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dingleberry , in Women are less likely to receive CPR in public than men: Study

52% versus 55%. 61% vs 68% in public places. Not a lot of difference, within margin of error even.

FauxPseudo ,
@FauxPseudo@lemmy.world avatar

This isn’t a pole. This isn’t self reported numbers. Those are real life numbers

ChewTiger ,

Pretty much all data has margins of error, including “real life data”. The margin of error just often doesn’t matter.

Default_Defect ,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

But is it a poll?

WoahWoah ,

It is still a sample, which is therefore subject to a margin of error. Unless you think this data accounts for all CPR given anywhere to anyone, ever.

For example, if they’d only sampled one man and one woman, and the man reported receiving CPR and the woman reported not, the “study” would show 100% of men and 0% of women receive CPR. Staggering “real-life numbers”!

DeadDjembe ,

All of science is just a sample. Population trends can be observed in smaller subsets.

WoahWoah ,

I’m aware. My point is that “real life numbers” still have margins of error. The person to whom I’m responding implied that “real life numbers” aren’t subject to a margin of error.

thepianistfroggollum ,

It doesn’t matter, a margin of error exists regardless of the data source.

Aceticon ,

To add to your point with a very clear example: If I did a study to check the average age of people in a country where I mainly checked the age of people living in retirement homes, the margin of error would be huge even if I got the age from hundreds of thousands of people.

In more general terms: there can be systemic errors due to methodology that no increasing of the number of samples will remove.

thepianistfroggollum ,

Thank you, that’s an important point to make. There’s this belief that big samples are more relevant than small samples, but that is far from the truth.

The methodology is what’s vital to the data’s significance.

snek_boi ,

What do you mean by “margin of error”?

June ,
ledtasso , (edited )

The sample size was in the tens of thousands (39K total cases according to the original EUSEM article) so I’d be surprised if there is no real difference.

thepianistfroggollum ,

Having a larger sample size doesn’t necessarily decrease the margin of error. It’s impossible to say if the difference is statistically significant without crunching the numbers.

BearOfaTime ,

Meh… Even without seeing the data collection methodology, or the analysis, I’m calling shenanigans. Thats an almost non-existent difference - how do we know the cases where women didn’t get support are primarily women-only spaces (say women’s gym, yoga, etc)?

Someone’s using this slight difference to push a narrative.

Ilovethebomb , in A 96-year-old federal judge is barred from hearing cases in a bitter fight over her mental fitness

America in general seems to have a massive problem with absolute geriatrics refusing to make way for the next generation. Their politicians, lawmakers, judges, all older than the hills.

Fisk400 ,

It’s because the system for choosing successors are bad and random. If she quits now her successor will be a Biden appointee and she doesn’t want that. If they set a retirement age and regularly had roundups where each party gets to choose judges based on number of seats they have things would be a lot more shill.

That is if republicans honestly engaged with the systems. We know they don’t which is why nothing will ever work.

Ilovethebomb ,

OK, that explains a lot actually. Do you think she’ll try and hold on another four years if Biden gets reelected?

Fisk400 ,

Lets see if she can hold on until the election. at 96 you shouldn’t bet on them being around for another month. she will try to hold on for as long as possible but the grim reaper generally dont care about your schedule.

BorgDrone ,

At 96 she shouldn’t buy any green bananas.

paultimate14 ,

She’s 96. She should have retired when Bush was president of that was her concern.

Tedesche ,

Mitt Romney just stepped down, citing that very reason. The U.K. has a freaking House of Lords and a Monarch that serves no purpose. Don’t throw stones.

ohlaph ,

We really do. The millennials need to step up. I’m finishing my degree and am considering a post bachelorette in political science or something similar to get into politics. It’s frustrating to see such an aged population making decisions they won’t have to live with.

SheeEttin ,

Baccalaureate?

ohlaph ,

Damn autocorrect… yea. I’m going to leave it because I deserve that.

OpenPassageways ,

Some of those people either can’t afford to retire or have actually returned to the workforce due to a combination of inflation, inadequate safety nets, and the fact that 401ks have not filled the gap created when companies stopped providing pensions.

FlyingSquid , in A Black student was suspended for his hairstyle. The school says it wasn’t discrimination
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Barbers Hill High School

The irony is stunning.

Ensign_Crab ,

The barbers have chosen their hill.

TheTurducken ,
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Thank you.

nobleshift , in Russell Brand Dropped by Agent After Rape and Sexual Assault Accusations
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  • EnderMB ,

    To be fair on the last one, Brand is married to Kirsty Gallacher’s sister. I’d be shocked if she didn’t know he was a wrong-un, and IIRC she had her own allegations a while back.

