This is incredibly obvious but it’s stated this way because a more honest headline would be uninteresting. The last time there was a serious Republican primary was 2015.
So they’re saying debate ratings are lower than the last time there wasn’t an obvious front runner. Yeah, no shit cnbc. Good job.
Yeah, the better question is - whose actually watching? Trump is obviously going to be the nominee unless he’s literally forced off the ballot, and if that happens it’s just going to be chaos because I guarentee he’s just going to continue running as a write in candidate
The government will always want more. The reason you have a judicial oversight is to slow it down. If the judges actually do more that just rubber stamp everything I don’t know but even forcing the rubber stamping is a good idea. Justice can’t happen in secrecy.
It means the people voting republican already know everything they need to know because of their top secret source on youtube with 13.4 million subscribers.
Hey, let’s buy critical services from a right-wing shitbag who has a history of tampering with those services to affect the outcome of military operations on behalf of Russia.
From the description of the incident, it definitely sounded like he feared for his life. A 6 foot something guy keeps advancing on him, asking why he’s thinking of the guy’s penis. He tells the guy to leave him alone multiple times, but the guy keeps advancing. He retreats multiple times, but the guy keeps at it. He even tries knocking the phone out of the guy’s hand, but the guy keeps at it.
It definitely sounds like the guy was afraid of where this was going and tried all of the non-lethal options (retreat, tell the person to stop) before resorting to pulling out his gun. The YouTube “pranker” has nobody to blame but himself. He should have stopped when asked instead of repeatedly pressing the defendant for a YouTube “prank” video.
(I use “prank” in quotes because I don’t consider this type of thing a real prank. It’s just a guy acting like an idiot and calling it “a prank.” A real prank should leave all involved laughing when it’s revealed, not leave one person fearing for their life.)
I’ve been robbed at a busy, open public library with a gaggle of elementary kids literally 15ft away. Being in public ain’t the deterrent you think it is.
Well like the article said, he fucked up by shooting immediately after drawing the weapon, instead of giving Cook (the YouTuber) a chance to see the gun and finally back off. I agree with their decision to keep him in jail because of that one simple fact. The guy should have warned him that he was going to shoot if Cook didn’t back down.
This is wrong and will firmly land you on the wrong side of the law in many places. Pulling a gun is a last resort to defend yourself when de-escalation doesn’t work. You pull the gun when you’ve already determined that you have to fire it. Otherwise you’re just escalating and making the situation more dangerous for yourself and any bystanders. This is also why I don’t carry a gun in the first place even though I might legally be allowed to.
I get what you’re saying, but even just making the threat without pulling a weapon is enough to get a charge in some places. In any case I don’t think we should be carrying guns around in our day to day as if it was normal anyway. It’s kind of like wearing a rubber suit all the time because you’re worried about lightning strikes.
Are you living somewhere abnormally dangerous? You are far more likely to use it when it isn’t needed. It’s the worse bet for most people and if you can’t understand that then your fear is blinding you. This is like someone with OCD saying it’s better to wash their hands constantly “just in case”. Sure maybe you don’t wash your hands for the 20th time one day and catch ebola, but more likely you just destroy your hands over time.
Currently no, where I live is not particularly dangerous. That doesn’t stop the fact that I’ve been held up at gunpoint here by a meth head that was quite a bit larger than I am. And I moved here from a large city, well known for it’s gang violence. People that are so afraid of guns have never been involved in any kind of dangerous situation, and put far to much faith and trust in the Police and Government. There is nothing wrong with being prepared for the worst. Most here that are saying the guy shouldn’t have been afraid because it was a prank are looking at it through hindsight.
Your anecdote is irrelevant. Carrying a gun is not a rational decision for most people because it increases the risk of harm to yourself and others regardless of how you feel about it. I’m not saying this guy should be in jail for defending himself either, but he ultimately was not in mortal danger and wouldn’t be facing charges if he didn’t have that gun.
There is nothing wrong with being prepared for the worst.
There is something wrong with it. There’s always that temptation to use the gun in a situation that doesn’t call for it. We’ve had two “self-defense” shootings in my town in the past few years and in both cases, someone legally carrying a gun used it in a situation where they could have simply walked away, and they probably would have if they didn’t have their guns. The shooters in both situations ended up with felony convictions.
I always find it interesting when folks like you try turning “we don’t all need guns on us all the time” into a fear of guns. When you seen to be afraid of leaving your house unarmed.
