abusers are known to very often charm everyone around them. It isn't only a way to lure in their victims, but it's also a great defence against suspicion ("he's such a nice guy, he could never") which has proven to work over and over and over again (and those are just the most famous cases off the top of my head, but the pattern repeats often at all levels of wealth and fame/anonymity).
It’s not a defense, it’s just a character statement to be taken into account in sentencing. I too think Kutcher shouldn’t have written it, but it’s not any kind of defense of the charges
People who preach often about not doing the minor vices, are usually engaged in some heinous shit; the preaching bit is a cover both lying to others and most importantly themselves
I didn’t read the rest of the letter, the paragraphs expressing nondrug use sounded exactly like it needed this to be pointed out. What a silly bar anyway, did you use drugs or not. Then to hear he used them on his victims…these letters are just clueless.
so let me get this straight, danny would get drugs and instead of using it himself, he used it on unsuspecting victims and then taped himself raping them. and this has been a “a guiding light in (ashtons) journey”… “of making responsible choices”…? what.the.fuck?!
At this point it's basically telling on yourself (if it isn't skeletons in his own closet, at bare minimum it's saying he's a piece of shit who openly supports a rapist. A convicted one at that).
Probably a bit of, "I can't believe my friend would do these bad things." People close to someone are harder to convince without seeing things first hand or hearing from other people they are close to.
Ashton Kutcher wants to prevent and stop human trafficking so much so he mostly retired from acting to make a bigger impact against it. Yet he is okay with a rapist cause it’s his “friend”. Talk about a fuckin hypocrite. More proof that the famous and wealthy live by a different standard. No matter how good they seem.
More proof that the famous and wealthy live by a different standard. No matter how good they seem.
You don’t need to be famous or wealthy to overlook or cover up the crimes of someone you know. It happens every day among people of every socioeconomic status, between friends and within families and businesses. In this case he isn’t even trying to cover for him, just wrote a letter supporting him at his trial based on what he knows of the guy. I don’t think it was in good taste, but also don’t think it’s worth shunning Ashton Kutcher over
This is my take. Ashton takes his job very seriously, but if he wanted to remain neutral on this he should have just shut the fuck up and accepted the court rulings like the rest of us.
Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis were two of more than 50 people who wrote to the judge in the Danny Masterson sexual assault trial to support the convicted actor ahead of his sentencing, per court documents obtained by Variety.
I had to look it up because the dates weren’t in the article, but he was convicted in May, and these letters were dated between July and August. He wasn’t sentenced until just a few days ago.
I dunno. Seems like an incredibly fucked up thing to do when it comes to the severity of the crimes. At some point, you turn your back on someone and don’t support them because what they did is beyond the pale. It’s all about context. Being a rapist doesn’t have any context in which I could support you.
Stealing from a store? I got your back. You killed the person that murdered your family? I’ll help you bury the body. You raped women? Get fucked, dickhead. You’re not who I thought you were and you don’t deserve me by your side.
Thank you I know someone who raped some women. We shuned that fucking rapist and turn on back on him.
What he did writing a letter in support of his friend takes away all the good he was doing. Fuck Ashton. He should’ve have turn his back and stay quite.
I mean, if a friend was credibly accused of the stuff he did, I wouldn’t be writing any letters of support. There’s a limit to what you’d do for someone in the name of friendship.
You understand that false allegations happen all the time? This wasn’t, obviously, because he got convicted. But if you drop your friends on an arrest warrant, I wouldn’t want to be your friend.
I mean my comment explicitly mentions becoming aware that my best friend was a rapist, not was accused of it
I suppose I could have said “if one of my friends was credibly accused of rape and it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed it, I would no longer be their friend,” but that doesn’t quite have the same kick, the same pizazzy oomph
My point was, it’s beyond unacceptable for these two to defend a rapist in any way. It’s not defensible just because they were friends. They’re horrible people, end of.
No, that person said that IF they found out their friend was a rapist because of an arrest.
An arrest is upon suspicion, and in rape cases, many times an allegation. That doesn’t mean the person is guilty, that is not how our justice system works. False rape allegations unfortunately hace happened all too often and mostly end up in the victims life being utterly destroyed. The victim here not being the lying rape claimer, but the person who reiceived the false allegation.
It’s also a really shitty situation for people around. Imagine being a mother and your son gets a rape allegation.
The problem is that rape is very hard to prove. If it happenend a few hours ago, no condom, okay then you have some evidence. But was it rape or consensual sex? If it happened years ago it becomes even harder to prove and a lot of times it’s a he said-she said game and unless there is more actual concrete evidence, a judge isn’t going to send a person to jail on a single allegation.
In this case ther were multiple independent testimonies, that helps
But when your friend is accused of rape thrn I guess it up to you, who do you believe? O hoor my friends would know me and trust and believe me.
Then again, maybe that is what Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher did. Trust and believe their friend, and now they “Support” a rapist
2-10%, that’s about right. Do you want I ben part of that statistic, or so you prefer the “innocent until proven guilty” which is the basis of our entire justice system
Western justice systems are not principally designed to send that guilty to jail, their designed to keep the innocent out.
Didn’t Kutcher kick Masterson off his show, “The Ranch”, when he found out about the allegations?
I don’t know what’s going though any of their minds and I don’t know much about the case, but writing letters for your former friend that’s a piece of shit is common. 30 years is a very long time. Longer than Cosby got. So it couldn’t be good. But I wonder what the details are before I immediately jump to “most of the cast are assholes by association”. Also, did no one know about this during the show? Mila even had to stage kiss and hug the guy when their characters were dating.
Both Kutcher and Kunis wrote about Masterson’s drug-free lifestyle, and noted he was a positive force on their lives. During the trial, prosecutors said Masterson drugged women before sexually assaulting them.
Such a long and glowing article for a man who drugged women to rape them. Including the positive quotes from his friends made sense, but a bit more perspective was needed than the few sentences discussing his crimes.
I wondered if it was a “presented without comment” kinda thing? Shade on everyone without explicit condemnation? Maybe the writer was told to write a sympathetic piece and just couldn’t bring themselves to? The more I type the more wishful I realise this thinking is… 😕
"We are gathered here today to honor the memory of Nancy Pelosi, who-"
"Wait, no! I'm still running for Senate in 2032! I just switched to the Zombie Party!"
"...I told you guys this should have been a closed casket funeral."
That’s quite a wild difference from claiming killing tuna saves the environment.
This is saying they only use farmed tuna from sustainable sources, instead of just fishing them from the wild and reducing native populations, as well as not using drugs, GMOs, or synthetic dyes with those farmed fish.
No, but I have to say I’m surprised by the non-family members writing letters of character after he had been convicted of forcible rape. It’s one thing if it’s family I guess, or if the accused had been in the throes of addiction or similar at the time and had changed. But these are people who were working with him at the time he committed these crimes and they’re all testifying about him being such a good example of sobre living and a positive influence. Do they not feel betrayed by him? Do they not believe he did it? It’s strange.
I have to imagine it’s a very difficult thing to cope with; learning something like that about a very close friend. It has to really mess with you. And I can understand the human instinct to want to defend them regardless of your moral standards.
I personally don’t think this goes to show any moral failing on their part. Or at worst, whatever moral failing may be present is mostly due in part to a natural human reaction to complex emotions better dealt with in therapy. As such, I think these two should be afforded a bit of leeway.
Yeah, you just don’t stay friends with someone if you found that out about them. People that say you should have your friends backs no matter what are just insane.
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