    MyUnclesSecret ,

    Well I didn’t know he was guilty till I heard that list of defenders

    QuentinCallaghan OP ,
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    Even at the risk of guilt by association, the people who come to defend tell a lot about a person.

    arc ,

    It’s like a cavalcade of awful people. People who spout hate and misinfo and have somehow accumulated an audience of followers.

    sndmn ,

    Does Ashton Kutcher still support him?

    zoostation , in McDonald's plans to transition away from self-serve soda fountains in US by 2032

    Bottom tier food. Bottom tier company. I don’t know why anyone eats this level of trash anymore. Inflation has hit fast food harder than other types of restaurants, or groceries. It doesn’t make sense justifying paying these prices for this when you can get better food for comparable prices now. There used to be an expectation that this food would at least be cheap.

    queermunist ,
    @queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

    This food was never cheap tbh

    The point was convenience - a hot and ready to eat meal that you can grab at any time and don’t have to prepare yourself.

    dan1101 ,

    It used to be cheap. It wasn’t that long ago there was a dollar menu. Now a cheeseburger is $2.79.

    queermunist ,
    @queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

    You could always make a cheaper burger yourself. Yeah a pack of buns and and pound of burger would cost more, but per burger it was always cheaper.

    bobman ,

    Time isn’t free.

    Saying it’s cheaper to do it yourself is almost always true with cooking. It doesn’t really make sense to bring up because you’re comparing apples to oranges.

    In reality, you just want to feel superior to people who eat fast food. Come on, admit it.

    Chickenstalker ,

    Dude. Learn Chinese cooking. Abandon your worthless Westoid foods that take 7 hours to cook. Adopt the Wok and Wok Hei will adopt you. Be one with the stir fry.

    bobman ,

    I’ve actually upgraded to mexican cooking.

    Just make a big bowl of taco stuff and shovel it onto a tortilla for a few days.

    Been thinking about getting into stirfries, too.

    SheeEttin ,

    Stir fry is great. One big pan of chicken, rice, and veggies, and you’re set for days. Toss some different sauces, cheese, or spices on there to change the flavors up.

    LinkOpensChest_wav ,
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    While I agree that this is a good way to cook affordable meals, it’s still a luxury so many people can’t afford. When I met my current husband, he was working two jobs in different parts of the city and renting a single room without a kitchen. Most of his free time was spent on the bus or train. I’ve known many such people, and fast food’s drastic increase in price has really hurt.

    bitsplease ,

    I really don’t think you could’ve back in the dollar menu days. A double cheese burger for less than $1? Unless you’re buying you’re ingredients in a pretty bulk size (which if you’re regularly eating off the dollar menu, you probably can’t afford to do), I doubt you could have gotten much better than that

    queermunist ,
    @queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

    You totally could, those patties were tiny af and a pound of beef went far enough for it to even out

    Potatos_are_not_friends ,

    They had a thing called the dollar menu for decades.

    During the 90s-2000s, they’d have hamburger Tuesdays where you can buy a hamburger for like $0.29 cents.

    They had ads where families would come with “a few bucks” and feed everyone.

    ares35 ,
    @ares35@kbin.social avatar

    during that time, you could get whopper or jumbo jack or big 'n tasty, etc. for 99c just about everywhere. 3 bucks was all it took to eat lunch...

    even less if you ordered the 'all american meal' at mcdonalds: small hamburger or cheeseburger, small fries, small drink. was only $1.79 or $1.89. wasn't always on the menu board, but i never encountered a store that didn't sell it even if it wasn't.

    its almost 12 bucks just to get a whopper 'meal' here now.

    NovaPrime ,
    @NovaPrime@lemmy.ml avatar

    BK around us has the 2 for $6 deal and I’ve found it very useful when we run late and can’t cook. Not dollar menu prices by any means, but most affordable option we’ve found among the fast food joints around us

    dudewitbow ,

    If using the app, BKs value is generally pretty good because they often have decent coupon deals reletively speaking compared to other fast food joints.

    Crismus ,

    I survived on one meal a day at McDonald’s when I was stuck doing day labor in Seattle around the 2002 crash.

    Back then it was actually cheap to get enough food to survive on for under 5 bucks. I remember the 20 cheeseburger and hamburger deals they had twice a week.

    The price increases to cheeseburgers really hurts, when that was usually my main dollar menu deal.

    alcamtar ,
    @alcamtar@lemmy.world avatar

    Well to be fair it’s not McDonald’s fault that the dollar is practically worthless now

    Bonehead ,

    The point was convenience

    And consistency. It may not be the best food in the world, but I can order anywhere between Miami to Miramichi, New York to Nanaimo, or LA to London, and get the exact same Big Mac and fries every single time.

    FARTYSHARTBLAST ,
    @FARTYSHARTBLAST@kbin.social avatar

    Except now it takes forever to get your food from a place like this and they refuse to let you order ahead, which is insane.

    tacosplease ,

    I used to get 3 double cheeseburgers and a large tea for $4.20 including tax. McDonald’s and Little Caesars were by far the cheapest meals I could buy unless you want to count ramen noodle packs. Groceries were way more expensive. Now both are expensive LOL.

    queermunist ,
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    You could get a pound of ground beef and a pack of burger buns and I think the one time I did the math it came out to 80 cents a burger.

    tacosplease , (edited )

    So $0.80 for a burger or $0.99 for a double cheeseburger. I’ll take the double.