From the description of the incident, it definitely sounded like he feared for his life.
No it fucking doesn’t. The whole thing lasted less than 30 seconds and the driver never tried to retreat. He told the prankster no a few times, tried to swat the phone out of his hands, and then shot him. It’s not shocking that the jury had a difficult time coming up with a verdict.
I am not a lawyer. So everything I say could be wrong and every state is different but generally I think there’s a five point test for claims of self defense: Avoidance, Innocence, Imminence, Proportionality, and Reasonableness.
Avoidance is moot because I think this is Virginia and I think they have a no-retreat provision. Innocence is just that you didn’t willingly engage in a fight that got out of control. So that applies. Imminence applies because it happened in the moment. I just don’t see how Proportionality applies here. I just don’t see how holding a cell phone is proportional to a shooting. Emotionally I get it that the YouTuber is a major jerkwad and may have deserved a comeuppance. But I don’t think the jury followed the law.
I’m not a lawyer. Everything I said there could be wrong
If the defendant has been carrying a less lethal self defense measure, such as a taser, mace, or a baton, and had used that to defend himself, would you see that as more proportional?
I kinda waver on reasonableness for cases like this but I generally think using a weapon against an unarmed aggressor is reasonable when there is a significant size disparity or a disability or something like that. In this case the "prankster" was significantly larger and had a group of friends with him so I don't think it's out of the question that the use of a gun for defense is reasonable in this situation.
I’m happy he didn’t die over this, but I’m also kind of happy he got a little fucked up over it.
I tend to think about these situations with small people as the initial victim. How far should a smaller person or woman let something go before they can defend themselves? If the person is way, way bigger, do you just have to let yourself get beat?
I honestly don’t know what the right answer is here. I don’t like that it seems like it’s easier to shoot someone because of a threatening feeling. This makes me think of Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman. People will say these are completely unrelated cases but both involved a shooting and a claim of self defense. Again I don’t know what the answer is.
I guess not according to Lemmy, lol. I don’t care if the youtuber was. the size of Shaq, you can’t just shoot someone for showing a phone in your face not even if he is following you.
He didn’t continue to back away. He didn’t run. Punching someone bigger is unwise, but not as unwise as trying to kill someone who arguably didn’t even commit a crime.
That would corroborate his lawyers saying that a conviction after a finding of a lack of malice is inconsistent.
Except the next paragraph says:
If any such act be done unlawfully, but not maliciously, the person so offending is guilty of a Class 6 felony;
But, if the shooting was in self-defense, was it unlawful? Maybe the guy was legally allowed to defend himself, but not legally allowed to shoot a gun inside a crowded food court. Like, the self-defense covers him for injuring another person, but it doesn’t cover the danger he posed to other people when he did it?
I noted this as well. No info about the second conviction.
Another poster said there was an appeal, I can’t find anything about it, by whom, or on what.
Also see no info about post verdict motions.
It sounded to me as though there may be inconsistent verdicts. I don’t know this aspect of criminal procedure to say what happens in this case. I think it’s a mistrial, and dude may be retried? Could be a directed verdict on the convicted charge.
B) all the news sites that popped up at the top of Google search are literally identical. Cool.
I was just skimming through them, so it took me about five articles to realize that they weren’t just sharing quotes but were actually exact copies. I felt like I was crazy for a minute. I have never seen this kind of thing with news articles, but makes me wonder how common it is.
Also, I was using DDG not Google so it is not just their problem.
Dude has a concealed carry license, hopefully it helps in this situation. It sucks that he’s been incarcerated since April over this. Fuck an exploitative YouTuber.
He is being rewarded by youtube and his subs for that behavior. Which is especially messed up given youtube demonitizes videos for saying shit and fuck but not the harassment and stalking this guy does.
Its a serious problem in our entire criminal justice system. Trump is the post child for the inequality. Charged with 91 felonies and walking around doing as he pleases. Meanwhile this poor guy has been locked up for months without a trial, and may get off with no jail time but he’s in jail anyway.
Not sure how. Concealed carry is you carry a concealed weapon. This dude pulled his out, banged it out in the food court on a YouTuber, that’s open carry. 😆
I don’t see which weapons charge he was convicted on, or who is appealing. Sounds like there may be inconsistent verdicts. I teresting to see how post verdict motions go.
This “prankster” is 6’5". I’m 6’3 and I apparently intimidate people by just existing. If I was going around assaulting people I would fully expect someone to act defensively.
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