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Kids? A Growing Number of Americans Say, ‘No, Thanks.’

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Like Ms. McKay, a growing number of U.S. adults say they are unlikely to raise children, according to a study released on Thursday by the Pew Research Center. When the survey was conducted in 2023, 47 percent of those younger than 50 without children said they were unlikely ever to have children, an increase of 10 percentage points since 2018.

When asked why kids were not in their future, 57 percent said they simply didn’t want to have them. Women were more likely to respond this way than men (64 percent vs. 50 percent). Further reasons included the desire to focus on other things, like their career or interests; concerns about the state of the world; worries about the costs involved in raising a child; concerns about the environment, including climate change; and not having found the right partner.

midnight_puker ,
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I taught my 3 year old to say 'No, thanks", and it’s so cute. He’s so polite and I love him so much 🥹

NineMileTower ,

I have two kids. 7 and 3. Parenting is the hardest thing you will ever do.

Organichedgehog ,

I’m not unaccomplished, by any means (nice job, married to hs sweetheart, big house, nice new cars, etc), but I genuinely felt like I wasted my life before having a kid. We had our first at 36 and we’re about to start trying for a 2nd at 38.

Which is to say, while it’s hard, it’s one of the only things worth doing in life. IMO, obviously.

(For the record, in our 20s we were the “no thanks” crowd, I changed in my 30s and my wife took an extra 6 years to come around)

givesomefucks ,

Not having kids is the only way some of them are gonna be able to afford to live, and less people 30 years from now means they might even be able to afford a place to live if they can retire.

There’s always fearmongering when populations god down, but historically it’s the only time periods normal people can claw back some wealth from the 0.1%

Which is why the wealthy always freak the fuck out. They do t care about people, they care about labor supply, and the more people the cheaper labor.

tal ,
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Having fewer children is something that is positively-correlated with a society being wealthy, rather than the other way around.

ourworldindata.org/…/children-per-woman-fertility…

The phenomenon of societies having their birth rate fall off as they become wealthier is called the demographic transition.

And further, that correlation exists across a number of axes:

  • Time (that is, as societies have become wealthier, the number of children they have has dropped).

  • Space (poorer societies today tend to have more children than wealthier societies do).

  • Within a society. Poorer people in society tend to have more children. Here’s the US, and more-generally:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_and_fertility

    Income and fertility is the association between monetary gain on one hand, and the tendency to produce offspring on the other. There is generally an inverse correlation between income and the total fertility rate within and between nations.[3][4] The higher the degree of education and GDP per capita of a human population, subpopulation or social stratum, the fewer children are born in any developed country.

givesomefucks , (edited )

Having fewer children is something that is positively-correlated with a society being wealthy, rather than the other way around.

Correlation is not causation, there’s no “other way around”…

But what you’re talking about is the drop in fertility due to industrialization and other periods where children worked less and cost more.

That’s different than what I’m talking about; when a labor supply shrinks it means workers get paid more.

That’s just basic supply and demand.

We’re both right, just talking about different things.

FireRetardant ,

There is the real issue of how a society will support its aged population with significantly less young people working than in the past. It requires changes to regulations and taxation and many nations arent ready to accept that and instead somehow expect the smaller number of young people to just pick up the slack and accept they won’t get to retire when they age.

givesomefucks ,

Or we could just tax the wealthy…

FireRetardant ,

Yes, i mentioned it requires changes to taxation. A lot of the wealthy are the older so they won’t vote in a way that helps young people, they vote in a way to preserve their wealth, even if it means poor social services for people the same age as them but “poor”.

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