    Besides that, if you only had $5 to spend you could not have bought the supplies to make a single burger for $5. Have to buy at least a pound of beef, a whole pack of buns, etc. Even in your example I’d argue fast food was cheaper.

    queermunist , (edited )
    @queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

    Well yeah, the last time I did the math was probably 2006 or something lol

    Though the prices I’m seeing currently are $7.94 for 2lbs, $2.88 for 8 buns, $2.48 for 24 cheese slices.

    $1.51 per 1/4lb cheese burger.

    tbh I have no idea how much this stuff costs without looking it up anymore, I just eat vegetables and beans now lol

    Alenalda ,

    Addiction

    tacosplease ,

    I went to Arby’s yesterday because it was cheaper than McDonald’s and Taco Bell. Was not disappointed. Arby’s still slaps IMO.

    TheMusicalFruit , in Suella Braverman pushes for ban of 'lethal danger' XL Bully dogs

    In the US, Pit Bulls caused 65% of dog bite deaths between 2005 and 2016.

    phoenixz ,

    Source?

    TheMusicalFruit ,
    Zak , (edited )
    @Zak@lemmy.world avatar

    This site is an advocacy group for breed specific legislation.

    Audbol ,

    And it’s all very well cited. Makes sense why an advocacy group exists for this

    Zak ,
    @Zak@lemmy.world avatar

    The National Rifle Association will offer a very well cited claim that strict gun laws increase violent crime. The Violence Policy Center will offer a very well cited claim that the opposite is true. Reality is likely more nuanced.

    The hole in dog breed bite statistics is usually accurate identification of the breed.

    Audbol ,

    Maybe I’m missing something, what does this advocacy group stand to benefit from banning pitbulls? The NRA is backed by weapons manufacturers. This seems to be people who actually see a problem and are taking actions to help protect people.

    Zak ,
    @Zak@lemmy.world avatar

    People often hold strong beliefs that are not related to personal gain nor particularly rational. I don’t think their intent is nefarious, but I think it’s likely mistaken.

    Audbol ,

    If research is determining otherwise then what would it take to convince you to accept this?

    Zak ,
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    For me to think breed specific legislation is a good idea, I’d probably need three things:

    1. Statistics about serious injuries to people supported by reliable breed identification. Asking a victim or police officer what breed of dog caused the injury is insufficient.
    2. At least some some supporting evidence that the breed is inherently more dangerous than other breeds of the same size instead of simply being popular with people who train their dogs to be aggressive.
    3. Legislation focused on breeding bans, neutering mandates, and a mix of fence/muzzle requirements and temperament testing rather than confiscation or euthanasia individual dogs that have not shown signs of aggression.
    JustZ ,
    @JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

    They are pushing arguments in favor of eugenics and genocide and have coopted dog-related injuries to push lies about history and genetic science.

    Just go on their site and wherever they mention pitbulls, replace it with “Jews” and you really start to get the flavor of their bullshit.

    phoenixz ,

    I’d like a good citation on that claim in your second paragraph. I’ve seen that claimed a lot yet I’ve seen nothing to support it.

    joel_feila ,
    @joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

    Not exactly. Studies on this are hard to accurately. In breif, people suck at id breeds, and mort studoes only ask the peraon what breed bit you

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=N7F4OfDSvPU&pp=ygUYcmVi…

    Audbol ,

    Thanks for telling me the same thing people have been parroting for an eternity. Check out Occam’s razor

    joel_feila ,
    @joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

    What wrong with the counter studies

    TheSambassador ,

    The problem is that an advisory group trying to push legislation is much more likely to cherry pick and misrepresent their citations.

    Audbol ,

    Okay but what is the motive for them to do this. You are claiming malice but you aren’t providing a motive for said malice

    JustZ ,
    @JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s not well cited because in over half of dog injuries the breed is unknown.

    Also, two thirds of dogs identified as pitbulls by veterinarian staff have zero pitbull DNA.

    big_onion ,

    About 15 years ago I volunteered with a pitbull rescue, then did a bunch of research on pitbull attacks in grad school. The problem then was that most statistics like this were unreliable once you saw what they labeled a pitbull. In most cases it was just any “mutt” was considered a pitbull. I don’t know if things have changed, never really looked into it since then, but I’m still a bit wary of stats like this without knowing their data is accurate.

    Beelzebubba ,

    My little dog doesn’t have an ounce of pitbull in her. Her mom was a border collie/lab mix, and the Father was the Neighbor’s boston terrier/english pointer mix. The only thing remotely pitbull like about her is her underbite. That said, I’ve lost count of the times somebody at the dog park, usually someone with a little ankle biter dog of the teacup persuasion, has gotten uppity about me having a “pitbull” off leash. People are dumb.

    Noodle07 ,

    People are dumb

    That about sums it up

    DarthBueller ,

    Every breed you listed besides lab are nippers but are not notorious maulers. Sorry your little nipper is getting lumped in with the murder muffins.

    Malek061 ,

    I remember when climate change deniers were not sure about the science either…

    sudo22 ,
    @sudo22@lemmy.world avatar

    Being skeptical of data and their sources is a fundamental part of science.

    stringere ,

    were?

    jasondj ,

    It doesn’t help that a lot of strays/rescues have a good chunk of pit bull blood in them.

