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superminerJG , in $1 million starter home? It's the norm in 237 cities, according to Zillow

The answer: fund affordable housing and do it properly.

Taniwha420 , in Canadian women's soccer docked, coaches suspended over drone spying scandal

They used a drone to spy on the New Zealand women’s team. That violated fair play. The article mentions the coach (?) saying that drone use was not limited to the women’s team or soccer. I wonder what else will come out?

EDIT: I got a couple things wrong. Here’s the actual quote: The head of Canada soccer has acknowledged the drone use was not limited to the women’s team or to Paris.

Etterra , in Trump warns Netanyahu of ‘third world war’ if he loses US election

And who’s gonna sling nukes on that day, Trump? Because you ain’t got the codes and Vlad sure ain’t sticking his neck out for you.

feedum_sneedson , in $1 million starter home? It's the norm in 237 cities, according to Zillow

Shall I just kill myself, then? How can I ever earn enough to live?

DashboTreeFrog , in Trump vows to keep doing outdoor campaign rallies after shooting

Comments section becoming a master class in insinuating assassination jokes without saying it

Etterra , in As Western US fires get ever bigger, experts look for answers.

Hmmm, could it be that climate change thing was keep hearing about? Nah that can’t be it, anyway let’s authorize another almond plantation.

worldwidewave ,

It ignited Wednesday when authorities said a man pushed a burning car into a gully in Chico and then calmly blended in with others fleeing the scene

It’s evil human deeds compounding atop short-sighted human actions

IzzyScissor , in Trump vows to keep doing outdoor campaign rallies after shooting

He does outdoor rallies because they’re cheaper, and he’s broke.

If he wasn’t being bankrolled by Elon, he’d probably have to file for bankruptcy for the checks notes SEVENTH time.

hypeerror ,

Exactly, he can’t afford indoor venues and he’ll only get a thousand or so once it’s at a location that charges parking. Gotta be cheap to produce and free to attend or it’ll be empty.

Ensign_Crab , in Israel sends Gaza hostage and ceasefire proposal to U.S.

Israeli negotiators were not hopeful on Friday that the meeting in Rome would lead to a breakthrough and doubted that Biden’s pressure on Netanyahu had convinced the prime minister to soften some of his new tough demands in the updated Israeli proposal.

What pressure?

tyrant , in ‘This Is the Worst Police-Shooting Video Ever’ - The officer who killed Sonya Massey didn’t see what I see.

To add to this… a lot of police confirmation videos I see someone MAYBE acting strange or MAYBE doing something that a cop could find threatening. This one I saw absolutely no danger or strange behavior. The lady was just talking to them like any of us would talk to each other. It’s disgusting.

MTK ,

How dare you ignore her deadly weapon, the pot of water that she was pouring down the drain.

They could have gotten wet, potentially, if she would have shown any sign of intention to throw it at them. But if they didn’t shot her they could have maybe gotten wet, if they also didn’t move.

This is the kind of chaos, fear, traumas and danger or finest have to deal with every day! So it is very understandable if they decide to announce their intentions (“I can shoot you in your fucking face”) and then do it once she begs for forgiveness (“please! I’m sorry! I’m sorry!”)

Who else would protect us?!

Klear ,

Afraid of getting wet? Those policemen were pussies. That’s no excuse for what they did. Now if there were acorns involved…

Balex ,

Come on… It was a pot of boiling hot water. If she did throw it at the cops that could do a lot of damage. I’m not saying it looked like she was going to throw it and I don’t think the shooting was justified, but don’t pretend like the cops would’ve just “gotten wet”. It doesn’t look good when you lie.

AA5B ,

Yep, and I bet there were peaches on the counter. If she took the stones out of all the peaches and ground them up to a fine powder and chemically concentrated the cyanide, she could have offered a nice innocent tea that would have been deadly. Good thing he defended against such threats

Balex ,

Wtf are you talking about? Are you denying that a pot of boiling water would be easy to throw at someone and severely mess them up?

AA5B ,

Ye, every time I’m in a diner, if I see a waitress even glance toward that coffee pot or the tea kettle, I’m pulling my gold plated Desert Eagles and mag-dumping right there. I have to do it. It’s self-defense. It would be their fault

Especially if it’s to a tiny elderly wonan in her nightshirt trembling in distress, who asked for help, trying to obey my every command, and I only have one guy on backup and the long gun is not in place.

Especially if I’ve commanded her to take it off the stove: they’re sneaky like that

Balex ,

Are you saying a knife couldn’t be threatening just because it’s used in a diner? What a stupid comment. Again, I’m not justifying the shooting, I think the cop fucked up to let it even get to that point, but don’t pretend like it was just a “pot of water”. You can still criticize the officer without lying about the facts.

Chapelgentry ,

I think you’re overstating the threat here. The above commenter, though being facetious, is making a good point. The cop told her to take her pasta off the stove and even joked with her about avoiding the steam. Then he shot her. She was standing at a sink behind a raised-bar style countertop with a pot of water. Assuming she’s going to be able to chuck it over the counter at the cop is a bit of a stretch, particularly given her demeanor throughout the encounter. Nevermind the fact that she’s standing there with two armed men that could easily kill her (and one did), it’s bonkers to assume she would have both the motive and capability to do so.

It’s one thing if she behaved erratically to that point, but she didn’t. Additionally, if the cop was really concerned about the pot he could have said, “no, stay on the couch.” It’s just an odd hill to die on stating the cop was concerned about the pot.

