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UnpopularCrow , in Senate overwhelmingly passes package of bills aimed at protecting kids and teens online

GTFO with this title. The KOSA bill sucks through and through. It’s an online censorship bill that will hold websites accountable for content that is being hosted. Horrible bill if the house passes it in any form.

dynamic_generals , (edited ) in Police recruit who lost both legs in ‘barbaric hazing ritual’ sues Denver, paramedics and officers

I don’t have much thought experience in this realm so I’m happy to be shown I’m wrong. I put all the blame on the paramedics who foolishly, probably, gave deference to non-medical folks who wouldn’t know better.

But on the surface I see a benefit to that being a rite of passage in becoming a cop. If I’m a cadet expecting to, in a couple of months, have a non-zero chance to encounter someone trying to kill me at, say, a domestic violence call, I’d want to know what such an encounter would be like before it happens outside a controlled environment. No?

*I am distinguishing this from the bullshit fake fear that gets Black Americans murdered by cops seemingly every day.

Sparhawk87 ,

I’m an electrician and although there’s a risk I may get an electric shock at work my training did not include being electrocuted because that’s just stupid. This hazing is pretty much the same.

dynamic_generals , (edited )

Hi, thanks for that. Im not an electrician but I work for the IBEW! In the given example, electricians in my state have years of training and on the job experience*. To a non-electrician like me, my thinking is that they can control their environment- cut off power, and have an idea of what they’re going into at a given time. You don’t know what is behind the door at a domestic violence call.

ETA: *before earning a license. And FWIW, I’m not the one downvote; I was the second upvote. People be out here voting their opinions, not discussions.

mosiacmango , (edited )

Cops can control their environment a lot more than “you don’t know what’s behind a door.”

They can wear armor, can use their legal powers to compel people to act, can call for backup, can kick in doors, can call in helicopters, can get intel about the enviroment or suspects via the legal system, can have advanced weapons that most people can’t easily get I.e tanks/full auto guns, can restrain people, access to immediate and free healthcare and sickeningly have near full immunity up to an including murder, on and on.

All of these let them control an enviroment, much like an electrician can toggle off and tag a breaker. Both are in dangerous situations that have tools to mitigate that danger.

These tools must mainly work too, as police are not even in the top 20 most dangerous careers in the US. They rank under pizza delivery. The kid in a hat with a box of pizza that has none of these advanced tools to protect them.

scottywh ,

Everyone has a “non-zero chance” of encountering someone trying to kill them literally all the time.

This is simply gang initiation.

artichokecustard ,

Houston Tipping is an easy to remember name, what happened to this guy here, was not an isolated incident

flerp , (edited )

Train them for longer. Actually train them to fight. There are ways to bring someone down safely and if you know them you are less likely to hurt the person you are trying to subdue as well as yourself. Put them in a ring once they know how to fight and have them fight each other in a safe and sanctioned way. Once they graduate that level, have them spar against two partners to see what it’s like to be outnumbered. Train them to be honourable in combat ie. defensive and not out to hurt people as a priority.

And of course train them that civilians are not their enemies.

None of this requires barbaric hazing.

Oh and just as a matter of note: people don’t learn skills through chaos. You learn through repetition and once you have burned the action into your muscle memory through hours and hours and hours of practice, only then do you put your skills into chaos. Nobody gets into the ring in combat sports off the street. They practice until they can do what they need to do without thinking and only then will they be able to hopefully maintain the discipline to take the right actions under stress and chaos.

Stamau123 OP , in Missouri man is free from prison after a judge overturned his 1991 conviction, despite AG’s efforts

And yes this is the same AG that tried to pull a similar stunt with a woman a few weeks earlier

tyler ,

Why though?

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

Looks bad on their record.

meco03211 ,

How do they rationalize it as a loss for themselves? Unless they had a hand in the original case, you’d think they could just say, “yeah the last guy fucked up. Look how great I am though making sure this innocent person gets out of prison?”

BobGnarley ,

They do it to look “tough on crime”. A lot of people don’t seem to realize that the legal system in the us isn’t for the citizens benefit.

Its about stomping that boot down, hard and having people listen.

Its why this dude has done this, three separate times (did it last year too) and will never, EVER face any kind of repercussions other than a few news articles.

The proof is in the pudding. If they actually gave a fuck about justice people like this shit stain Andrew Bailey wouldn’t be able to pull shit like this.

Just the justice system working how they designed it.

davidgro ,

So do national news articles about how villainous they are.

Deceptichum ,
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How often don’t you hear them if this risk is preferable.