    Both of my dogs are rescues from programs in the southern US. One of them certainly seems to have some pit in him…beautiful brindle coat, block head, incredibly strong jaw, stocky-muscular build. He’s dumb as a bag of rocks but incredibly loyal and affectionate. Because of the stigma around pits, though, I’m afraid to get him DNA tested.

    bobman ,

    In most cases it was just any “mutt” was considered a pitbull.

    Seems like an issue specific to wherever you went to school.

    Most rational people would immediately draw clear separations between mutts and pitbulls or pitbull mixes.

    I don’t think this comment is indicative of the problem at all.

    Curious where you went to school though, lol. Might want to get a refund for that degree.

    big_onion ,

    Most rational people would, but it was an indicator that people who report dog bites did not know the difference.

    And I’m not sure what my school had to do with it. At that time I was sourcing data from external sources, using data reported on police reports or by other organizations. Someone else commenting referenced the breed specific legislation advocacy group that was a source for some of that data.

    My comment might not have been clear, I was criticising the data I was finding.

    DarthBueller ,

    The studies I’ve seen that people cite to say “you can’t identify a breed by looking at it” usually are playing a semantic game - and what often is not emphasized is that the same research shows that when people identify a dog as a “pit bull,” that those people are quite accurate in identifying–by morphology alone–the presence of genetics from one of the several aggressive breeds people call “pit bulls.” And that the morphology is positively correlated with higher aggression.

    Ataraxia ,

    Actually it’s more likely a pitt is labeled incorrectly like a lab etc to get them adopted to people too ignorant to know better. So that’s gonna invalidate that statement.

    SheeEttin ,

    And it’s probably worse if you do rate by breed.

    But I suspect that it’s mostly due to a combination of breed and neglect/non-training. The kind of people who want a pit bull in particular, and the kind of people who just chain up their dog outside and never train or socialize it, probably have significant overlap.

    joel_feila ,
    @joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah that study probably relied on faulty data. Most dog bite data just the person what the breed was.

    Did tou know putbull is not 1 breed but 3 different ones.

    Most people cant reliably tell an american pitbul from other breeds in a line up.

    Crashumbc , (edited )

    Actually, “pitbulls” are now well over a dozen different breeds people just randomly consider “pitbulls”

    If it’s a stocky mutt with short hair . It’s a pitbull!

    DarthBueller ,

    Did you know that all of the breeds that are identified by the name “pit bull” rate high in aggression? And that the same studies that pitbull afficianados cite for “you can’t tell a breed by appearance” also support the idea that when people call a dog a “pit bull” based on morphology alone, that the dog stands a very high chance of having decended from one of the several breeds identified as a pit bull?

    joel_feila ,
    @joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

    Not in the study i reaf. They lined pure American pitbull and some pitbull mutts and dogs with no pitbull. They only to reliably guees who was the pitbull, even counting the mutt as pb, was if the dog was showing teeth.

    JustZ ,
    @JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

    Wrong. You’re misrepresenting the stats. You’re leaving out the fact that in over half of all dog bites the breed is unknown.

    Also, in studies where vet personnel are asked to visually identify the breed of dog, they are wrong two out of three times. So if vet personnel can’t even do it, dog bite victims, police reports, and hospital reports, from where these statistics on dog bites are obtained, are definitely not getting right.

    The truth is that we have absolutely zero legitimate idea what dogs are causing injuries. Even if the numbers on pitbulls were accurate, the breed is unreported in more than half of cases, which statistically speaking means there could be another breed of dog that you’ve never even heard of that’s responsible for more than half of all bites.

    The other issue for me is the inherent racism by those who advocate for these policies. In every conversation, it eventually devolves to the proponent of breed bans doing one of two things: admitting that they are targeting certain types of people, not breeds, and arguments that rely on false assertions of history, genetic and behavioral science, that are identical to those put forth by eugenicists. The easy example is the false assertions that pitbulls were “bred for fighting.”

    They were bred for hunting and loyalty to their families and children. The guy to originally bred them wrote several books which you can read on Google Books and discusses at length their loyalty to people and kids as a primary characteristics, moreso than any violence. It was their strength and determination that made them useful for hunting, not aggression.

    They were used only for dog fighting decades after the big game hunting they were bred to do was banned, and even then, dogs that showed aggression to humans were banned from the “sport” if not outright euthanized.

    DarthBueller ,

    The studies that you would cite to support your “you can’t tell a breed by its look” also tend to show that people are quite accurate at identifying that one of the many breeds that are called pit bulls are present in a particular dog. in other words, they can’t accurately say “this is a pure bred Staffordshire Terrier” but they can say, “this is a pit bull” and they’re correct, unless you’re playing stupid semantic games.

    JustZ ,
    @JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t see where the study says that.

    www.sciencedirect.com/…/S109002331500310X

    DarthBueller ,

    That study seems to state a conclusion precisely the opposite of what the experimental results were. Based on a small sample set, there’s a high degree of match, far more accurate than random chance, between the observations and the genetic findings.

