The deep longing so many people have for their lost fathers is really heart breaking.
Like, fuck. He’s not your dad! Please stop trying to fill the hole in your heart with politicians and celebrities. Please go talk to a therapist about how your father abandoned you, or you lost him to right wing conspiracies, or how you miss him now that he’s dead. Don’t replace him with a guy you saw on TV! This isn’t good for you and you’re just going to get hurt.
I mean, saying someone feels like the dad you could’ve had doesn’t mean there’s anything pathologic going on. They’re just being wistful and pointing out that Walz is giving cool dad vibes.
I think you’re being a bit hyperbolic by suggesting these women have literally formed a parasocial father-daughter relationship with him in 3 weeks.
Calling it pathological might be going too far, but it’s heart breaking when someone talks at length about losing their father in the context of saying Walz reminds them of their dad. Whenever people elaborate it becomes clear there’s something wrong.
There’s a broken and sick society that’s producing all these people who are longing for their lost fathers and it’s just. Heartbreaking.
What’s unnatural is connecting their grieving process to a guy they see on TV and then wrapping this into their political choices.
You’ll notice this isn’t only happening among people voting for Harris. Among Trump voters, you know what they do? They slot Trump into that father figure role! People shouldn’t be making politicians into parental figures. Something is wrong.
I mean, can you really call it unnatural overall if people have a desire to connect to and with others - even if it’s not fully logical. Emotions can be far from logical.
In a natural process, someone might connect with an older man in the community as a father figure in their own life. A mentor or a local leader, perhaps.
Emotionally connecting to the TV is disrupting a natural and healthy process by inserting a father figure that they can never really connect with.
Again you’re putting logic in an equation where it may not exist. I’m also not disagreeing with you, but people tend to make connections where they don’t/shouldn’t exist.
I don’t think there is anything wrong about coming to your own conclusions from public figures about the ways in which your personal relationships have been impacted by said public figures. Yes we don’t know these people directly but they impact and shape our lives, sometimes without us even knowing it.
I think “connection” can be very subjective depending on who you’re talking to, and I think this conversation needs a lot more nuance than perhaps is being given to it. I think by not lending credence to how we form connections and bonds with these political figures through emotion, we are trying to act like that it doesn’t exist (or shouldn’t), which isn’t true. The article here seems more to be pointing out that liberal women have lost their fathers to far-right ideology, not so much that they are now attaching that lost relationship to Walz. It seems more as though Walz helped these women come to terms with this fact, or enlightened them to it.
Except every single one of these women is going to vote for the Harris/Walz ticket, so they’re not just learning from Walz but materially supporting his political career.
At least they’re not giving him money, but it’s not far off.
You are describing how the American political process works. So would you rather them not vote or support the candidate that aligns with their policies or values? I’m very unclear on what you’re positioning here.
They aren’t trying to fill the hole with someone else, they are just saying one person reminds them of how someone else used to be. They see how this one famous person acts and remember when their dad used to act that way. They aren’t turning the famous guy into a father figure, but they are mourning the loss of their actual father figure. You are way over-analyzing what is being said here.
I think it’s bad to see someone who you have never and will never meet as a father figure, and then to materially support them out of a misplaced para-social relationship.
You are either a troll or have serious reading comprehension issues. At no point did anyone, either us posters here or the woman in the story, say she saw him as a father figure. You are literally the only person saying father figure here. There’s a guy in my neighborhood who reminds me of my dad. I don’t see him as a father figure.
I have to conclude you are posting with an agenda and are trying to shift the focus away from a positive story. There’s no way you can be as stupid as you sound. I’ll be blocking you for clearly not trying to have an honest conversation.
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I haven’t spoken to my dad since the pandemic when he rode the anti vaxxer bandwagon. He was also deeply into Trump, Putin and all that 5G spreading COVID conspiracy shit. At the time my spouse worked in hospitality and we were on the edge of our seats every day wondering if some douchebag customer would give us COVID. Eventually that’s exactly what happened but of course that didn’t matter to dad. I’m so tired of this extremist right wing ideology being normalised as a type of conservative - doesn’t seem very family oriented to me when you beat your wife and alienate your traumatised adult kids.
My dad did this stuff too. My mom was going through chemo and he refused to take the smallest precautions like just wearing a mask. I don’t think I’d ever been angrier in my life. I’m appalled by this kind of behavior, but maybe try to talk to him. You or your siblings (if you have any) are probably the only people who can talk him down. Also, life is short and anything can happen. Losing your father on your current terms would suck.
Tried talking to my family. Only got more trauma. Am very happy when they die and I feel safe. Maybe some sort of compromise works for you but not everyone works the same.
Shit, I’m sorry about that. I understand that not everyone’s situation is the same. Sorry if my comment came off as offensive - I really wasn’t trying to be.
Thanks for that. Genuinely. I see sentiments like yours so often and I’m very happy for every person for whom this works but it’s so dangerous to tell it to randos on the internet with so much certainty when we don’t know their story and circumstances. I’m glad people slowly wake up to different people having different familys. Cheers
Because Likud in Israel is shitty, now Rabbis can't be trusted to tell what was said when one of their patrons was stabbed near the headquarters of Chabad? Your opinions are something else.
Times of Israel is reporting something a rebi said about some guy he allegedly knows that was attacked in NY...
Yeah gonna need a little more evidence. This article is classic trust me bro set up. Fake antisemitism is a pretty popular fake news genre especially since Oct 6.
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It’s crazy that your comment was the purported Republican platform for a long time, and they transmogrified into the fascist trash party that Orwell wrote about, that the Empire was in films, and that the Nazis were in real life. All because a bunch of US-based domestic terrorist fundies are running a theocratic “war” against freedom, democracy, and choice. How Orange DonOld the Weird, the rapist with 34 felonies is their figurehead makes even less sense.
My dad died to cancer four years ago. He was my hero. UNTIL he became a red hat wearing piece of shit. I was sad obviously, but it didn’t hurt nearly as bad as it would have if he was still my dad. I lost all the respect I ever had for him.
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