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paddirn , in The Associated Press: A teen was falling asleep during a courtroom field trip. She ended up in cuffs and jail clothes

How is it that a judge can just decide somebody can be arrested for no other reason than “they didn’t like their attitude”? If a crime hasn’t been committed and a person hasn’t been arrested, how does the judge have any say over what a private citizen is doing? I would expect them to have to have slightly more leeway over their courtroom and they can have people escorted out or whatever, but just being able to detain people for no reason seems like an abuse of power? Across the board it seems like the Judicial branch has too much power.

FlyingSquid ,
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but just being able to detain people for no reason seems like an abuse of power?

Welcome to America, friend. First time?

Cadeillac ,
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We should have written something when the country was formed. Maybe some stuff about unlawful detention or false imprisonment. A fair and speedy trial would be cool. Maybe we prevent cruel and unusual punishment while we are at it

FlyingSquid ,
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That was the old days when a crime was a crime, even if it was an “official presidential act.”

Cadeillac ,
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Nuts, I really thought I was on to something

protist , (edited )

Do be clear, it doesn’t sound like she was actually arrested or actually detained at any point. The judge said he intended having her put on jail clothes and handcuffs to frighten her into taking court seriously, like a “life lesson” thing. It sounds like she mouthed off at him after he asked her to pay attention. His goal was to “scare her straight,” but he definitely should not have tried to reach her this way

Edit: I guess I’m being downvoted by people who think this judge did the right thing? Geez

MrPoopbutt ,

The judge is definitely am example of “if you have a hammer, then everything looks like a nail”.

zaph ,

A teenager on a field trip to see a Detroit court ended up in jail clothes and handcuffs because a judge said he didn’t like her attitude.

First sentence in the article. This is called being detained.

Cadeillac ,
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Unlawful police detention is when law enforcement, without legal justification, restricts your freedom to leave.

You are being downvoted because you are wrong. Don’t try to spin it as if anyone thinks this was the right thing to do. It sounds EXACTLY like she was detained

systemglitch ,

If what you say is true, I’m on the judges side on this one. shrug In the end nothing outrageous happened.

Cadeillac ,
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The entire situation is outrageous. A child should not be handcuffed and forced to put on other clothes for falling asleep. Absolutely absurd

catloaf ,

Judges have a lot of leeway to hold people in contempt of court. But because the US is so big and has so many judges, you’re bound to get a few shitty ones.

systemglitch , in When Florida judges sentence children tried as adults, they give them higher sentences on average for felony crimes than adult offenders

Well duh. Imagine for a second what a kid has to do to end up in that situation. These are usually seriously fucked up humans.

DrunkDragon ,

You don’t understand. Lemmy, like all social media, runs on outrage. How are we supposed to hate the prison industry if what’s going on has a perfectly reasonable explanation? I need to feel hate with my morning coffee, because I need to feel something.

rand_alpha19 , in The big question touching a nerve this election: "Can my husband find out who I am voting for?"

Honestly, I love that my wife is a childless cat lady. It makes everything cheaper and easier. My life is better because I don't have kids, and I'm happy that we made that choice together as rational adults and that we were able to agree that this is the best path for us.

Anyone who chooses to have kids based on their values and circumstances is totally cool, whatever, as long as the kids aren't being abused or neglected, of course. That's your option and I respect it - someone has to have 'em.

But if you don't think people are capable of making the choice not to have kids and that it makes them sociopaths to not have kids, I'm pretty sure you're just an authoritarian who either hates women or has a breeding fetish. Maybe both.

Icalasari ,

Considering the sheer strain on the body pregnancy and birth have, I feel like being a mysoginist would automatically qualify one for a breeding fetish

WoahWoah ,

To be fair, not having children is hard on a woman’s body as well. Increased risks for uterine, ovarian, and breast cancers to name only a few.

Patriarchal medical providers often don’t inform childless women of this and don’t encourage additional and more regular cancer screenings.

They just ignore women’s concerns, sometimes until it’s too late–an all too familiar story for women and the history of medicine.

Wrench ,

Cheaper? My childless catlady wife spends a fortune on our elder cats with health problems.

I have no problem with it, that’s what I knew I was marrying. But they certainly aren’t cheap. The vets know us like we’re regulars.

Sc00ter ,

Still cheaper than if you had to pay for human health problems (in the USA at least)

AngryCommieKender ,

You’d think that. I know someone that spent $50,000 back in the '90s trying to save her collie that had cancer.

lolcatnip ,

Wait till you hear what human cancer treatment costs.

nulluser ,

Have you looked at the cost of day care? And diapers? Or just having a place to live with the extra necessary bedrooms? Pre pandemic I read some article that (as I vaguely remember) estimated it costs at least $100k to raise a child to 18 in the US. I imagine it’s closer to $150k or more by now. Probably way more.