    JustZ ,
    @JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

    And yet still wrong two thirds of the time.

    Pipoca ,

    Of the 25 dogs identified as pit bull-type dogs by breed signature, 12 were identified by shelter staff as pit bull-type dogs at the time of admission to the shelter (prior to the study visit), including five labeled American Staffordshire terrier mix, four pit bull mix, two pit bull, and one American Staffordshire terrier. During the study, 20/25 dogs were identified by at least one of the four staff assessors as pit bull-type dogs, and five were not identified as pit bull-type dogs by any of the assessors. …

    Of the 95 dogs (79%) that lacked breed signatures for pit bull heritage breeds, six (6%) were identified by shelter staff as pit bull-type dogs at the time of shelter admission, and 36 (38%) were identified as pit bull-type dogs by at least one shelter staff assessor at the time of the study visit

    So, at intake, 18 dogs were identified as pit bulls but only 2/3rds were at least 12% pit bull.

    During the study, 56 dogs were identified as being pit bulls, but only about 1/3rd were in fact at least 12% pit bull.

    This is the classic ‘base rate fallacy’. The false positive rate isn’t that high, and the false negative rate isn’t that high either. But because the true positive rate is pretty low, the ratio of true positives to false positives is much worse than you’d intuitively think.

    Tests for rare diseases and attempts to behaviorally profile terrorists at airports runs into the same problem. Sometimes, a 99.9% accurate test just moves you from searching for a needle on a farm to a needle in only a single haystack.

    mojo , in Oklahoma State Dept. of Education announces partnership with PragerU

    Jesus fucking Christ. They spew objectively wrong nonsense in an attempt to brainwash vulnerable people.

    Reminder that PragerU made a video defending slavery.

    Maeve ,

    Their adverts on YouTube are equally vile.

    Venomnik0 , in 'WE ARE EVERYWHERE' Videos Show Angry Neo-Nazis Cursing and Screaming Slurs During March in Florida

    According to FL, this is a-ok for children to see and quite preferable over trans people.

    Eggyhead , in Bodycam: Pregnant woman accused of shoplifting shot by police
    @Eggyhead@artemis.camp avatar

    I mean, could he not just have taken the license plate number then sent agents to go knock on her door later? This is shoplifting, not armed robbery.

    Ilovethebomb ,

    She drove forward with the officer directly in front of the vehicle. Regardless of what happened previously, thats an action that could kill someone.

    SendMePhotos ,

    Flooring it at someone, yes. Slowly moving forward and turning away, not so much.

    Ilovethebomb ,

    You can definitely kill someone by slowly driving over them

    jimbo ,

    So maybe cops should be smart and not jump in front of/on top of moving cars. But then again, we already know they aren’t hired for being smart.

    Ilovethebomb ,

    That is a valid point.

    Anonymousllama , (edited )

    Yeah probably not the best to drive at police. Amazed that even needs to be said and isn’t obvious to most people

    Ilovethebomb ,

    Man, there’s some cooked people in here.

    You could murder an officer in cold blood and they’d find a way to justify it.

    jimbo ,

    You say that in a thread about a woman murdered by an officer in cold blood. Wow.

    Ilovethebomb ,

    Having someone trying to run you over isn’t “in cold blood”

    Good grief.

    dragonflyteaparty ,

    Except that guy isn’t dead. The woman is. The cop has plenty of opportunities to do a really big part of his job, de-escalate, rather than do the opposite, position himself in front of her vehicle and immediately point a gun at her. He went right for the death threat and almost immediately delivered.

    TDCN ,
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    Isn’t it kinda stupid of the police officer to put himself in that dangerous position. He could just as well have let her go and find her later or follow her. Trying to stop a car by standing in front of it is imo. just stupid and unprofessional.

    Ilovethebomb ,

    Standing in front of the car wasn’t a smart thing to do, I agree with you there. “Let her go and find her later” isn’t really how it works though.

    Un4 ,

    This exactly how it works in normal countries. She was not robing a bank she was just shop lifting. You get the license plates and invite her to court some time later.

    Ilovethebomb ,

    Nah, you don’t get to just drive away from the police anywhere, sorry. Most would use less lethal means to stop her, but I don’t think any competent force would just let her leave.

    Globulart ,

    Nor would any competent force give an ultimatum of “stop or die” over a trivial crime. Most countries would get in their car and try to follow safely, if that wasn’t possible you run the plates and send a summons. A hand should never be near a gun in this situation.

    There’s no defending this.

    Ilovethebomb ,

    I’m not defending this so much as pointing out the absolute nonsense some people in this thread are spewing.

    Apollo ,

    Take a look in the mirror mate, you’re no font of sense yourself.

    straycat ,

    You need to check yourself.

    Bard ,

    Can’t speak for anywhere else, but can speak for personal experience, here in Italy “take the license plate” or “get in the police car and follow her” would be our procedure. She has not pulled out a weapon, and law enforcement is not supposed to escalate anything, ever. (Exceptions might apply, poorly trained officers exists). Even if she pulled a gun, probably we’d just try to evacuate everyone in the area and call for reinforcements before thinking of pulling out our firearms.

