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citrusface , in Trump congratulates Putin on ‘great’ hostage swap

Weird to be cozying up with a communist pig who started an unprovoked war that killed so many or his own countrymen for no fucking reason other than perceived power.

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Putin is a lot of things but he’s not a communist despite wanting a return to the USSR’s heyday

citrusface ,

Fair fair fair. How about pig fucker.

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Won’t fight you there

Tja ,

The pig might

Cadeillac ,
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

Allegedly

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

No, that was David Cameron.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piggate

citrusface ,

Oh cool, we currently have a couch fucker

Honytawk ,

Now we just need a ratfucker and a motherfucker.

Then we have all the fuckermentals

cybervseas ,

I’d call him an imperialist/czarist rather than a communist.

AmidFuror ,

No True Scotsman Communist would have been a Lt. Colonel in the KGB.

kryptonianCodeMonkey , (edited ) in Trump congratulates Putin on ‘great’ hostage swap

How could anyone ever think that Trump was a stooge for Putin? What a baseless witch hunt that investigation was. /s

Carvex , in 4 teens agree to plead guilty in fatal 2023 beating of Las Vegas high schooler

If they’re going to be innocent legally within 3 years, they should receive a little punishment they can’t take off.

PugJesus , in Why Olympic darling Armand Duplantis chose Sweden over United States

I think it’s wonderful that he chose to compete under Sweden’s colors, speaking as an American. The crossing of borders in the name of sportsmanship is the whole point of the Olympics, no? A dual-citizen choosing which country to compete under shouldn’t be seen as a slight to the one not chosen. We should celebrate it.

Pacattack57 , in 4 teens agree to plead guilty in fatal 2023 beating of Las Vegas high schooler

According to the boys father he was killed for defending his friend who was being bullied. The brawl involved a stolen pair of headphones and vape pen.

Jfc my gut tells me to ask wtf is wrong with kids these days but I know this kind of thing has been going on for generations.

My teacher in middle school had a friend in the 80s that was killed trying to break up a fight at a party.

MeatPilot ,
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To that point people covered things up more “back in the day”

Group of athletes murder someone at school for being gay? Can’t have the local sports team lose the season, let’s just sweep that under the rug and say a drifter did it!

I’d say only thing that changed is it’s harder to hide or excuse these situations.

stoly ,

Humans have killed each other since before humans evolved.

Pacattack57 ,

The difference is we live in a society

stoly ,

The only thing “society” does is decide who is allowed to do the killing. Government instead of individual.

some_guy , in Elon Musk’s X Is Leaving San Francisco

Yaccarino

There’s a name I’d forgotten. Let’s go back to that.

Burn_The_Right , in U.S. official: Biden realized Netanyahu lied to him about hostage deal

We should back away from Israel. We have absolutely no legitimate business with them and they bring nothing to the table.

Israel offers no unique military logistics, as we already have full access to the region via neighboring installations. They offer no substantial business to the U.S. They bring only strained relations with neighboring countries, with whom we have much more lucrative business ties.

It’s time to back away from this toxic, one-sided relationship. It’s time for Israel to be diplomatic with their neighbors instead of starting wars they want the U.S. to win for them.

ShaggySnacks ,

They offer no substantial business to the U.S.

Israel does offer substantial business to the US and that is surveillance technology.

From Surveillance Policies, Practices and Technologies in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories: Assessing the Security State

A discussion of surveillance within Israel would be incomplete without a confrontation with political economy and the development of security technologies. Neve Gordon (2009) argues that the ‘Israeli experience’, in its various manifestations, has played a pivotal role in the formation of Israel’s homeland security industry and its subsequent transformation into a global success story. The innovations in security and military technologies developed in Israeli laboratories have also facilitated the increased ‘virtual occupation’ of Gaza since the ‘Disengagement Plan’ (Sperotto 2010). Israel’s ‘separation barrier’, widely cited as a violation of Palestinian human rights, is premised on an array of sniper towers, electric fences, trenches, cameras, sensors, patrol roads, ditches, and military patrols (International Court of Justice 2004; B’Tselem 2006; International Federation for Human Rights 2004) – a blend of technological devises and various surveillance techniques developed in Israel.

What these political-economic perspectives on surveillance offer is a ‘made in Israel’ approach to the development of security strategies and methodologies, as well as the construction of a surveillance apparatus that is deployed in Israel, the OPT, and abroad by purchasers of this know-how. The IDF’s recent upgrades to the Gaza fence is noteworthy, considering the interface between the military through the newly-upgraded Combat Collection Corps, the network of intelligence agents working within Gaza, surveillance technologies, and national security policies determined to enforce iron clad borders (Katz 2010). This provides a testing ground of sorts for military strategy, technology, and border policies that could effectively be adapted for use outside of Israel. In 2006, Elbit Systems was awarded a contract, along with Boeing, to build the security wall on the U.S.-Mexican border (World War 4 Report 2006). Because of the international public acclaim that accompanies Israel’s defence industry, Israeli-based firms, as well as foreign companies that contribute to the country’s security apparatus, such as Motorola, Elbit, Boeing and others, have become targets of the transnational boycott, divestment, and sanctions (BDS) campaign (Macdonald 2010; New York Campaign for the Boycott of Israel n.d.; The Council on Ethics 2009; Cattatori 2009; Campaign Against U.S. Terror Weapons n.d.), which constitute the central internationalist non-violent movement against Israel’s illegal military occupation of Palestinian territory and continuous defiance of international law (see Bakan and Abu-Laban 2009).

