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dangblingus , in US sued over nearly 20-year-old federal terrorist list by Muslim rights group

The issue surrounding the mayor of Prospect Park, NJ is outrageous.

DLSchichtl , in A Batman researcher said 'gay' in a talk to schoolkids. When asked to censor himself, he quit

Loooots of JAQing off in this thread

Blamemeta , in US offers almost 500,000 Venezuelans legal status

Yay, lets encourage illegals! Fucking asshats.

spacecowboy ,

You live on stolen land.

Blamemeta ,

What happened to the native americans is a good reason to keep illegals out.

gregorum ,

Then give your land back to them and leave.

Blamemeta ,

The crimes of my ancestors are not my crimes. Thats some communist regime shit, but this is lemmy so I guess I shouldnt be surprised.

gregorum ,

It’s still stolen land you’re on. That hasn’t changed. If you’re going to use Native Americans as a cudgel to justify your racism and xenophobia, don’t do it on top of that stolen land, hypocrite.

Blamemeta ,

Well, okay. How about a compromise? The Lakota give the Black Hills back to the Cheyenne, and undo Crazy Horse first.

Sound like a plan?

Turns out the “Noble Savage” is a myth. Stop being so bigoted.

gregorum ,

Now you’re just deflecting with a whataboutism because you refuse to acknowledge your own hypocrisy.

TruTollTroll ,
@TruTollTroll@lemmy.world avatar

No, but you perpetuate their crimes by continuing to exist on the lands they committed those crimes on and while you are advocating for even more crimes against humanity to happen to others, simply for perceived boarders that you do not belong in, in the first place…

tallwookie ,

they arent native. humanity is native to Africa and nowhere else.

GBU_28 ,

All land is stolen, humans don’t belong on earth

spacecowboy ,

Why, are we space orcs?

Neon ,

somebody has to pack your groceries for you

Blamemeta ,

Thats classist

gregorum ,

So, you think packing groceries is beneath you.

That’s classist AND elitist.

Chetzemoka ,

"Do not oppress a foreigner; you yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners, because you were foreigners in Egypt.
—Exodus 23:9 (NIV)"

https://www.worldvision.org/refugees-news-stories/what-does-bible-say-about-refugees#:~:text=Foreigners%20or%20refugees%20are%20not%20to%20be%20oppressed.&text=Israelites%20were%20to%20call%20on,of%20them%20in%20any%20way.

I hope you don't call yourself a Christian.

Blamemeta ,

I don’t call myself a Christian.

Chetzemoka ,

Well, I guess at least you're just a bigot and not also a hypocrite.

anon_8675309 ,

What’s the issue?

gregorum ,

It makes the racist, bigoted, xenophobes angry.

Not really a problem, per se.

Blamemeta ,

Because theres limited resources and even NYC cant properly handle just 116k migrants. Theyre going to the feds for help. fox5ny.com/…/nyc-migrant-crisis-hochul-says-she-h…

gregorum ,

NYC specifically wants migrants to be able to work so they can support themselves. Yet you seem to think this is a bad idea.

Lol

Blamemeta ,

Its encouraging more illegals, when they cant handle the ones they have.

atzanteol ,

“people”. The word you’re looking for is “people” not “illegals”.

Blamemeta ,

Already, “people who illegally immigrated, are criminals, are entitled assholes, and should be deported”. But I repeat myself, and “illegals” gets the point across.

gregorum ,

But you don’t know that they immigrated illegally. All that you can say is that they’re undocumented immigrants. It’s your racist, xenophobia that assumes that they immigrated illegally.

atzanteol ,

I’m impressed you can call them “entitled assholes” without any sense of irony.

gregorum ,

The only problem is that these immigrants couldn’t work to support themselves. This solves that problem.

Your problem is that you’re a racist xenophobe. As I said, that’s your problem.

Blamemeta ,

Well yeah, by definition illegals can’t work legally.

And what race are illegals? I swear, for people who constantly claim racism, y’all don’t know what racism is.

gregorum ,

Undocumented persons can’t work legally. You’re the only one claiming that they’re illegal because of your racist and xenophobic attitudes. And that’s pretty rich for you to claim others are racist just for pointing out your racism and xenophobia.

Blamemeta ,

Im stating a fact that “undocumented persons” immigrated illegally and by definition, are illegals. I know its slang, but Im not typing out “illegal immigrants” everytime.

gregorum ,

Posing your assumptions, as fact, is pretty ridiculous on its face. You’re just trying to justify your racism and xenophobia by making things up and calling them facts.

The truth is you can’t possibly know each person‘s arrival story in this country. You’re just trying to make your racism and xenophobia sound justified which it’s not.

sucricdrawkcab ,
@sucricdrawkcab@lemmy.world avatar

Did you know Donald Trump pardoned the dude who ran the company of the biggest immigration bust in U.S history (for the time)? I’m mentioning it because if you like overnight delivery, fruit, meat, clean hotel rooms, the list goes on, I have some bad news for you. This eliminates an entire pool of people from another level of exploitation and abuse in the U.S. To put it bluntly , this is a good thing.