    On average we get 5 police deaths in a year out of about 300-350 thousands agents, so I guess it works well enough.

    (and yes, I do realize that in US there’s a lot of armed and trigger happy civilians, but that’s just another issue to solve. If a civilian needs a gun for self protection , there’s something really really wrong with society in my opinion)

    Jerb322 ,
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    They stop high-speed chases all the time because it’s getting too dangerous. And some of them have done way worse than shoplifting…

    SCB ,

    That is literally the standard procedure for dealing with shoplifters.

    And also this woman wasn’t the shoplifter.

    Comment105 ,

    US cops are the kind to pull out a guy’s multitool, fold out the knife, put it in the guy’s hand, grab their hand and hold it at their own throat.

    Then waiting for them to twitch, so they can shoot them dead.

    dragonflyteaparty ,

    The cop deliberately walked in front of her car and pointed a gun at her. She panicked. I’d probably panic too if someone pointed a gun at me. Granted, I probably wouldn’t have drove forward, but it was entirely possible for the cop to not have walked in front of her car, for him not to have pulled a gun. It seems like him pulling the gun is what caused this.

    30mag ,

    could he not just have taken the license plate number then sent agents to go knock on her door later?

    No. She was driving a car without license plates, which is unusual.

    Young got into a four-door Lexus sedan that did not have a license plate and was illegally parked in a handicapped spot, Belford said.

    www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/…/70680484007/

    However, I do not believe that fact justifies shooting her.

    na_th_an ,

    Driving a car without plates is extremely common in this area. It has been ever since they suspended registration requirements during Covid. I see multiple cars without plates every time I go for a drive.

    krolden ,
    @krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

    Oh I dont have my plates I’ll just tape up this piece of paper in my rear window and no one will care

    Sarmyth ,

    That’s not how plates are obtained. It has nothing to do with it. When buying a car from a dealership new, they submit all the paperwork, and your plates are sent to you within a month. If it’s used, it should already have a plate, but you can still get one from the DMV through online services in almost every state.

    Not having a plate is usually someone avoiding tolls or red light cameras or some other petty crime thing. And to play devils advocate, I suppose it could have been stolen, too.

    na_th_an ,

    This area doesn’t have tolls or red light cameras.

    Dealers don’t submit paperwork for you to get plates unless you pay extra for the service. Otherwise you get a 45 day temporary tag.

    If you buy used in a private sale, then you get nothing. You have to go buy plates. There is no transfer of plates between private parties in Ohio when doing a private sale.

    30mag ,

    I didn’t know that there was any place in the United States that did not require license plates. There were/are a lot of people asking why the cops didn’t just get the number off her license plates and arrest her later. The simplest answer to that is that the car didn’t have plates on it, but I don’t think that fact played any role in the decisions made by the involved parties. Though, I could be wrong about that.

    Wakmrow ,

    Was there any evidence that the car didn’t have plates

    30mag ,

    I don’t think the plates would have been in the video frame at any point if they had been on the car. I don’t know if there are any pictures of the scene or not.

    Astroturfed , in What Just Happened at West Virginia University Should Worry All of Us

    This is what happens when you treat education like a business instead of a public service.

    jeffw OP ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    Not unlike USPS

    Nacktmull , in Shop owner shot, killed over rainbow flag outside clothing store near Lake Arrowhead

    Maybe it wasn’t a particularly good idea to make firearms so easily available to everyone and especially to (neo)Nazis?

    telllos ,

    The need for the 2nd amendment is fundamental if you want the people, able to form a tyranny… oh wait…

    GladiusB ,
    @GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

    The problem is they don’t see the hypocrisy. They think tyranny only applies to the government.

    aidan ,

    Generally yeah most tyranny definitions refer to government. It’s hard to exert tyrannical rule without being a de facto government.

    Isthisreddit ,

    Turns out they have always been pro tyranny as long it’s their guy hurting the “correct” people…

    Nacktmull ,

    You couldn’t be more wrong Telllos. If I didn’t have this gun, the King of England could just walk in here any time he wants and start shoving you around. Do you want that? (Pokes Telllos) Huh? (Shoves Telllos) Do ya!?

    ph00p ,

    You can just print that shit now.

    Imagine if these crazy fucks didn’t already have guns and they just discovered printable ones, I think that would have been a worse outcome.

    Margrave ,

    Please elaborate as to how that would be worse. At least half these nutters wouldn’t be able to figure out how to use a printer, let alone a 3d printer.

    Intralexical ,

    This thread has, predictably, devolved into a hugely disrespectful exchange given the linked post.