Israel tests it’s surveillance technology on Palestine, then exports that technology to other countries.

Default_Defect ,
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But if something were to happen to Israel, the death cult can’t continue to try to kickstart the rapture so we can go to the mcdonald’s playplace in the sky.

ceenote , in Project 2025 is an unmitigated polling disaster for Trump and Republicans

This is why they’re weird. They were bragging about Project 2025 a few months ago, because since everyone in their little far right bubbles wanted authoritarianism, they assumed normal people did.

DmMacniel , in Why Olympic darling Armand Duplantis chose Sweden over United States
@DmMacniel@feddit.org avatar

Some Americans

surely its not the author or the paper the author writes for, right?

grte , in Kamala Harris picks Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz as her running mate

Not Shapiro? Netanyahu must be feeling pretty nervous this morning.

FollyDolly , in Hurricane Debby blows cocaine worth over $1 million onto beach in Florida Keys, U.S. Border Patrol says
@FollyDolly@lemmy.world avatar

Dammit now even the hurricanes are doing cocaine! Move over Cocaine Bear because now we have Cocaine Hurricane.

nifty , in Mixed-race voters say Donald Trump’s attacks on Kamala Harris’ race are painfully familiar
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To the mixed race or non-white people in this thread, just start asking white people where they’re from. Heck, if someone asks you where you’re from, it’s only polite to return the curiosity

Edit: if they say US born and raised, then ask but where are your ancestors from?

numberfour002 ,

Out of curiosity, can you explain what effect you believe this might have?

I am glad to be wrong, but I feel like most white people in the USA wouldn’t be offended or even find that to be a strange question. They’ll just answer it as best they can: Florida, Sacramento, born in Boise but raised in Fairfield. Or if you press about ancestry, most white folks will gladly say French-German, Irish, etc and then maybe even ask you the same thing because they’re genuinely curious and because it’s a natural way for an otherwise polite, as you put it, conversation to steer once the topic has come up. Probably most wouldn’t even recognize if another person were asking that question specifically to make a point about racism/prejudice/etc.

I really doubt that many white people have had these types of questions weaponized against them so unless they are made aware of how offensive it can be or how it betrays their own biases/prejudices (which we all have by the way), they may not even know. I would think that explaining how those questions impact you negatively in a supportive and understanding way will get you much further with most people than being retaliatory or intentionally inflammatory.

captainlezbian ,

Yeah if you want to make it sting you need to add an “oh” or some form of judgement to the answer. White American culture is proud of our history as immigrants, it’s just also racist and anti current or recent immigrants.

whoisearth ,
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I think this is a uniquely American experience tbh. In Canada people have no problem being asked their background and I’m sure the same could be said in other countries.

To your point, race in America has been intentionally weaponized.

Adderbox76 ,

One of my professors said something that always stuck with me.

Canada is a mosaic. America is a meting pot.

(Yes I know he didn’t coin the phrase). But he was the first who sort of explained it in a way that I truly understood.

In a multicultural America, you’re American first, ethnicity second. The impetus is to conform with the dominant culture and pretty much just keep your ethnic culture in your own home and own small communities.

Here in Canada, we are a mosaic. Every culture contributes the best (and worst) parts of their culture/heritage to the whole. There is no “Canadian” default culture. Its just a blend of everyone who comes to live here. **

**offer not valid in Saskatchewan, Alberta and Manitoba.

whoisearth ,
@whoisearth@lemmy.ca avatar

Canada is a mosaic. America is a meting pot.

Read John Rolston-Saul. He’s been very thorough explaining this. He puts a lot of it on the history of our country. Unlike America, Canada is a network of lakes and rivers. You can’t just ride a horse from A to B you will need to Portage. This meant the early settlers had no choice but to work with the indigenous peoples on the land as it was so foreign to the lands in Europe or America.

Adderbox76 ,

John Rolston-Saul

I have, actually. Mostly on the advice of that very same professor. (and also to impress a girl that was into that kind of thing)

I’d be lying if I said I understood most of Voltaire’s Bastards (I’m intelligent, but not THAT intelligent). But that was nearly 30 years ago now, so maybe I’d understand it more now that I’m older and more educated.

nifty ,
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For me, it’s not about offending but about invoking empathy in case the other person does it in a way to “other” someone. If someone’s question is innocent, then no harm done. You’re just having a chill conversation. If their question is not innocent, then maybe it might invoke empathy or also maybe annoy them

numberfour002 ,

In your original comment that I responded to, it sounded like you’re making the case that mixed and non-white people should start asking white people those questions as a matter of policy, and not just those times when a specific white person asked first. That’s why I was curious what you thought the effect would be.