Sir_Kevin ,
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I believe it’s closer to 500K. That’s assuming no paid education.

Dkarma ,

You can always put down your cats. Gotta pay if that kid has cancer tho.

anindefinitearticle ,

Gotta pay if that kid has cancer tho.

Not if you choose the power of prayer as treatment.

The pious man’s euthanasia.

Diplomjodler3 , in The Associated Press: A teen was falling asleep during a courtroom field trip. She ended up in cuffs and jail clothes

What a disgusting power tripping asshole.

Kyrgizion ,

I essentially feel that way about every judge. The power to choose other people’s fates goes to anyone’s head, no exceptions.

Huckledebuck OP ,

What would happen if the lower level judges had very limited terms (1 year?) with term limits?

Corkyskog ,

You would have a bunch of incompetent judges. I say create a test and test them vigorously every year. If they fail, they come off the bench.

Huckledebuck OP ,

Oh, i like this idea.

If we had enough incentive to be a judge for a year, i think that there would be a lot of competent volunteers. I try to be an optimist, but it hardly works out.

Frozengyro ,

Lots of cases last much longer than a year.

Huckledebuck OP ,

Good point

Marafon , in BlackRock, Vanguard big purchasers of Trump Media shares in Q2, filings show

Gotta hedge your bets!

Lemminary , in Hackers may have stolen the Social Security numbers of all Americans. Here's what to know.

Why have this insecure system if security is right in the name! /j

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n2burns , in Hackers may have stolen the Social Security numbers of all Americans. Here's what to know.

that provides background checks for employers, investigators and other businesses that want to check people’s backgrounds.

Great editing once again brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department!

mozz , in Vance agrees that raising grandchildren is ‘whole purpose of postmenopausal female’
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Does that mean if a white guy gets divorced and loses custody of his kids, he becomes a purposeless entity?

“That’s DIFFERENT”

PrincessLeiasCat ,

Dude did you miss the part of your own sentence that said “white guy”?

This means he has a penis. And it is white. I don’t understand the question.

tyler ,

It really implies that grandfathers are useless lol. Only grandmothers have purpose.

snek ,
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That’s why women live 10 years longer on average. God made it saw. Man dies, woman raises grandkids then dies. /s

TimLovesTech ,
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Well they plan to remove a woman’s ability to get a divorce, so if the white guy wants to keep his kids he just doesn’t divorce his wife. Problem solved! /s

tenchiken , in Iowa man allegedly shoots his father in face after complaint about smelly feet

Next up: DeSantis deputizes the attackers feet, claims the smell has religious rights to defend itself, bans any books referring to “stink”, and blames the lack of a pregnant woman in a nearby kitchen barefoot for the failure of the ammunition to succeed in the way American ammunition should.

And somehow the smell itself is woke because of tampons or something.

modifier , in Iowa man allegedly shoots his father in face after complaint about smelly feet

Just as the founders envisioned.

originalucifer , in Ohio police officer Connor Grubb charged with murder in shooting of pregnant Ta'Kiya Young
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cop puts himself in front of a vehicle so he can shoot the driver... its like southpark when they have to shout 'theyre coming right at us' before wildly shooting whatever it is they want dead.

for stolen liquor. this cop thought it was ok to shoot a human being over stolen liquor.

Cadeillac ,
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Even in South Park, they took that away from them. They had to do it to control the populations in a later episode. Of course, that is the true reason they are doing it in real life, just a different type of controlling the population

Pronell , in Medicare negotiated drug prices for the first time. Here’s what it got

That 20 year ban on negotiating drug prices passed with only Republican votes in the dead of night, holding the vote open until they convinced enough Republicans to change their vote.

And every single negative thing in that bill gets blamed on Obamacare.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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They must always obey their corporate masters.

Bishma , (edited ) in Hackers may have stolen the Social Security numbers of all Americans. Here's what to know.
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Jokes on them! They probably already had mine from the Move-It hack.

Checkmate hackers.

snekerpimp , in Iowa man allegedly shoots his father in face after complaint about smelly feet

The duel needs to be brought back for civil arguments. Some nerf filled thunderdome where both parties can beat the snot out of each other with minor to little consequences. Either that or anger management needs to be taught in elementary schools.

Cadeillac ,
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That last sentence. Definitely that

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