    But as an aside, I shudder to think of trying to design an additively manufactured part that would reliably contain a propellant blast using anything less than an industrial $100k-$1m DMLS or at least really really good SLS machine. If the goal is to harm somebody using a 3D printer, you’d probably be better off bashing them over the head with it.

    aidan ,

    Full plastic guns generally don’t last very long- but they have been proven to somewhat work since 2013. Now there are more stable designs that use off-the-shelf plumbing parts with plastic components. There are also designs that can be CNC’d with a cheap machine

    NikkiDimes ,

    Yeah, it’d be so terrible having crazy fucks blowing their own hands off /s

    Tenthrow ,
    @Tenthrow@lemmy.world avatar

    Why does everyone thing 3D printing is magic? You’re not going to be 3D printing weapons that can kill scores of poeple. Any firearm printed on an FDM printer is lucky to fire once without injuring the dipshit wielder.

    N0_Varak ,

    This comment betrays a lack of understanding around 3d printed firearms.

    Of course there are your (nearly) fully plastic single shots like the Harlot that fire small calibers and dont always last long.

    On the other hand, there’s plastic lowers (the only part considered a firearm and thus the onlynpart that needs to be bought through an FFL) for AR15s that use off the shelf plumbing supplies for the pressure bearing components.

    The files are readily available and able to be printed on low end FDM printers with little adjustment and troubleshooting completely bypassing the need to purchase a firearm from a dealer.

    jenniebuckley , in Idaho’s Teacher of the Year flees state after being attacked for LGBTQ+ allyship
    @jenniebuckley@lemmy.world avatar

    “leftists are the ones cancelling people” say the Republicans who drove a teacher out of her state for supporting queer people

    JoMiran , in New Covid vaccines are on the way as 'Eris' variant rises
    @JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

    At this point I’m treating COVID like the flu. Every September I’ll get shot combo for both and go about my business.

    TwoFace211 ,

    Me too (I don’t care about flu)

    kobra , (edited )

    Normally I’d agree, but these COVID vaccines put me down for 24-48 hours and the flu shot has never done that. Its very weird and difficult to schedule myself 48 hours of ‘sick time’ for a vaccine recovery.

    Edit: I’d like to clarify that I’ve always gotten them when available, so I’m 3x boosted or whatever, I just wish they had options for people that react like this.

    JoeBigelow ,
    @JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca avatar

    You’ve had a flu shot every year and never had any side effects?

    kobra ,

    Nope, I’ve never had anything more severe than some malaise for a couple hours that evening. With the moderna shots I’m usually down for 36 hours and on the mend for another 8. the 2nd booster that happened in quick succession gave me a 102 degree fever before i started taking tylenol for it but i consistently run 99-100 even with tylenol dosing.

    JoMiran ,
    @JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

    I have the same mild reaction to COVID and flu vaccines. I feel shit for about eight hours. The only COVID shot that put me down was the second of the two moderna shots. That hit hard. None of the boosters have hit hard.

    reallynotnick , (edited )

    Yeah that was the same for me, the second one in quick succession hit me, but the following ones that were months (year?) apart didn’t really affect me thankfully. Just an incredibly sore arm for a couple days, but that’s standard for me and shots.

    whatisallthis ,

    Yeah same. The flu shot usually makes me feel a little bad for a morning. The Covid vaccine makes me feel flat out sick for 24 hours.

    I just had a doctors appointment on Friday where they offered me the newest booster and I had to say no because I had full days of work the next 3 days.

    scrubbles ,
    @scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

    Yeah better to plan it out. My wife and I take it on Friday and then we take the Saturday to just be lazy, usually it’s conveniently timed to rewatch Star wars

    billwashere ,

    Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. I guess it’s because any negativity to the vaccine.

    The same thing happened to my wife. It was much less the for the boosters so it will likely get better in the future. I never even really felt bad. A little bit of a headache the first time but I’m not even sure that was related honestly. And I’ve gotten a little bit of a drained-feeling with the flu vaccine.

    RaoulDook ,

    Each one of the shots made me feel worse than the last (multiple side effects) so I stopped at 3. The one time I got sick with covid was a lot worse than the shots mainly because it lasted for about 10 days, but the intensity was similar to the shots’ side effects. It was after my 3 shots were all completed. Now I’m fine fortunately but I don’t want any more covid shots.

    I never actually got sick with covid until I stopped wearing a mask. N95 masks work well against covid and pretty much everything else. If you don’t want to get sick, get some N95 masks and use them wherever it’s crowded.

    kobra ,

    yeah in hindsight i probably should have elaborated more on the perspective of yearning for the dosing or something to get better for people that have severe reactions.

    enki ,

    Feeling sick for a day or two after the vaccine is a small price to pay to avoid long COVID. Some people never recover, see Physics Girl on YT.

    Graphine ,

    Can confirm. Had COVID twice since 2020 and it absolutely fucking sucks. Never felt anything like it.

    kobra ,

    I don’t disagree at all, I should have elaborated in my original comment but I guess I was more yearning for better suited vaccines for people that get hit hard by them. Maybe we could take a smaller dose or different cocktail?

    enki ,

    Which one did you take? A lot of people I know who took Moderna got hit hard, but only one person I know who took the Pfizer did. My family all took Pfizer and didn’t have any symptoms besides the usual soreness at the injection site.

    kobra ,

    thus far mine have all been moderna, ha

    froghorse ,

    If you buy that then I have a magic bell that I’d like to sell you. It keeps vampires away. Guaranteed.

    ahal ,

    Post viral syndromes are phenomena that have been well documented long before COVID. You can find any number of scientific papers on the matter if you only cared to look.

    scrubbles ,
    @scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

    I had it for three weeks and that was long enough, and for a couple of weeks after still I couldn’t enjoy coffee or chocolate or anything with floral flavors. Definitely sucked hard, I can’t imagine having it longer

    TheGiantKorean ,
    @TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world avatar

    COVID took me out for over a week last time. I’m good with 24-48hr if it means I won’t be as sick the next time I catch it.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    I feel like I shouldn’t complain as much after reading this.

