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Project 2025 is an unmitigated polling disaster for Trump and Republicans

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Indeed, there is some public data, such as from YouGov earlier this summer, pointing to how information on Project 2025 had started to emerge from closed-off partisan bubbles. “Overall, 20 percent of U.S. adult citizens say they’ve heard a lot about Project 2025, while 39 percent have heard a little and 42 percent have heard nothing at all,” the YouGov report reads. “Most Independents with an opinion about Project 2025 dislike it (7 percent favorable, 38 percent unfavorable), while Republicans are more positive (26 percent favorable, 12 percent unfavorable).”

This all explains why Trump and his senior staff have — falsely — claimed that he has nothing to do with the conservative project, to the point that he got his supporters to boo Project 2025 during a campaign stop. Trump and his ilk realize how much attention the project is receiving from voters and how woefully unpopular many of the outlined policy prescriptions are to the average citizen. In recent weeks, as Rolling Stone previously reported, Trump had privately vented to political advisers that Project 2025, specifically the abortion-related components of it, risked tanking his electoral chances ahead of November.

Monument ,

It would also be an unmitigated disaster for the U.S.

ceenote ,

This is why they’re weird. They were bragging about Project 2025 a few months ago, because since everyone in their little far right bubbles wanted authoritarianism, they assumed normal people did.

Quill7513 , (edited )

Who are these 42% who are completely unaware? What media are they consuming? Are they using tools to block real information from reaching themselves? Like an ad blocker but for real information?

cowfodder ,

That was “earlier this summer”. There was a lot of chatter about it here and I assume on other more left learning corners of social media, but it really only started hitting the traditional news outlets in the last month or so.

Addv4 ,

Or possibly they might support one goal, but not know/care about the others. Fox tends to push single issues pretty hard, and the voters probably don’t know about the other ones that are less popular.

negativenull ,
@negativenull@lemmy.world avatar

It’s called “Facebook” I think

makeshiftreaper ,

I think you overestimate how much people care. There is a large swath of America who simply works, watches streaming/tiktok, hangs out with their friends who do the same thing and simply don’t pay attention to the world around them

TexasDrunk ,

It’s definitely this. There is a huge number of people who were sold “both sides” years ago and pay exactly 0 attention as long as they can still do the things you listed.

solsangraal ,

tfw your skeletons in the closet have closets full of skeletons

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

They really must have thought no one would read it.

All they had to do was say they wanted to cut veterans’ benefits and they already lost enough people to tell Project 2025 to fuck off.

There are over 16 million veterans in this country and who knows how many people in their families that rely on them and the benefits they receive. That sort of thing getting out is just poison.

Atelopus-zeteki ,
@Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run avatar

Which revelation is actually most helpful and beneficial. I mean ultimately a 2 or even 3+ party system, where each party is serious about doing the best for all of the US and the world would be ideal. And for Nov 2024, GOP needs to lose and lose hard.

Carrolade ,

It was fine until the SC immunity ruling. Nobody was reading the 900 page policy book, and it sounded like conspiracy theory crap to normal folk.

This was actually very clever, since there’s so much braying about conspiracy bullshit everywhere, most not-terminally-online people just react with eyerolls to anything that sounds too outrageous, which this did. Remember that the prevailing wisdom out there is that politicians are liars and both sides exaggerate to score political points, with us calling them fascists and them calling us communists, etc etc.

But then the SC came around and said Presidents get to commit crimes. This is a simple principle everyone can understand, so it can be communicated very easily, and that’s exactly what happened. And lo-and-behold, it was not an exaggeration, that is exactly what the SC said.

This made everyone take the proj 2025 thing much more seriously, turning what had been fodder for supporters and under-the-radar for everyone else into a pretty big across-the-board loss. John Roberts and his more “moderate” conservatives essentially torpedoed the Heritage Foundation. lol

The real question for future historians will be: Did he do it on purpose? Before that ruling, the nation was largely sleepwalking towards authoritarianism. Now it’s a fight, and that SC ruling was the tipping point, a bit of an “is this what you want?” sort of wakeup call. I don’t think so personally, but it’s a fun question. Either way, the two things combined into a collosal self-own for the authoritarian movement.

Olgratin_Magmatoe ,

The only good thing about fascism is that it destroys itself. If it destroys itself because of that SC ruling before it even really gets going, I won’t complain.

Hopefully it implodes soon.

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

They really must have thought no one would read it.

I think some of those wish list items are placed in there to cut out “by reaching across the aisle” during negotiations

But for a lot of the culture war bullshit, they genuinely seemed to have fallen for their own lie about there being a “silent majority” which wanted those things

They want Saudi Arabia in America because they desire the absolute control and power the royal family in SA has over its people. The culture war bullshit is just a means to an end

Edit, case in point advocate.com/…/mark-robinson-wife-abortion-north-…

But there are many other examples of hypocrisy

Carmakazi ,

I worry that they felt confident laying this out because they believe the fix is in, and that no popular resistance is going to stop it.

HobbitFoot ,

They also wanted a plan in place as Trump could win.

MyOpinion ,

It does nothing but speak out loud what these weirdos believe.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Hell, it is just the things they say and do all written down in one place.

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

This is pretty indicative of why they lean on the culture wars so hard. The bulk of their actual policy stances are not popular at all

Zron ,

They know they are unpopular.

Conservatives only account for a little more than 30% of the population, most of them are older too.

They know that young, average Americans dislike their policies, which is why they made this playbook. They need to get someone in power who can execute all of their fantasies before they lose all chances of getting elected in our current system, and they need to change the system so they can cling to power.

In order to energize their remaining voters, they need to make the alternative to them appear threatening, so they fabricate all of this nonsense like migrant crime and culture wars, to make the current America seem like a violent and dangerous place, when the actual numbers show that this is literally the safest time to be alive in American history.

This is the lashing out of an old, dying beast. But they are still incredibly dangerous, as Project 2025 shows. They have a plan to seize power and maintain it through political appointees and the usurpation of the checks and balances we have left. Once they control most of the government, it will be impossible to route them out without crippling the country.

They published the damn plan for anyone to see, and if even half of it goes through we won’t be the same country anymore.

cygnus , (edited )
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

Conservatives only account for a little more than 30% of the population, most of them are older too… They know that young, average Americans dislike their policies, which is why they made this playbook.

It’s comforting to believe this, but look at pics of the Charlottesville march, or even of Jan 6. They aren’t that old.

DogPeePoo ,

Republicans are gross and weird

lolcatnip ,

And creepy.

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