Blamemeta ,

And Im not Trump nor am I voting for Trump.

This is Bidens admin, not Trump.

sucricdrawkcab ,
@sucricdrawkcab@lemmy.world avatar

My point is the people screaming the loudest about illegal immigration directly profit from it and gas people against it. They literally roll in the money and donate it to the same folks on nightly news talking about the border crisis. If there already in the U.S working to generate wealth for other people, like the rest of us, why can’t they be made citizens to have the same rights as the rest of us?

Blamemeta ,

That doesn’t even make sense. Why would they advocate against something they profit from?

Do you even read what you write?

In NYC, 60k out of 113k are in the cities care. Those 60k arent exactly helping. fox5ny.com/…/nyc-migrant-crisis-hochul-says-she-h…

gregorum ,

Why would you advocate against something you could profit from?

Because you’re a racist and a xenophobe.

The whole reason that they’re in the cities care is because they can’t work. This solves that problem by allowing them to work. What part of that do you not get?

PS: and posting a link to a FOX news source only makes you look worse.

sucricdrawkcab ,
@sucricdrawkcab@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, it makes perfect sense. In the words of Juicy J “people do strange things for that change, yeah money will do”. Fear is powerful, they say what needs to be said to remain in power. Hell grandma Boebert is on stage yelling about being squeaky clean, but having the full service 15 year old theater experience in Beetlejuice. Then flat out lied about it despite being on tape.

If you have a full workforce of people that can’t strike, labor laws don’t apply, they can’t tell anyone about sexual assaults, injuries, do you think the politicians who are getting cash care? Do you think those kids getting busted working in factories were america kids or undocumented kids?

Blamemeta ,

So why are you arguing for more illegals?

VentraSqwal ,

They’re not. They’re arguing for making them legal, which then allows them to work and prevents the possible below the table abuse.

sucricdrawkcab ,
@sucricdrawkcab@lemmy.world avatar

I’m arguing for people not to be exploited.

Blamemeta ,

Then the solution is deportation, all this does is encourage more illegals hoping the dnc will legalize them, while being exploited in the meantime.

gregorum ,

Only if you’re racist and xenophobic. The clear solution to the problem they pose here is to enable them to work and support themselves, alleviating the strain on our systems and to contribute as taxpayers.

sucricdrawkcab ,
@sucricdrawkcab@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah basically

sucricdrawkcab ,
@sucricdrawkcab@lemmy.world avatar

This conversation is like taking a piss into really high winds.

Blamemeta ,

Ikr? I’m backing out, too much stupidity too early in the morning.

gregorum ,

[X] Doubt

TruTollTroll ,
@TruTollTroll@lemmy.world avatar

That he inherited from Trump… this is Trump’s mess and Biden is just cleaning up the shit, your party caused…

And, you most certainly are voting for trump… no way you are voting for the second had pics of the GOP runner ups… lmao… I find it even more hilarious, you had to make a throwaway account, just feel safe enough to be hateful here on Lemmy… very telling about who you are…

GBU_28 ,

What? The title indicates they are legals.

Blamemeta ,

To be offered legal status, they would have to be illegal first.

GBU_28 ,

False.

Consider: I fly to a country as an intended tourist.

I approach the customs official and say “I’d like to enter as a tourist”

They look at my paperwork, and approve my visa. I’m now legal. Prior to that I wasn’t illegal, I just wasn’t in yet

Blamemeta ,

Okay, sure, but they were already in the country.

gregorum ,

Which is exactly why they should be allowed to work so they can support themselves.

But you’re so racist and xenophobic that you can’t seem to comprehend that concept. All you can do is spew hate.

Just because someone is undocumented doesn’t make them illegal. This is just another example of how you use your assumptions to rationalize your racism and xenophobia.

Blamemeta ,

so racist and xenophobic

I know what you are, but what am I?

Just because someone is undocumented doesn’t make them illegal.

Literally the definition of undocumented immigrant is illegal immigrant. Its an euphemism, that only exists for propaganda purposes.

gregorum , (edited )

Childish arguments and redefining phrases just to rationalize your own racism and xenophobia clearly isn’t working here because we are not racist xenophobes who are gonna let you get away with that kind of shenanigans

Give it up.

Buelldozer ,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

These people aren’t “illegals” nor are they “undocumented”. They are Asylum Seekers which means that they’ve filled out paperwork and are awaiting a decision on their case. This program, TPS, doesn’t make them “legal”, as in grant them a Green Card or Citizenship, it just allows them to WORK legally while they are awaiting the outcome of their Asylum Case.

To put it in Conservative language; do you want these people to continue living off the State or would you prefer that they find a job and start paying taxes?

alienanimals ,

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    EdenRester OP ,
    @EdenRester@kbin.social avatar

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    Well that’s a happy little pile

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