Deceptichum ,
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Political scientists and some attorneys have said Bailey was taking the tough stance to shore up votes in advance of a contested Republican primary. He faces a challenge from Will Scharf, an attorney for former President Donald Trump, in the Aug. 6 primary.

brbposting ,

Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey,

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FlyingSquid ,
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So the other guy is even worse? Great.

BobGnarley ,

Other dude does seem pretty terrible too but until he actually tries to keep innocent people locked up after rulings stating otherwise I’ll take anyone over Andrew Bailey’s corrupt stinking ass.

Hobbes_Dent , in Fox host demands video of JD Vance having sex with a couch
MermaidsGarden , in Fox host demands video of JD Vance having sex with a couch
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I’ve had it up to here with people saying JD Vance had sex with a couch. How many times do I have to say there’s no evidence JD Vance had sex with a couch before people stop saying JD Vance had sex with a couch? Liberals must be pretty desperate to make up that JD Vance had sex with a couch. The story that on March 17, 2011 JD Vance was banned from a Cleveland area IKEA after so thoroughly deflowering a KIVIK Sofa Chaise that it had to be removed as a biohazard due to the various fluids in and around it, causing the night manager to not only quit but need intensive therapy is beyond the pale. Who would believe this? There is sworn. court. testimony. that JD Vance has not made bare skin contact with a couch within the past 5 years. That’s a fact. Look it up. The idea that this is because JD Vance cannot contain his overwhelming sexual urges in the presence of soft furniture is reckless conjecture. Calling JD Vance a couchfucker is slander and you need to take it back.

The Left™ will do anything to avoid talking about the real issues in this campaign, like the fact that Kamala Harris laughs sometimes.

iamjackflack ,

It’s funny you say that. However it’s a Fox News person that’s asking for this.

nilloc ,

They’re too stupid to know that proving something like fucking a couch didn’t happen is impossible. They think that lack of video evidence will prove it, but they’re just jagwagons.

cogman ,

Harris also has the skull shape of a Marxist! And the fact that she’s a girl will make all the other manly nations call us Sissies!

MediaBiasFactChecker Bot , in Income gap between Black and white US residents shrank between Gen Xers and millennials, study says

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This is the bot that says centrism is unbiased

BlackLaZoR , in Amazon can now be held responsible for dangerous products sold on its platform, government
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The entire thing sounds like shooting the messenger. Why should Amazon be liable for stuff sold by third parties?

CeeBee_Eh ,

Why should Amazon be liable for stuff sold by third parties?

Even when proven dangerous products are reported to Amazon they continue to sell it.

Louis Rossman talks about it a lot.

youtu.be/eS698R-bxuc

BlackLaZoR ,
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Ok, that's a good point.

CheeseNoodle ,

In addition Amazon have that whole system where you buy a product and you just get a random version of that product they have in stock rather than one from the precise seller you ordered from. That takes choice away from the consumer to avoid certain brands which should make Amazon responsible for the outcome if they provide an inferior version of the product ordered.

paraphrand , (edited )

Also, Amazon is this new form of dominance of the market, and they shouldn’t be able to engineer a system where fault is ambiguous and the buck is passed indefinitely in circles.

masterofn001 ,

Amazon was also made aware a few years ago of a kit…

A suicide kit.

That kids were buying.

To kill themselves.

Amazon did nothing.

and suffered nothing.

But they fucking knew. They had power and control to stop it.

Bezos deserves a taste of his own service.

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frickineh , in Fox host demands video of JD Vance having sex with a couch

Finally, a use case for AI that I can really get behind!

Kidding, please god no one deepfake that weirdo going to town on a totally innocent sofa. Fuckin nightmare fuel.

ThePantser ,
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Rule 34, it’s already a thing.

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

Or rule 35

Zorsith ,
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No no, they should absolutely do it and show it (heavily censored and muted) live. With PoV cam (both Vance and the couches PoV)

MediaBiasFactChecker Bot , in Rights Groups Warn Senate-Passed Online Safety Bill 'Makes Kids Less Safe'.

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Brkdncr , in Fox host demands video of JD Vance having sex with a couch

Finally we’ve found a use for AI.

Intrama , in Missouri man is free from prison after a judge overturned his 1991 conviction, despite AG’s efforts
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So what’s the deal? The AG must have had a direct line to god almighty. Yeah. It must be that. Holy hell… if this lunatic isn’t immediately fired from the post then what in the actual @#£& is this system.

snausagesinablanket ,
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So what’s the deal?

Prisons for profit and kickbacks is “The Deal”

MediaBiasFactChecker Bot , in White House pushes Biden's Supreme Court proposal despite Republican objections.

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