That being said, even if you meant that people should only return the question if the white person asked first, that’s something which would just be normal and instinctual for most folks, I would think? Like if someone I’m getting to know asked me my favorite color, I’d probably follow up with the same question after I gave them my answer. So it seemed a bit weird to see a call to action to do something that I would have otherwise thought most people would already be doing (at least in my experience, which I certainly am open to the possibility that my experience is atypical of what racial minorities endure).

And although I am white, and thus I’m certainly coming from a place of privilege, I am a minority (lgbt) and have had my fair share of experience with inappropriate and/or weaponized questions, so I’m not coming from this from a place of complete naivety. I’m certainly aware that sometimes people will ask questions like “are you the boy or the girl in the relationship” from a place of authentic and unintentional ignorance, but that it’s quite often coming from people whose intent is to be derogatory.

whoisearth ,
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Ok as a non-racist white dude but I grew up in a small town and will admit to ignorance. I don’t get the problem here.

I don’t care where you’re from I will ask your background it’s more how you ask. I work with lots of people all over the world and I love learning about new cultures. If you’re black maybe you’re Nigerian or Kenyan. I don’t fucking know the difference I just hear a weird accent so I get curious.

Now the rub to me is how you ask and are you being sincere. Let’s stop demonizing people for innocently asking “so where are you from?”

For context I live in Toronto so very, very multicultural. I have friends from every background, but why hide wanting to expand your knowledge?

I wonder if part of the American problem is the fact that they continue to not come to terms with the fact that they’re racist AF?

I’m genuinely curious.

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

Tbh, I am okay with people who ask it if they’re just curious and not trying to bring it up in a weird way to other you. People can tell from the context

vxx ,

You made the distinction that you ask when they have an accent. That’s different to just assuming they must be from anywhere else because they’re black.

Imagine how that feels? Not the first or second time, but after the hundredth time…

It’s ignorant at least, racist at worst.

dogslayeggs ,

It’s because the question gets weaponized or used as a micro-aggression. Because of a person’s skin color they can’t possibly be a “real” American, right? Usually, the person can tell by your tone of voice or phrasing when you ask the question whether you are just curious to learn more about them or if you’re a racist dick. But either way, the question comes at them so often that they bristle when they hear it even when it is asked out of curiosity.

dogslayeggs ,

That will accomplish nothing. White people in the US love saying both where we are from and where we know/think our ancestors are from. It’s a common question for white people to ask other white people. White people in the US are so proud to say they are Irish or German or “Italian on my mother’s side!” It’s like we crave to have something interesting about ourselves since the US is a bit generic, while also being fiercely proud of being from the US. Heck, it’s also easy to find people who act proud of being 1/16th Native American… without realizing the reason you’re 1/16th is because your great great grandfather stole your great great grandmother from her parents.

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

That sounds great, I don’t mind people who are genuinely curious and just want to share.

samus12345 ,
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“Where are you from” should never mean ethnicity, but only where that person has lived. “What is your ancestry/ethnicity” should be specified if that’s what you’re asking about. No white person with an American accent would think anything of being asked where they’re from and will respond with where they’ve lived.

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

I know, I agree. I am speaking to the experience of people who get asked that question with a follow up of but where are you really from or some alternative. I mean, it’s totally innocuous and innocent question, but sometimes people use it in a weird way even if they don’t mean a bad thing by it. Because of our history of racism with each other (I mean humans), people are naturally sensitive about race. Things don’t exist in a vacuum

This persons story: hbr.org/…/whats-wrong-with-asking-where-are-you-f…

Four years ago, I moved to New York to start pursuing my journalism degree at a graduate program in the city. I spent my first week researching and reporting an audio story about the local farmer’s market. When I handed it in, my professor looked down at the script I had written, looked back up at me, and said, “Your English is good. Where are you from?”

While that was supposed to be a compliment, it didn’t feel like a pat on the back. Whether it was based on how I looked, sounded, or information the professor had gathered about me beforehand, their tone implied that, because I was an international student, my ability to write English well (or not) was tied to my geographical and cultural background. I was confused and hurt.

cynthorpe , in Families of 190 corpses left rotting in funeral home owed US$950M: judge

But… why?

some_guy ,

It’s silly and meaningless and there’s no real point. It’s symbolic but what it symbolizes is the cartoonishness of our society. When these people get locked up, that will mean something.

cynthorpe ,

What I mean is why did they have all those bodies? It seems like a lot of work. A lot more work than it is to just burn the bodies

girlfreddy OP ,
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Because they had to pay the crematorium to burn the bodies, and they were broke. So stash the bodies and give the families dirt instead.

havocpants , in Virginia man charged with threatening to kill Vice President Kamala Harris

Amazing how fast the US justice system can move when the defendant isn’t Donald fucking Trump.

ChillPenguin , in Kamala Harris has told allies that he she has chosen Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz

As a Minnesotan I’m a little sad that he’s going to be VP. But I understand. He’s been a great governor. Any person that the conservatives give a shitty nickname, you know is doing a great job. Who knew checks notes making sure school children are being fed is such a controversial issue.

aleph ,
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The upside for Minnesotans is that this could lead to Peggy Flanagan becoming the new governor, and she sounds reassuringly progressive.

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