Balex ,

I think y’all need to rewatch the video then. Keep in mind that I agree that the cop fucked up big time and should’ve handled the situation differently, but it does more harm to not get the facts right. He didn’t shoot her when he was standing away and she was at the sink. She ducked behind the counter, he got closer so he could see her and make sure she’s not doing anything sketchy, and then he shot her as she was starting to stand back up with the pot in her hands still. Also I don’t like the defense that it’s bonkers to assume she couldn’t do harm to one or both of them since there are two of them. There are plenty of videos of people doing crazy shit even when outnumbered. That’s the scary thing about these situations is that things can become very bad very quickly.

I do agree with your last point though. She could still be alive if the whole situation leading up to the shooting was handled differently. But I think it’s silly to deny that there was potential for harm and that the cop had any right to be worried about the pot of hot water.

Chapelgentry ,

I think the bit of context here that is lacking is why she felt the need to drop to the floor in the first place. Was she hurt? Dizzy? Pain medication kick in? Did he point his gun at her and she reflexively dropped? The pot didn’t go with her; it was still on the sink. From the cops’ vantage point he would’ve likely seen that.

Beyond that, she’s the victim. Granted, police should use due diligence when responding to calls, but taking the stance that anyone is an adversary leads to guns being drawn and people being beaten waaay too early in the interaction and with little provocation. Suspicion of all leads to paranoid responses, and we see the fruits of that in this and other encounters.

I’f be curious to know which you see as being more important here - the cops’ life or the civilians? Just trying to understand the frame of reference.

Balex ,

Nope, she still had the pot in her hands up until the point he shoots her. You can even see steam coming off the ground after she gets shot.

I don’t think either of their lives are more or less important than the others, but I do think the officer has the full responsibility for how that situation plays out.

I just hate the dishonesty about the situation, it makes your criticism look weaker. You can 100% criticize the cop without lying about the facts.

Chapelgentry ,

To clarify, what were the previous posters being dishonest about? The threat of the boiling water? If it’s that, I would conjecture that the cop mishandling the situation was what made the threat even a little credible.

If not that, can you give me more detail on what the others were being dishonest about?

MTK ,

Okay, this is either a troll or a person detached from reality.

Not worth my time.

And please comment how “I just walk away because I can’t counter” I’m sure that would convince future readers

MTK ,

From that distance? With all the options in the world for cover and escape?

Yeah, you might be right, but my “lie” here changes absolutely nothing in the actual levels of danger that these cops were in, since she did not ahow any sign of aggression and wasn’t holding a deadly weapon like a gun.

Balex ,

What do you mean from that distance? By the time he shot her they were <5 feet apart.

You’re right, it doesn’t change the fact that the cop completely failed at controlling the situation and she is now dead because of that, but it muddy’s the water and creates conversations that don’t need to be had (like this).

I don’t know why you seem to think that getting boiling water thrown at you would be like taking a hot shower, but that could seriously mess someone up for life.

MTK ,

He didn’t “fail to control the situation” he straight up stated that he will murder her and then did.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

By the time he shot her they were <5 feet apart.

He kept approaching her.

All he had to do was back away. Or even maintain his distance.

nickwitha_k , in Moms and Kids Protest Fossil Fuel Expansion at Citigroup CEO's Home.

More of this. Also, good would be dismantling the corporate veil. Make execs and boards feel the consequences of their actions.

Etterra , in Russian warships make another visit to Cuban waters in show of growing ties

Hey Russia, remember how well that worked out for you last time?

randon31415 , in Israel sends Gaza hostage and ceasefire proposal to U.S.

Hamas: We agree to the proposal

Israel: What proposal?

PepperoniNipple , in FBI says Trump was indeed struck by bullet during assassination attempt

I love how nobody gives a fuck about the assassination attempt anymore thanks to JD Vance absorbing all the momentum hahaha

Sam_Bass , in Usha Vance told friends Trump appalled her. Now she’s working to elect him.

Her old man may have threatened to beat her

MerchantsOfMisery ,

Given the fact that he’s a staunch believer that women should stay in violent marriages instead of divorcing, you may be right.

tiredofsametab ,

Her father's involved in this now, too?

Sam_Bass ,

No. “Old man” is an old colloquialism for spouse

tiredofsametab ,

Huh. When did that happen? Etymonline isn't helpful here. Maybe it's regional or something? Thanks!

Sam_Bass , (edited )

The term has been around since the 40s and 50s. As too regional no it was/is nationwide. More likely cultural. The youth of those days were more accuztomex to it than their parents

WindyRebel ,

Must be regional or something else because I’ve never heard “old man” used in any other context than as a father. I’ve lived in Florida and the west coast and traveled all over the US for context.

“The ‘ol’ ball and chain” is used for spouse, unfortunately it’s usually used for women.

Sam_Bass ,

Guess you are just too young to have heard it since it began so long ago. Even been on television enough for most people to have heard it

WindyRebel ,

I’m in my 40s, so it must be quite an old thing.

Sam_Bass ,

At that age you should have heard it at least once in your life. Dunno maybe the 20 year difference between us is enough to prevent that kind of exposure

tamal3 , (edited )

My old man
He’s a singer in the park
He’s a walker in the rain
He’s a dancer in the dark
We don’t need no piece of paper
From the city hall
Keeping us tied and true
No, my old man
Keeping away my blues

BilboBargains , in Experienced climber falls 800 feet to his death on ridge near Telluride, sheriff’s office says

How come we dedicate so many resources to rescuing one thrill seeker in the mountains but virtually no resources to people having other types of medical emergencies? Not saying we shouldn’t do that, all life is precious, but some is more precious than others it seems.

catloaf ,

Like what medical emergencies? You don’t need to search for and extract someone who fell at home. You know where they are and it’s easy to get them to a hospital.

Dkarma ,

Scale of resources. If it takes 100k to save one it takes 1mil to save 10

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