    Kage520 ,

    Last booster with moderna was a half dose. If you had Pfizer it was a full dose. Not sure what the next ones will be but make sure you check and see if there is a half dose option.

    nix ,
    @nix@merv.news avatar

    Vaccines don’t protect you from Long Covid. Only masks and leaving the air with CR boxes and ventilation do (avoiding infection)

    AeroLemming ,

    Source?

    cjthomp ,

    His ass.

    Ibex ,
    @Ibex@lemmy.world avatar

    I had Covid and other than taking away my taste for a while it didn’t really do much to me. The vaccine is what knocked me out. I had an allergic reaction to it and got a 103°F temp, body aches, and severe flu like symptoms so badly that I had to go to the ER.

    SquishyPandaDev , in Massachusetts couple denied foster care application over LGBTQ views, complaint says
    @SquishyPandaDev@yiffit.net avatar

    Holy shit. The foster system standing up for kids. Now there’s something that sadly doesn’t happen very often. I hope this couple get what they deserve

    Prewash_Required ,

    In this case that being no foster kids

    TheBenCommandments ,
    @TheBenCommandments@infosec.pub avatar

    Which is zero children to indoctrinate by way of fear and hate.

    whofearsthenight ,

    You know, I didn’t even think of this. I initially just thought “good, they might get a queer kid they’ll abuse/neglect and thus shouldn’t have them” but the whole limiting of the expansion of more shitbirds sure is a nice bonus.

    canthidium , in Dog abandoned at Pittsburgh airport after owner learns it needs crate to fly
    @canthidium@lemmy.world avatar

    I couldn’t imagine just leaving my dog there because I didn’t have a crate. If my dogs are with me, and they can’t fly, then I can’t fly. Pisses me off how some people treat animals. My dogs are my whole world. If you do something like this you should be blacklisted from every owning a dog again.

    AttackBunny ,

    Yes, I’m in 100% agreement, I wish we could treat people how they treat animals.

    That aside, the article says it’s a license French bulldog. Those fuckers are EXPENSIVE. I can’t imagine just ditching thousand of dollars like that (morality of it aside).

    canthidium ,
    @canthidium@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh no, I missed that part. Jeez, someone has more money than they know what to do with. Money makes some people so shitty. Not that they weren’t before, but seems like it really brings it out of some people.

    ThisIsNotHim ,
    @ThisIsNotHim@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Also, if you’ve got that kind of money surely you can find someone to bring a crate or take the dog elsewhere.

    Enkers ,

    Yes, I’m in 100% agreement, I wish we could treat people how they treat animals.

    Based. Stick cattle farmers in feedlots when they’re 4 and slaughter them at 8. Macerate all the male chicken farmers.

    aeternum , (edited )

    eh, dairy cows are slaughtered at 4-6, and they're the oldest animals to be slaughtered. Most animals are MONTHS or WEEKS old. not years.

    Also, male chicks are macerated (mashed up alive) at just one to two hours old, because they're "useless". THey won't ever lay eggs, and they won't grow big enough to be worth it for meat chickens, so they're mashed up alive at a few hours. This is what you support when you support animal ag.

    Name021 ,

    I support animal agriculture and I love eating chicken nuggets.

    Enkers ,

    Yeup. IIRC, cattle are generally killed for their flesh from 1-2 years old, or about 5-10% of their natural lifespan. I was just saying 4-8 years for humans to be a more relatable comparison.

    kiithwarrior ,

    Yep 100%

    amnesiacrobat ,
    @amnesiacrobat@lemmy.world avatar

    I live in a college town. Several of our dogs came from the shelter, one of them was found in an empty apartment. Her owner moved and just left her, probably assumed someone would take her to the shelter.

    It’s apparently pretty common around here. Luckily someone found her, but some of these apartments don’t immediately have a new tenant and the dog dies.

    I just can’t imagine doing this. Our dogs are part of the family.

    partial_accumen ,

    one of them was found in an empty apartment. Her owner moved and just left her,

    So a warrant for animal abuse was issued for her arrest, yes? If she was a college student she may be gone for years, but it would be great if she were to be arrested when she returns for her 10 year reunion.

    amnesiacrobat ,
    @amnesiacrobat@lemmy.world avatar

    I can’t comment since I didn’t find her, only got her from the shelter, but I sure hope so. She’s an amazingly sweet dog too so that just breaks my heart even more for her. At least she’s in good hands now.

    aeternum ,

    You should see how they treat animals in animal agriculture!

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